Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-08-26 Thread Peter Geoghegan
On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 11:58 AM, Bruce Momjian wrote: > I am sorry it so long for me to address this. Peter brought it up in > June, but I just wasn't around to address it cleanly before now. I am > glad he reminded me. Well, you got around to it eventually. Thanks. -- Peter Geoghegan --

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-08-26 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 02:47:14PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 10:10:01AM -0700, Peter Geoghegan wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 7:33 AM, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > I have applied the attached patch to document this in the data type docs. > > > > Thanks, but shouldn't

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-08-26 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 10:10:01AM -0700, Peter Geoghegan wrote: > On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 7:33 AM, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > I have applied the attached patch to document this in the data type docs. > > Thanks, but shouldn't varchar/text also be mentioned in the release > notes, rather than "char

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-08-26 Thread Peter Geoghegan
On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 7:33 AM, Bruce Momjian wrote: > I have applied the attached patch to document this in the data type docs. Thanks, but shouldn't varchar/text also be mentioned in the release notes, rather than "character fields"? -- Peter Geoghegan -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing li

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-08-26 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 04:07:36PM -0700, Peter Geoghegan wrote: > On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 3:53 PM, Peter Geoghegan wrote: > > I think we should really address this. Attached patch adds a new > > release note item for it. It also adds to the documentation that > > explains why users should prefer

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-08-20 Thread Tom Lane
Arthur Silva writes: > Are we landing pg_tgrm 1.2 in pg 9.5? No, we aren't. And please don't quote 70 lines of unrelated stuff before making your point. regards, tom lane -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your sub

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-08-20 Thread Peter Geoghegan
On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 3:53 PM, Peter Geoghegan wrote: > I think we should really address this. Attached patch adds a new > release note item for it. It also adds to the documentation that > explains why users should prefer varchar(n)/text to character(n); the > lack of abbreviated key support no

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-08-20 Thread Arthur Silva
On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 11:04 PM, Bruce Momjian wrote: > On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 01:24:33AM +1200, David Rowley wrote: > > > > On 7 August 2015 at 14:24, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 09:00:44PM +0200, Andres Freund wrote: > > > * 2014-12-08 [519b075] Simon ..: Use

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-08-08 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 01:24:33AM +1200, David Rowley wrote: > > On 7 August 2015 at 14:24, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 09:00:44PM +0200, Andres Freund wrote: > > * 2014-12-08 [519b075] Simon ..: Use GetSystemTimeAsFileTime directly in > win32 > >   2014-12-

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-08-08 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 02:49:21PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > What I _am_ saying is that you should use the same criteria I am using, > > > and just disagree on the place for the line, rather than use a different > > > criteria, which will lead to perpetual complaints. We can change the > >

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-08-08 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 09:02:09PM +0200, Andres Freund wrote: > On 2015-08-07 14:43:11 -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > Well, we could just throw a "Postgres 9.5 is faster" release note item > > in there and call it a day. ;-) > > Based on my experience one of the prime reason people move to a ne

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-08-08 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 09:02:09PM +0200, Andres Freund wrote: > With regard to the point about the number of buffer mappings: This has > forced peoples sites down. People have found this out themselves and > patched postgres. That's an entirely different league. I was not aware of the magnitude o

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-08-08 Thread David Rowley
On 7 August 2015 at 14:24, Bruce Momjian wrote: > On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 09:00:44PM +0200, Andres Freund wrote: > > * 2014-12-08 [519b075] Simon ..: Use GetSystemTimeAsFileTime directly in > win32 > > 2014-12-08 [8001fe6] Simon ..: Windows: use > GetSystemTimePreciseAsFileTime if .. > > Time

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-08-08 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 10:35:50PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 06:42:38PM -0700, Peter Geoghegan wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 6:08 PM, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > I though tabout this, and it is really an issue for FDW authors, not for > > > end users, so I put this t

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-08-07 Thread Gavin Flower
On 08/08/15 06:43, Bruce Momjian wrote: On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 11:53:30AM -0400, Robert Haas wrote: [...] Well, we could just throw a "Postgres 9.5 is faster" release note item in there and call it a day. ;-) Nah! Just say it is Much Shinier, I'll buy it. Unfortunately, we have to have much

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-08-07 Thread Peter Geoghegan
On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 12:02 PM, Andres Freund wrote: > Based on my experience one of the prime reason people move to a new > version of postgres is performance. And it's not like 'faster!!!' is > really helpful for them to evaluate the benefits appropriately. A > scalability improvement isn't goi

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-08-07 Thread Andres Freund
On 2015-08-07 14:43:11 -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > Well, we could just throw a "Postgres 9.5 is faster" release note item > in there and call it a day. ;-) Based on my experience one of the prime reason people move to a new version of postgres is performance. And it's not like 'faster!!!' is re

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-08-07 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 11:53:30AM -0400, Robert Haas wrote: > On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 10:24 PM, Bruce Momjian wrote: > >> * 2014-10-02 [3acc10c9] Robert..: Increase the number of buffer mapping > >> partition.. > >> should we mention this? This has been patched by a number of > >> downstream

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-08-07 Thread Andres Freund
On 2015-08-07 11:53:30 -0400, Robert Haas wrote: > On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 10:24 PM, Bruce Momjian wrote: > >> * 2014-10-02 [3acc10c9] Robert..: Increase the number of buffer mapping > >> partition.. > >> should we mention this? This has been patched by a number of > >> downstream vendors and

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-08-07 Thread Robert Haas
On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 10:24 PM, Bruce Momjian wrote: >> * 2014-10-02 [3acc10c9] Robert..: Increase the number of buffer mapping >> partition.. >> should we mention this? This has been patched by a number of >> downstream vendors and users, so it's probably worth calling out? > > Uh, I am not

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-08-06 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 06:42:38PM -0700, Peter Geoghegan wrote: > On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 6:08 PM, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > I though tabout this, and it is really an issue for FDW authors, not for > > end users, so I put this text in the Source Code changes section: > > I carefully considered whe

Re: Fwd: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-08-06 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 11:19:46AM -0700, Jeff Janes wrote: > On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 9:15 PM, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > I have committed the first draft of the 9.5 release notes.  You can view > the output here: > >         http://momjian.us/pgsql_docs/release-9-5.html > > and i

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-08-06 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 10:21:29PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: > Bruce Momjian writes: > > On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 12:12:16AM +0200, Andres Freund wrote: > >> Anyway, how about: > >> format:%cd [%h] %<(8,trunc)%cN: %<(49,trunc)%s > >> (which you can configure as pretty.pgmajor or so in .gitconfig btw.)

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-08-06 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 09:00:44PM +0200, Andres Freund wrote: > I've gone through the release notes and added comments referencing > commits as discussed earlier. Additionally I've improved and added a > bunch of items. > > Further stuff that came up while looking: > * 2014-09-25 [b0d81ad] Heikki

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-08-06 Thread Tom Lane
Bruce Momjian writes: > On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 12:12:16AM +0200, Andres Freund wrote: >> Anyway, how about: >> format:%cd [%h] %<(8,trunc)%cN: %<(49,trunc)%s >> (which you can configure as pretty.pgmajor or so in .gitconfig btw.) > Should we add this to src/tools/git_changelog? It currently use

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-08-06 Thread Peter Geoghegan
On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 6:08 PM, Bruce Momjian wrote: > I though tabout this, and it is really an issue for FDW authors, not for > end users, so I put this text in the Source Code changes section: I carefully considered where to put it, and chose the compatibility section based on the precedent of

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-08-06 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 12:12:16AM +0200, Andres Freund wrote: > On 2015-06-29 17:58:54 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: > > Yeah we are. The only places you'll find where we aren't formatting to 77 > > or 78 columns or so are where it would require breaking SGML tags in weird > > places. > > Which isn't e

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-08-06 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 05:05:59PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: > Andres Freund writes: > > I'm working on integrating the suggestions I made last week to the > > release notes. Would anybody mind if I start to add commit ids in > > comments, similar to what Tom has done for minor releases, to news > >

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-08-06 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 03:39:19PM -0700, Peter Geoghegan wrote: > On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 9:15 PM, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > I am ready to make suggested adjustments > > I attach a compatibility note that is clearly needed; adding this is > an open item of mine for 9.5. This concerns foreign data

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-08-06 Thread Peter Geoghegan
On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 3:39 PM, Bruce Momjian wrote: > I am using the same criteria I have always used. If you would like it > changed, we need to discuss it at a macro level, not for individual > cases where we feel someone didn't get enough _credit_. I don't know how you can say that no *user*

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-08-06 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 03:32:43PM -0700, Peter Geoghegan wrote: > On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 3:06 PM, Bruce Momjian wrote: > >> Below performance improvement in the "General Performance" category is > >> missing: > >> > >> Reduce btree scan overhead for < and > strategies > >> > >> For <, <=

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-08-06 Thread Peter Geoghegan
On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 3:06 PM, Bruce Momjian wrote: >> Below performance improvement in the "General Performance" category is >> missing: >> >> Reduce btree scan overhead for < and > strategies >> >> For <, <=, > and >= strategies, mark the first scan key >> as already matched if sca

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-08-06 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 09:14:01PM +, Rajeev rastogi wrote: > On 11 June 2015 09:45, Bruce Momjian Wrote: > > > > > I have committed the first draft of the 9.5 release notes. You can > > view the output here: > > > > http://momjian.us/pgsql_docs/release-9-5.html > > > > and it will eve

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-08-06 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 09:44:04PM +0200, Andres Freund wrote: > Hi, > > On 2015-06-11 00:15:21 -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > I have committed the first draft of the 9.5 release notes. You can view > > the output here: > > I'm looking through all the commits, checking which I think should > po

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-08-06 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 06:44:40PM -0300, Alvaro Herrera wrote: > Bruce Momjian wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 08:21:19PM +0200, Andres Freund wrote: > > > > I think 647248e3708, 4fe384bd85, 4f85fde8, 59f71a0d0 should also be > > > > I couldn't look up 647248e3708, I got "unknown revision or

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-08-06 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Bruce Momjian wrote: > On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 08:21:19PM +0200, Andres Freund wrote: > > I think 647248e3708, 4fe384bd85, 4f85fde8, 59f71a0d0 should also be > > I couldn't look up 647248e3708, I got "unknown revision or path not in > the working tree." a "6" is missing. 6647248e3708 -- Álvar

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-08-06 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 11:34:27AM +0200, Andres Freund wrote: > On 2015-06-23 21:08:36 -0400, Robert Haas wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 5:48 PM, Kevin Grittner wrote: > > > Andres Freund wrote: > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>Improve concurrent locking and buffer scan performanc

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-08-06 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 08:21:19PM +0200, Andres Freund wrote: > Hi, > > On 2015-06-11 00:15:21 -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > I have committed the first draft of the 9.5 release notes. You can view > > the output here: > > So, I did a pass through master's state: > > > > > > >

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-08-06 Thread Peter Geoghegan
On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 3:39 PM, Peter Geoghegan wrote: > I attach a compatibility note that is clearly needed; adding this is > an open item of mine for 9.5. This concerns foreign data wrappers and > UPSERT. Can you look at this please, Bruce? -- Peter Geoghegan -- Sent via pgsql-hackers m

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-08-06 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 01:48:26PM -0400, Robert Haas wrote: > On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 10:33 AM, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 12:05:54PM +0100, Dean Rasheed wrote: > >> On 11 June 2015 at 05:15, Bruce Momjian wrote: > >> > I have committed the first draft of the 9.5 release not

Fwd: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-08-06 Thread Jeff Janes
On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 9:15 PM, Bruce Momjian wrote: > I have committed the first draft of the 9.5 release notes. You can view > the output here: > > http://momjian.us/pgsql_docs/release-9-5.html > > and it will eventually appear here: > > http://www.postgresql.org/docs/devel/st

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-08-06 Thread Robert Haas
On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 10:33 AM, Bruce Momjian wrote: > On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 12:05:54PM +0100, Dean Rasheed wrote: >> On 11 June 2015 at 05:15, Bruce Momjian wrote: >> > I have committed the first draft of the 9.5 release notes. You can view >> > the output here: >> > >> > http://momj

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-08-06 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 12:05:54PM +0100, Dean Rasheed wrote: > On 11 June 2015 at 05:15, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > I have committed the first draft of the 9.5 release notes. You can view > > the output here: > > > > http://momjian.us/pgsql_docs/release-9-5.html > > > > I think it's worth

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-07-09 Thread Peter Geoghegan
On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 3:39 PM, Peter Geoghegan wrote: > I attach a compatibility note that is clearly needed; adding this is > an open item of mine for 9.5. This concerns foreign data wrappers and > UPSERT. Are you going to review this, Bruce? It is an open item for 9.5. I would also like you

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-30 Thread Andres Freund
I've gone through the release notes and added comments referencing commits as discussed earlier. Additionally I've improved and added a bunch of items. Further stuff that came up while looking: * 2014-09-25 [b0d81ad] Heikki..: Add -D option to specify data directory to pg_c.. new options, shoul

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-29 Thread Andres Freund
On 2015-06-29 17:58:54 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: > Yeah we are. The only places you'll find where we aren't formatting to 77 > or 78 columns or so are where it would require breaking SGML tags in weird > places. Which isn't exactly infrequent... Anyway, how about: format:%cd [%h] %<(8,trunc)%cN: %<

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-29 Thread Tom Lane
Andres Freund writes: > On 2015-06-29 17:44:06 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: >> Ah yes, didn't see that option. That's definitely better. I'd still vote >> for restricting it to fit in an 80-column window though. > I don't see the benefit of truncating away the end of the commit message > - that'll ju

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-29 Thread Andres Freund
On 2015-06-29 17:44:06 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: > Andres Freund writes: > > How about: > > git log --pretty='format:%cd [%h] %cN: %s' --date=short upstream/master > > Ah yes, didn't see that option. That's definitely better. I'd still vote > for restricting it to fit in an 80-column window though

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-29 Thread Tom Lane
Andres Freund writes: > How about: > git log --pretty='format:%cd [%h] %cN: %s' --date=short upstream/master Ah yes, didn't see that option. That's definitely better. I'd still vote for restricting it to fit in an 80-column window though. regards, tom lane -- Sent vi

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-29 Thread Andres Freund
On 2015-06-29 17:30:57 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: > Andres Freund writes: > > Haven't yet thought much about the format, maybe in the style of > > git log --pretty='format:[%h] %aN [%ci]: %s' upstream/master > > I'd personally like to see the hash and the time, the rest isn't > > particularly importan

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-29 Thread Tom Lane
Andres Freund writes: > Haven't yet thought much about the format, maybe in the style of > git log --pretty='format:[%h] %aN [%ci]: %s' upstream/master > I'd personally like to see the hash and the time, the rest isn't > particularly important to me. [ ... plays with that ... ] Hm. To keep down

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-29 Thread Andres Freund
On 2015-06-29 17:05:59 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: > +1. Helps confirm which items are meant to correspond to which commits. That's what made me think of it. > In case you didn't realize it already, the stuff I put into the minor > release notes is from src/tools/git_changelog. Dunno whether we need

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-29 Thread Tom Lane
Andres Freund writes: > I'm working on integrating the suggestions I made last week to the > release notes. Would anybody mind if I start to add commit ids in > comments, similar to what Tom has done for minor releases, to news > items? +1. Helps confirm which items are meant to correspond to wh

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-29 Thread Andres Freund
Hi, On 2015-06-11 00:15:21 -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > I have committed the first draft of the 9.5 release notes. I'm working on integrating the suggestions I made last week to the release notes. Would anybody mind if I start to add commit ids in comments, similar to what Tom has done for minor

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-26 Thread Peter Geoghegan
On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 3:39 PM, Peter Geoghegan wrote: > On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 9:15 PM, Bruce Momjian wrote: >> I am ready to make suggested adjustments Also, I attach a new description of the UPSERT feature. For me, UPSERT was always about guarantees that make statements work robustly under

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-26 Thread Peter Geoghegan
On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 9:15 PM, Bruce Momjian wrote: > I am ready to make suggested adjustments I attach a compatibility note that is clearly needed; adding this is an open item of mine for 9.5. This concerns foreign data wrappers and UPSERT. -- Peter Geoghegan diff --git a/doc/src/sgml/releas

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-26 Thread Robert Haas
On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 2:37 PM, Peter Geoghegan wrote: > On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 11:29 AM, Robert Haas wrote: >> >> OK, but how about this wording instead? > > That seems fine. > >> BTW, shouldn't Andrew also be credited here, since he did the work on >> datum sorts? > > Andrew's work was entire

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-26 Thread Peter Geoghegan
On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 11:29 AM, Robert Haas wrote: > > OK, but how about this wording instead? That seems fine. > BTW, shouldn't Andrew also be credited here, since he did the work on > datum sorts? Andrew's work was entirely confined to making datum sorts work with abbreviation, which seems

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-26 Thread Robert Haas
On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 2:25 PM, Peter Geoghegan wrote: > On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 9:29 AM, Robert Haas wrote: >> Can you put your suggestions here in the form of a patch to the release >> notes? > > The attached patch generalizes from the 9.2 release note wording. I > use the word "inlined" here

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-26 Thread Peter Geoghegan
On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 9:29 AM, Robert Haas wrote: > Can you put your suggestions here in the form of a patch to the release notes? The attached patch generalizes from the 9.2 release note wording. I use the word "inlined" here too, even though commit 5ea86e6e6 did not do too much with inlining

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-26 Thread Robert Haas
On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 2:01 PM, Alvaro Herrera wrote: > Robert Haas wrote: >> On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 12:09 AM, Amit Langote >> wrote: > >> > Is it intentional that the following items are separate? >> > [...] >> > Or could they made into one item? >> >> I think one item would be fine. > > I sug

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-26 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Robert Haas wrote: > On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 12:09 AM, Amit Langote > wrote: > > Is it intentional that the following items are separate? > > [...] > > Or could they made into one item? > > I think one item would be fine. I suggested the same a couple of weeks ago. -- Álvaro Herrera

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-26 Thread Robert Haas
On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 12:09 AM, Amit Langote wrote: > On 2015-06-11 PM 01:15, Bruce Momjian wrote: >> I have committed the first draft of the 9.5 release notes. You can view >> the output here: >> >> http://momjian.us/pgsql_docs/release-9-5.html >> >> and it will eventually appear here: >

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-26 Thread Robert Haas
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 6:47 PM, Peter Geoghegan wrote: > On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 2:08 PM, Peter Geoghegan wrote: >> Really? The pre-check thing wasn't too complex for Magnus to have a >> couple of bullet points on it *specifically* in his high level NYC >> talk on Postgres 9.5 features [1]. I do

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-24 Thread Amit Langote
Hi, On 2015-06-11 PM 01:15, Bruce Momjian wrote: > I have committed the first draft of the 9.5 release notes. You can view > the output here: > > http://momjian.us/pgsql_docs/release-9-5.html > > and it will eventually appear here: > > http://www.postgresql.org/docs/devel/st

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-24 Thread Peter Geoghegan
On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 2:08 PM, Peter Geoghegan wrote: > Really? The pre-check thing wasn't too complex for Magnus to have a > couple of bullet points on it *specifically* in his high level NYC > talk on Postgres 9.5 features [1]. I don't think it's hard to > understand at all. > > Also, it's sim

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-24 Thread Andres Freund
On 2015-06-23 21:08:36 -0400, Robert Haas wrote: > On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 5:48 PM, Kevin Grittner wrote: > > Andres Freund wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>Improve concurrent locking and buffer scan performance (Andres > >>>Freund, Kevin Grittner) > >>> > >>> > >

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-23 Thread Robert Haas
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 5:48 PM, Kevin Grittner wrote: > Andres Freund wrote: >>> >>> >>>Improve concurrent locking and buffer scan performance (Andres >>>Freund, Kevin Grittner) >>> >>> >> >> If this is ab5194e6f, I don't think it makes sense to mention

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-23 Thread Kevin Grittner
Andres Freund wrote: >> >> >>Improve concurrent locking and buffer scan performance (Andres >>Freund, Kevin Grittner) >> >> > > If this is ab5194e6f, I don't think it makes sense to mention "buffer > scan" - it's just any lwlock, and buffer locks aren't th

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-22 Thread Rajeev rastogi
On 11 June 2015 09:45, Bruce Momjian Wrote: > > I have committed the first draft of the 9.5 release notes. You can > view the output here: > > http://momjian.us/pgsql_docs/release-9-5.html > > and it will eventually appear here: > > http://www.postgresql.org/docs/devel/static/rele

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-19 Thread Andres Freund
Hi, On 2015-06-11 00:15:21 -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > I have committed the first draft of the 9.5 release notes. You can view > the output here: I'm looking through all the commits, checking which I think should possibly be mentioned additionally: - 9f03ca91 - Speed up CREATE INDEX by avoidin

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-19 Thread Andres Freund
Hi, On 2015-06-11 00:15:21 -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > I have committed the first draft of the 9.5 release notes. You can view > the output here: So, I did a pass through master's state: > > >Add Block Range Indexes (BRIN) >(Álvaro Herrera, Heikki Linnakangas, Emr

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-16 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Bruce Momjian wrote: > On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 11:21:35AM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: > > For pretty much the same reason, I'm not in favor of small caps either. > > Even assuming we can do that consistently (which I bet we can't; we > > do not have all that much control over how web browsers render HT

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-16 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 11:21:35AM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: > Bruce Momjian writes: > > OK, new idea. What about, instead of having the last name be all-caps, > > we have the last name start with an uppercase letter, then use smallcaps > > for the rest of the last name: > > https://en.wikipedia

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-14 Thread Peter Geoghegan
On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 6:24 PM, Bruce Momjian wrote: >> I think we should really address this. Attached patch adds a new >> release note item for it. It also adds to the documentation that >> explains why users should prefer varchar(n)/text to character(n); the >> lack of abbreviated key support

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-14 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 01:57:08PM -0300, Alvaro Herrera wrote: > Bruce Momjian wrote: > > On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 05:47:59AM -0300, Alvaro Herrera wrote: > > > > Also, it looks like we could spell your last name with an accent, > > > assuming the i-acute character in Latin1 is fine. > > > > Ah,

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-14 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Bruce Momjian wrote: > On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 05:47:59AM -0300, Alvaro Herrera wrote: > > Also, it looks like we could spell your last name with an accent, > > assuming the i-acute character in Latin1 is fine. > > Ah, you are correct. I found a few commits that did have that accent. > All _sev

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-14 Thread Tom Lane
Bruce Momjian writes: > OK, new idea. What about, instead of having the last name be all-caps, > we have the last name start with an uppercase letter, then use smallcaps > for the rest of the last name: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Small_caps > That way, the last name will not appear too

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-14 Thread Stephen Frost
* Bruce Momjian (br...@momjian.us) wrote: > On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 11:30:30PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > Note that I guess "MauMau" is a nickname. > > > > I think we are fine consistenly putting Japanese last names first _if_ > > we always capitalize the last name, e.g. "FUJITA Etsuro" ---

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-14 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 11:30:30PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > Note that I guess "MauMau" is a nickname. > > I think we are fine consistenly putting Japanese last names first _if_ > we always capitalize the last name, e.g. "FUJITA Etsuro" --- is that a > good idea? Does everyone like that? Do

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-14 Thread Dean Rasheed
On 11 June 2015 at 05:15, Bruce Momjian wrote: > I have committed the first draft of the 9.5 release notes. You can view > the output here: > > http://momjian.us/pgsql_docs/release-9-5.html > I think it's worth mentioning dcbf5948e12aa60b4d6ab65b6445897dfc971e01, probably under "General

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-14 Thread Petr Jelinek
On 2015-06-14 03:02, Bruce Momjian wrote: On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 05:47:59AM -0300, Alvaro Herrera wrote: Petr Jelinek wrote: Hi, + + +Add JSONB functions jsonb_set() and +jsonb_pretty (Dmitry Dolgov, Andrew Dunstan) + + I believe I should be 3rd auth

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-13 Thread Michael Paquier
On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Bruce Momjian wrote: > On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 11:44:25AM +0900, Tatsuo Ishii wrote: >> The real question here is, if contributors are required to show their >> "official" names (along with their alias or nickname if any). If yes, >> it is apparent that all contri

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-13 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 11:44:25AM +0900, Tatsuo Ishii wrote: > The real question here is, if contributors are required to show their > "official" names (along with their alias or nickname if any). If yes, > it is apparent that all contributor names should be shown in a unified > formal style. >

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-13 Thread Tatsuo Ishii
> Bruce Momjian wrote: >> I have committed the first draft of the 9.5 release notes. You can view >> the output here: >> >> http://momjian.us/pgsql_docs/release-9-5.html > > I noticed something while reading this and would like the input of our > Japanese contributors. > > Normally, wester

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-13 Thread Jan de Visser
On June 13, 2015 09:30:12 PM Bruce Momjian wrote: > Are there other countries where this would be appropriate? I'm pretty sure Hungarian uses the family name-given name ordering, and it's also sometimes used in French, and therefore you often see French family names spelled in all caps. --

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-13 Thread Kouhei Kaigai
> On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 08:18:26PM -0300, Alvaro Herrera wrote: > > Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > I have committed the first draft of the 9.5 release notes. You can view > > > the output here: > > > > > > http://momjian.us/pgsql_docs/release-9-5.html > > > > I noticed something while reading this

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-13 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Bruce Momjian wrote: > On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 08:20:48PM -0300, Alvaro Herrera wrote: > > Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > I have committed the first draft of the 9.5 release notes. You can view > > > the output here: > > > > > > http://momjian.us/pgsql_docs/release-9-5.html > > > > One more thing

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-13 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 08:18:26PM -0300, Alvaro Herrera wrote: > Bruce Momjian wrote: > > I have committed the first draft of the 9.5 release notes. You can view > > the output here: > > > > http://momjian.us/pgsql_docs/release-9-5.html > > I noticed something while reading this and would l

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-13 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 03:53:43PM -0700, Peter Geoghegan wrote: > On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Peter Geoghegan wrote: > > I'm not sure if it's worth mentioning the "cheap equality for text" > > commit (e246b3d6eac09). I guess that it probably is, because it will > > help with things like inde

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-13 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 08:20:48PM -0300, Alvaro Herrera wrote: > Bruce Momjian wrote: > > I have committed the first draft of the 9.5 release notes. You can view > > the output here: > > > > http://momjian.us/pgsql_docs/release-9-5.html > > One more thing on names. You have Alexander Shulg

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-13 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 07:52:22AM -0300, Alvaro Herrera wrote: > Bruce Momjian wrote: > > I have committed the first draft of the 9.5 release notes. You can view > > the output here: > > > > http://momjian.us/pgsql_docs/release-9-5.html > > > > and it will eventually appear here: > > >

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-13 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 05:47:59AM -0300, Alvaro Herrera wrote: > Petr Jelinek wrote: > > Hi, > > > > + > > + > > +Add JSONB functions jsonb_set() and > > +jsonb_pretty (Dmitry Dolgov, Andrew Dunstan) > > + > > + > > > > I believe I should be 3rd author f

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-13 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 08:25:55AM +0530, Amit Kapila wrote: > On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 7:47 AM, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > > On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 09:02:35PM +0200, Magnus Hagander wrote: > > > On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 8:56 PM, Josh Berkus wrote: > > > > > >     On 06/10/2015 09:50 PM, Amit Kapi

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-13 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Bruce Momjian wrote: > I have committed the first draft of the 9.5 release notes. You can view > the output here: > > http://momjian.us/pgsql_docs/release-9-5.html One more thing on names. You have Alexander Shulgin as Alex Shulgin in the second place his name appears. Also, since he mov

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-13 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Bruce Momjian wrote: > I have committed the first draft of the 9.5 release notes. You can view > the output here: > > http://momjian.us/pgsql_docs/release-9-5.html I noticed something while reading this and would like the input of our Japanese contributors. Normally, western names are wri

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-13 Thread Peter Geoghegan
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Peter Geoghegan wrote: > I'm not sure if it's worth mentioning the "cheap equality for text" > commit (e246b3d6eac09). I guess that it probably is, because it will > help with things like index scans, too. Arguably that isn't a sorting > thing (it's certainly not *

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-13 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Bruce Momjian wrote: > I have committed the first draft of the 9.5 release notes. You can view > the output here: > > http://momjian.us/pgsql_docs/release-9-5.html > > and it will eventually appear here: > > http://www.postgresql.org/docs/devel/static/release.html > > I am re

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-13 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Petr Jelinek wrote: > Hi, > > + > + > +Add JSONB functions jsonb_set() and > +jsonb_pretty (Dmitry Dolgov, Andrew Dunstan) > + > + > > I believe I should be 3rd author for this one as I rewrote large parts of > this functionality as part of the review. A

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-12 Thread Amit Kapila
On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 7:47 AM, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 09:02:35PM +0200, Magnus Hagander wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 8:56 PM, Josh Berkus wrote: > > > > On 06/10/2015 09:50 PM, Amit Kapila wrote: > > > Also shall we mention about below in Migrations to 9.

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