Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] New email list for emergency communications

2008-03-25 Thread Bruce Momjian
Andrew Dunstan wrote: > >> Surely that there is an emerging consensus to that effect means that it's > >> not as unfortunate as it might be? I seem to recall the original > >> announcement suggesting this was an experiment. I wouldn't expect the > >> first > >> couple rounds to go without a hitc

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] New email list for emergency communications

2008-03-25 Thread Andrew Dunstan
Tom Lane wrote: Andrew Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 06:39:25PM -0400, Andrew Dunstan wrote: perusing a mailbox again. We have unfortunately been badly underprepared for this. Surely that there is an emerging consensus to that effect means t

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] New email list for emergency communications

2008-03-25 Thread Tom Lane
Andrew Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 06:39:25PM -0400, Andrew Dunstan wrote: >> perusing a mailbox again. We have unfortunately been badly underprepared >> for this. > Surely that there is an emerging consensus to that effect means that it's > not as unfortunate a

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] New email list for emergency communications

2008-03-25 Thread Andrew Sullivan
On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 06:39:25PM -0400, Andrew Dunstan wrote: > perusing a mailbox again. We have unfortunately been badly underprepared > for this. Surely that there is an emerging consensus to that effect means that it's not as unfortunate as it might be? I seem to recall the original annou

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] New email list for emergency communications

2008-03-24 Thread Bruce Momjian
bruce wrote: > Gregory Stark wrote: > > "Bruce Momjian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > You can get the message-ids by grep'ing the mbox file, and the comments > > > are all: > > > > > > http://js-kit.com/rss/momjian.us/msgid-* > > > > > > e.g. > > > > > > http://js-kit.com/rss/momjian.u

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] New email list for emergency communications

2008-03-24 Thread Bruce Momjian
Gregory Stark wrote: > "Bruce Momjian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > You can get the message-ids by grep'ing the mbox file, and the comments > > are all: > > > > http://js-kit.com/rss/momjian.us/msgid-* > > > > e.g. > > > > http://js-kit.com/rss/momjian.us/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Huh, f

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] New email list for emergency communications

2008-03-24 Thread Gregory Stark
"Bruce Momjian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > You can get the message-ids by grep'ing the mbox file, and the comments > are all: > > http://js-kit.com/rss/momjian.us/msgid-* > > e.g. > > http://js-kit.com/rss/momjian.us/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Huh, fascinating. it's actually an RSS feed. I

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] New email list for emergency communications

2008-03-24 Thread Bruce Momjian
Alvaro Herrera wrote: > Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > > If we modify the archives to have a URL to go straight to a message-id and > > > Bruce generated a list all on one page including comments and message-ids > > > then > > > I could process them all into a wiki page in a few hours. > > > > Ideal

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] New email list for emergency communications

2008-03-24 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Bruce Momjian wrote: > > If we modify the archives to have a URL to go straight to a message-id and > > Bruce generated a list all on one page including comments and message-ids > > then > > I could process them all into a wiki page in a few hours. > > Ideally we could have a message id link to

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] New email list for emergency communications

2008-03-24 Thread Bruce Momjian
Gregory Stark wrote: > "Bruce Momjian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >> I tried this once already. I dumped the first page of Bruce's queue into a > >> wiki page and laid it out in a column. But I wanted to add links back to > >> the > >> messages in the archive and ran into a problem with that

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] New email list for emergency communications

2008-03-24 Thread Gregory Stark
"Bruce Momjian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> I tried this once already. I dumped the first page of Bruce's queue into a >> wiki page and laid it out in a column. But I wanted to add links back to the >> messages in the archive and ran into a problem with that. It also would have >> been a pain b

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] New email list for emergency communications

2008-03-24 Thread Bruce Momjian
Tom Lane wrote: > Gregory Stark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Am i looking at the right list though? The one I'm looking at still starts > > with a patch to which Tom commented "This is superseded by a later > > submission" > > which I think has been there since pretty much the start of the comm

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] New email list for emergency communications

2008-03-24 Thread Bruce Momjian
Gregory Stark wrote: > > > "Bruce Momjian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Alvaro Herrera wrote: > >> > >> I'm not sure I follow. I tried last week to give some hours for patch > >> review. What actually happened was that I had to wade through a ton of > >> stuff, skipping patches that were

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] New email list for emergency communications

2008-03-24 Thread Tom Lane
Gregory Stark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Am i looking at the right list though? The one I'm looking at still starts > with a patch to which Tom commented "This is superseded by a later submission" > which I think has been there since pretty much the start of the commitfest. Yeah, there is still

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] New email list for emergency communications

2008-03-24 Thread Gregory Stark
"Bruce Momjian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Alvaro Herrera wrote: >> >> I'm not sure I follow. I tried last week to give some hours for patch >> review. What actually happened was that I had to wade through a ton of >> stuff, skipping patches that were already applied, threads that were >>

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] New email list for emergency communications

2008-03-24 Thread Andrew Dunstan
Alvaro Herrera wrote: Also I don't know what patches we have for the next commitfest. I would gladly give some time to put up a Wiki page to list the patches for the next commitfest. Would that be helpful? Yes. My experience is similar to yours. I'm not prepared to spend hours perusin

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] New email list for emergency communications

2008-03-24 Thread Bruce Momjian
Alvaro Herrera wrote: > Bruce Momjian wrote: > > Alvaro Herrera wrote: > > > > I did manage to find actual patches, but I had then to resort to my own > > > mailbox to get the actual patch to apply and review. > > > > You can download an mbox of the entire queue if that helps. > > Ah, yeah, that

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] New email list for emergency communications

2008-03-24 Thread Bruce Momjian
Tom Lane wrote: > Bruce Momjian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Also I don't know what patches we have for the next commitfest. I would > >> gladly give some time to put up a Wiki page to list the patches for the > >> next commitfest. Would that be helpful? > > > Uh, I don't think we have any p

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] New email list for emergency communications

2008-03-24 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Bruce Momjian wrote: > Alvaro Herrera wrote: > > I did manage to find actual patches, but I had then to resort to my own > > mailbox to get the actual patch to apply and review. > > You can download an mbox of the entire queue if that helps. Ah, yeah, that's what I did. > > Also I don't know w

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] New email list for emergency communications

2008-03-24 Thread Tom Lane
Bruce Momjian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Also I don't know what patches we have for the next commitfest. I would >> gladly give some time to put up a Wiki page to list the patches for the >> next commitfest. Would that be helpful? > Uh, I don't think we have any patches for the next commit f

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] New email list for emergency communications

2008-03-24 Thread Bruce Momjian
Alvaro Herrera wrote: > Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > This is an interesting observation that deserves to be discussed > > separately, and relates to the patch queue. Many people want to know > > what is happening with the patch queue but having better reporting > > doesn't seem to help much the peo

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] New email list for emergency communications

2008-03-24 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Bruce Momjian wrote: > This is an interesting observation that deserves to be discussed > separately, and relates to the patch queue. Many people want to know > what is happening with the patch queue but having better reporting > doesn't seem to help much the people who are actually processing th

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] New email list for emergency communications

2008-03-24 Thread Bruce Momjian
Stefan Kaltenbrunner wrote: [ Discussion about making infrastructure downtime more visible to people.] > > Right now, when email is down, I just start IM'ing people. A more > > structured system would help me. > > Some people would say a more structured approach to patch/bug tracking > would h