> ... not even certain whether an ARC replacement will be needed:
> we might be able to adapt the existing code to workaround the
> patent, the patent might not be granted, or IBM might grant
> us a license to use it. It's also worth emphasizing that this
How about contacting IBM to see where
Neil Conway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Tue, 2005-01-18 at 23:26 -0500, Tom Lane wrote:
>> Not yet --- I suggested it but didn't get any yeas or nays. I don't
>> feel this is solely core's decision anyway ... what do the assembled
>> hackers think?
> I'm not aware of a recent example of shor
On Tue, 2005-01-18 at 23:26 -0500, Tom Lane wrote:
> Not yet --- I suggested it but didn't get any yeas or nays. I don't
> feel this is solely core's decision anyway ... what do the assembled
> hackers think?
I'm not sure it's a great idea.
I'm not aware of a recent example of short development
I submitted the patches and additional files for the OS/2 port on the
patches ML.
I might as well claim responsibility for that port and put myself down as
the maintainer...
Lorne Sunley
Winnipeg MB
Canada
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Bernd Helmle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> For automatic view update rules we are planning to implement column default
> value inheritance, so that the view's column definition inherits from their
> base table columns (and nobody has to use an explicit ALTER TABLE view
> ALTER col SET DEFAULT ..
Neil Conway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Mon, 2005-01-17 at 18:43 -0500, Tom Lane wrote:
>> I have already
>> suggested to core that we should insist on 8.1 not requiring an initdb,
>> so as to ensure that people will migrate up to it easily from 8.0.
> So is it firm policy that changes that r
Magnus Hagander wrote:
According to this: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q165695/ Windows
Desktop update was included with IE 4, but not with IE 5 or later.
Further, if you want to install Windows Desktop Update you have to
first remove IE 5 or later. And finally it says that Windows Desktop
I have made a new release of buildfarm client code, which has some small
bug fixes and enhancements, and also has the substantial changes
necessary to allow the client to run on Windows. That client can be
obtained from http://pgfoundry.org/frs/?group_id=140
I have also made some modest cha
For automatic view update rules we are planning to implement column default
value inheritance, so that the view's column definition inherits from their
base table columns (and nobody has to use an explicit ALTER TABLE view
ALTER col SET DEFAULT ... ). Note that we will do that only for views,
w
On Wed, Jan 19, 2005 at 10:48:00AM +1100, Neil Conway wrote:
> On Mon, 2005-01-17 at 18:43 -0500, Tom Lane wrote:
> > I have already
> > suggested to core that we should insist on 8.1 not requiring an initdb,
> > so as to ensure that people will migrate up to it easily from 8.0.
>
> So is it firm
On Mon, 2005-01-17 at 18:43 -0500, Tom Lane wrote:
> I have already
> suggested to core that we should insist on 8.1 not requiring an initdb,
> so as to ensure that people will migrate up to it easily from 8.0.
So is it firm policy that changes that require a catversion update
cannot be made durin
> Certainly not; ACID was a recognized goal long before anyone thought of
> MVCC. You do need much more locking to make it work without MVCC,
> though --- for instance, a reader that is interested in a just-modified
> row has to block until the writer completes or rolls back.
>
> People who hang
> "Tom" == Tom Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Tom> People who hang around Postgres too long tend to think that
Tom> MVCC is the obviously correct way to do things, but much of
Tom> the rest of the world thinks differently ;-)
It works the other way too ... people who come from t
Jeff Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I almost think to not supply an MVCC system would break the "I" in ACID,
> would it not?
Certainly not; ACID was a recognized goal long before anyone thought of
MVCC. You do need much more locking to make it work without MVCC,
though --- for instance, a re
On Mon, 2005-01-17 at 15:11 -0500, Andrew Dunstan wrote:
> There's a very recent paper at
> http://carmen.cs.uiuc.edu/~zchen9/paper/TPDS-final.ps on an alternative
> to ARC which claims superior performance ...
>From a quick glance, this doesn't look applicable. The authors are
discussing buffer
Alvaro Herrera schrieb:
On Tue, Jan 18, 2005 at 08:15:10PM +0100, Matthias Schmidt wrote:
1) Allow limits on per-db/user connections
Sounds hard to do: what limits? CPU, disk?
Note that a typical server limit, the load average, will not be
portable. There's no WIN32 solution yet.
The CPU load is a
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 at 11:53, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> ... if someone knows how to safely remove a branch that has had no
> commits made to it, please let me know,
a little bit of googling brought me to this:
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/info-cvs/2003-11/msg00166.html
--- snip ---
> How
On Tue, 2005-01-18 at 12:45 -0800, Sailesh Krishnamurthy wrote:
> > "Jonah" == Jonah H Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Jonah> Replying to the list as a whole:
>
> Jonah> If this is such a bad idea, why do other database systems
> Jonah> use it? As a businessperson myself,
> "Jonah" == Jonah H Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Jonah> Replying to the list as a whole:
Jonah> If this is such a bad idea, why do other database systems
Jonah> use it? As a businessperson myself, it doesn't seem
Jonah> logical to me that commercial database companies
* Matthias Schmidt ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> 3) Allow GRANT/REVOKE permissions to be applied to all schema objects
> with one
This would be nice. I had to write a perl script to do it here. :)
It'd also be nice to be able to specify a set of permissions that will
be inheirited by newly create
Matthias Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> These are the things I'm interested in:
> 1) Allow limits on per-db/user connections
> 2) Allow server log information to be output as INSERT statements
> 3) Allow GRANT/REVOKE permissions to be applied to all schema objects
> with one
> 4) Allow PRE
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 09:22:58 +0200
Many countries do not grant software patents so it is not
likely
that IBM applied through PCT since a refusal in one
country may
cause to patent to be refused in all countries.
Contrary to popular misconception, virtually all countries
grant software patents.
On Tue, Jan 18, 2005 at 08:15:10PM +0100, Matthias Schmidt wrote:
> 1) Allow limits on per-db/user connections
Sounds hard to do: what limits? CPU, disk?
> 2) Allow server log information to be output as INSERT statements
Is this really needed?
> 3) Allow GRANT/REVOKE permissions to be applied
Hi *,
I have some cylcles left and like to pick up something from the TODO
list.
These are the things I'm interested in:
1) Allow limits on per-db/user connections
2) Allow server log information to be output as INSERT statements
3) Allow GRANT/REVOKE permissions to be applied to all schema objec
Hi Magnus,
On Jan 18, 2005, at 1:34 PM, Magnus Hagander wrote:
1) Declare NT4 without IE4 unsupported. This is by far the easiest :P
What we'd do later is add a check to the MSI installer to inform the
user about this.
Seems a bit gross to say that NT4 is supported, but only if you happen
to have
Andrew Dunstan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Simon Riggs wrote:
>
>>So, it also seems clear that 8.0.x should eventually have a straight
>>upgrade path to a replacement, assuming the patent is granted. We
>>should therefore plan to: 1. improve/replace ARC for 8.1 2. backport
>>any replacement dire
>> Hmm. That would seem to have it. Can you check the version on your
>> SHELL32.DLL?
>> The MSDN docs for the version in question
>> (http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/
>> shellc
>>
>c/platform/shell/reference/functions/shgetspecialfolderpath.asp) claims
>> it need
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005, Andrew Dunstan wrote:
Quite so. Only by direct hacking on the ,v files, AFAIK - i.e. NOT
something to be done except in dire emergency. As long as nobody commits
to the branch is there any harm done by leaving it there? I presume all
the committers know which branch they sho
> >> I'm running 'psql.exe -- version' and I'm getting this dialog:
> >>
> >> psql.exe - Entry Point Not Found: The procedure entry point
> >> SHGetSpecialFolderPathA could not be located in the dynamic link
> >> library SHELL32.DLL.
> >
> > Do you have the IE4 Desktop Update installed?
>
> I th
Hi Magnus,
On Jan 18, 2005, at 10:50 AM, Magnus Hagander wrote:
I'm running 'psql.exe -- version' and I'm getting this dialog:
psql.exe - Entry Point Not Found: The procedure entry point
SHGetSpecialFolderPathA could not be located in the dynamic
link library SHELL32.DLL.
Do you have the IE4 Deskto
On Jan 18, 2005, at 11:05 AM, Magnus Hagander wrote:
Hmm. That would seem to have it. Can you check the version on your
SHELL32.DLL?
The MSDN docs for the version in question
(http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/
shellc
c/platform/shell/reference/functions/shgetspecial
Marc G. Fournier wrote:
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005, Bruce Momjian wrote:
Tom Lane wrote:
Bruce Momjian writes:
Tom Lane wrote:
I'm not convinced Marc got the branching/tagging right; let's wait
till
the dust settles.
I IM'ed him and he said to go ahead.
Maybe he said that, but I see no evidence that
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005, Bruce Momjian wrote:
Tom Lane wrote:
Bruce Momjian writes:
Tom Lane wrote:
I'm not convinced Marc got the branching/tagging right; let's wait till
the dust settles.
I IM'ed him and he said to go ahead.
Maybe he said that, but I see no evidence that he's tagged 8.0.0
correctly
On Tue, Jan 18, 2005 at 09:22:58AM +0200, Nicolai Tufar wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> Patents do not transcend international border. They need
> to be applied for in each country separately.
>
> To ease the process of applying for patents in many countries
> at once Patent Cooperation Treaty (PCT) was
I'm running 'psql.exe -- version' and I'm getting this dialog:
psql.exe - Entry Point Not Found: The procedure entry point
SHGetSpecialFolderPathA could not be located in the dynamic link
library SHELL32.DLL.
I got this for both the version I compiled and psql from the
pgInstaller (both operati
I think the ARC issue is the same with any other patent ...
Recently somebody pointed me to a nice site showing some examples:
http://www.base.com/software-patents/examples.html
Looking at the list briefly I can find at least five patent problems
using any operating system with PostgreSQL.
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