Re: 2021-08-12 release announcement draft

2021-08-11 Thread Jonathan S. Katz
On 8/11/21 8:53 PM, Jonathan S. Katz wrote: > On 8/11/21 7:25 PM, David Rowley wrote: > I've updated it to: > > "This release marks the third beta release of PostgreSQL 14 and puts the > community one step closer to general availability around the end of the > third quarter." And made another up

Re: 2021-08-12 release announcement draft

2021-08-11 Thread Jonathan S. Katz
On 8/11/21 7:25 PM, David Rowley wrote: > Thanks for drafting this up. > > On Thu, 12 Aug 2021 at 04:32, Jonathan S. Katz wrote: >> Please ensure you have your feedback in no later than midnight today >> (Aug 11) AoE[1]. > > It might not be the exact technical feedback you had in mind, but I > t

Re: 2021-08-12 release announcement draft

2021-08-11 Thread Isaac Morland
On Wed, 11 Aug 2021 at 19:50, Gavin Flower wrote: > Living in New Zealand, I'd definitely agreed with not using seasons as > they are hemispheric specific. > > Does anybody, other than the Americans, use 'Fall'' for Autumn??? > Canadian here. We often use “Fall”, and we’re not Americans even th

Re: 2021-08-12 release announcement draft

2021-08-11 Thread Gavin Flower
On 12/08/21 11:25 am, David Rowley wrote: Thanks for drafting this up. On Thu, 12 Aug 2021 at 04:32, Jonathan S. Katz wrote: Please ensure you have your feedback in no later than midnight today (Aug 11) AoE[1]. It might not be the exact technical feedback you had in mind, but I think the foll

Re: 2021-08-12 release announcement draft

2021-08-11 Thread David Rowley
Thanks for drafting this up. On Thu, 12 Aug 2021 at 04:32, Jonathan S. Katz wrote: > Please ensure you have your feedback in no later than midnight today > (Aug 11) AoE[1]. It might not be the exact technical feedback you had in mind, but I think the following could be improved: + This release

Re: 2021-08-12 release announcement draft

2021-08-11 Thread Jonathan S. Katz
On 8/11/21 2:46 PM, Justin Pryzby wrote: > On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 12:32:41PM -0400, Jonathan S. Katz wrote: > >> * walsenders now show their latest replication commands in >> `pg_stat_activity`, >> instead of just showing the latest SQL command. > > singular "command" in pg_stat_activity ? Adj

Re: 2021-08-12 release announcement draft

2021-08-11 Thread Justin Pryzby
On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 12:32:41PM -0400, Jonathan S. Katz wrote: > * walsenders now show their latest replication commands in `pg_stat_activity`, > instead of just showing the latest SQL command. singular "command" in pg_stat_activity ? > * `pg_settings.pending_restart` now show as true when a

Re: 2021-08-12 release announcement draft

2021-08-11 Thread Peter Geoghegan
On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 11:42 AM Jonathan S. Katz wrote: > So perhaps: > > "* `pg_upgrade` now carries forward the old installation's `oldestXID` > value and no longer forces an anti-wraparound `VACUUM`." > > or maybe even: > > "* `pg_upgrade` no longer forces an anti-wraparound `VACUUM`." I pref

Re: 2021-08-12 release announcement draft

2021-08-11 Thread Jonathan S. Katz
On 8/11/21 2:29 PM, Peter Geoghegan wrote: > On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 11:23 AM Jonathan S. Katz > wrote: >> How about: >> >> * `pg_upgrade` now carries forward the old installation's `oldestXID` >> value, which can improve things from a performance standpoint by no >> longer forcing an anti-wrapar

Re: 2021-08-12 release announcement draft

2021-08-11 Thread Peter Geoghegan
On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 11:23 AM Jonathan S. Katz wrote: > How about: > > * `pg_upgrade` now carries forward the old installation's `oldestXID` > value, which can improve things from a performance standpoint by no > longer forcing an anti-wraparound `VACUUM`. I don't think that framing this as a

Re: 2021-08-12 release announcement draft

2021-08-11 Thread Jonathan S. Katz
On 8/11/21 1:35 PM, Peter Geoghegan wrote: > On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 9:32 AM Jonathan S. Katz wrote: >> Please ensure you have your feedback in no later than midnight today >> (Aug 11) AoE[1]. > > I think that the pg_upgrade item should say that we now avoid forcing > an anti-wraparound VACUUM on

Re: 2021-08-12 release announcement draft

2021-08-11 Thread Peter Geoghegan
On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 9:32 AM Jonathan S. Katz wrote: > Please ensure you have your feedback in no later than midnight today > (Aug 11) AoE[1]. I think that the pg_upgrade item should say that we now avoid forcing an anti-wraparound VACUUM on upgrade. This was never necessary. -- Peter Geoghe