Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-10-10 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 06:13:56PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 06:06:01PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 12:55:33PM -0700, Andres Freund wrote: > > > Several people argued for introducing it, you're the only one that was > > > against it. Adrien, A

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-10-10 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 06:06:01PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 12:55:33PM -0700, Andres Freund wrote: > > Several people argued for introducing it, you're the only one that was > > against it. Adrien, Amit Kapila, Peter Geoghegan, and I all said we > > think that kind of t

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-10-10 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 12:55:33PM -0700, Andres Freund wrote: > Hi, > > On 2018-10-08 21:28:02 -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 05:44:32PM +0200, Adrien NAYRAT wrote: > > > On 10/8/18 5:20 PM, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > >Uh, where are you looking? We don't rebuild the beta

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-10-10 Thread Andres Freund
Hi, On 2018-10-08 21:28:02 -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 05:44:32PM +0200, Adrien NAYRAT wrote: > > On 10/8/18 5:20 PM, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > >Uh, where are you looking? We don't rebuild the beta docs until the > > >next beta release, but you can see the changes in the

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-10-08 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 05:44:32PM +0200, Adrien NAYRAT wrote: > On 10/8/18 5:20 PM, Bruce Momjian wrote: > >Uh, where are you looking? We don't rebuild the beta docs until the > >next beta release, but you can see the changes in the developer docs: > > > > https://www.postgresql.org/docs/deve

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-10-08 Thread Adrien NAYRAT
On 10/8/18 5:20 PM, Bruce Momjian wrote: Uh, where are you looking? We don't rebuild the beta docs until the next beta release, but you can see the changes in the developer docs: https://www.postgresql.org/docs/devel/static/release-11.html I looked in doc/src/sgml/release-11.sgml And

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-10-08 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 12:05:03PM +0200, Adrien NAYRAT wrote: > On 9/20/18 8:47 AM, Adrien Nayrat wrote: > >On 8/25/18 11:24 PM, Peter Geoghegan wrote: > >>On Sat, Aug 25, 2018 at 2:18 PM, Bruce Momjian wrote: > I think that's less "our" logic and more yours, that has become > established

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-10-08 Thread Adrien NAYRAT
On 9/20/18 8:47 AM, Adrien Nayrat wrote: On 8/25/18 11:24 PM, Peter Geoghegan wrote: On Sat, Aug 25, 2018 at 2:18 PM, Bruce Momjian wrote: I think that's less "our" logic and more yours, that has become established because you've done most of the major release notes for a long time. I'm not tr

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-10-05 Thread Jonathan S. Katz
On 10/5/18 5:22 PM, Bruce Momjian wrote: > On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 03:28:41PM -0400, Jonathan Katz wrote: >> On 9/27/18 9:21 PM, Amit Langote wrote: >>> Yeah, "any other partition" is what the existing description uses too, so: >>> >>> Having a "default" partition for storing data that does not mat

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-10-05 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 03:28:41PM -0400, Jonathan Katz wrote: > On 9/27/18 9:21 PM, Amit Langote wrote: > > Yeah, "any other partition" is what the existing description uses too, so: > > > > Having a "default" partition for storing data that does not match any > > other partition > > Sorry for t

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-10-05 Thread Jonathan S. Katz
On 9/27/18 9:21 PM, Amit Langote wrote: > On 2018/09/27 23:24, Alvaro Herrera wrote: >> On 2018-Sep-27, Amit Langote wrote: >> >>> Sorry I couldn't reply sooner, but the following of your proposed text >>> needs to be updated a bit: >>> >>> + >>> + >>> + Having a "default" pa

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-09-29 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Sat, Sep 29, 2018 at 04:28:13PM +0900, Amit Langote wrote: > > The default partition can store rows that don't match any of the > > other defined partitions, and is searched accordingly. > > I was commenting on the Jonathan's patch upthread [1] whereby he > proposed to add a lin

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-09-29 Thread Amit Langote
On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 7:24 PM Bruce Momjian wrote: > On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 10:21:16AM +0900, Amit Langote wrote: > > On 2018/09/27 23:24, Alvaro Herrera wrote: > > > On 2018-Sep-27, Amit Langote wrote: > > > > > >> Sorry I couldn't reply sooner, but the following of your proposed text > > >> n

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-09-28 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 10:21:16AM +0900, Amit Langote wrote: > On 2018/09/27 23:24, Alvaro Herrera wrote: > > On 2018-Sep-27, Amit Langote wrote: > > > >> Sorry I couldn't reply sooner, but the following of your proposed text > >> needs to be updated a bit: > >> > >> + > >> + > >>

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-09-27 Thread Amit Langote
On 2018/09/27 23:24, Alvaro Herrera wrote: > On 2018-Sep-27, Amit Langote wrote: > >> Sorry I couldn't reply sooner, but the following of your proposed text >> needs to be updated a bit: >> >> + >> + >> + Having a "default" partition for storing data that does not match a >>

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-09-27 Thread Alvaro Herrera
On 2018-Sep-27, Amit Langote wrote: > Sorry I couldn't reply sooner, but the following of your proposed text > needs to be updated a bit: > > + > + > + Having a "default" partition for storing data that does not match a > + partition key > + > + > >

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-09-27 Thread Amit Langote
Hi, On 2018/09/17 1:07, Jonathan S. Katz wrote: > On 9/16/18 11:36 AM, Bruce Momjian wrote: >> On Sat, Sep 15, 2018 at 11:06:04AM -0400, Jonathan Katz wrote: >>> @@ -2414,12 +2408,8 @@ same commits as above >>> The option --create-slot creates >>> the named replication slot (--sl

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-09-19 Thread Adrien Nayrat
On 8/25/18 11:24 PM, Peter Geoghegan wrote: > On Sat, Aug 25, 2018 at 2:18 PM, Bruce Momjian wrote: >>> I think that's less "our" logic and more yours, that has become >>> established because you've done most of the major release notes for a >>> long time. I'm not trying to say that that's wrong o

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-09-16 Thread Jonathan S. Katz
On 9/16/18 11:36 AM, Bruce Momjian wrote: > On Sat, Sep 15, 2018 at 11:06:04AM -0400, Jonathan Katz wrote: >> @@ -2414,12 +2408,8 @@ same commits as above >> The option --create-slot creates >> the named replication slot (--slot) >> when the WAL streaming method >> -

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-09-16 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Sat, Sep 15, 2018 at 11:06:04AM -0400, Jonathan Katz wrote: > @@ -2414,12 +2408,8 @@ same commits as above > The option --create-slot creates > the named replication slot (--slot) > when the WAL streaming method > -(--wal-method=stream) is used. > - > -

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-09-16 Thread Jonathan S. Katz
On 9/16/18 11:14 AM, Bruce Momjian wrote: > On Sat, Sep 15, 2018 at 11:06:04AM -0400, Jonathan Katz wrote: >> >> >> - Partitioning by a hash key >> + Partitioning by a hash key (a.k.a. "hash partitioning") > > I question whether a.k.a (also known as) is familiar

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-09-16 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Sat, Sep 15, 2018 at 11:06:04AM -0400, Jonathan Katz wrote: > > > - Partitioning by a hash key > + Partitioning by a hash key (a.k.a. "hash partitioning") I question whether a.k.a (also known as) is familiar enough to our readers to appear in the releaes notes

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-09-15 Thread Jonathan S. Katz
Hi, On 9/12/18 1:34 PM, Michael Banck wrote: > Hi, > > On Fri, May 11, 2018 at 11:08:52AM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: >> I have committed the first draft of the Postgres 11 release notes. I >> will add more markup soon. You can view the most current version here: >> >> http://momjian.us/pg

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-09-12 Thread Michael Banck
Hi, On Fri, May 11, 2018 at 11:08:52AM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > I have committed the first draft of the Postgres 11 release notes. I > will add more markup soon. You can view the most current version here: > > http://momjian.us/pgsql_docs/release-11.html The first item of section '

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-08-26 Thread Amit Kapila
On Sun, Aug 26, 2018 at 12:17 AM Bruce Momjian wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 25, 2018 at 11:42:35AM -0700, Andres Freund wrote: > > > > > > On August 25, 2018 11:41:11 AM PDT, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > >On Sun, Aug 12, 2018 at 11:21:26AM +0200, Adrien Nayrat wrote: > > >> Hello, > > >> > > >> It seems th

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-08-25 Thread Peter Geoghegan
On Sat, Aug 25, 2018 at 2:18 PM, Bruce Momjian wrote: >> I think that's less "our" logic and more yours, that has become >> established because you've done most of the major release notes for a >> long time. I'm not trying to say that that's wrong or anything, just > > I don't do my work in a vacu

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-08-25 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Sat, Aug 25, 2018 at 12:17:17PM -0700, Andres Freund wrote: > Hi, > > On 2018-08-25 14:47:20 -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > Well, our normal logical is whether the average user would adjust their > > behavior based on this change, or whether it is user visible. I thought > > it was a contrive

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-08-25 Thread Andres Freund
Hi, On 2018-08-25 14:47:20 -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > Well, our normal logical is whether the average user would adjust their > behavior based on this change, or whether it is user visible. I thought > it was a contrived-enough query that this was not the case, but I would > be interested to h

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-08-25 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Sat, Aug 25, 2018 at 11:42:35AM -0700, Andres Freund wrote: > > > On August 25, 2018 11:41:11 AM PDT, Bruce Momjian wrote: > >On Sun, Aug 12, 2018 at 11:21:26AM +0200, Adrien Nayrat wrote: > >> Hello, > >> > >> It seems this feature is missing in releases notes ? > >> > >> commit 1f6d515a67

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-08-25 Thread Andres Freund
On August 25, 2018 11:41:11 AM PDT, Bruce Momjian wrote: >On Sun, Aug 12, 2018 at 11:21:26AM +0200, Adrien Nayrat wrote: >> Hello, >> >> It seems this feature is missing in releases notes ? >> >> commit 1f6d515a67ec98194c23a5db25660856c9aab944 >> Author: Robert Haas >> Date: Mon Aug 21 14:

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-08-25 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Sun, Aug 12, 2018 at 11:21:26AM +0200, Adrien Nayrat wrote: > Hello, > > It seems this feature is missing in releases notes ? > > commit 1f6d515a67ec98194c23a5db25660856c9aab944 > Author: Robert Haas > Date: Mon Aug 21 14:43:01 2017 -0400 > > Push limit through subqueries to underlying

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-08-12 Thread Masahiko Sawada
On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 7:10 PM, Alexander Korotkov wrote: > On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 8:08 AM Masahiko Sawada > wrote: >> >> I found that the release note says "Add pgtrgm function >> strict_word_similarity() to compute the similarity of whole words" but >> I think "pgtrgm" should be "pg_trgm". At

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-08-12 Thread Adrien Nayrat
Hello, It seems this feature is missing in releases notes ? commit 1f6d515a67ec98194c23a5db25660856c9aab944 Author: Robert Haas Date: Mon Aug 21 14:43:01 2017 -0400 Push limit through subqueries to underlying sort, where possible. Douglas Doole, reviewed by Ashutosh Bapat and by me.

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-08-10 Thread Alexander Korotkov
On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 8:08 AM Masahiko Sawada wrote: > I found that the release note says "Add pgtrgm function > strict_word_similarity() to compute the similarity of whole words" but > I think "pgtrgm" should be "pg_trgm". Attached patch fixes it. > Right. Pushed, thanks! -- Alexander K

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-08-09 Thread Masahiko Sawada
Hi, I found that the release note says "Add pgtrgm function strict_word_similarity() to compute the similarity of whole words" but I think "pgtrgm" should be "pg_trgm". Attached patch fixes it. Regards, -- Masahiko Sawada NIPPON TELEGRAPH AND TELEPHONE CORPORATION NTT Open Source Software Center

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-07-12 Thread Tom Lane
"Jonathan S. Katz" writes: > On Jun 30, 2018, at 5:52 PM, Tom Lane wrote: >> Mmm, yeah, I suppose it should say "all framing options" rather than >> implying that we've implemented every other window-related frammish >> there is in the spec. > +1. Attached patch that does exactly that. Pushed,

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-07-09 Thread Andres Freund
On 2018-07-09 16:52:11 +0200, David Fetter wrote: > On Mon, Jul 09, 2018 at 10:36:30AM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 8, 2018 at 10:28:15PM -0700, Andres Freund wrote: > > > On 2018-07-09 14:18:14 +0900, Tatsuro Yamada wrote: > > > > Hi Bruce, > > > > > > > > > I expect a torrent of

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-07-09 Thread Tatsuro Yamada
On 2018/07/09 23:52, David Fetter wrote: On Mon, Jul 09, 2018 at 10:36:30AM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: On Sun, Jul 8, 2018 at 10:28:15PM -0700, Andres Freund wrote: On 2018-07-09 14:18:14 +0900, Tatsuro Yamada wrote: Hi Bruce, I expect a torrent of feedback.;-) Could you add this fix to

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-07-09 Thread David Fetter
On Mon, Jul 09, 2018 at 10:36:30AM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > On Sun, Jul 8, 2018 at 10:28:15PM -0700, Andres Freund wrote: > > On 2018-07-09 14:18:14 +0900, Tatsuro Yamada wrote: > > > Hi Bruce, > > > > > > > I expect a torrent of feedback.;-) > > > > > > Could you add this fix to the releas

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-07-09 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Sun, Jul 8, 2018 at 10:28:15PM -0700, Andres Freund wrote: > On 2018-07-09 14:18:14 +0900, Tatsuro Yamada wrote: > > Hi Bruce, > > > > > I expect a torrent of feedback.;-) > > > > Could you add this fix to the release note because this change affects > > an extension developer using the hook

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-07-08 Thread Andres Freund
On 2018-07-09 14:18:14 +0900, Tatsuro Yamada wrote: > Hi Bruce, > > > I expect a torrent of feedback.;-) > > Could you add this fix to the release note because this change affects > an extension developer using the hook function. > It would be better to know the change by reading the release note

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-07-08 Thread Tatsuro Yamada
Hi Bruce, > I expect a torrent of feedback.;-) Could you add this fix to the release note because this change affects an extension developer using the hook function. It would be better to know the change by reading the release note, not compilation error. Add QueryEnvironment

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-07-01 Thread Jonathan S. Katz
> On Jun 30, 2018, at 5:52 PM, Tom Lane wrote: > > Yaroslav writes: >> I've noticed the following in v11 release notes: >> "Window functions now support all options shown in the SQL:2011 standard, >> including RANGE distance PRECEDING/FOLLOWING, GROUPS mode, and frame >> exclusion options" > >

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-06-30 Thread Tom Lane
Yaroslav writes: > I've noticed the following in v11 release notes: > "Window functions now support all options shown in the SQL:2011 standard, > including RANGE distance PRECEDING/FOLLOWING, GROUPS mode, and frame > exclusion options" > But, as far as I see, IGNORE NULLS option for lead, lag, et

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-06-30 Thread Yaroslav
Hello. I've noticed the following in v11 release notes: "Window functions now support all options shown in the SQL:2011 standard, including RANGE distance PRECEDING/FOLLOWING, GROUPS mode, and frame exclusion options" But, as far as I see, IGNORE NULLS option for lead, lag, etc. is still not supp

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-06-30 Thread Jonathan S. Katz
> On Jun 30, 2018, at 2:48 PM, Daniel Gustafsson wrote: > >> On 30 Jun 2018, at 20:11, Brad DeJong wrote: >> >> I suggest the following edits for the PostgreSQL beta 2 release announcement. >> I did not provide the edits as a patch because I can't find the source of >> /about/news/1867. > >

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-06-30 Thread Daniel Gustafsson
> On 30 Jun 2018, at 20:11, Brad DeJong wrote: > > I suggest the following edits for the PostgreSQL beta 2 release announcement. > I did not provide the edits as a patch because I can't find the source of > /about/news/1867. The news item is stored in the postgresql.org database, and not in the

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-06-30 Thread Brad DeJong
I suggest the following edits for the PostgreSQL beta 2 release announcement. I did not provide the edits as a patch because I can't find the source of /about/news/1867. - This release contains ... as well as bug fixes that were reported ... + This release contains ... as well as fixes for bugs th

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-06-21 Thread Alexander Korotkov
On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 1:40 PM Alexander Korotkov wrote: > On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 12:15 PM Alexander Korotkov > wrote: > > On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 3:57 PM Darafei "Komяpa" Praliaskouski > > wrote: > > >> > > >> > I'm not sure it is usefull in release notes since it is more about > > >> > API,

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-06-19 Thread Alexander Korotkov
On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 6:18 PM Daniel Gustafsson wrote: > > On 19 Jun 2018, at 12:40, Alexander Korotkov > > wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 12:15 PM Alexander Korotkov > > wrote: > >> On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 3:57 PM Darafei "Komяpa" Praliaskouski > >> wrote: > > > I'm not sur

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-06-19 Thread Daniel Gustafsson
> On 19 Jun 2018, at 12:40, Alexander Korotkov > wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 12:15 PM Alexander Korotkov > wrote: >> On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 3:57 PM Darafei "Komяpa" Praliaskouski >> wrote: > I'm not sure it is usefull in release notes since it is more about API, > and no

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-06-19 Thread Alexander Korotkov
On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 12:15 PM Alexander Korotkov wrote: > On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 3:57 PM Darafei "Komяpa" Praliaskouski > wrote: > >> > >> > I'm not sure it is usefull in release notes since it is more about API, > >> > and not > >> > user-facing change. Just in case. > >> > GiST opclasses n

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-06-19 Thread Alexander Korotkov
On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 3:57 PM Darafei "Komяpa" Praliaskouski wrote: >> >> > I'm not sure it is usefull in release notes since it is more about API, >> > and not >> > user-facing change. Just in case. >> > GiST opclasses now can omit compress and decompress functions. If compress >> > function i

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-06-16 Thread Komяpa
> > > I'm not sure it is usefull in release notes since it is more about API, > and not > > user-facing change. Just in case. > > GiST opclasses now can omit compress and decompress functions. If > compress > > function is omited, IndexOnlyScan is enabled for opclass without any > extra > > change.

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-06-09 Thread Justin Pryzby
On Sat, Jun 09, 2018 at 01:35:19PM -0700, David G. Johnston wrote: > On Fri, May 11, 2018 at 8:08 AM, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > I have committed the first draft of the Postgres 11 release notes. I > > will add more markup soon. You can view the most current version here: > > > > http:/

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-06-09 Thread Jonathan S. Katz
> On Jun 9, 2018, at 4:35 PM, David G. Johnston > wrote: > > On Fri, May 11, 2018 at 8:08 AM, Bruce Momjian > wrote: > I have committed the first draft of the Postgres 11 release notes. I > will add more markup soon. You can view the most current version here: > >

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-06-09 Thread David G. Johnston
On Fri, May 11, 2018 at 8:08 AM, Bruce Momjian wrote: > I have committed the first draft of the Postgres 11 release notes. I > will add more markup soon. You can view the most current version here: > > http://momjian.us/pgsql_docs/release-11.html ​Some thoughts:​ ​As a major ​item: "

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-05-23 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 11:31:08PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: > Bruce Momjian writes: > > On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 10:28:12AM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: > >> While we're all griping about omissions from the release notes ... > >> I think you should have documented that we fixed plpgsql to cope > >> (or cop

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-05-22 Thread Tom Lane
Bruce Momjian writes: > On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 10:28:12AM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: >> While we're all griping about omissions from the release notes ... >> I think you should have documented that we fixed plpgsql to cope >> (or cope better, at least) with intrasession changes in the rowtypes >> of

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-05-22 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 02:06:15PM +1200, David Rowley wrote: > On 23 May 2018 at 13:18, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 07:34:18PM +1200, David Rowley wrote: > >> I've been working a bit in this area over the past few weeks and with > >> PG11 I measured a single INSERT into a 10k

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-05-22 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 11:55:29AM +1000, Haribabu Kommi wrote: > Yes, security labels also gets dumped only with --create option. OK. > Can you update the author name as (Haribabu Kommi) to make it consistent > with other entries. Done. Applied patch attached. -- Bruce Momjian htt

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-05-22 Thread David Rowley
On 23 May 2018 at 13:18, Bruce Momjian wrote: > On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 07:34:18PM +1200, David Rowley wrote: >> I've been working a bit in this area over the past few weeks and with >> PG11 I measured a single INSERT into a 10k RANGE partitioned table at >> just 84 tps (!), while inserting the sa

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-05-22 Thread Haribabu Kommi
On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 11:34 AM, Bruce Momjian wrote: > On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 06:28:36PM +1000, Haribabu Kommi wrote: > > On Sat, May 12, 2018 at 1:08 AM, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > > I have committed the first draft of the Postgres 11 release notes. I > > will add more markup soon.

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-05-22 Thread Amit Langote
On 2018/05/23 10:36, Bruce Momjian wrote: > On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 10:28:41AM +0900, Amit Langote wrote: >>> Uh, we already have this in the release notes: >>> >>> Allow faster partition elimination during query processing (Amit >>> Langote, David Rowley, Dilip Kumar) >>> >>>

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-05-22 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 01:37:22PM +1200, Thomas Munro wrote: > On Sat, May 19, 2018 at 2:28 AM, Tom Lane wrote: > > While we're all griping about omissions from the release notes ... > > Hi Bruce, > > > Add support for ARMv8 hardware > CRC calculations (Yuqi Gu, Heikki L

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-05-22 Thread Thomas Munro
On Sat, May 19, 2018 at 2:28 AM, Tom Lane wrote: > While we're all griping about omissions from the release notes ... Hi Bruce, Add support for ARMv8 hardware CRC calculations (Yuqi Gu, Heikki Linnakangas) Could I please ask for a third author credit for this one

Re: [Sender Address Forgery]Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-05-22 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 10:28:41AM +0900, Amit Langote wrote: > > Uh, we already have this in the release notes: > > > > Allow faster partition elimination during query processing (Amit > > Langote, David Rowley, Dilip Kumar) > > > > This speeds access to partitioned table

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-05-22 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 06:28:36PM +1000, Haribabu Kommi wrote: > On Sat, May 12, 2018 at 1:08 AM, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > I have committed the first draft of the Postgres 11 release notes.  I > will add more markup soon.  You can view the most current version here: > >         http

Re: [Sender Address Forgery]Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-05-22 Thread Amit Langote
On 2018/05/23 10:16, Bruce Momjian wrote: > On Sat, May 19, 2018 at 12:58:04AM +0900, Amit Langote wrote: >> Hi Bruce. >> >> On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 12:46 PM, Amit Langote >> wrote: >>> On 2018/05/15 5:30, Bruce Momjian wrote: I like it, done. >>> >>> Thank you. >> >> I wonder what you think

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-05-22 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 07:34:18PM +1200, David Rowley wrote: > On 19 May 2018 at 03:58, Amit Langote wrote: > > I wonder what you think about including this little performance item: > > > > https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/e1eotsq-0005v0...@gemulon.postgresql.org > > > > especially consideri

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-05-22 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Sat, May 19, 2018 at 12:58:04AM +0900, Amit Langote wrote: > Hi Bruce. > > On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 12:46 PM, Amit Langote > wrote: > > On 2018/05/15 5:30, Bruce Momjian wrote: > >> I like it, done. > > > > Thank you. > > I wonder what you think about including this little performance item: >

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-05-22 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 10:28:12AM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: > While we're all griping about omissions from the release notes ... > I think you should have documented that we fixed plpgsql to cope > (or cope better, at least) with intrasession changes in the rowtypes > of composite-type variables. Se

RE: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-05-21 Thread Ideriha, Takeshi
>-Original Message- >From: Bruce Momjian [mailto:br...@momjian.us] >I have committed the first draft of the Postgres 11 release notes. I will add >more >markup soon. You can view the most current version here: Hi, there is a small typo. I think "These function" should be "These functio

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-05-21 Thread Jonathan S. Katz
> On May 21, 2018, at 12:38 PM, Tom Lane wrote: > > "Jonathan S. Katz" writes: >> Per feedback from many asynchronous threads, attached is the proposed >> patch for the list of major features. I also expect a torrent of feedback. I >> will have a corresponding press release for Beta 1 in the ve

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-05-21 Thread Tom Lane
"Jonathan S. Katz" writes: > Per feedback from many asynchronous threads, attached is the proposed > patch for the list of major features. I also expect a torrent of feedback. I > will have a corresponding press release for Beta 1 in the very near future. > This being my first doc patch proposal,

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-05-21 Thread Amit Langote
On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 4:34 PM, David Rowley wrote: > On 19 May 2018 at 03:58, Amit Langote wrote: >> I wonder what you think about including this little performance item: >> >> https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/e1eotsq-0005v0...@gemulon.postgresql.org >> >> especially considering the part o

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-05-21 Thread Haribabu Kommi
On Sat, May 12, 2018 at 1:08 AM, Bruce Momjian wrote: > I have committed the first draft of the Postgres 11 release notes. I > will add more markup soon. You can view the most current version here: > > http://momjian.us/pgsql_docs/release-11.html > Thanks for preparing the release note

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-05-21 Thread David Rowley
On 19 May 2018 at 03:58, Amit Langote wrote: > I wonder what you think about including this little performance item: > > https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/e1eotsq-0005v0...@gemulon.postgresql.org > > especially considering the part of the commit message which states > > ...Still, testing shows

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-05-18 Thread Amit Langote
Hi Bruce. On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 12:46 PM, Amit Langote wrote: > On 2018/05/15 5:30, Bruce Momjian wrote: >> I like it, done. > > Thank you. I wonder what you think about including this little performance item: https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/e1eotsq-0005v0...@gemulon.postgresql.org esp

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-05-18 Thread Jonathan S. Katz
> On May 11, 2018, at 11:08 AM, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > I have committed the first draft of the Postgres 11 release notes. I > will add more markup soon. You can view the most current version here: > > http://momjian.us/pgsql_docs/release-11.html > > I expect a torrent of feedback. ;

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-05-18 Thread Tom Lane
While we're all griping about omissions from the release notes ... I think you should have documented that we fixed plpgsql to cope (or cope better, at least) with intrasession changes in the rowtypes of composite-type variables. See bug #15203 for the latest in a long line of user complaints abou

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-05-18 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 10:56:25AM +0500, Andrey Borodin wrote: > H, Bruce! > > > 11 мая 2018 г., в 20:08, Bruce Momjian написал(а): > > I expect a torrent of feedback. ;-) > > > I'm not sure it is usefull in release notes since it is more about API, and > not > user-facing change.

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-05-18 Thread Amit Kapila
On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 2:11 AM, Bruce Momjian wrote: > On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 05:34:54PM +0530, Dilip Kumar wrote: >> >> On Fri, May 11, 2018 at 8:38 PM, Bruce Momjian wrote: >> >> I have committed the first draft of the Postgres 11 release notes. I >> will add more markup soon. You c

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-05-17 Thread Andrey Borodin
H, Bruce! > 11 мая 2018 г., в 20:08, Bruce Momjian написал(а): > > I expect a torrent of feedback. ;-) I'm not sure it is usefull in release notes since it is more about API, and not user-facing change. Just in case. GiST opclasses now can omit compress and decompress functions. If compress

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-05-17 Thread Michael Paquier
On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 02:23:00PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 10:35:53PM +0900, Michael Paquier wrote: > > Hi Bruce, > > > > Here is some bonus feedback. > > > > On Fri, May 11, 2018 at 11:08:52AM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > I expect a torrent of feedback. ;-) >

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-05-17 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 10:35:53PM +0900, Michael Paquier wrote: > Hi Bruce, > > Here is some bonus feedback. > > On Fri, May 11, 2018 at 11:08:52AM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > I expect a torrent of feedback. ;-) > > I have just noticed that this entry does not have the correct author > (gu

Re: NaNs in numeric_power (was Re: Postgres 11 release notes)

2018-05-17 Thread Tom Lane
Huong Dangminh writes: > Thank you. The patch looks fine to me. > Also, I have done the "make check" in Windows and Linux environment with no > problem. Pushed, thanks for reviewing/testing. regards, tom lane

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-05-17 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 09:48:54PM +0900, Michael Paquier wrote: > On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 09:09:22PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 09:56:49AM +0900, Michael Paquier wrote: > >> On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 08:20:49PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > >>> SCRAM-with-binding is the

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-05-17 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 09:09:22PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > FYI, I think the server could also require channel binding for SCRAM. We > > > already have scram-sha-256 in pg_hba.conf, and I think > > > scram-sha-256-plus would be reasonable. > > > > Noted as well. There is of course the qu

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-05-17 Thread Magnus Hagander
On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 2:56 AM, Michael Paquier wrote: > On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 08:20:49PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > SCRAM-with-binding is the first password method that attempts to avoid > > man-in-the-middle attacks, and therefore is much less likely to be able > > to trust what the end

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-05-17 Thread Michael Paquier
Hi Bruce, Here is some bonus feedback. On Fri, May 11, 2018 at 11:08:52AM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > I expect a torrent of feedback. ;-) I have just noticed that this entry does not have the correct author (guess who?): Add libpq option to support channel binding when using SCRAM

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-05-17 Thread Michael Paquier
On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 09:09:22PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 09:56:49AM +0900, Michael Paquier wrote: >> On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 08:20:49PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: >>> SCRAM-with-binding is the first password method that attempts to avoid >>> man-in-the-middle attack

RE: NaNs in numeric_power (was Re: Postgres 11 release notes)

2018-05-17 Thread Huong Dangminh
Hi, > From: Tom Lane [mailto:t...@sss.pgh.pa.us] > David Rowley writes: > > On 16 May 2018 at 02:01, Tom Lane wrote: > >> I'm not particularly fussed about getting credit for that. However, > >> looking again at how that patch series turned out --- ie, that we > >> ensured POSIX behavior for N

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-05-16 Thread Amit Kapila
On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 5:54 AM, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > Oh, sorry, changed to: > > Allow single-evaluation queries, e.g. WHERE > clause aggregate queries, and functions in the target list to be > parallelized (Amit Kapila, Robert Haas) > LGTM. Thanks. -- With Regards

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-05-16 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 09:56:49AM +0900, Michael Paquier wrote: > On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 08:20:49PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > SCRAM-with-binding is the first password method that attempts to avoid > > man-in-the-middle attacks, and therefore is much less likely to be able > > to trust what

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-05-16 Thread Michael Paquier
On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 08:20:49PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > SCRAM-with-binding is the first password method that attempts to avoid > man-in-the-middle attacks, and therefore is much less likely to be able > to trust what the endpoints supports. I think it is really the > channel_binding_mode

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-05-16 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 10:08:18AM -0400, Alvaro Herrera wrote: > On 2018-May-15, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 09:01:35AM +0900, Tatsuo Ishii wrote: > > > There's a small typo. > > > > > > > Add support for with huge(large) pages on Windows (Takayuki Tsunakawa, > > > > Thom

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-05-16 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 01:50:04PM +0300, Heikki Linnakangas wrote: > >* Allow bytes to be specified for server variable sizes (Beena Emerson) > > > >The specification is "B". > > I had to dig the commit in the git history to figure out what this is. I'd > suggest rewording this: > > * Allow serv

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-05-16 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 09:55:05AM +0530, Amit Kapila wrote: > On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 12:17 AM, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 08:45:07AM +0530, Amit Kapila wrote: > >> No, it is not like that. We divide the scan among workers and each > >> worker should perform projection of t

Re: Postgres 11 release notes

2018-05-16 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 08:59:23PM +0900, Michael Paquier wrote: > On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 01:09:07PM +0300, Heikki Linnakangas wrote: > > I have to agree with Bruce, that it's pretty useless to implement channel > > binding, if there is no way to require it in libpq. IMHO that must be > > fixed. >

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