p. maybe that helps.
Maybe you could reduce the statistics targets for that table.
I think we've heard that the analyze functions for PostGIS data types are
memory hogs, too --- maybe it's worth inquiring about that on the postgis
mailing lists.
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wambacher writes:
> Tom Lane-2 wrote
>> Maybe you could reduce the statistics targets for that table.
> don't understand what you mean. do you mean how often that table is
> autovacuumed? at the moment about once a day or once in two days, i think.
No, I mean the amount
at into pg_dumpall?
I feel no compulsion whatsoever to preserve any user-initiated changes
in template0 across an upgrade.
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Stephen Frost writes:
> * Tom Lane (t...@sss.pgh.pa.us) wrote:
>> Perhaps pg_upgrade should deliberately ignore template0 regardless of
>> datallowconn? And/or we should hard-wire that into pg_dumpall?
> My thinking would be that pg_dumpall should be hard-wired for template0
nup of known-dead rows. But we were just
guessing at that over here.)
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ndard language for you. If not, maybe you don't want that job.
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quoting, it would get some cases wrong,
potentially creating security holes.
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be able to help much about that.
If you'd like additional advice, I'd recommend reviewing
https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Slow_Query_Questions
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x27;t
scan all the partitions.
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output. You
can do
format('... AS %I ...', ..., column_label, ...)
and be confident that the label will be exactly what you've got in
column_label. This proposed change would break that for labels that
happen to already have double-quotes --- but who are we to say that
SQL code in an SCM repo, somewhere
outside the database. Postgres itself saves views as parse trees, so
there's no way it will ever remember whitespace or comments.
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e that both
plans we've been shown are going to produce output sorted by actor.id.
Maybe that's happenstance, or maybe not.
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nontrivial effort to change it --- for example, there are several
early-exit cases that return the original array unmodified, and that would
be wrong if we were to adopt some other definition such as "force the
lower bound to 1".
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> result of xmlagg is not valid xml.
Really? Either that's a bug, or it's declared wrong.
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ontain a regular DML
command. I'm pretty sure there is a hack in there that allows parameters
to be transmitted down through PREPARE or D.C. ...
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expectable that the data distribution stats would be a bit different on
the two systems, but large differences that persist across multiple
ANALYZE attempts are unlikely. (Although ... you do have the
same default_statistics_target on both systems, no? Table-specific
statistics targets could
storage that's local to the backend running CREATE INDEX, and isn't
accessible to other processes at all.
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data is, what PG version you're using, etc.
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27;re you gonna return when there were no input rows? You won't be
able to distinguish "no input rows" from "first input row had a NULL".
Maybe you should rethink whatever activity you were wanting it for.
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n int, in 2038), so you
really don't want to be using it.
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free (6 chunks); 32 used
> 2015-04-01 14:23:27 EDT ERROR: out of memory
> 2015-04-01 14:23:27 EDT DETAIL: Failed on request of size 80.
> 2015-04-01 14:23:27 EDT STATEMENT: analyze verbose;
We need to see all of that memory map, not just the last six lines of it.
new.*
or some variant of that.
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f what you've said here, though, I can
only suggest that you're looking for the problem in the wrong place.
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Looks to me like a bug (ie, the code seems to think this is a can't-happen
case). Don't suppose you could supply sample data that triggers this?
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for "variant" is going to be a loaded gun just waiting to shoot your foot
off, if you make all those casts implicit.
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Jim Nasby writes:
> On 4/7/15 4:17 PM, Tom Lane wrote:
>> I suspect that that's only the tip of the iceberg. Remember the mess
>> we had with implicit casts to text? And those only existed for a dozen
>> or so types, not for everything. Every function or operator you
Jim Nasby writes:
> On 4/7/15 4:35 PM, Tom Lane wrote:
>> Just out of curiosity, what's the point of this type at all, compared
>> to "anyelement" and friends?
> The two big differences are that you can store a variant in a table
> (with reasonable protect
t to something like DropBox and posting the public link here.
So far I've been unable to reproduce the failure from Chris' data :-(
Don't know why not.
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re commonly filled from execution of
previous commands.
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amounts of memory as a
single chunk).
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knowledge about cross-column correlations. The actual details of the plan
(ie, that the pkey index can be used) are determined much later.
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column. That would make the FK is-it-ok-to-delete checks very slow.
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ime,
implying more buffer-access overhead, tuple visibility checking, etc.
A closer comparison might be to a nestloop that has a Materialize node
above its inner relation.
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not as simple as it seems at first glance, and that it would be difficult
to satisfy all use-cases. Try searching the archives for previous threads.
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Bruce Momjian writes:
> Is there a reason the following patch wasn't applied?
I don't think anybody ever did the legwork to verify it was a good idea.
In particular, it'd be good to check if sending a tabstat message for each
table adds noticeable overhead.
Bruce Momjian writes:
> On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 06:10:26PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
>> Bruce Momjian writes:
>>> Is there a reason the following patch wasn't applied?
>> I don't think anybody ever did the legwork to verify it was a good idea.
>> In partic
command
> --- yeah, confusing, so no, the pl/psql ability is not deprecated.
Part of the argument for deprecating the SQL-level SELECT INTO is
exactly that it's confusingly spelled the same as plpgsql's SELECT INTO,
but it means something totally different.
regards
guration if you
recreate the database using C locale, but personally I wouldn't risk it.
Masters and slaves in a WAL-shipping replication configuration should be
on substantially identical platforms, else you're just asking for trouble.
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do something
that is also in Oracle or DB2 or one of the other big boys, then we can
probably rely on the assumption that they'll block anything really
incompatible from becoming standardized ;-).
OTOH, if the actual meaning of "a lot" is "MySQL", I'd be pretty worried
r int8). And it'd likely behoove you to check how Microsoft
answers those questions, if you want to point to SQL Server as what's
going to keep you out of standards-compatibility problems. (IOW,
if 0x ever did get standardized, the text might well match what
SQL Server does.)
Bill Moran writes:
> Tom Lane wrote:
>> Other questions you'd have to think about: what is the data type of
>> 0x; what do you do with 0x (too big
>> even for int8). And it'd likely behoove you to check how Microsoft
>> an
a bit out of date,
or at least oversimplified.
One possible theory is that you had an "include" directive in
the config file in /etc, causing it to try to read the other one?
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the bit types under the bus and replaced them with "binary strings".
I wonder how painful it would be to update that stuff to be compatible
with more recent versions of the standard. Or whether anyone really
cares --- people doing this in PG seem to be happy enough with bytea
irably
for WHERE conditions on the enum column; you'd need to test.)
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Adrian Klaver writes:
> On 05/23/2015 08:06 AM, Tom Lane wrote:
>> I can't explain that claim, but for me, -c config_file=something
>> seems to work as you'd expect, and a look at the server source
>> code confirms that it should honor that (cf SelectConfigFiles()
ses
though. Also, I thought the fsync-everything code would only run if
the server had been shut down uncleanly. Which maybe it was, but that
bit of info wasn't provided either.
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abling SELinux makes the problem go away then
that's it. (I do *not* recommend that as a permanent solution, of course.
You'll want to find some finer-grained change to the security policy.
Don't remember enough about SELinux to know what the most likely bet is.)
better design in principle, because the necessary maintenance
can be done in background processes rather than making clients wait
for transactions to finish. In practice, it's still pretty annoying,
just in different ways than Oracle's UNDO.
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> and everything worked fine. The only difference is that these are
> streaming-replicated standby servers. They also had been restarted without
> explicitly terminating Postgres.
Hm. I wonder why we aren't fsync'ing on crash
ABLE looks --- but in a concurrent-transactions
situation, neither CREATE TABLE will see the other's table as already
existing. In race conditions like this, it's the unique index on the
catalog that is the duplicate-preventer of last resort, and it's going
to throw this error.
n the current setting of TimeZone.
So the planner will refuse to make any deductions at all with them.
You'd be much better off using child-table constraints like
"timestamp" >= '2015-01-01' AND "timestamp" < '2015-01-08'
because the p
"=?utf-8?b?RG91ZyBHb3JsZXk=?=" writes:
> On Wed, 27 May 2015 18:21:58 -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> You'd be much better off using child-table constraints like
> "timestamp" >= '2015-01-01' AND "timestamp" < '2015-01-08
;t cost anything much to scan. If it's significant
relative to the child table access time then you probably didn't
need partitioning in the first place.
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f magnitude either way, but it's just not worth the
extra complexity for data volumes very much less than that.
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ercising either of those
win scenarios, and all you're measuring is the overhead of partitioning,
which as I said is substantial.
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width=24) (actual
time=0.008..0.811 rows=1228 loops=1)
-> Seq Scan on c (cost=0.00..16370.00 rows=100 width=24)
(actual time=0.007..0.310 rows=1228 loops=1)
Planning time: 0.796 ms
Execution time: 1.390 ms
(15 rows)
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all the indexes on a table to be used like
that, though.
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really be able to prevent with this approach.
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get rid of the database's public schema
and/or restrict who has CREATE permissions on it. But I can't see us
shipping a default configuration in which only superusers can create
tables. That would just encourage people to operate as superusers, which
overall would be much less secure.
Getting rid of the useless join to pg_stat_all_tables would probably help;
there's a lot of computation in that view.
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nother one because of
the fresh UPDATE.
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correct.
> What else should I look for to try to determine the cause of this error?
Postmaster's log might offer some insight, especially if you turn on
log_connections.
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Robert Haas writes:
> On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 12:00 PM, Andres Freund wrote:
>> On 2015-06-05 11:43:45 -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
>>> So where are we on this? Are we ready to schedule a new set of
>>> back-branch releases? If not, what issues remain to be looked at?
>
ntially throw off offsets for other values?
Yes. This *will* break your table, spectacularly. The other person who
was opining that it would work has no understanding of the actual storage
layout.
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re saying is that you don't trust the already-committed patch
very much, then maybe we'd better hold off another couple weeks for more
review and testing.
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u can omit FROM. If you suppose that that's the underlying model
then the result of "select count(*)" is completely natural.
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an't all forcibly win.
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your real problem is you have a broken gcc installation. Basic
tools like that should not need a custom LD_LIBRARY_PATH to work.
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n there's a USING it needs to be worded
more like
ERROR: result of USING clause cannot be cast automatically to type uuid[]
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as to where "localtime"
is coming from:
select * from pg_settings where name = 'TimeZone';
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be in core.
(Even if there were a credible argument for putting ltree in core, I doubt
it would win out over backwards-compatibility concerns. We've found in
the past that moving things into core is not exactly transparent.)
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rialization before storing the data).
TBH, that seems like a pretty silly decision. It guarantees that you
cannot do any useful manipulations of the array on the database side.
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y, because it usually
doesn't make enough of a difference to matter. Currently we don't
even bother to distinguish say ">" from ">=" for estimation purposes,
though certainly we would need to in order to deal with zero-width ranges
with any great amount of precisi
Yaroslav writes:
> Tom Lane-2 wrote
>> PG doesn't try to estimate inequalities exactly, because it usually
>> doesn't make enough of a difference to matter. Currently we don't
>> even bother to distinguish say ">" from ">=" for esti
an PG 8.4.9.
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e and dead)? I would guess it's live only but that is a
>guess
Hm. I'm pretty sure the planner takes it as counting live tuples only,
but it looks like VACUUM thinks it includes recently-dead-but-not-yet-
removable tuples. We might need to do some adjustment there.
#x27;s later examples, the best way is with
LATERAL:
select f.*, 'baz' as baz from foobartable, lateral myfunc(foo, bar) as f;
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uld probably get the behavior you want if you make all the triggers
DEFERRED so that they all fire at end-of-transaction, rather than at end
of the statement that queued them.
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Douglas Stetner writes:
> On 18 Jun 2015, at 02:06 , Tom Lane wrote:
>> Douglas Stetner writes:
>>> Looking for confirmation there is an issue with pg_dump failing after
>>> upgrade to openssl-1.0.1e-30.el6_6.11.x86_64 on redhat linux.
>> Quick thought --- did
e've not heard similar reports elsewhere.
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#x27;t just use "RETURN expression"
if this is all that will be in the function.
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to text, much
less do any network I/O.
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That link doesn't work for me :-(
I'm going to file this as a bug with Red Hat. In the meantime it looks
like we can suggest ssl_renegotiation_limit = 0 as a temporary workaround.
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> I'm going to file this as a bug with Red Hat. In the meantime it looks
> like we can suggest ssl_renegotiation_limit = 0 as a temporary workaround.
Done at
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1234487
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cks for existance of the
> ids in the foreign table, and then put a CHECK constraint on using that
> function, but I thought I'd as first if there was a better way.
What's going to happen when the foreign server decides to delete some rows
from its table?
regards,
seems this same update has
also broken sendmail, mysql, and probably other services. Not for the
same reason, but still ...
Red Hat fell down badly on QA'ing this.
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sl library on the same host, of course.
Red Hat have confirmed that this was caused by a faulty openssl security
patch in RHEL6 and RHEL7. They apparently have a fix already, which
I'd expect will ship in a day or two. Keep an eye on the bugzilla entry
I posted upthread for status.
ails. The
precise number of previous renegotiations does not matter.
If the above is reproducible for you, there may be more than one bug :-(
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fault SSL settings? Because I can't reproduce
> the failure you show.
Oh, scratch that: I do reproduce that in PG <= 9.3, just not in 9.4 or
HEAD. Apparently our renegotiation rewrite in 9.4 affects this.
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s did not change before the reload. It is just
> overruled in an included configuration file.
This is fixed in 9.4 and up. Since it's just cosmetic, we did not
back-patch the change.
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so
forth. I'd be a bit worried about the performance implications of
throwing such large strings around, anyway.
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writes:
> Is there any correct place for feature requests?
Starting a thread here is a reasonable way.
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f tds_fdw. It's
mostly on the head of each individual FDW how smart plans for it will be.
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Bruce, doesn't that doc need improvement?
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using results.
To make this noticeably better, we'd probably have to insist that
INTO come at the end of the SELECT list, which would break lots and
lots of existing client code ... so I'm not holding my breath.
Moral of the story: being user-friendly by accepting sloppy syntax
is not an
"David G. Johnston" writes:
> On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 4:27 PM, Tom Lane wrote:
>> ... So what you wrote here is equivalent to
>>
>> SELECT MIN(CAL_DATE),MAX(CAL_DATE) ::date, last_weekend::date INTO
>> first_weekend FROM sys.calendar ...
> â
vailable for other "real"
> databases.
> Is this feature or something similar planned?
No. Neither of them make any sense per-database.
regards, tom lane
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