Jernigan, Kevin wrote:
>On 3/24/16, 3:09 PM, "Albe Laurenz" wrote:
>>> Disk is only a single point of failure in RAC if you configure
>>> non-redundant storage.
>>> In general, Oracle recommends triple mirroring to protect against disk
>>> failures,
>>> as they have had many experiences over the
Jernigan, Kevin wrote:
On 3/25/16, 4:37 AM, "pgsql-general-ow...@postgresql.org on behalf of Mark Morgan
Lloyd" wrote:
Just because a corporate has a hundred sites cooperating for inventory
management doesn't mean that the canteen menus have to be stored on
Oracle RAC :-)
Right, but ofte
On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 4:15 PM, Jernigan, Kevin wrote:
> On 3/25/16, 4:37 AM, "pgsql-general-ow...@postgresql.org on behalf of Mark
> Morgan Lloyd" markmll.pgsql-gene...@telemetry.co.uk> wrote:
>> Just because a corporate has a hundred sites cooperating for inventory
>> management doesn't mean
On 3/25/16, 4:37 AM, "pgsql-general-ow...@postgresql.org on behalf of Mark
Morgan Lloyd" wrote:
>Jernigan, Kevin wrote:
>> On 3/22/16, 8:07 AM, "Bruce Momjian" wrote:
>
>>>
>>> HA Scaling Upgrade Add/Remove
>>>Oracle RAC 50% 50%easyeasy
>>>
Jernigan, Kevin wrote:
On 3/22/16, 8:07 AM, "Bruce Momjian" wrote:
HA Scaling Upgrade Add/Remove
Oracle RAC 50% 50%easyeasy
Streaming Rep. 100% 25%* hardeasy
Sharding 0%100%hardhard
On 3/22/16, 8:07 AM, "Bruce Momjian" wrote:
>On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 04:46:51PM +, Jernigan, Kevin wrote:
>> Disk is only a single point of failure in RAC if you configure
>> non-redundant storage. In general, Oracle recommends triple mirroring
>> to protect against disk failures, as they h
On 3/24/16, 3:09 PM, "Albe Laurenz" wrote:
>Jernigan, Kevin wrote:
>> Disk is only a single point of failure in RAC if you configure non-redundant
>> storage.
>> In general, Oracle recommends triple mirroring to protect against disk
>> failures,
>> as they have had many experiences over the ye
Jernigan, Kevin wrote:
> Disk is only a single point of failure in RAC if you configure non-redundant
> storage.
> In general, Oracle recommends triple mirroring to protect against disk
> failures,
> as they have had many experiences over the years where customers with
> mirrored disks
> would s
On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 10:16:22AM -0600, Scott Marlowe wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 9:15 AM, Thomas Kellerer wrote:
> > Bruce Momjian schrieb am 22.03.2016 um 16:07:
> >>
> >> However, I do think database upgrades are easier with Oracle RAC
> >
> > I think you can do a rolling upgrade with a
On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 9:15 AM, Thomas Kellerer wrote:
> Bruce Momjian schrieb am 22.03.2016 um 16:07:
>>
>> However, I do think database upgrades are easier with Oracle RAC
>
> I think you can do a rolling upgrade with a standby, but I'm not entirely
> sure.
I find Slony good for upgrading ver
Bruce Momjian schrieb am 22.03.2016 um 16:07:
> For me, streaming replication fully solves the high reliability problem
> and sharding fully solves the scaling problem. Of course, if you need
> both, you have to deploy both, which gives you 100% of two solutions,
> rather than Oracle RAC which giv
On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 04:46:51PM +, Jernigan, Kevin wrote:
> Disk is only a single point of failure in RAC if you configure
> non-redundant storage. In general, Oracle recommends triple mirroring
> to protect against disk failures, as they have had many experiences
> over the years where cust
On 3/21/16, 9:10 AM, "pgsql-general-ow...@postgresql.org on behalf of Rakesh
Kumar" wrote:
>On 03/21/2016 10:57 AM, Thomas Kellerer wrote:
>
>> So - at least as far as I can tell - it's usually only used where
>> high-availability is really important, e.g. where zero-downtime is required.
>> I
On 03/21/2016 10:57 AM, Thomas Kellerer wrote:
So - at least as far as I can tell - it's usually only used where
high-availability is really important, e.g. where zero-downtime is required.
If you can live with a short downtime, a hot standby is much cheaper and
probably not that much slower.
On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 7:44 AM, Mark Morgan Lloyd
wrote:
> If anybody puts together a "just the facts" document after Oracle's attack
> on PostgreSQL in Russia, please make sure it's drawn to the attention of
> this mailing list for the benefit of those who aren't in -advocacy.
>
> I was discussi
Mark Morgan Lloyd schrieb am 21.03.2016 um 14:44:
> I was discussing this sort of thing elsewhere in the context of MS's
> apparent challenge to Oracle and IBM, and the dominant feeling
> appeared to be that actual use of things like Oracle RAC was
> vanishingly uncommon. Which surprised me, and wh
On 29/11/03, Randal L. Schwartz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Well, since I need 2.5 ideas per month for the three columns I'm still
> writing, I'm certainly in a position to write nice things about PG,
> although I always have to work it in from a Perl slant.
>
> Actually, I'm sure that any of the
Chris Travers wrote:
Here is a paper I have written for the purposes of providing some
additional educational material for the MySQL crowd.
Here's my contribution:
Why I choose PostgreSQL (PostgreSQL in 21 Seconds)
I choose referential integrity, meaning my lookups always work.
I choose stor
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> Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL Advocacy, Thoughts and CommentsRegarding the
> learning curve issue, maybe people can recomme
Note: I am a php developer and I love it, but...
>In dealing with web applications and frontends to database or
>even just a dynamic web site PHP has every bit the power and ability that
>Java does and the development time is way down.
Uh, how about threads. I know that you don't need them much
aturday, November 29, 2003 10:01 AM
Subject: Re: Triggers, Stored Procedures, PHP. was: Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL
Advocacy, Thoughts and Comments
> "Rod K" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Paul Thomas wrote:
> >> Much of the populatity of MySQL seems to stem from PHPs
On 29/11/2003 16:24 Jason Tesser wrote:
[snip]
A programmer that doesn't document stuff needs to find a new job :-)
Agreed. So you're replaced him and inherited a documentation-free
application. How many favours has he done you by squirrelling away section
of business logic in the database?
This
Title: Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL Advocacy, Thoughts and Comments
Comments within:
Chris Travers wrote:
Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Wrote:
Now many
consultant/developer/sys-admins like myself are going to client site on
a contract (this is especially true in the UK, I can'
Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Wrote:
> Now many
> consultant/developer/sys-admins like myself are going to client site on
> a contract (this is especially true in the UK, I can't speak for
> anywhere else) and finding complex stocktrading systems, inventory
> systems, CRM systems, and others, all writt
From: "Paul Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Stored procedures can be a 2-edged sword. They can lead to business logic
> being scattered between the persistence layer and the business layer.
> Thats not good for maintaining the application 3 years down the line.
> Triggers can also cause maintenance
Paul Thomas wrote:
>
>
>
> On 28/11/2003 17:10 Jason Tesser wrote:
> > [snip]
> >
> > MySQL cannot even handle
> > sub-queries yet. I also use Python for standalone interfaces to
> the data.
> >
> > Why should I not be able to use the same views and triggers etc
> in there
> > that I use for my
On 28/11/2003 17:10 Jason Tesser wrote:
[snip]
I completely disagree. I do a lot of programming with PHP and the
features
of Postgres come in handy. Let me give you an example of just some
basic things. Triggers! Why should I have to write insert and update
triggers in the logic (PHP) if I can
Further to this post, what might actually work is to convince O' Reilly
(since they have PostgreSQL book/s) to do some articles like they have
for PG, but making full use of the PG database. For instance, building
a simple data-warehouse using PG. Articles that show off an OSS
product/project
HI All,
I'm glad that this thread prompted some thoughtful response. I think
one of my main points I was trying to make, Jason hit the nail on the
head. The article to which I was referring uses a great example which I
have experienced many times before, but in order to grasp this, PHP et
a
On Sat, 2003-11-29 at 04:37, cnliou wrote:
> "Jason Tesser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > MySQL cannot even handle sub-queries yet.
>
> Ohh! Really?
> Allow me to pay my highest respect to the genius mySQL
> programmers!
> I completely have no clue on how to construct any single
> tiny database on
"Jason Tesser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I completely disagree. I do a lot of programming with PHP and the
features
> of Postgres come in handy. Let me give you an example of just some
> basic things. Triggers! Why should I have to write insert and update
> triggers in the logic (PHP) if I c
"Jason Tesser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> MySQL cannot even handle sub-queries yet.
Ohh! Really?
Allow me to pay my highest respect to the genius mySQL
programmers!
I completely have no clue on how to construct any single
tiny database on a DBMS having no sub-query capability.
Being too dumb, I sol
hi,
> Maybe there's not such a need for the advanced features of PostgreSQL
> amongst PHP programmers as you seem to believe. Most of the PHP stuff I've
> seen is read-only content display stuff and that doesn't really require a
> top-notch RDBMS; a more limited database should also be up to
On 27/11/2003 09:19 Tony wrote:
Hi All,
I've just been reading an article in PHP Architect magazine
(http://www.phparch.com) which is the cover story for October called
"Migrating from MySQL to PostgreSQL". I must say that this is a highly
compelling article, especially for me, and is aimed a
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