Re: [GENERAL] Scalability Design Questions

2007-09-14 Thread Markus Schiltknecht
Hi, novnov wrote: OK, this has been very informative and I'd like to thank the three of you. Asynchronous replication to readonly slaves is something I will look into. I've never touched posgtres replication; and Scott mentioned that he was not familiar with PGCluster, so there must be some ot

Re: [GENERAL] Scalability Design Questions

2007-09-12 Thread Asko Oja
Hello We plProxy to split our database into partitions. See Kristo's blog's about that at http://kaiv.wordpress.com/. For replication we use Londiste in SkyTools package. SkyTools contains several more scripts that are useful when buildin large and complex systems running on large number of serve

Re: [GENERAL] Scalability Design Questions

2007-09-09 Thread novnov
OK, this has been very informative and I'd like to thank the three of you. Asynchronous replication to readonly slaves is something I will look into. I've never touched posgtres replication; and Scott mentioned that he was not familiar with PGCluster, so there must be some other replication syst

Re: [GENERAL] Scalability Design Questions

2007-09-08 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/08/07 19:58, novnov wrote: > You're right, that's not how I understood your partitioning question. I'd not > be eager to implement that kind of split in the db, though I can see that > it's an example of how to spread the load around. > > But ba

Re: [GENERAL] Scalability Design Questions

2007-09-08 Thread Trevor Talbot
On 9/8/07, novnov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But basically, it seems that the answer to one of my questions is that there > is currently no way with postgres to spread a single database over multiple > servers, ala a loadbalanced apache cluster, where requests are forwarded to > different boxes.

Re: [GENERAL] Scalability Design Questions

2007-09-08 Thread novnov
You're right, that's not how I understood your partitioning question. I'd not be eager to implement that kind of split in the db, though I can see that it's an example of how to spread the load around. But basically, it seems that the answer to one of my questions is that there is currently no wa

Re: [GENERAL] Scalability Design Questions

2007-09-08 Thread Scott Marlowe
On 9/8/07, novnov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yes the trx would be akin to banking operations. > > This is good: "Can you partition your data to multiple servers?" That's kind > of my question! I've not dealt with RAC, data partitioning, any of those > topics; just haven't had exposure. But sin

Re: [GENERAL] Scalability Design Questions

2007-09-08 Thread novnov
Yes the trx would be akin to banking operations. This is good: "Can you partition your data to multiple servers?" That's kind of my question! I've not dealt with RAC, data partitioning, any of those topics; just haven't had exposure. But since you're asking me if the data can be partitioned to d

Re: [GENERAL] Scalability Design Questions

2007-09-08 Thread Scott Marlowe
On 9/8/07, novnov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yes, I realize that scaling must be a large and complicated topic. And that > PostgresSQL is not as scaleable as Oracle etc. Depends on how we're defining scalability. :) I didn't explicitly say that RAC will outscale postgresql. It's just one ap

Re: [GENERAL] Scalability Design Questions

2007-09-08 Thread novnov
Yes, I realize that scaling must be a large and complicated topic. And that PostgresSQL is not as scaleable as Oracle etc. I know after reading your post that Postgres cannot match RAC. I'm still not sure if Postgres can operate a database from more than one box, at all. If it can, how? I mean is

Re: [GENERAL] Scalability Design Questions

2007-09-08 Thread Scott Marlowe
On 9/8/07, novnov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What happens when a database needs to scale beyond a single server? Is this > something PostgreSQL can do? > > Further, does a database need to be designed differently if it's going to be > used on more than one server? I know there are many issues t

[GENERAL] Scalability Design Questions

2007-09-08 Thread novnov
What happens when a database needs to scale beyond a single server? Is this something PostgreSQL can do? Further, does a database need to be designed differently if it's going to be used on more than one server? I know there are many issues that might effect a database's ability to scale; but sp