Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL slammed by PHP creator

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Treat) wrote: > On Thursday 14 September 2006 12:19, Joshua D. Drake wrote: > > Arturo Perez wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > Any response to this: > > > http://www.internetnews.com/dev-news/article.php/3631831 > > > > > Well first, your

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All of my cool witty retorts to all of these posts are being ruined by the fact that all of my mails are being scrutinized by the moderators first. Everyone is getting in before me. Mine are going to seem like the slow witted back-water cousins to these sharp NY barristers. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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> > I've > > never used a hammer to put in a screw. > > So I guess you're one of those ivory-tower theory-purist academic types, at > least when it comes to home repairs. No no. When it comes to everything. I have read all the books and watched Norm Abraham till my eyes bled. There's not m

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Scott Ribe schrieb: I've never used a hammer to put in a screw. So I guess you're one of those ivory-tower theory-purist academic types, at least when it comes to home repairs. As a more practical person myself, let me just say that sometimes a 3lb hammer is exactly the right tool to get a scre

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/17/06 20:07, Tim Allen wrote: >>> As a comment on his points though, isn't it better to use the right >>> tool for the job rather than try to force one tool to do everything? >>> I've never used a hammer to put in a screw. >> >> You haven't? >>

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As a comment on his points though, isn't it better to use the right tool for the job rather than try to force one tool to do everything? I've never used a hammer to put in a screw. You haven't? All right-minded people know that PostgreSQL is manifestly superior and that people who want to us

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A case in point: When it comes to driving a screw into a material (like wood) in which the screw creates the mating helix itself when first driven in, you might find it helpful to hammer a small portion of the screw into the receiving part, so the screw "gets an initial hold". It is much easie

Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL slammed by PHP creator

Scott Ribe wrote: I've never used a hammer to put in a screw. So I guess you're one of those ivory-tower theory-purist academic types, at least when it comes to home repairs. As a more practical person myself, let me just say that sometimes a 3lb hammer is exactly the right tool to get a screw

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/17/06 16:34, Scott Ribe wrote: >> I've never used a hammer to put in a screw. > > So I guess you're one of those ivory-tower theory-purist academic > types, at least when it comes to home repairs. As a more > practical person myself, let me just

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> I've > never used a hammer to put in a screw. So I guess you're one of those ivory-tower theory-purist academic types, at least when it comes to home repairs. As a more practical person myself, let me just say that sometimes a 3lb hammer is exactly the right tool to get a screw set in quickly ;

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/14/06 16:03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 15/09/2006 04:40:04 a.m.: [snip] > As a comment on his points though, isn't it better to use the right tool > for the job rather than try to force one tool to do everything? I'v

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 15/09/2006 04:40:04 a.m.: > > > I wasn't able to find anything the "article" worth discussing. If you > > give up A, C, I, and D, of course you get better performance- just like > > you can get better performance from a wheel-less Yugo if you slide it > > down a lug

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On Thursday 14 September 2006 12:19, Joshua D. Drake wrote: > Arturo Perez wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > Any response to this: > > http://www.internetnews.com/dev-news/article.php/3631831 > > Well first, your subject line is very incendiary and not necessary... I expect that kind of thing from slash

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On Thursday 14. September 2006 17:27, Arturo Perez wrote: >Hi all, > >Any response to this: >http://www.internetnews.com/dev-news/article.php/3631831 I submitted the story to Slashdot: http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/09/15/1412249 In the /. discussion, Rasmus Lerdorf himself claims that

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Lincoln Yeoh wrote: > At 11:27 AM 9/14/2006 -0400, Arturo Perez wrote: > > >Hi all, > > > >Any response to this: > > > PHP makes "wrong things" easy, and "right things" hard. > > Evidence: "addslashes", "register_globals" and "magic quote

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At 11:27 AM 9/14/2006 -0400, Arturo Perez wrote: Hi all, Any response to this: http://www.internetnews.com/dev-news/article.php/3631831 The title of the article is funny: "Is PHP The Cure For The 'Broken' Web?" In my opinion PHP is

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On Fri, 2006-09-15 at 00:21 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 09/14/06 21:32, AgentM wrote: > > > > On Sep 14, 2006, at 21:25 , Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > >> > >> I am not going to ask how you got to 135MPH. > > > > Obviously he was running MySQL under the hood. > > No wonder he spun out and crash

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On 09/14/06 21:32, AgentM wrote: > > On Sep 14, 2006, at 21:25 , Bruce Momjian wrote: > >> >> I am not going to ask how you got to 135MPH. > > Obviously he was running MySQL under the hood. No wonder he spun out and crashed into a telephone poll... -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Is "c

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On Thu, 14 Sep 2006, AgentM wrote: Obviously he was running MySQL under the hood. Ta-da! We have a winner! Rich -- Richard B. Shepard, Ph.D. |The Environmental Permitting Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc.(TM)|Accelerator Voi

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On Sep 14, 2006, at 21:25 , Bruce Momjian wrote: I am not going to ask how you got to 135MPH. Obviously he was running MySQL under the hood. -M ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 4: Have you searched our list archives? http://archive

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bank :) Are we talking about this one? http://www.musclecarclub.com/musclecars/plymouth-cuda/plymouth-cuda.shtml Note that this was a very long time ago :) I hope it wasn't on 1966 ... I am not going to ask how you got to 135MPH. Oh that is easy, you just press on the gas and watch the car

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Joshua D. Drake wrote: I can top that :). I hit a telephone pole at 135MPH in a 66 Cuda :) If it hadn't been for the gravel around that corner, I would have beat the other car too. ' (a tear for your 66 cuda...) Hell I cried more then a tear. The cop felt so bad for me, he didn't even tick

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Alvaro Herrera wrote: Joshua D. Drake wrote: I can top that :). I hit a telephone pole at 135MPH in a 66 Cuda :) If it hadn't been for the gravel around that corner, I would have beat the other car too. ' (a tear for your 66 cuda...) Hell I cried more then a tear. The cop felt so bad for me, h

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Bruce Momjian wrote: Alvaro Herrera wrote: Joshua D. Drake wrote: I can top that :). I hit a telephone pole at 135MPH in a 66 Cuda :) If it hadn't been for the gravel around that corner, I would have beat the other car too. ' (a tear for your 66 cuda...) Hell I cried more then a tear. The cop

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Alvaro Herrera wrote: > Joshua D. Drake wrote: > > >> > > >>I can top that :). I hit a telephone pole at 135MPH in a 66 Cuda :) > > >>If it hadn't been for the gravel around that corner, I would have beat > > >>the other car too. > > > > > >' (a tear for your 66 cuda...) > > > > Hell I cried more

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Joshua D. Drake wrote: > >> > >>I can top that :). I hit a telephone pole at 135MPH in a 66 Cuda :) > >>If it hadn't been for the gravel around that corner, I would have beat > >>the other car too. > > > >' (a tear for your 66 cuda...) > > Hell I cried more then a tear. The cop felt so bad for me

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I can top that :). I hit a telephone pole at 135MPH in a 66 Cuda :) If it hadn't been for the gravel around that corner, I would have beat the other car too. ' (a tear for your 66 cuda...) Hell I cried more then a tear. The cop felt so bad for me, he didn't even ticket me... All white, red

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Joshua D. Drake wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 15/09/2006 04:40:04 a.m.: I wasn't able to find anything the "article" worth discussing. If you give up A, C, I, and D, of course you get better performance- just like you can get better performance from a wheel-less

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On Thu, 2006-09-14 at 11:40, Joshua D. Drake wrote: > > I wasn't able to find anything the "article" worth discussing. If you > > give up A, C, I, and D, of course you get better performance- just like > > you can get better performance from a wheel-less Yugo if you slide it > > down a luge trac

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: Thursday, September 14, 2006 5:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: PostgreSQL General ML Subject: Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL slammed by PHP creator [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 15/09/2006 04:40:04 a.m.: I wasn't able to find anything the "article" worth dis

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PROTECTED] Cc: PostgreSQL General ML Subject: Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL slammed by PHP creator [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 15/09/2006 04:40:04 a.m.: > >>> I wasn't able to find anything the "article" worth discussing. If you >>> gi

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 15/09/2006 04:40:04 a.m.: I wasn't able to find anything the "article" worth discussing. If you give up A, C, I, and D, of course you get better performance- just like you can get better performance from a wheel-less Yugo if you slide it do

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* Arturo Perez ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Any response to this: > http://www.internetnews.com/dev-news/article.php/3631831 Turn fsync off and try again. Don't expect your data to stay consistant tho. Enjoy, Stephen signature.asc Description: Digital signature

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I wasn't able to find anything the "article" worth discussing. If you give up A, C, I, and D, of course you get better performance- just like you can get better performance from a wheel-less Yugo if you slide it down a luge track. I don't think a Yugo would give you better performance no mat

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Alvaro Herrera wrote: Joshua D. Drake wrote: However, he does carry some umpf in certain circles. Perhaps we should prove him wrong? I take it you mean "oomph"? Yeah probably :) Main Entry: oomph Pronunciation: 'um(p)f Function: noun Etymology: imitative of a sound made under exertion 1

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Joshua D. Drake wrote: > However, he does carry some umpf in certain circles. Perhaps we should > prove him wrong? I take it you mean "oomph"? Main Entry: oomph Pronunciation: 'um(p)f Function: noun Etymology: imitative of a sound made under exertion 1 : personal charm or magnetism : GLAMOUR 2

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Arturo Perez wrote: Hi all, Any response to this: http://www.internetnews.com/dev-news/article.php/3631831 From the FA: One performance enhancement that Lerdorf suggested based on code analysis was to use MySQL instead of PostgreSQL for the database. "If you can fit your problem into what My

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AgentM wrote: On Sep 14, 2006, at 11:27 , Arturo Perez wrote: One performance enhancement that Lerdorf suggested based on code analysis was to use MySQL instead of PostgreSQL for the database. ...If you give up A, C, I, and D, of course you get better performance- just like you can ge

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Arturo Perez wrote: Any response to this: http://www.internetnews.com/dev-news/article.php/3631831 Oh please! Can we skip this one? Maybe on the advocacy groups, not on [GENERAL], pleze! thanks, bkw ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 6: explain a

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On Sep 14, 2006, at 11:27 , Arturo Perez wrote: Hi all, Any response to this: http://www.internetnews.com/dev-news/article.php/3631831 From the FA: One performance enhancement that Lerdorf suggested based on code analysis was to use MySQL instead of PostgreSQL for the database. "If you c

[GENERAL] PostgreSQL slammed by PHP creator

Title: PostgreSQL slammed by PHP creator Hi all, Any response to this: http://www.internetnews.com/dev-news/article.php/3631831 From the FA: One performance enhancement that Lerdorf suggested based on code analysis was to use MySQL instead of PostgreSQL for the database. "If you can