On 29/11/03, Randal L. Schwartz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Well, since I need 2.5 ideas per month for the three columns I'm still
> writing, I'm certainly in a position to write nice things about PG,
> although I always have to work it in from a Perl slant.
>
> Actually, I'm sure that any of the
Chris Travers wrote:
Here is a paper I have written for the purposes of providing some
additional educational material for the MySQL crowd.
Here's my contribution:
Why I choose PostgreSQL (PostgreSQL in 21 Seconds)
I choose referential integrity, meaning my lookups always work.
I choose stor
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Subject: Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL Advocacy, Thoughts and Comments
> Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL Advocacy, Thoughts and CommentsRegarding the
> learning curve issue, maybe people can recomme
Note: I am a php developer and I love it, but...
>In dealing with web applications and frontends to database or
>even just a dynamic web site PHP has every bit the power and ability that
>Java does and the development time is way down.
Uh, how about threads. I know that you don't need them much
aturday, November 29, 2003 10:01 AM
Subject: Re: Triggers, Stored Procedures, PHP. was: Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL
Advocacy, Thoughts and Comments
> "Rod K" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Paul Thomas wrote:
> >> Much of the populatity of MySQL seems to stem from PHPs
On 29/11/2003 16:24 Jason Tesser wrote:
[snip]
A programmer that doesn't document stuff needs to find a new job :-)
Agreed. So you're replaced him and inherited a documentation-free
application. How many favours has he done you by squirrelling away section
of business logic in the database?
This
Title: Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL Advocacy, Thoughts and Comments
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Chris Travers wrote:
Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Wrote:
Now many
consultant/developer/sys-admins like myself are going to client site on
a contract (this is especially true in the UK, I can'
Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Wrote:
> Now many
> consultant/developer/sys-admins like myself are going to client site on
> a contract (this is especially true in the UK, I can't speak for
> anywhere else) and finding complex stocktrading systems, inventory
> systems, CRM systems, and others, all writt
From: "Paul Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Stored procedures can be a 2-edged sword. They can lead to business logic
> being scattered between the persistence layer and the business layer.
> Thats not good for maintaining the application 3 years down the line.
> Triggers can also cause maintenance
Paul Thomas wrote:
>
>
>
> On 28/11/2003 17:10 Jason Tesser wrote:
> > [snip]
> >
> > MySQL cannot even handle
> > sub-queries yet. I also use Python for standalone interfaces to
> the data.
> >
> > Why should I not be able to use the same views and triggers etc
> in there
> > that I use for my
On 28/11/2003 17:10 Jason Tesser wrote:
[snip]
I completely disagree. I do a lot of programming with PHP and the
features
of Postgres come in handy. Let me give you an example of just some
basic things. Triggers! Why should I have to write insert and update
triggers in the logic (PHP) if I can
Further to this post, what might actually work is to convince O' Reilly
(since they have PostgreSQL book/s) to do some articles like they have
for PG, but making full use of the PG database. For instance, building
a simple data-warehouse using PG. Articles that show off an OSS
product/project
HI All,
I'm glad that this thread prompted some thoughtful response. I think
one of my main points I was trying to make, Jason hit the nail on the
head. The article to which I was referring uses a great example which I
have experienced many times before, but in order to grasp this, PHP et
a
On Sat, 2003-11-29 at 04:37, cnliou wrote:
> "Jason Tesser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > MySQL cannot even handle sub-queries yet.
>
> Ohh! Really?
> Allow me to pay my highest respect to the genius mySQL
> programmers!
> I completely have no clue on how to construct any single
> tiny database on
"Jason Tesser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I completely disagree. I do a lot of programming with PHP and the
features
> of Postgres come in handy. Let me give you an example of just some
> basic things. Triggers! Why should I have to write insert and update
> triggers in the logic (PHP) if I c
"Jason Tesser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> MySQL cannot even handle sub-queries yet.
Ohh! Really?
Allow me to pay my highest respect to the genius mySQL
programmers!
I completely have no clue on how to construct any single
tiny database on a DBMS having no sub-query capability.
Being too dumb, I sol
hi,
> Maybe there's not such a need for the advanced features of PostgreSQL
> amongst PHP programmers as you seem to believe. Most of the PHP stuff I've
> seen is read-only content display stuff and that doesn't really require a
> top-notch RDBMS; a more limited database should also be up to
On 27/11/2003 09:19 Tony wrote:
Hi All,
I've just been reading an article in PHP Architect magazine
(http://www.phparch.com) which is the cover story for October called
"Migrating from MySQL to PostgreSQL". I must say that this is a highly
compelling article, especially for me, and is aimed a
Hi All,
I've just been reading an article in PHP Architect magazine
(http://www.phparch.com) which is the cover story for October called
"Migrating from MySQL to PostgreSQL". I must say that this is a highly
compelling article, especially for me, and is aimed at programmers that
aren't neces
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