Re: [GENERAL] Upcoming Changes to News Server ...

2004-11-23 Thread Gary L. Burnore
At 11:56 PM 11/23/2004, Stephan Szabo wrote: On Tue, 23 Nov 2004, Gary L. Burnore wrote: > At 07:47 PM 11/23/2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > -Original Message- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jim Seymour > >

Re: [GENERAL] Upcoming Changes to News Server ...

2004-11-23 Thread Gary L. Burnore
At 08:58 PM 11/23/2004, you wrote: ctlinnd rmgroup comp.databases.postgresql.interfaces.php ctlinnd rmgroup comp.databases.postgresql.ports.general ctlinnd rmgroup comp.databases.postgresql.interfaces ctlinnd rmgroup comp.databases.postgresql.ports ctlinnd rmgroup comp.databases.postgresql.interfac

Re: [GENERAL] Upcoming Changes to News Server ...

2004-11-23 Thread Gary L. Burnore
At 08:12 PM 11/23/2004, Joshua D. Drake wrote: BTW, you indicated that one of the reasons pressing you to move was that Google had dropped indexing services for the comp.* groups. Have they given you an indication that they would index pgsql.*, or are we just out of luck on that service? Just FYI,

Re: [GENERAL] Upcoming Changes to News Server ...

2004-11-23 Thread Gary L. Burnore
At 07:47 PM 11/23/2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jim Seymour > Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 5:18 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [GENERAL] Upcoming Changes to News Server .

Re: [GENERAL] Upcoming Changes to News Server ...

2004-11-23 Thread Gary L. Burnore
At 06:16 PM 11/23/2004, Tom Lane wrote: "Marc G. Fournier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > What I've done doesn't eliminate (or shouldn't) the desire for a comp.* > hierarchy of groups for postgresql, it just means that the what will end > up still being considered bogus groups will be able to still

Re: [GENERAL] Upcoming Changes to News Server ...

2004-11-23 Thread Gary L. Burnore
At 05:57 PM 11/23/2004, Jim Seymour wrote: Tom Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [snip] > > Personally I think Marc should have waited awhile longer to see whether > the news.groups process would produce a positive vote, but that's just > my own $0.02. That's the way *I* would've preferred to see i

Re: [GENERAL] Upcoming Changes to News Server ...

2004-11-23 Thread Gary L. Burnore
At 05:43 PM 11/23/2004, Tom Lane wrote: "Joshua D. Drake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > All I meant was, has core talked about it? There has been no private discussion among core about it; it's not part of our charter IMHO. Personally I think Marc should have waited awhile longer to see whether the

Re: [GENERAL] Upcoming Changes to News Server ...

2004-11-23 Thread Gary L. Burnore
At 05:28 PM 11/23/2004, Joshua D. Drake wrote: Jim Seymour wrote: "Gary L. Burnore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] It's ok. Mysql's better anyway. Was that absolutely necessary? Of course not. Yes. It shows his lack of credibility ;) My credibility isn't th

Re: [GENERAL] Upcoming Changes to News Server ...

2004-11-23 Thread Gary L. Burnore
On 23 Nov 2004 21:57:22 GMT, Woodchuck Bill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Gary L. Burnore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: > >> And not helping postgres since less NSP's will carry the groups and >> the postgres message. >> >>

Re: [GENERAL] Upcoming Changes to News Server ...

2004-11-23 Thread Gary L. Burnore
On 23 Nov 2004 21:41:16 GMT, Woodchuck Bill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Patrick B Kelly) wrote in news:E55E257B-3D95-11D9- >[EMAIL PROTECTED]: > >> On Nov 23, 2004, at 3:59 PM, Gary L. Burnore wrote: >> >>> On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 15:37:56 -0400

Re: [GENERAL] Upcoming Changes to News Server ...

2004-11-23 Thread Gary L. Burnore
On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 16:23:19 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Patrick B Kelly) wrote: > >On Nov 23, 2004, at 3:59 PM, Gary L. Burnore wrote: > >> On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 15:37:56 -0400 (AST), [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> ("Marc G. Fournier") wrote: >> >>> >

Re: [GENERAL] Upcoming Changes to News Server ...

2004-11-23 Thread Gary L. Burnore
At 03:44 PM 11/23/2004, Joshua D. Drake wrote: Did you warn the proponent of comp.databases.postgresql.* that you were going to do this? Did you read any of the arguments for and against a completely separate hierarchy that were posted to the RFD thread in news.groups? Interesting point. What did

Re: [GENERAL] Upcoming Changes to News Server ...

2004-11-23 Thread Gary L. Burnore
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Re: [GENERAL] I'm about to release the next postgresql RFD.

2004-11-14 Thread Gary L. Burnore
At 01:54 AM 11/14/2004, Sim Zacks wrote: BTW, in Outlook Express if you are posting to the news.postgresql.org server it will not send a message to news.groups. So this message will not get there unless someone puts it there. If 4 are official and 16 are unofficial, why would that bother you? Becau

Re: [GENERAL] I'm about to release the next postgresql RFD.

2004-11-14 Thread Gary L. Burnore
At 11:54 AM 11/14/2004, you wrote: The new proposal should have all of the lists. This is true. All the mailing lists that gate to USENet should either be legitimized or removed. ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 9: the planner will ignore your desire to

Re: [GENERAL] I spoke with Marc from the postgresql mailing

2004-11-13 Thread Gary L. Burnore
At 07:30 PM 11/13/2004, you wrote: If the process drags on for too long, people will start to get annoyed with the process and lose interest. I speak from experience. This hasn't dragged on too long? Not at all. People aren't already annoyed? Not those that matter. Seriously, the usenet people lo

Re: [GENERAL] Important Info on

2004-11-11 Thread Gary L. Burnore
At 03:23 AM 11/11/2004, Net Virtual Mailing Lists wrote: Hi Kevin, I'm probably a bit more concerned about this than you are... I don't want to have to post anonymously just to protect my email address... That is precisely why I stopped using Usenet about 5 years ago - it just got overwhelming...

Re: [GENERAL] RFD: comp.databases.postgresql.general

2004-11-08 Thread Gary L. Burnore
At 11:48 AM 11/8/2004, you wrote: On Mon, 8 Nov 2004, Gary L. Burnore wrote: At 11:01 PM 11/7/2004, you wrote: On Sun, 7 Nov 2004, Gary L. Burnore wrote: User makes a comment in USENet. Post gets seen on usenet servers around the world. Moderator chooses not to approve. Unless ist Spam

Re: [GENERAL] RFD: comp.databases.postgresql.general

2004-11-08 Thread Gary L. Burnore
At 10:20 PM 11/7/2004, you wrote: Andy wrote: > Someone posted this official proposal to create > comp.databases.postgresql.general again. He wrote his own charter. As > far as I know, he did not consult any of the postgresql groups first. > There may be an upcoming vote on this, so please stay inf

Re: [GENERAL] I spoke with Marc from the postgresql mailing list.

2004-11-07 Thread Gary L. Burnore
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Re: [GENERAL] RFD: comp.databases.postgresql.general

2004-11-07 Thread Gary L. Burnore
On Sun, 07 Nov 2004 21:16:05 GMT, Stephan Szabo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Gary L. Burnore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>On Sun, 07 Nov 2004 19:26:42 GMT, Stephan Szabo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>wrote: >> >>>"Robert G" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [GENERAL] ALERT This mailing list may be voted into a

2004-11-07 Thread Gary L. Burnore
At 08:29 AM 11/6/2004, edward ohare wrote: On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 08:42:40 -0800 (PST), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andy M) wrote: >ALERT > >There is a person by the name of Mike Cox who's trying >to turn this mailing list into a Big-8 newsgroup. Many >of you know that this and most of the other postresql >mail

Re: [GENERAL] RFD: comp.databases.postgresql.general

2004-11-07 Thread Gary L. Burnore
At 04:29 PM 11/7/2004, Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Sun, 7 Nov 2004, Gary L. Burnore wrote: The groups aren't listed as moderated. Anyone who wants to post is able to. Those not on the mailing list don't go through. That's the problem. As long as the posting gets to the gateway, i

Re: [GENERAL] Postresql RFD version 2.0 Help Wanted.

2004-11-07 Thread Gary L. Burnore
At 12:16 AM 11/7/2004, Russ Allbery wrote: In news.groups, Mike Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'm pretty much done with this anyway. It is a waste of time putting in > anymore effort since no one seems to want it. Well, the problem from my perspective is that a lot of time and energy is being

Re: [GENERAL] RFD: comp.databases.postgresql.general

2004-11-07 Thread Gary L. Burnore
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Re: [GENERAL] RFD: comp.databases.postgresql.general

2004-11-07 Thread Gary L. Burnore
ce? It wasn't. It was yet anoter dumb thing to do. >At least the RFD would move >the list to being properly officially connect to usenet rather than making >a new group that will likely not attract a large percentage of the people >that answer the -general questions. -- [EMAIL PROTEC

Re: [GENERAL] RFD: comp.databases.postgresql.general

2004-11-07 Thread Gary L. Burnore
r your efforts to facilitate discussion of a fine RDMS, and >thanks in advance for your cooperation. So are you going to begin discussions on removing the gateway? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] dot com ---