Re: RES: [GENERAL] NewsForge Poll: Favorite open source database?

2004-12-20 Thread Russ Brown
Issues with the link aside, there's an interesting comment entitled "MySQL has the better license", which reads: Someday PostgreSQL might be "embraced and extended" by a predatory company that will turn it into a closed product, because it uses the (defective IMHO) BSD license. That can't happen w

Re: [GENERAL] transactions in multiple action rules

2004-12-20 Thread Tom Lane
Ron Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Do the multiple actions within a multiple action rule implicitly reside > within a transaction? Yes. In the current code it is actually not possible for a single SQL command issued by the client to give rise to more than one transaction. (This might chan

RES: RES: [GENERAL] NewsForge Poll: Favorite open source database ?

2004-12-20 Thread Marcelo Cid
> suspected the original link you posted: > Mike Mascari Excuse me. But I dont tried to spoof the vote. I only copied the link after I voted, so the site returned this link. Maybe someone can corret the link on my initial post. Marcelo Cid ---(end of broadcast)--

[GENERAL] Create a cache DB between web portal and internal DB?

2004-12-20 Thread Dearman, Rick
I have a requirement from my security manager but I can't seem to find a good solution. So I wondered if someone had done something similar. We have a web portal and a DB in PostgreSQL (obviously) which contains user data. The portal is accessed by account managers who have access to only speci

RES: [GENERAL] NewsForge Poll: Favorite open source database?

2004-12-20 Thread Marcelo Cid
> > http://www.newsforge.com/pollBooth.pl?qid=54 > > > > > > I see strange line below results: > > "(You've already voted.)" > > > > I don't believe such results because I do know I didn't been here :) > > Marcel's link did the favor of voting for you. Not good > > Mike Mascari No. The link

[GENERAL] could not access file $libdir...

2004-12-20 Thread Sim Zacks
I am using PG version 8.0 beta 1 and I have run into some problems. I have 2 RedHat 8 servers running the same PG version, I built them both from source, and I believe I used the same configure parameters. I have a database on one of them and want to move it to the second one, but it is not workin

Re: [GENERAL] Multi row sequence?

2004-12-20 Thread Filip Wuytack
I'm working on a database that will contain companies (group) and the relevant listing (securities-> id) and related periodic information. I want the end users of the data to see the relationship between the 2 (comp A, security 01, security 02;comp B, security 01, security 02) in the key (company,s

[GENERAL] Need help to organize database

2004-12-20 Thread Vladimir S. Petukhov
Hi Sorry for my English.. I need to organize database structure for saving statistic data for objects. I have about 24 * 31 * 4 fields (4 month, 31 days, 24 hours) of data for one object. Each field contain 8 numbers (N in general). So: object1 -> data -> field1, field2,... object2 -> data ->

[GENERAL] Israel Go-Linux conference

2004-12-20 Thread Sim Zacks
Are there going to be any PostGreSQL events/people at the Go-Linux conference in Israel this Wednesday? ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 9: the planner will ignore your desire to choose an index scan if your joining column's datatypes do not matc

Re: [GENERAL] transactions in multiple action rules

2004-12-20 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Dec 20, 2004 at 23:15:39 -0500, Ron Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Do the multiple actions within a multiple action rule implicitly reside > within a transaction? I notice that if I brace my multiple actions with > BEGIN; and COMMIT;, that I get a syntax error, so I'm assuming tha

[GENERAL] transactions in multiple action rules

2004-12-20 Thread Ron Peterson
Do the multiple actions within a multiple action rule implicitly reside within a transaction? I notice that if I brace my multiple actions with BEGIN; and COMMIT;, that I get a syntax error, so I'm assuming that's because they are superfluous in that context... ? (I want to be sure that I can cou

[GENERAL] problems with date

2004-12-20 Thread Jamie Deppeler
Hi, having a small problem in a trigger i want to automatically update a date field but when i use for example update table set field = current_date where table.pk = new.pk or update table set field = now() where table.pk = new.pk this crashes think link between server and db, i have tried using

[GENERAL] weird run-times with pg_autovacuum

2004-12-20 Thread Postgres Learner
Hi all! I recently started using pg_autovacuum instead of scheduling vacuum analyzes in a system that needs to be taken to production soon. However, I have noticed something funny that happens while using this. sometimes, some database operations take an unreasonably long time to finish. I have n

[GENERAL] Installing postgres 8 using Remote Desktop Connection

2004-12-20 Thread Rosny
Hi, Any body has successfully installing postgres 8 using Remote Desktop Connection for windows 2003 server web edition? I am keep getting rdp session instead of console. Even using command : mstsc /v:servername /console. with this command I can see several others rdp sessions. which means I might

Re: [GENERAL] Short circuit operations in plpgsql?

2004-12-20 Thread Tom Lane
Steve Atkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > IF TG_OP='INSERT' OR NEW.foo != OLD.foo THEN > -- do stuff > Is there anything that guarantees that the NEW.foo != OLD.foo won't > be evaluated (and hence fail, as there is no OLD) on an insert? The only way is to split the expression into two IF c

Re: [GENERAL] Diskspace

2004-12-20 Thread Tom Lane
Jeff MacDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > well, i did a "delete from email_log" and then a vacuum and the files > are still lingering around... TRUNCATE would be better. A VACUUM FULL would shrink the tables all right, but probably not do much for the indexes. regards,

Re: [GENERAL] Diskspace

2004-12-20 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
VACUUM or VACUUM FULL. Only the second actually reclaims diskspace... On Mon, Dec 20, 2004 at 03:21:51PM -0400, Jeff MacDonald wrote: > well, i did a "delete from email_log" and then a vacuum and the files > are still lingering around... > > still huge. the postmaster did die due to a diskspace i

[GENERAL] Short circuit operations in plpgsql?

2004-12-20 Thread Steve Atkins
I have some triggers. They need to do stuff when a new row is inserted or when the value of a particular field changes. So, something like: IF TG_OP='INSERT' OR NEW.foo != OLD.foo THEN -- do stuff END IF; RETURN NEW; Is there anything that guarantees that the NEW.foo != OLD.foo won't b

Re: [GENERAL] Diskspace

2004-12-20 Thread Jeff MacDonald
well, i did a "delete from email_log" and then a vacuum and the files are still lingering around... still huge. the postmaster did die due to a diskspace issue, so i wonder if it's still just keeping a wierd lock on those files or something.. idea's ? On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 11:01:32 -0300, Alvaro H

Re: [GENERAL] unix_socket_directory

2004-12-20 Thread Tom Lane
Scott Marlowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Some GUC parameters are integers, boolean, or floats, that don't need >> quotes, and some are strings that do. > What confused me was the constants that don't need quotes (like > client_min_messages) and can be set to many different string constants. >

Re: [GENERAL] unix_socket_directory

2004-12-20 Thread Scott Marlowe
On Fri, 2004-12-17 at 22:10, Bruce Momjian wrote: > Scott Marlowe wrote: > > On Fri, 2004-12-17 at 16:18, Tom Lane wrote: > > > Scott Marlowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > >> Not sure, but I think you need quotes: > > > >> unix_socket_directory = '/home/pgmaster/tmp' > > > > > > > Wow, that wa

Re: [GENERAL] Scheduler in Postgres

2004-12-20 Thread Tom Lane
"Guy Rouillier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Not to mention SET SESSION AUTHORIZATION. > Chris, all the options you mention require the entry of a password, or > for SET SESSION AUTHORIZATION, that the original connection was made by > a superuser (which in turn would have required entry of a pa

Re: [GENERAL] Scheduler in Postgres

2004-12-20 Thread Guy Rouillier
Tom Lane wrote: > Christopher Browne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw when [EMAIL PROTECTED] ("Jim C. >> Nasby") would write: >>> In PostgreSQL, there's currently no way to assume the identity of >>> another user. > >> I'm confused at that... > >> There seem to b

Re: [GENERAL] A "cascade on delete" constraints deletes AFTER the source is gone??

2004-12-20 Thread Michael Fuhr
On Mon, Dec 20, 2004 at 04:31:59PM +0300, ON.KG wrote: > I need to make function which emulates table and returns setof columns > of this "table" Please start a new thread with a descriptive subject -- the message you posted was a followup to a thread covering a different topic. -- Michael Fuhr

Re: [GENERAL] Problems with pg_restore

2004-12-20 Thread Tom Lane
Kaloyan Iliev Iliev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > But as I say the file with copy commands contains > [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL > PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL > PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@COPY "tracking_base" FROM >

Re: [GENERAL] Problems with pg_restore

2004-12-20 Thread Kaloyan Iliev Iliev
But as I say the file with copy commands contains [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@COPY "tracking_base" FROM stdin; [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [GENERAL] Problems with pg_restore

2004-12-20 Thread Tom Lane
Kaloyan Iliev Iliev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > You are right. I coleage of mine has added the delete column after the > schema was created and it ptobably was on the bottom of the table and > dumped there. But now when I restore the schema this column is on the > top and the copy command woul

Re: [GENERAL] PG8 final when

2004-12-20 Thread Ian Barwick
On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 13:32:57 +, Russ Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:13:40 +0100, Együd Csaba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > as far as I can remember I somewhere read an article - maybe somwhere on a > > dbforum or the postgresql.org - which stated that after t

Re: [GENERAL] Problems with pg_restore

2004-12-20 Thread Richard Huxton
Kaloyan Iliev Iliev wrote: Hi , I have the following problem. DBVersion: PostgreSQL 7.2.3 on i386-pc-bsdi4.0.1, compiled by GCC 2.7.2.1 I have a dump of a database on two parts. Here are the dump commands: pg_dump -s -S postgres "db_name" |gzip > "db_name.shema.sql" pg_dump -S postgres -a -Fc "db

Re: [GENERAL] Problems with pg_restore

2004-12-20 Thread Kaloyan Iliev Iliev
Thanks Tom, You are right. I coleage of mine has added the delete column after the schema was created and it ptobably was on the bottom of the table and dumped there. But now when I restore the schema this column is on the top and the copy command wouldn't work. So I must change the schema file

Re: [GENERAL] Problems with pg_restore

2004-12-20 Thread Tom Lane
Kaloyan Iliev Iliev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [ details omitted ] The easiest way around this is to use a recent (7.4 or 8.0) pg_dump to dump from the 7.2 database. That will produce a dump using copy-with- column-list commands which will be proof against the schema rearrangement that you see

Re: [GENERAL] PG8 final when

2004-12-20 Thread Együd Csaba (Freemail)
OK, now I am well informed. Thank you. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher Browne Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 3:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [GENERAL] PG8 final when The world rejoiced as [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Együd

Re: [GENERAL] PG8 final when

2004-12-20 Thread Christopher Browne
The world rejoiced as [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Együd Csaba) wrote: > as far as I can remember I somewhere read an article - maybe somwhere on a > dbforum or the postgresql.org - which stated that after the RC1 the final > version is required to be announced at around 15. dec. May be I'm > misinformed.

[GENERAL] Problems with pg_restore

2004-12-20 Thread Kaloyan Iliev Iliev
Hi , I have the following problem. DBVersion: PostgreSQL 7.2.3 on i386-pc-bsdi4.0.1, compiled by GCC 2.7.2.1 I have a dump of a database on two parts. Here are the dump commands: pg_dump -s -S postgres "db_name" |gzip > "db_name.shema.sql" pg_dump -S postgres -a -Fc "db_name" > "db_name.data.dump

Re: [GENERAL] PG8 final when

2004-12-20 Thread Együd Csaba (Freemail)
You must be right and I must remeber wrong. Sorry. Despite of this I'm very happy with the new estimated deadline. :) Bye, -- Csaba -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Russ Brown Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 2:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [GENERAL] Diskspace

2004-12-20 Thread Alvaro Herrera
On Mon, Dec 20, 2004 at 09:57:35AM -0400, Jeff MacDonald wrote: > # select relname,relfilenode,relpages from pg_class where relfilenode > = 13312279; > relname | relfilenode | relpages > ---+-+-- > email_log |13312279 |36821 > > It just so happens that em

Re: [GENERAL] Diskspace

2004-12-20 Thread Jeff MacDonald
pg_class tells me select relname,relfilenode,relpages from pg_class where relfilenode = 13312283; relname | relfilenode | relpages ---+-+-- pg_toast_13312279 |13312283 | 367639 So now I guess I have to find out what 13312279 is.. Ah HA !

Re: [GENERAL] Diskspace

2004-12-20 Thread Alvaro Herrera
On Mon, Dec 20, 2004 at 09:48:57AM -0400, Jeff MacDonald wrote: > I'm using 7.3.4 And what about pg_class? -- Alvaro Herrera (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) "Industry suffers from the managerial dogma that for the sake of stability and continuity, the company should be independent of the competence of ind

Re: [GENERAL] Diskspace

2004-12-20 Thread Jeff MacDonald
I'm using 7.3.4 Jeff. On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 10:48:18 -0300, Alvaro Herrera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Dec 20, 2004 at 09:39:15AM -0400, Jeff MacDonald wrote: > > Hi, > > > select * from pg_statio_user_tables where relid = 13312283; > > See the pg_class table, using the relfilenode col

Re: [GENERAL] Diskspace

2004-12-20 Thread Alvaro Herrera
On Mon, Dec 20, 2004 at 09:39:15AM -0400, Jeff MacDonald wrote: Hi, > select * from pg_statio_user_tables where relid = 13312283; See the pg_class table, using the relfilenode column. > So I guess my question is, how do i find out what 13312283.* are, are > they safe to delete ? Probably none.

Re: [GENERAL] Diskspace

2004-12-20 Thread Jeff MacDonald
Hi, We after some more reading I learned that this huge file is my TOAST table.. Is there a way to schrink that down ? Thanks. Jeff. On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 09:39:15 -0400, Jeff MacDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I have a database that is about 3.5 gigs big. And I have a pretty > ser

[GENERAL] Diskspace

2004-12-20 Thread Jeff MacDonald
Hi, I have a database that is about 3.5 gigs big. And I have a pretty serious hunch that there isn't that much data. I did a "du -s *|sort -n " in /usr/local/pgsql/data/base/9039913 And got a list that ends with these entries. 55648 18070582 137296 13312252 294736 13312279 845648 13312283.

Re: [GENERAL] PG8 final when

2004-12-20 Thread Russ Brown
On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:13:40 +0100, Együd Csaba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > as far as I can remember I somewhere read an article - maybe somwhere on a > dbforum or the postgresql.org - which stated that after the RC1 the final > version is required to be announced at around 15. dec. May be I

Re: [GENERAL] PG8 final when

2004-12-20 Thread Együd Csaba
Hi, as far as I can remember I somewhere read an article - maybe somwhere on a dbforum or the postgresql.org - which stated that after the RC1 the final version is required to be announced at around 15. dec. May be I'm misinformed. Bye, -- Csaba -Original Message- From: Clodoaldo Pi

Re: [GENERAL] A "cascade on delete" constraints deletes AFTER the source is gone??

2004-12-20 Thread ON.KG
Hi All! I need to make function which emulates table and returns setof columns of this "table" for example, i'm making query: "SELECT * FROM my_table(user_id)" and function CREATE OR REPLACE FUNCTION my_table (integer) RETURNS setof text AS ' DECLARE check_date date; max_date date;

Re: [GENERAL] Scheduler in Postgres

2004-12-20 Thread Marco Colombo
On Fri, 17 Dec 2004, Ben wrote: I have many such tasks. Depending on implementation, it has the potential to be a TINY amount of less work to schedule such tasks from inside the database, but it takes all of about a minute to schedule it through cron. Including the amount of time it takes to refer

Re: [GENERAL] A "cascade on delete" constraints deletes AFTER the source is gone??

2004-12-20 Thread Michael Fuhr
On Mon, Dec 20, 2004 at 09:56:35AM +0200, Vitaly Belman wrote: > I have two tables. "Books" and "Book_Authors" (which links between > book_id and author_id). Is there a third table, perhaps Authors? > Book_authors has a foreign key on book_id to the Books table. On key > violation it is set to d

Re: RES: [GENERAL] NewsForge Poll: Favorite open source database?

2004-12-20 Thread Mike Mascari
Marcelo Cid wrote: http://www.newsforge.com/pollBooth.pl?qid=54 I see strange line below results: "(You've already voted.)" I don't believe such results because I do know I didn't been here :) Marcel's link did the favor of voting for you. Not good Mike Mascari No. The link dont do the voting.

Re: [GENERAL] readline configure error again

2004-12-20 Thread JM
im just replying just to get this thing on record.. so if someone looks for the answer this would help.. try installing this thing.. libtermcap-devel-2.0.8-35.i386.rpm i really dont know why this package needed.. On Tuesday 21 January 2003 00:59, mike wrote: > Hi again, > > I show more about