Re: pg_dump schema in pg11 without global permissions

2019-07-23 Thread Tom Lane
nary stuff) The GRANT CONNECT will be in the archive, but pg_restore should only print it if you specified -C. Experimenting, however, I see that that only works as intended if I use v11 pg_restore. I can replicate your result if I use v10 pg_restore. So ... don't do that. regards, tom lane

Re: SELECT INTO question

2019-07-25 Thread Tom Lane
row as one might expect. Perhaps somebody ought to fix that, but it's such a corner case that no one has bothered yet. regards, tom lane

Re: Hardware for writing/updating 12,000,000 rows per hour

2019-07-26 Thread Tom Lane
s of the storage hardware you'll need for this. regards, tom lane

Re: Why does backend send buffer size hardcoded at 8KB?

2019-07-27 Thread Tom Lane
as opposed to just making the buffer bigger. We have far too many GUCs already. regards, tom lane

Re: Why does backend send buffer size hardcoded at 8KB?

2019-07-27 Thread Tom Lane
ce issues; if somebody can show that that's not true, I wouldn't have any hesitation about kicking it up. (Might be worth malloc'ing it rather than having it as part of the static process image if we do so, but that's a trivial change.) regards, tom lane

Re: Why does backend send buffer size hardcoded at 8KB?

2019-07-27 Thread Tom Lane
Andres Freund writes: > On 2019-07-27 18:34:50 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: >> Yeah. The existing commentary about that is basically justifying 8K >> as being large enough to avoid performance issues; if somebody can >> show that that's not true, I wouldn't have any he

Re: Tablespace column value null on select * from pg_tables

2019-07-28 Thread Tom Lane
ixed without having a way to access and change catalogs from a different database, which is a large can of worms we don't want to open for such a small feature. regards, tom lane

Re: Reproducing query plans in empty database: can I just copy stats and settings?

2019-07-29 Thread Tom Lane
rse. I think though that Adrian's point is a bit different: if you're not allowed to see the original data, you should not be allowed to see the statistics either. The histogram values and most-common-values lists represent a pretty sizable information leak for such cases. regards, tom lane

Re: Active connections are terminated because of small wal_sender_timeout

2019-07-31 Thread Tom Lane
different installations. We don't want to artificially constrain what people can use, so the range of allowed settings *ought* to include some values that are not practically useful in specific situations. Those values might be just the right ones for someone else. regards, tom lane

Re: Which version to upgrade upto

2019-07-31 Thread Tom Lane
release is flat out folly. regards, tom lane

Re: Altering multiple column types

2019-08-02 Thread Tom Lane
;a=commitdiff&h=f946a4091 regards, tom lane

Re: why toasted is created when domain is used ?

2019-08-05 Thread Tom Lane
r variable-width cases is that type_maximum_size() only knows about built-in types, so the system can't determine the maximum row width. regards, tom lane

Re: Aggregate not using BRIN index on timestamp

2019-08-05 Thread Tom Lane
an provide more info. But first - am I missing something obvious? Yes: BRIN indexes don't provide any ordering information. A btree index on created_at could be used to optimize this query, but without one of those, seqscanning the whole table is the only possibility. regards, tom lane

Re: Aggregate not using BRIN index on timestamp

2019-08-05 Thread Tom Lane
Jeremy Finzel writes: > Thanks Tom. So, this is a very general question, but would it be possible > to develop that feature into BRIN, given what it stores? You'd need somebody who knows more about BRIN than me to opine on that. regards, tom lane

Re: Aggregate not using BRIN index on timestamp

2019-08-05 Thread Tom Lane
which, in the worst case, can take a long time. It's not obvious to me what you'd do with BRIN. regards, tom lane

Re: How to make transaction delete see data from a just completed concurrent transaction?

2019-08-05 Thread Tom Lane
le such that a uniqueness or exclusion constraint disallows having multiple sets of data for the same key. You'd still get failures and have to be willing to retry, but the cause of the failure would be much more narrowly defined than it is with a serialization failure. regards, tom lane

Re: Preventing in-session 'set role' commands

2019-08-06 Thread Tom Lane
an the latter.) You'd still need a trigger. regards, tom lane

Re: vacuum & free space map

2019-08-06 Thread Tom Lane
;s something that should be created; the decision not to bother is probably older than the fillfactor knob. regards, tom lane

Re: lead() with arrays - strange behaviour

2019-08-08 Thread Tom Lane
could probably get where you want to go with something along the lines of select id, id_list, next_list, array(select unnest(id_list) intersect select unnest(next_list)) as common_ids from ( select id, id_list, lead(id_list) over (order by id) as next_list from sample_data ) ss; regards, tom lane

Re: PostgreSQL 8.4 Tablespace Inconsistency

2019-08-09 Thread Tom Lane
ritative on this; the symlinks are. regards, tom lane

Re: PostgreSQL lock file

2019-08-09 Thread Tom Lane
hem thinking that the other one's lock files are relevant, and it provides an extra layer of security against possible conflicts between the two instances. regards, tom lane

Re: constrain with MATCH full and NULL values in referenced table

2019-08-12 Thread Tom Lane
nstraints to those columns? regards, tom lane

Re: GIST/GIN index not used with Row Level Security

2019-08-13 Thread Tom Lane
esting on a toy-size table, else the seqscan cost estimate would be a lot higher. With a table large enough to make it really important to guess right, even the default selectivity estimate might be enough to get an indexscan. regards, tom lane

Re: GIST/GIN index not used with Row Level Security

2019-08-13 Thread Tom Lane
> effectively blocks the use of GIN/GIST indexes when RLS is in use. There's a whole lot of daylight between "it doesn't pick an indexscan in this one example" and "it effectively blocks the use of GIN/GIST". regards, tom lane

Re: GIST/GIN index not used with Row Level Security

2019-08-13 Thread Tom Lane
that's where you change it. > Is there any documentation for which operators/functions are > leakproof? select oid::regprocedure from pg_proc where proleakproof; regards, tom lane

Re: Error XX000 After pg11 upgrade

2019-08-15 Thread Tom Lane
dangling reference coming from?". It's possibly hiding in the partitioning expression(s) of this partitioned table, but there's no way to tell with this amount of info. How did you do the upgrade exactly? regards, tom lane

Re: Variable constants ?

2019-08-15 Thread Tom Lane
ce about keeping some history is probably a better plan though. regards, tom lane

Re: Error XX000 After pg11 upgrade

2019-08-15 Thread Tom Lane
.* changing type from one call to the next might have something to do with it. I also wonder how often you create/delete child tables. regards, tom lane

Re: Bad Estimate for complex query with JOINS on subselects and OR in where conditions

2019-08-16 Thread Tom Lane
x27;t fix the bad rowcount estimate per se. regards, tom lane

Re: Bad Estimate for complex query with JOINS on subselects and OR in where conditions

2019-08-16 Thread Tom Lane
e OR, that isn't possible. regards, tom lane

Re: slow queries on system tables

2019-08-16 Thread Tom Lane
f the query makes any sense at all. regards, tom lane

Re: A user atribute question

2019-08-17 Thread Tom Lane
e-property issue; the role is marked as not being allowed to be used as a login role. Probably because you said CREATE ROLE not CREATE USER. You can fix it with ALTER ROLE ... LOGIN or something along that line, check the ALTER ROLE page. regards, tom lane

Re: How to determine what is preventing deleting a rule

2019-08-17 Thread Tom Lane
s user "postgres". d2=# drop user joe; ERROR: role "joe" cannot be dropped because some objects depend on it DETAIL: owner of table tt Unfortunately, we can't see into the catalogs of a different database to explain about dependencies there ... regards, tom lane

Re: Missing Trigger after pgdump install

2019-08-18 Thread Tom Lane
you've got more than one view named "subscribers", in different schemas? If so this might not be the relevant entry. regards, tom lane

Re: Sorry, real newbie question about connecting to a database

2019-08-19 Thread Tom Lane
) are allowed to connect as "employee". regards, tom lane

Re: Retroactively adding send and recv functions to a type?

2019-08-19 Thread Tom Lane
pg_depend entries showing the type depends on the functions. regards, tom lane

Re: Retroactively adding send and recv functions to a type?

2019-08-19 Thread Tom Lane
"Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson" writes: > On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 1:32 AM Tom Lane wrote: >> You could manually update the pg_type row, and then if you were >> being fussy, add pg_depend entries showing the type depends on >> the functions. > Can I

Re: Can SELECT … NOWAIT “deadlock”?

2019-08-20 Thread Tom Lane
ee no reason to think that 3 and 5 would appear to be atomic. regards, tom lane

Re: pg_dump problems: [archiver (db)] query failed: ERROR: relation "pg_opfamily" does not exist

2019-08-20 Thread Tom Lane
n in all the August minor releases. Sorry about that :-( regards, tom lane

Re: Retroactively adding send and recv functions to a type?

2019-08-20 Thread Tom Lane
O functions seems unproblematic, but I'm not very sure what else is. regards, tom lane

Re: Rename a column if not already renamed.?

2019-08-20 Thread Tom Lane
is happening. regards, tom lane

Re: Retroactively adding send and recv functions to a type?

2019-08-21 Thread Tom Lane
created the two functions manually rather than inside an extension update script, so they're not known to be part of the extension. You could experiment with ALTER EXTENSION ADD to see if this output changes when they are part of the extension. (But you don't need ALTER EXTENSION ADD when you create them in an update script.) regards, tom lane

Re: database files are incompatible with server

2019-08-22 Thread Tom Lane
6548c9311b5777bf1f;hb=0ab7110bcbcce5ff58afb32e7871c54e87502139 FWIW, if you have both beta2 and beta3 executables at hand, it should work to do a pg_upgrade to convert the cluster to beta3. regards, tom lane

Re: timestamp out of range while casting return value to function's return type

2019-08-23 Thread Tom Lane
pends on your timezone setting. It would be considered in-range in UTC+1 or further east (so that the date wraps back to 294276AD); in or west of Greenwich, not so much. > I tried to return a timestamp of the year 2000 to no avail. Hardly ... regards, tom lane

Re: What is the difference between creating a type, and a domain ?

2019-08-25 Thread Tom Lane
stan writes: > Subject basically says it all. A domain is a kind of type ... but it's not the only kind of type. https://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/domains.html regards, tom lane

Re: For SELECT statement (just a reading one, no 'FOR UPDATE'), is COMMIT or ROLLBACK preferred?

2019-08-25 Thread Tom Lane
d no side-effects but actually it did (maybe it called a volatile function that did something), would you want those effects to be persisted or not? regards, tom lane

Re: flinfo NULL in DirectFunctionCall callee?

2019-08-26 Thread Tom Lane
info() or a sibling to fill in the FmgrInfo. regards, tom lane

Re: flinfo NULL in DirectFunctionCall callee?

2019-08-26 Thread Tom Lane
Paul A Jungwirth writes: > On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 8:12 AM Tom Lane wrote: >> Yes, per the comment on those functions: >> * These are for invocation of a specifically named function with a >> * directly-computed parameter list. Note that neither arguments nor result >&g

Re: No warning/error trying to vacuum other session's temp table

2019-08-27 Thread Tom Lane
re we do know that. On the other hand, nobody has ever complained about this before. regards, tom lane

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2019-08-28 Thread Tom Lane
P-keepalive settings. regards, tom lane

Re: How to log 'user time' in postgres logs

2019-08-28 Thread Tom Lane
server can tell. Perhaps there's monstrous network delays involved, but what I'm suspicious of is inefficient client-side processing. regards, tom lane

Re: How to log 'user time' in postgres logs

2019-08-28 Thread Tom Lane
Hmm ... some weird DNS behavior, perhaps? That is one way to explain a pattern like this. How long does it take to "dig" or "nslookup" your server name? regards, tom lane

Re: implicit transaction changes trigger behaviour

2019-08-29 Thread Tom Lane
in that the comments claim it has something to do with the OLD row's id field(s) but the query is not in fact taking that into account. regards, tom lane

Re: Exclusion constraints on overlapping text arrays?

2019-08-30 Thread Tom Lane
n > these constraints? As far as that goes, you'd just need to add parentheses. regards, tom lane

Re: Escape parentheses in aggregate function

2019-08-30 Thread Tom Lane
al example: > \copy(select count_value, sum(count_value) > from table_name) to 'output_file.txt'; I think your problem is the line break, not the parentheses. psql knows how to count parens, but it has no concept of letting backslash commands continue across lines. regards, tom lane

Re: Escape parentheses in aggregate function

2019-08-30 Thread Tom Lane
Rich Shepard writes: > On Fri, 30 Aug 2019, Tom Lane wrote: >> I think your problem is the line break, not the parentheses. psql knows >> how to count parens, but it has no concept of letting backslash commands >> continue across lines. > Interesting. I've adopted se

Re: Returning a table from a function, that requires multiple selects?

2019-08-30 Thread Tom Lane
urn a declared composite type. Something like CREATE TYPE two_dates AS (start date, stop date); CREATE FUNCTION f(...) RETURNS two_dates AS ...; SELECT * FROM f(...); regards, tom lane

Re: Problems with using function input paramaters

2019-08-31 Thread Tom Lane
thmetic, like this: $1 * '1 month'::interval - '1 day'::interval It's faster (not enormously so, but measurably) thanks to not having to construct and then parse a text string. To my mind it's easier to reason about, too, and a bit safer. regards, tom lane

Re: Question about password character in ECPG's connection string

2019-08-31 Thread Tom Lane
. If we introduced URI-style escaping, we'd just make the problem of funny characters worse, because then '%' would also become magic. An alternative that doesn't risk breaking cases that work today is to say that you can write '&&' to mean a literal '&', but that seems kind of icky; there's nothing else that does that. On the whole I'm content with the way the code works now, but we do need to document it. regards, tom lane

Re: Unexpected "canceling statement due to user request" error

2019-09-01 Thread Tom Lane
ECK_FOR_INTERRUPTS call before terminating. Perhaps there's someplace we need to sprinkle a few more of those. regards, tom lane diff --git a/src/backend/executor/nodeResult.c b/src/backend/executor/nodeResult.c index 80ed9cc..d09ac95 100644 --- a/src/backend/executor/

Re: Unexpected "canceling statement due to user request" error

2019-09-01 Thread Tom Lane
Will Storey writes: > On Sun 2019-09-01 19:46:19 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: >> A separate question is how come the particular query you're complaining >> about has (seemingly) a fairly wide window where it never does any >> CHECK_FOR_INTERRUPTS call before terminating.

Re: partition by range or by list constraint check (was Re: literal vs dynamic partition constraint in plan execution)

2019-09-02 Thread Tom Lane
the values specified in the LIST clause, not values that perhaps could be shown to be related to those values given extensive knowledge about the behaviors of certain functions. By and large, the system doesn't have such knowledge. regards, tom lane

Re: Slow statement using parallelism after 9.6>11 upgrade

2019-09-03 Thread Tom Lane
gt; Bitmap Index Scan on planet_osm_ways_nodes_idx > (cost=0.00..11190.36 rows=1420982 width=0) (actual time=0.268..0.268 > rows=1 loops=1) > Index Cond: (nodes && '{1}'::bigint[]) The planner should be able to do better than that, given up-to-date statistics on the "nodes" column. regards, tom lane

Re: Running a Simple Update Statement Fails, Second Time Suceeds.

2019-09-03 Thread Tom Lane
e sender immediately. Thank you. I rather wonder whether I'm even allowed to read this, let alone answer it. You do realize that this sort of add-on is completely silly on a public mailing list? regards, tom lane

Re: killing vacuum analyze process

2019-09-03 Thread Tom Lane
becomes likely, and a postmaster restart is indicated. BTW, you really ought to be running something newer than 9.6.2. regards, tom lane

Re: killing vacuum analyze process

2019-09-03 Thread Tom Lane
ot a lock on the table the VACUUM is trying to process. The hypothetical offender is probably somewhat old, or you'd not have noticed the blockage, but we don't have any clear evidence as to how old. regards, tom lane

Re: Running a Simple Update Statement Fails, Second Time Suceeds.

2019-09-04 Thread Tom Lane
le altogether. Is there any part of your workflow that redefines the type of product_owner.external_sys_class_code_pres.audit_update_dt or product_owner.external_sys_class_code_pres ? Also, you still didn't tell us the server's version. regards, tom lane

Re: Rebuild pg_toast from scratch?

2019-09-05 Thread Tom Lane
eed to recreate an empty copy of this table (data can be > recovered later), how can I achieve this? TRUNCATE ought to be enough. regards, tom lane

Re: Cannot restore dump when using IS DISTINCT FROM on a HSTORE column

2019-09-05 Thread Tom Lane
hing's been done about that either. Disclaimer: in principle, doing this leaves you open to SQL-injection-like attacks during the restore, if some malicious user has had access to either the original source database or your restore target DB. That's why we put in the search_path restriction. But it doesn't help to be secure if you can't get your work done ... regards, tom lane

Re: postgresql: Help with hstore hextension

2019-09-05 Thread Tom Lane
tree, you'll have to recreate it --- be careful to give the same configure arguments as you used before. regards, tom lane

Re: Rebuild pg_toast from scratch?

2019-09-05 Thread Tom Lane
Moreno Andreo writes: > Il 05/09/19 15:53, Tom Lane ha scritto: >> TRUNCATE ought to be enough. > ... or do I need to truncate the "master" table (the table blobs are in)? Yeah, that one. regards, tom lane

Re: Whan is it safe to mark a function PARALLEL SAFE?

2019-09-08 Thread Tom Lane
e the optimizer making invalid assumptions. AFAIK "parallel safe" and "non-volatile" are more or less independent restrictions, though someone might correct me. A function that writes to the DB must be considered both volatile and parallel unsafe, but if it doesn't do that then I think it could have any combination of these properties. regards, tom lane

Re: help formualting a query

2019-09-08 Thread Tom Lane
; min(star date) and max(end date) for ALL the records for that given > project. Maybe I'm misunderstanding something, but isn't this just select project_key, min(start_date), max(end_date) from my_table group by project_key ?? regards, tom lane

Re: floating point output

2019-09-08 Thread Tom Lane
. It's unlikely anybody will entertain an argument to undo it, though, because (a) Ryu is faster than the old code, and (b) it's hard to argue against ensuring that output/input preserves values. You might consider using type "numeric" if you find truncation of low-order zeroes undesirable. regards, tom lane

Re: Permissions on postgresql.conf, psql and patroni

2019-09-09 Thread Tom Lane
ling with a wrapper that is trying to figure out which version of psql to invoke. regards, tom lane

Re: database "cdf_100_1313" does not exist

2019-09-09 Thread Tom Lane
ly. It's tricky since double-quote is special to both the shell and SQL. You need something like /usr/lib/postgresql/11/bin/psql -p 5432 -U postgres -d "$DBLIST" -c "GRANT CONNECT ON DATABASE \"$DBLIST\" TO cpupdate" regards, tom lane

Re: Issues with inconsistent COLLATION installation

2019-09-09 Thread Tom Lane
a says "utf8". It's not apparent to me what relation that might have to your observed problem, but it suggests that this cluster doesn't exactly have a pristine history. Did you perhaps try to move the data files from one platform to another? regards, tom lane

Re: Issues with inconsistent COLLATION installation

2019-09-09 Thread Tom Lane
lable locales ... and there's no logic to flush it if /usr/share/locale changes. The individual backends are probably inheriting the cache state via fork from the postmaster. regards, tom lane

Re: pg full text search very slow for Chinese characters

2019-09-10 Thread Tom Lane
n't know of any comparable issue in the core tsvector logic, though. The numbers you're quoting do sound quite awful, but I share Cory's suspicion that it's something about your setup rather than an inherent Postgres issue. regards, tom lane

Re: Running a Simple Update Statement Fails, Second Time Suceeds.

2019-09-11 Thread Tom Lane
"Kumar, Virendra" writes: > Just got confirmation from developer that they are not modifying any type. > We are on 11.5 RHEL. Interesting. Can you exhibit a self-contained test case? regards, tom lane

Re: REVOKE DROP rights

2019-09-11 Thread Tom Lane
ult by dropping the whole schema or database. But merely having create privilege doesn't extend to that. So basically you want a shared schema that is owned by some trusted role, and your less-trusted roles have create (and usage!) on that schema. regards, tom lane

Re: update returning order by syntax error question

2019-09-12 Thread Tom Lane
uot; does not exist LINE 1: select * from (update t cross join update t2); ^ regards, tom lane

Re: update returning order by syntax error question

2019-09-12 Thread Tom Lane
Adrian Klaver writes: > On 9/12/19 6:44 AM, Tom Lane wrote: >> No, it's *exactly* as if that. UPDATE is an unreserved >> keyword so it's fully legitimate as a table name. > I am not following. Sure, the WITH thing works too. The point is that given "SELECT .

Re: Strange Behaviour with multicolumn indexes

2019-09-12 Thread Tom Lane
ount for accurately. Anyway I can't get excited about optimizing for a single non-null value. regards, tom lane

Re: PG SQL and LIKE clause

2019-09-13 Thread Tom Lane
mplicated than cases like it-must-be-a-2-character-state-abbreviation. You can use varchar(n) if you must have an upper limit on the field length. Or text. regards, tom lane

Re: PANIC: could not write to file "pg_wal/xlogtemp.11399": No space left on device

2019-09-13 Thread Tom Lane
No, that's unsurprising given that you did a forced shutdown while recovery from the initial crash was still running. The HINT is probably not terribly well worded; it really only applies if recovery crashed, which doesn't seem to be the case here. regards, tom lane

Re: Cascade Trigger Not Firing

2019-09-13 Thread Tom Lane
rs did or might do --- you'd soon end up with circularities. regards, tom lane

Re: Cascade Trigger Not Firing

2019-09-13 Thread Tom Lane
lunch, especially if you don't trust your other triggers. (Although, if you have so many triggers that that's a problem, I think you might have some other design issues.) regards, tom lane

Re: Cascade Trigger Not Firing

2019-09-14 Thread Tom Lane
ic enough --- it is carefully *not* saying that the trigger will fire if the column changes value. The CREATE TRIGGER man page never says that, either. regards, tom lane

Re: FW: Re: FW: Re: Shouldn;t this trigger be called?

2019-09-15 Thread Tom Lane
ou might try preprocessing the data file before feeding it to COPY. Another way is to copy into a temporary table that has very lax column data types (all "text", perhaps) and then transform the data using INSERT ... SELECT from the temp table to the final storage table. regards, tom lane

Re: pldbgapi extension

2019-09-17 Thread Tom Lane
the PGXS infrastructure should get this right for you, but maybe it isn't, or you missed out using it. regards, tom lane

Re: When does Postgres use binary I/O?

2019-09-18 Thread Tom Lane
do see a small test in src/test/regress/input/misc.source (COPY BINARY stud_emp), but that solution doesn't scale easily because of its dependence on absolute file pathnames. regards, tom lane

Re: postgres 9.6: insert into select finishes only in pgadmin not psql

2019-09-18 Thread Tom Lane
path. You could try doing EXPLAIN rather than running the query outright, too, to see if you get identical plans. (Although if the performance issue is down inside the function, that might not help much.) regards, tom lane

Re: When does Postgres use binary I/O?

2019-09-18 Thread Tom Lane
Paul Jungwirth writes: > On 9/18/19 7:26 AM, Tom Lane wrote: >> Likely it'd be good to have some more consistent approach to >> testing that ... right now it's not even very obvious where >> is a good place to add such tests. I do see a small test in >> src

Re: PGPASSWORD in crypted form, for example BlowFish or SHA-256

2019-09-19 Thread Tom Lane
it is already about as secure as what you're doing now. If you want to jump through extra hoops for more security, I think you can use ssh-agent to hold the keys. regards, tom lane

Re: n_live_tup count increase after vacuum

2019-09-19 Thread Tom Lane
ing > thing > The number of "live " tuples went up..(?) If you're looking at the pg_stat counter, that's only an approximation. It's probably a better approximation now than it was before. regards, tom lane

Re: is it safe to drop 25 tb schema with cascade option?

2019-09-19 Thread Tom Lane
um then it's likely that they are all old. Do NOT NOT NOT use VACUUM FULL here. It will not make things any better than a plain VACUUM, and it will take a lot longer ... time you maybe haven't got. regards, tom lane

Re: is it safe to drop 25 tb schema with cascade option?

2019-09-19 Thread Tom Lane
would be a win. regards, tom lane

Re: Web users as database users?

2019-09-20 Thread Tom Lane
formance will get bad if the ACL list gets too large. However, you can add lots of users to any group role. So put the users into appropriate group(s) and issue database permissions on the group level. regards, tom lane

Re: citext, actually probably using extensions

2019-09-20 Thread Tom Lane
language > (1 row) > It does not. Judging from the prompts you show, you installed the extension in the "postgres" database, but you need it in the "stan" database. regards, tom lane

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