Re: Language RFC Summary 4th August 2000

2000-08-09 Thread Nick Ing-Simmons
Dan Sugalski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >At 11:40 AM 8/5/00 +, Nick Ing-Simmons wrote: >>Damian Conway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> > > It definitely is, since formats do things that can't be done in >> modules. >> > >> >Such as??? >> >>Quite. >> >>Even in perl5 an XS module can do _anyt

Re: Language RFC Summary 4th August 2000

2000-08-07 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 12:04 AM 8/7/00 +0200, Bart Lateur wrote: >On Sun, 06 Aug 2000 01:38:13 -0400, Dan Sugalski wrote: > > >>Even in perl5 an XS module can do _anything at all_. > > > >It can't access data the lexer's already tossed out. That's where the > >current format format (so to speak) runs you into trouble

Re: Language RFC Summary 4th August 2000

2000-08-06 Thread Bart Lateur
On Sun, 06 Aug 2000 01:38:13 -0400, Dan Sugalski wrote: >>Even in perl5 an XS module can do _anything at all_. > >It can't access data the lexer's already tossed out. That's where the >current format format (so to speak) runs you into trouble. Only if you insist on the identical syntax as it ha

Re: Language RFC Summary 4th August 2000

2000-08-05 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 11:40 AM 8/5/00 +, Nick Ing-Simmons wrote: >Damian Conway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > It definitely is, since formats do things that can't be done in > modules. > > > >Such as??? > >Quite. > >Even in perl5 an XS module can do _anything at all_. It can't access data the lexer's alr

Re: Language RFC Summary 4th August 2000

2000-08-05 Thread Nick Ing-Simmons
Damian Conway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > It definitely is, since formats do things that can't be done in modules. > >Such as??? Quite. Even in perl5 an XS module can do _anything at all_. -- Nick Ing-Simmons

Re: Language RFC Summary 4th August 2000

2000-08-04 Thread Steve Simmons
On Fri, Aug 04, 2000 at 03:37:08PM +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > 1. put their hands up to write the "up for grabs" RFCs > 2. work towards getting the "requested/promised" and "draft" RFCs up to >the point where they can be submitted to the librarian. > 3. let me know if you think an RFC

Re: Language RFC Summary 4th August 2000

2000-08-04 Thread Damian Conway
> What I'm planning to RFC is a simple format() built-in (probably > in a pragma) very similar to the form() subroutine described in: http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/~damian/TPC/2000/Autoformat/paper.html Damian

Re: Language RFC Summary 4th August 2000

2000-08-04 Thread Damian Conway
> >> It definitely is, since formats do things that can't be done in modules. > > > >Such as??? > > Well, the easy binding of variables for later use. When one declares a > format, variables in it are saved for later use without needing refs. > Formats are sort of like

Re: Language RFC Summary 4th August 2000

2000-08-04 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 04:00 AM 8/5/00 +1000, Damian Conway wrote: >> It definitely is, since formats do things that can't be done in modules. > >Such as??? Well, the easy binding of variables for later use. When one declares a format, variables in it are saved for later use without needing refs. Formats are s

Re: Language RFC Summary 4th August 2000

2000-08-04 Thread Damian Conway
> It definitely is, since formats do things that can't be done in modules. Such as??? > If they yank formats out (which is just dandy by me) that means > that some means of providing format's functionality needs has to > be designed in. I'm working on it. Damian

Re: Language RFC Summary 4th August 2000

2000-08-04 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 08:41 AM 8/4/00 -0400, Bryan C. Warnock wrote: >On Fri, 04 Aug 2000, Uri Guttman wrote: > > > "s" == skud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > s> Up for grabs: > > s> - > > s> Formats out of core > > > >Somehow, I missed this message. > >I don't think that's a language iss

Re: Language RFC Summary 4th August 2000

2000-08-04 Thread Chaim Frenkel
> "BCW" == Bryan C Warnock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: BCW> On Fri, 04 Aug 2000, Uri Guttman wrote: >> > "s" == skud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> s> Up for grabs: s> - s> Formats out of core >> BCW> Somehow, I missed this message. BCW> I don't think that's a language is

Re: Language RFC Summary 4th August 2000

2000-08-04 Thread Bryan C . Warnock
On Fri, 04 Aug 2000, Uri Guttman wrote: > > "s" == skud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > s> Up for grabs: > s> - > s> Formats out of core > Somehow, I missed this message. I don't think that's a language issue. Whether Perl continues to support formats certainly is, but

Re: Language RFC Summary 4th August 2000

2000-08-03 Thread Nathan Wiger
> 1. put their hands up to write the "up for grabs" RFCs I'll grab: unlink() renamed I believe the "Renaming line noise" one is already covered in RFC 17. The localtime() one's still coming, I promise! It'll be good (I hope), lots of great input. > I'm *very* close to suggesting a "strict"

Re: Language RFC Summary 4th August 2000

2000-08-03 Thread Uri Guttman
> "s" == skud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: s> 1. put their hands up to write the "up for grabs" RFCs i am working on one for flow control (event loops, threads, signals). i should have a draft by this weekend. put it in the list of promised RFCs. s> 3. let me know if you think an RFC ne