Hi everyone,
I am working with perl 5.8 at the moment after developping web apps in PHP.
I know that perl doesn't only focus on web apps and my question might
seem irrelevant
but I've been searching the web in order to find the new features of
perl6 regarding
new functions, core module lists
ully "CGI done
right", and still in its early planning stage.
Web module is a good name.
Is there a place where we can add suggestions ? apart from the first one in...
2003 ? 4 years ago ?
Moritz Lenz wrote:
cdumont wrote:
I know that perl doesn't only focus on web apps and my
if there can be ways of improvement for perl6 doc.
Moritz Lenz wrote:
A: because it disrupts the natural way of thinking.
Q: Why is top posting frowned upon?
cdumont wrote:
Perl 6 is not yet finished, so the the list of core modules is not yet
specified.
I know that it is somehow not the
Getting back to the Web Module,
the following could help a lot
if there were in the core or as a 'core' downloadable bundle :
- DBI
- ORM system
- Caching system
- Sessions (server side cookies)
- XML parser
- JSON parser
I guess that it will be fair enough for actual web apps.
templating system
I guess what should be in the core or not is not something
that should not be debated here.
In fact, perl 6 is supposed to be the *community language*
so instead of saying 'I' use this one but don't use this one,
so I don't see why it should be implemented into perl,
the *community* should decide
>>A programming language is made by humans and subject to the same evolutions
>>and bugs and in the end is alive and will die.
>>A programming language should evoluate, try to respond quickly to the
>>actual environment in order to survive or expand.
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>
>Have you *seen* how much time p5p
I found some of the perl 6 new features really neat:
- creating your own type
- type casting
- junctions
- multidispatch
- :r:w:a shortcuts
- hyper operators
- some kind of oop keywords
But there are some changes in the grammar which
benefits aren't that obvious :
1- $str1 ~ $str2
2- $life = (!
Moritz Lenz wrote:
cdumont wrote:
1- $str1 ~ $str2
The '+' suggests numerical addition (and requires disambiguation in the
case of $str + $number - should $str be interpreted as a number, or
$number as a string?).
The . is already taken by method calls (used far more ofte
Smylers wrote:
cdumont writes:
there are some changes in the grammar which benefits aren't that
obvious :
Hi there. For some of these the benefit is indirect: it isn't that it
makes the feature in question easier to use; instead it enables _other_
features.
1- $str1
Patrick R. Michaud wrote:
On Mon, Dec 03, 2007 at 12:20:02PM +, Smylers wrote:
cdumont writes:
I don't really think using the column in a ternary means that you
cannot use it else where.
We started off with that, and it was changed specifically because it was
caus
Smylers wrote:
cdumont writes:
Smylers wrote:
cdumont writes:
The given ... when doesn't seem to bring that much from switch ...
case given ...
Surely it brings all of it? Plus much more as well. Much of the
power is in the smart-matching, which enables
Larry Wall wrote:
>On Mon, Dec 03, 2007 at 07:30:53PM +0900, cdumont wrote:
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>>Moritz Lenz wrote:
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>>>cdumont wrote:
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>>>>1- $str1 ~ $str2
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pe moves to php at each upgrade)
cdumont wrote:
Patrick R. Michaud wrote:
On Mon, Dec 03, 2007 at 12:20:02PM +, Smylers wrote:
cdumont writes:
I don't really think using the column in a ternary means that you
cannot use it else where.
We started off with that
Trey Harris wrote:
In a message dated Tue, 4 Dec 2007, cdumont writes:
oh, it might not be relevant in many ways but :
http://iamseb.com/seb/2007/12/perl-on-rails-why-the-bbc-fails-at-the-internet/
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/radiolabs/2007/11/perl_on_rails.shtml
There's one th
Darren Duncan wrote:
At 2:51 PM +0900 12/4/07, cdumont wrote:
Sorry.
Where can I find a mailing list that is about Perl 6 in general then?
Thank you.
I would recommend that [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the best place to talk
about these things, out of the official Perl 6 lists that I know of
Trey Harris wrote:
The very notions of "enterprise" use and "open source" use and "web"
use are so amorphous that it is hard to imagine core language
features that would foster or discourage them. A language is an
ecosystem, and it's hard to argue that Perl has done poorly in any of
the thr
Jonathan Lang wrote:
Another thing to note about given ... when: you don't have to use them
together. All that "given" does is to set $_ to the variable
provided; this can be used in a manner similar to "with" statements in
other languages. And "when" doesn't have to be inside a "given"
block,
Miroslav Silovic wrote:
>cdumont wrote:
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>>In japanese it could even be :
>>
>>wa {
>> '' no baai ni { ... }
>>}
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>>Getting rid off the thema or I guess here taking $_
Larry Wall wrote:
Now, it might well be that a Perl standards body could specify a
mininum suggested set of modules for any distribution to enhance
interoperability, but we haven't got to that point yet, I don't think.
This would be great though!!
Even if it is afterward, it is still a lot b
Richard Hainsworth wrote:
I don't know why, this given... when sounds so 'English' without
really being that
English.
The construct sounds better in English than ... case ...> because:
a) Switch is more commonly used in English as a noun, eg., Use the
switch to turn on the light. But beca
herbert breunung wrote:
Mark J. Reed wrote:
I do think It Would Be Nice If there were a native Perl6
DRY/MVC/OMG/WTF/BBQ webapp dev framework ready to go (go where? into a
webapp-oriented P6 distro, natch) around the same time that the lang
itself is done.
I imagine a port of Catalyst would fi
ispyhumanfly wrote:
Hello list,
I've created a group on www.hiveminder.org for Perl6 collaborative
task tracking and management. I've done some thinking and I've come
up with a way in which I would like to maintain this group, its
organizers and its members.
Organizers ( moderators ) -
Hi
I assume that BDD(Behavior Driven Development) and the vocabulary that
it implies is not a good choice
at this stage ?
:describe("");
$x.should be(1e5) :it("");
and that a module based on the core testing facilities can be built if
someone feels like to.
Well, the vocabulary that i
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