Re: Hyphens vs. Underscores

es or says. Looking for some_code_like_this() in a place that uses some-code-like-this() might be troublesome. - sebastian On 11/16/05, Daniel Brockman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm not a Lisp weenie. However, I have always preferred > hyphens over underscores, and I

Re: handling undef better

too. Something like this might translate into executing the sub in a try/catch such that if the undef error occurs, undef is returned - sebastian On 12/16/05, Darren Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Something else I've been thinking about, as a tangent to the > relational da

Re: handling undef better

s (something) to to define the behavior of all undefs declared within the given scope. Since each undef is a magic object, it doesn't lose its effect when undef variables are passed to methods enforcing different undef behaviors because it carries the behavior from whence it was defined. On 12

Re: handling undef better

a win-win. - sebastian On 12/17/05, Uri Guttman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>>>> "LP" == Luke Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > LP> Actually, you can think of undef pretty much as defining > LP> autovivification. "If you use it a

Re: $1,000 prize for Perl 6 Wiki written in Perl 6

27;m no [at]larry, but I'd like to see something that is lightweight and flexible in design. my 2ct, Sebastian S > > Regards, > -- > Aristotle Pagaltzis // <http://plasmasturm.org/> -- [URL: http://web.expr42.net/] [Unique ID: Sun May 28 23:23:17 CEST 2006 (36)]

Re: new sigil

> Please let that the sigil looks like a certain leter not be a reason. > > > Juerd They make for good mnemonics, which isn't necessarily a bad thing for people coming from languages without them or with fewer - sebastian

Re: $_ defaulting for mutating ops

> I think it'd be great if +=, ~=, +&=, ++, etc, could all assume $_ on > their LHS when there is no obvious operand. It'd be nice to have these, but is it something that can wait? I wouldn't mind if more effort was spent on other pieces if this can be easily done in the future - sebastian

Re: Perl6 perlplexities [was: "Re: $1 change issues..."]

ty, et al). As long as p6 isn't taking away from any of the functionality or DWIMery I won't have any objections - Sebastian

Missing files

igure again. -- Sebastian Bergmann http://sebastian-bergmann.de/ http://phpOpenTracker.de/ Did I help you? Consider a gift: http://wishlist.sebastian-bergmann.de/

Re: Parrot and Mono / .Net (warning: long)

Melvin Smith wrote: > I hope this blabbering helps you with a few ideas. Thank you for your elaboration, Melvin. -- Sebastian Bergmann http://sebastian-bergmann.de/ http://phpOpenTracker.de/ Did I help you? Consider a gift: http://wishlist.sebastian-bergmann.de/

'make languages' broken

ied inc_p_ic, inc_i, inc_n, inc_p, inc _n_i, inc_p_i, inc_n_ic, inc_i_ic, inc_i_i) in make[2]: *** [leibniz.pbc] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/parrot/languages/jako' make[1]: *** [jako.dummy] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/parrot/languages' m

Re: New Assembler for your perusal

m line 45. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at ./newasm line 45. -- Sebastian Bergmann http://sebastian-bergmann.de/ http://phpOpenTracker.de/ Did I help you? Consider a gift: http://wishlist.sebastian-bergmann.de/

lib/Parrot/Types.pm deleted

lib/Parrot/Types.pm is deleted upon 'make realclean' and needs to be retrieved anew from CVS. -- Sebastian Bergmann http://sebastian-bergmann.de/ http://phpOpenTracker.de/ Did I help you? Consider a gift: http://wishlist.sebastian-bergmann.de/

Re: New Assembler for your perusal

"Clinton A. Pierce" wrote: > Go into lib/Parrot and perl Makfile.pl && make and then try it > again. Works okay for me. I supposed this would be triggered automatically by 'make' in /parrot. Thanks, Sebastian -- Sebastian Bergmann http://sebastian

Re: Parrot and Mono / .Net

Dan Sugalski wrote: > Cool. Can we have a URL when it's done? (An english translation'd be > keen too, but there's always BabelFish to mangle the heck out of it) Sure. Currently it looks like it'll be published August or September. -- Sebastian Bergmann ht

Win32 build broken

cd lib/Parrot && C:\Programme\Perl\bin\perl.exe Makefile.PL && NMAKE && cd .. Can't open perl script "Makefile.PL": No such file or directory NMAKE : fatal error U1077: 'cd' : Rueckgabe-Code '0x2' Stop. -- Sebastian Be

Re: Configure.pl 2.0. and win32

Nick Kostirya wrote: > Prior version ask me: what linker I want use. > This do not ask, and variable $ld is undefined (module > parrot/lib/Parrot/Configure/Step.pm, sub cc_build). Have you tried configure.pl --ask ? -- Sebastian Bergmann http://sebastian-be

Re: cvs.perl.org moved

nse) :) Have you had a look at CHORA [1]? It is IMHO the best web frontend for CVS. -- [1] http://www.horde.org/chora/ -- Sebastian Bergmann http://sebastian-bergmann.de/ http://phpOpenTracker.de/ Did I help you? Consider a gift: http://wishlist.sebastian-bergmann.de/

[Win32] jit.c broken

von 'Parrot_jit_optimizer _section' NMAKE : fatal error U1077: 'cl' : Rueckgabe-Code '0x2' Stop. -- Sebastian Bergmann http://sebastian-bergmann.de/ http://phpOpenTracker.de/ Did I help you? Consider a gift: http://wishlist.sebastian-bergmann.de/

Re: [Win32] jit.c broken

Daniel Grunblatt wrote: > That was me, going to fix, sorry. Thanks for the fix. -- Sebastian Bergmann http://sebastian-bergmann.de/ http://phpOpenTracker.de/ Did I help you? Consider a gift: http://wishlist.sebastian-bergmann.de/

[Win32] ./command does not work

For instance ./jakoc bench.jako > bench.pasm fails. -- Sebastian Bergmann http://sebastian-bergmann.de/ http://phpOpenTracker.de/ Did I help you? Consider a gift: http://wishlist.sebastian-bergmann.de/

Re: [netlabs #700] Win32 parrot.exe fails all tests

"Clinton A. Pierce (via RT)" wrote: > No warnings during compilation, no errors. > > The error reported for each test is: > > Parrot VM: Can't unpack packfile .pbc Same here (on Linux): http://www.sebastian-bergmann.de/stuff/parrot_test.txt -

Re: cvs commit: parrot/lib/Make CC_Obj.pm Dependency.pm Link_Obj.pm Perl_Obj.pm Target_Obj.pm

ine 11 BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at C:\home\parrot\make.pl line 11. -- Sebastian Bergmann http://sebastian-bergmann.de/ http://phpOpenTracker.de/ Did I help you? Consider a gift: http://wishlist.sebastian-bergmann.de/

Configure.pl doesn't work

--version gcc (GCC) 3.1 -- Sebastian Bergmann http://sebastian-bergmann.de/ http://phpOpenTracker.de/ Did I help you? Consider a gift: http://wishlist.sebastian-bergmann.de/

Re: Configure.pl doesn't work

Kevin Falcone wrote: > If you cat test.cco you may see something like "stdio.h can't find" > I just installed an alpha, and saw this same problem Just checked, it couldn't find cc. Made a symlink from gcc to cc and it works. -- Sebastian Bergmann ht

"make distclean"

Is it the intended behaviour of "make distclean" to delete all files under the CVS/ directories, thus rendering succeeding "cvs upd" calls impossible? -- Sebastian Bergmann http://sebastian-bergmann.de/ http://phpOpenTracker.de/ Das Buch zu PHP 5: h

Re: "make distclean"

Simon Glover wrote: > As I understand it, "make distclean" is what you would do before > packaging up Parrot for a public release, so, yes, it should nuke the > CVS and .cvsignore files. Okay, thanks for the info. -- Sebastian Bergmann http://sebastian-bergmann.de/

Can't build current CVS on Win32

LIB: fatal error LNK1181: Input file "jit_cpu.obj" can not be opened NMAKE: fatal error U1077: 'lib' : Return-Code '0x49d' Stop. -- Sebastian Bergmann http://sebastian-bergmann.de/ http://phpOpenTracker.de/ Das Buch zu PHP 5: http://prof

Re: Can't build current CVS on Win32

Vladimir Lipskiy wrote: > Run the Configure script with "--jitcapable=0 --execcapable=0" That helped, but shouldn't this be recognized by Configure.pl? -- Sebastian Bergmann http://sebastian-bergmann.de/ http://phpOpenTracker.de/ Das Buch zu PHP 5: htt

Re: Website maintainer needed!

with Robert and the appropriate access, and you can have at it. *chime* I could also sacrifice some time to that. Cheers, Sebastian

Re: What happened to

Dan Sugalski wrote: At 11:55 AM -0700 5/24/04, Joshua Gatcomb wrote: The FAQ at http://www.parrotcode.org That's a good question, and one worth poking around at. Volunteers? (Those things are autogenerated from files in the repository, so it's likely something broke there) Yes, it's a wrong url

Re: Benchmark Stuff

g run from examples/benchmark It is also a very quick hack because I was on my lunch break. Take a look at tools/dev/parrotbench.pl It already does most of the things you want, you just have to parse it's output and feed it to your database. Enjoy Joshua Gatcomb a.k.a. Limbic~Region Ch

Re: Towards 0.1.1 - timetable

Leopold Toetsch: > - nice release name wanted Firebird or Phoenix sebastian

Re: A Perl Task - Benchmarking

.908 3.440 - - stress3 19.050 - - - utf8 0.13 - - - vpm- 40.057 - - Cheers, Sebastian Leopold Toet

Re: A Perl Task - Benchmarking

Leopold Toetsch wrote: Sebastian Riedel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: objective-ook? - SCNR :) Attached is a quick'n dirty parrotbench, instead of a complicated test harness it uses bash to make time measurements, so that new languag

Re: A Perl Task - Benchmarking

Sebastian Riedel wrote: Leopold Toetsch wrote: Sebastian Riedel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: objective-ook? - SCNR :) Attached is a quick'n dirty parrotbench, instead of a complicated test harness it uses bash to make time measurements,

Re: A Perl Task - Benchmarking

Leopold Toetsch wrote: Sebastian Riedel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Sebastian Riedel wrote: The attached version should do most of the things you wanted. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/parrot$ tools/dev/parrotbench.pl -regex oo -conf ../parrotbench.conf parrot perlpython

Re: A Perl Task - Benchmarking

, Sebastian Riedel

Re: A Perl Task - Benchmarking

Dan Sugalski wrote: At 10:10 PM +0100 3/8/04, Sebastian Riedel wrote: Abhijit A. Mahabal wrote: A very basic newbeish question.. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/parrot$ tools/dev/parrotbench.pl -regex oo -conf ../parrotbench.conf parrot perlpython ruby oo1 100%39% 23% - oo2

Re: A Perl Task - Benchmarking

Leopold Toetsch wrote: Sebastian Riedel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The attached patch adds this, conf files now look so: parrot: /home/sri/parrot/parrot: .pasm .imc Good. ruby: /usr/bin/ruby: .rb python: /usr/bin/python: .py python-C: /usr/bin/python -

Re: [PATCH] Prettifying parrotbench output

#x27;d use that to improve portability, though I'm never sure how shell redirection breaks on weird platforms. -- c Thanks for the tip! Cheers, Sebastian

Re: [PATCH] Prettifying parrotbench output

like format? Luke leo Cheers, Sebastian

Building Parrot on Win32

.sebastian-bergmann.de/parrot_make.txt Thanks, Sebastian -- Sebastian Bergmann http://sebastian-bergmann.de/ http://phpOpenTracker.de/ Did I help you? Consider a gift: http://wishlist.sebastian-bergmann.de/

Re: Building Parrot on Win32

83: include file cannot be opened: 'parrot/vtable.h': No such file or directory -- Sebastian Bergmann http://sebastian-bergmann.de/ http://phpOpenTracker.de/ Did I help you? Consider a gift: http://wishlist.sebastian-bergmann.de/

Re: Building Parrot on Win32

"Gregor N. Purdy" wrote: > On that last call to nmake, if you get dropped back into Configure.pl, > something is wrong configure-wise. I did a fresh CVS checkout just now, and nmake calls Configure.pl again. -- Sebastian Bergmann http://sebastian-bergmann.de/

parrot/examples/mops/mops.php

In case you're interested (having Python, Ruby, ... around I thought you might be :-), here's a PHP version of the MOPS test. #!/usr/bin/php -- Sebastian Bergmann http://sebastian-bergmann.de/ http://phpOpenTracker.de/ Did I help you? Consider a

'nmake realclean' broken

C:\Programme\Perl\bin\perl.exe -MExtUtils::Command -e rm_f -r blib Unrecognized switch: -r (-h will show valid options). -- Sebastian Bergmann http://sebastian-bergmann.de/ http://phpOpenTracker.de/ Did I help you? Consider a gift: http://wishlist.sebastian-bergmann.de/

Re: Color codes in tinderbox

% okay. 1/249 subtests failed, 99.60% okay NMAKE : fatal error U1077: 'C:\Programme\Perl\bin\perl.exe': Return-Code '0xff' Stop. -- Sebastian Bergmann http://sebastian-bergmann.de/ http://phpOpenTracker.de/ Did I help you? Consider a gift: http://wishlist.sebastian-bergmann.de/

Re: 'nmake realclean' broken

Sebastian Bergmann wrote: > C:\Programme\Perl\bin\perl.exe -MExtUtils::Command -e rm_f -r blib > Unrecognized switch: -r (-h will show valid options). 'nmake clean' suffers from the same problem, I just noticed. -- Sebastian Bergmann http://sebastian-bergmann.de/

Re: Color codes in tinderbox

Sebastian Bergmann wrote: > and then test_parrot.exe crashes. By the way: How do I build a debug version of Parrot, so that I could provide a stacktrace? Using MSVC's debugger with the test_parrot.exe that nmake produces unusable results, because no debugging information i

Re: Color codes in tinderbox

Simon Cozens wrote: > You'll kick yourself. > > perl Configure.pl -debugging perl Configure.pl --debugging seems to have no effect on Win32, as of now. -- Sebastian Bergmann http://sebastian-bergmann.de/ http://phpOpenTracker.de/ Did I help y

Re: Color codes in tinderbox (All tests pass!!!)

"Sterin, Ilya" wrote: > Mine pass fine... Current CVS, same crash: http://www.sebastian-bergmann.de/parrot.txt -- Sebastian Bergmann http://sebastian-bergmann.de/ http://phpOpenTracker.de/ Did I help you? Consider a gift: http://wishlist.sebastian-bergmann.de/

Re: Color codes in tinderbox (All tests pass!!!)

ags=' ', lddlflags='-dll -nologo -nodefaultlib -release -libpath:"C: \Programme\Perl\lib\CORE" -machine:x86' Characteristics of this binary (from libperl): Compile-time options: MULTIPLICITY USE_ITHREADS PERL_IMPLICIT_CONTEXT PERL_IMP LICIT_SYS Locally applied patch

Re: [PATCH] clean on Win32.

Jason Diamond wrote: > The attached files fix the 'nmake clean' problems on Win32 Works, thanks a bunch. -- Sebastian Bergmann http://sebastian-bergmann.de/ http://phpOpenTracker.de/ Did I help you? Consider a gift: http://wishlist.sebastian-bergmann.de/

.cvsignore

little_languages cvs server: Updating platforms cvs server: Updating t cvs server: Updating t/op -- Sebastian Bergmann http://sebastian-bergmann.de/ http://phpOpenTracker.de/ Did I help you? Consider a gift: http://wishlist.sebastian-bergmann.de/

Current Makefile.pl fails on Win32

this could take a while): test_gnuc.c LINK : fatal error LNK1149: Output filename identical to input filename "C:\home\parrot\test_siz.exe" identical C compiler died! at configure.pl line 696. -- Sebastian Bergmann http://sebastian-bergmann.de/ http://phpOpenTracker.de/ Did

Re: Current Makefile.pl fails on Win32

Dan Sugalski wrote: > Gah. Visual studio, right? Right. -- Sebastian Bergmann http://sebastian-bergmann.de/ http://phpOpenTracker.de/ Did I help you? Consider a gift: http://wishlist.sebastian-bergmann.de/

Re: Current Makefile.pl fails on Win32

27;ll wedge it in myself as > best I can. Sorry, I currently don't have time to look at this. Gotta run... -- Sebastian Bergmann http://sebastian-bergmann.de/ http://phpOpenTracker.de/ Did I help you? Consider a gift: http://wishlist.sebastian-bergmann.de/

'nmake test' still not successfull on Win32

Just to let you guys know, 'nmake test' still causes a crash in test t/op/pmc:44 here on Win32. Details at http://www.sebastian-bergmann.de/parrot.txt -- Sebastian Bergmann http://sebastian-bergmann.de/ http://phpOpenTracker.de/ Did I help you? Consi

Re: New benchmark

, Python, Ruby, ..? -- Sebastian Bergmann http://sebastian-bergmann.de/ http://phpOpenTracker.de/ Did I help you? Consider a gift: http://wishlist.sebastian-bergmann.de/

Re: Perl6/Parrot status

many ways of doing things. How can anyone ever > figure out which one to use?'" > > =cut Is this for real? I can't really believe this... -- Sebastian Bergmann http://sebastian-bergmann.de/ http://phpOpenTracker.de/ Did I help you? Consider a gift: http://wishlist.sebastian-bergmann.de/

Re: Perl6/Parrot status

Jason Gloudon wrote: > In case everyone is not familiar with the easter bunny concept, this > is a joke. :-) -- Sebastian Bergmann http://sebastian-bergmann.de/ http://phpOpenTracker.de/ Did I help you? Consider a gift: http://wishlist.sebastian-bergmann.de/

Current CVS on Win32

... does not compile, see http://www.sebastian-bergmann.de/configure.txt http://www.sebastian-bergmann.de/nmake.txt -- Sebastian Bergmann http://sebastian-bergmann.de/ http://phpOpenTracker.de/ Did I help you? Consider a gift: http://wishlist.sebastian

Re: Current CVS on Win32

Simon Cozens wrote: > Sebastian Bergmann: >> http://www.sebastian-bergmann.de/nmake.txt > Please check out the patch from Daniel Ritz a few days ago. Sorry, I don't have this patch. Can someone send it to me? Thanks! -- Sebastian Bergmann http://seba

Re: Current CVS on Win32

Dan Sugalski wrote: > I just committed it to CVS. Sync up and give it another shot. Compiles fine now, thanks. -- Sebastian Bergmann http://sebastian-bergmann.de/ http://phpOpenTracker.de/ Did I help you? Consider a gift: http://wishlist.sebastian-bergmann.de/

Compiling Parrot with MS VS.Net

nd was 'cl -nologo -O1 -MD -DNDEBUG -DWIN32 -D_CONSOLE -D NO_STRICT -DHAVE_DES_FCRYPT -DPERL_IMPLICIT_CONTEXT -DPERL_IMPLICIT_SYS -DPERL_ MSVCRT_READFIX -I./include -c -out:test_gnuc.obj test_gnuc.c' -- Sebastian Bergmann http://sebastian-bergmann.de/ http://phpOpe

Re: Gentlemen, test your builds

d without initilaization... -- Sebastian Bergmann http://sebastian-bergmann.de/ http://phpOpenTracker.de/ Did I help you? Consider a gift: http://wishlist.sebastian-bergmann.de/

Re: [COMMIT] Configure.pl 2.0

NMAKE : fatal error U1073: 'config_h.in' konnte nicht erstellt werden Stop. Which means that 'config_h.in' could not be created. -- Sebastian Bergmann http://sebastian-bergmann.de/ http://phpOpenTracker.de/ Did I help you? Consider a gift: http://wishlist.sebastian-bergmann.de/

Parrot and Mono / .Net

and the .Net concept. Thanks, Sebastian -- Sebastian Bergmann http://sebastian-bergmann.de/ http://phpOpenTracker.de/ Did I help you? Consider a gift: http://wishlist.sebastian-bergmann.de/

Re: Parrot and Mono / .Net

allow for plugable parser, compilers, bytecode generators / optimizers, ... Thanks, Sebastian -- Sebastian Bergmann http://sebastian-bergmann.de/ http://phpOpenTracker.de/ Did I help you? Consider a gift: http://wishlist.sebastian-bergmann.de/

wxWidgets nativecall

Hi, I built an odd little application using wxPerl. The code worked ok, but I dislike the object interface and it does not mesh with P6. The big issue is that wxPerl gets built and tied to wxWidgets C++ code - the two are linked so you are basically stuck with that module to access wxWidgets. I hav