old). Thank you for your time.
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ect to do it
by setting the read-only attribute on that variable, which I would
further expect to do the same way I would set any other attribute at
any other time. Orthogonality has its good points, even in Perl;
you just shouldn't be afraid to veer off diagonally when it makes sense.
I don&
.ISA property, if we toss the
> > per-class @ISA
>
> I certainly like the idea of instance-level inheritance (since
> it's the only way to go in prototype-based OO), but I hope we
> wouldn't sacrifice class-level inheritance for it.
> We could have both, right? We could let classes be first-class
> objects, eh?
>
> --
> John Porter
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On Wed, Jun 27, 2001 at 03:07:36PM -0400, John Porter wrote:
> Mark J. Reed wrote:
> > ... be sure that "Perl stays Perl".
>
> Eh, puke.
I'm sorry? If you don't like Perl as it is, why do you care what happens
to it in the future? But the RFC on Perl remaini
ap nicely if they were inheritable. Maybe "inheritable" could
be a settable property of properties?
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--
I have made this letter longer than usual because I lack the time to
make it shorter.
-- Blaise Pascal
; Dan Sugalski even samurai
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] have teddy bears and even
> teddy bears get drunk
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conflation of names in typeglobs,
though I find it odd that nobody ever made a special case to disallow
them in Perl5. Of course, most global magic variables are going away,
anyway, but I think $n for regexes is remaining, right?
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ig improvement over the
current version:
while (my ($key, $val) = each %my_hash)
{ ... }
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Well, other than the fact that the while(each) doesn't do aliasing.
Since that would be the whole point, ignore that last message.
On Fri, Jul 20, 2001 at 01:21:57PM -0400, Mark J. Reed wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 20, 2001 at 11:17:13AM -0600, Sterin, Ilya wrote:
> > But this will be f
...which I would have thought was a faq; maybe I just haven't found
the right faq list...
Where can I find a pod2html that groks the p6 version of POD? I want
to format my fresh-from-svn copies of the doc...
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eferencing as long as the referent is anonymous, and no
dereferencing if the referent is a named variable? That doesn't seem
like a common enough case to warrant sugar to me; what am I missing?
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tional; and then later on in the context of attributes it uses
"self" as if it's already been talked about, but I can't find an
introduction of the term anywhere...
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; it's treated
as a single-line comment. You need to put something before the # on
the line.
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Mark J. Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
"haven't gotten around to rw parameters in blocks yet" or a
regression?
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= @k [=>] @v;
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Mark J. Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
he "any old" kind.)
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friendly strings out of
it. This was much more natural.
(Speaking of which, pugs apparently doesn't have C as a global
function, only the .trans method)
It does sadden me somewhat that the say() requires the parens (or an
explicit $_ etc). But I'll live. :)
(The key above is for today's Order of the Stick, btw.)
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On 8/23/06, Mark J. Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
my %trans = ('a'..'z') »=>« ('?' xx 26);
Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but I should theoretically be able to
use xx * there, thus creating a lazily-evaluated infinitely-long list
of question marks?
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Mark J. Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
output. And if I try .trans:
$ pugs -e '$_ = "foo"; say .trans(o=>0)'
*** No compatible subrountine found: "&trans"
at -e line 1, column 13-31
But in any clase I'm glad it's merely an implementation bug rather
than specced behavior.
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Mark J. Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
erfectly clear what that means. Fpr example, $foo xx *
creates a(n infinite) list which contains $foo at every position no
matter how high a position you ask for . . .
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On 8/24/06, Mark J. Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
e.g. q(a b) >>=><< (1,2,3,4) would return (a=>1, b=>2, undef=>3, undef=>4).
or rather, it would if I'd typed qw(a b) as I intended.
One other point: while I agree that we should shield the programmer a
o works because parens were the old way of hiding pairs from being
named parameters
OK, I see those in S06 now. And may I say . . . urk! But I'll say no
more, as that is a design topic, and as such fodder for an entirely
different mailing list.
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Mark J. Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
rt matching with ~~ would be the usual way to go, I
suppose you could also do an explicit equality check with .^/.META...
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Mark J. Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
That may be what you fixed; I haven't built r12675 yet to see. But
it's not what I thought the problem was. :)
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Mark J. Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Is there a repository of current known bugs with pugs, like there is
with Parrot? I'm just starting and don't want to point out things
that are already known.
I just built Pugs fresh from SVN on four different platforms (Win32,
Solaris, OS X Panther, and OS X Tiger) and noticed these things
cons
On 8/24/06, Larry Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Wed, Aug 23, 2006 at 05:01:43PM -0400, Mark J. Reed wrote:
: Sorry if this is a known question, but I didn't see it mentioned in the
: recent archive or FAQ.
:
: for ($a, $b) { $_ = ... }
:
: gives me a "Can't modif
*.
I think the justification for Luke's POV is the number of operations
each class provides. But my perspective agrees with Juerd -
subclasses can remove functionality as well as adding it, and I
definitely view "constant" as an add-on modifier, not a default that
has to be overr
fig, so it's not
coming from there...
Anyway, the reason C++ isn't linking is that it needs some libraries
that aren't included in the Perl5 $libs, and I can't figure out how to
get Configure.pl to add to that. I would expect it to honor LDFLAGS
or LIBPATH or LD_LIBRARY_PATH or something...
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Mark J. Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
ldflags=(flags)Use the given loader flags for shared libraries
--lex=(lexer)Use the given lexical analyzer generator
--yacc=(parser) Use the given parser generator
Hope this helps.
On Aug 25, 2006, at 10:40 AM, Mark J. Reed wrote:
> I'm trying to build parrot
On 8/24/06, Audrey Tang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Mark, can you add a test to t/statements/for.t? A commit bit is on
its way to your inbox. :-)
Done. Tests 37 (implicit "rw $_") and 38 (explicit "-> $x is rw")
add to for.t as of r12968.
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Mark J. Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
able expectations. You can be paranoid
about it if you want, but it's not a very Perlish form of paranoia.
(Yes, there are Perlish forms of paranoia. Taintedness checking, for
instance...)
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Mark J. Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
OK, I admit I wasn't thinking about things from a DBC perspective, and
misunderstood "DBC" to be a reference to some database module. I here
am new and I didn't have context. My bad.
But if we're talking design-by-contract, I don't see how "Array is
Array::Const" can work, either, since I consi
On 8/25/06, Mark J. Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I here am new and I didn't have context.
Well, technically, I here am not new; I've been here since before Apoc
1. But I hadn't been paying close attention for a while until
recently. :) Either way, I didn't get
s before diving in.
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Mark J. Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
o support perl5 calling semantics, I'd prefer a mechanism for
asking for that explicitly in the signature rather than jumping
through hoops to support it by default. Perhaps there could be a rule
that, in the absence of a slurpy hash declaration, any trailing Pairs
are scanned for matches to named parameters?
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Mark J. Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
;m American; make that "executable math". ) I think
it's certainly closer than Perl6 will be. And yet, for all the talk about
"line noise", APL makes even the worst perl3 code look positively legible
by comparison. :)
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Mark J. Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
d Firefox/Mac... and it's
not just me...
On 8/29/06, Will Coleda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Transcript now available at:
http://www.parrotcode.org/misc/parrotsketch-logs/
irclog.parrotsketch-200608/irclog.parrotsketch.20060829
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Will "Coke" Coleda
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Mark J. Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
the browser"
isn't an
option in the resulting dialog.
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Mark J. Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
align',
has_dynamic_linking => 1,
# XXX when built against a dynamic libparrot installable_parrot
records
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Mark J. Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
t just break recently??
Not that I see any problem applying this patch, regardless.
On Aug 30, 2006, at 4:55 PM, Mark J. Reed wrote:
> Currently compilation fails on OS X with gcc/g++, because "-bundle"
> as the
> first argument gets interpreted as a request to run the "undle&qu
question of backward
compatibility.
I also really hate the HTML-multivalued-input-names-have-[] hack.
And I'm not fond of the "arrays are just hashes with numeric keys"
philosophy (which it shares with JavaScript).
But other than that, I love PHP. ;-)
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Mark J. Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
ot;replace" would be a better name, even though
it breaks the mnemonic association with s///?
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Mark J. Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
n't think substitution belongs in a smart match op.
Well, that's the reason for the method version in perl6. Which, AFAICT,
returns the new string instead of the Match object, which is as it should
be. The only thing I don't like is the name. :)
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Mark J. Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
tically at least). So
I don't see a need for a specific restriction on the use of "when".
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Mark J. Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
also happens to use map and
closures.
There's nothing terribly confusing or intimidating about grep itself
apart from the name; "find all items in this list matching blah" is
pretty straightforward functionality.
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Mark J. Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
ot; to do a "grep -v" (cf. "if !" vs "unless"). But I'd accept
"filter", too.
I definitely vote C, though. No aliases in the core, but no reason
not to include modules in the standard set that provide some.
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Mark J. Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
ed.
Indeed. Ruby also has "select" (an alias for "find_all"); as
indicated in my last message, that's my new favorite name for this
method (second only to keeping "grep").
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Mark J. Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
s in to grep can
have other side effects, which may not have an "opposite", but that's
to me a separate issue).
Also, how is grep intended to work in P6? I had just sort of assumed
that it took any sort of value as a criterion and smart-matched
against it, but pugs currently requires a block...
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TECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]), then
what do we call what
the \ is doing there, now that references are supposed to be a
behind-the-scenes automagical thing?
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Mark J. Reed wrote:
> Ok, I dkimmed through the synopses again and didn't see this offhand.
That's what I get for dkimming instead of reading. Or even skimming.
OK, so "Capture objects fill the ecological niche of references in
Perl 6." Got it. Perhaps we should
you have exactly the same ambiguity there:
$o.a%$b
$o.a % $b
$o.a %$b
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Mark J. Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
f that particular ambiguity in
Perl 6.
Thank you, design team.
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Mark J. Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
way around. "package" is Perl 5, because that's the P5 keyword,
and seeing a "package" declaration is an indicator to Perl6 that the
file it's processing is written in P5. In P6, there are both
"module"s and "class"es, but no "package"s other than those inherited
from P5 code..
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On 9/29/06, Jonathan Lang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
And here I thought you were a responsible, law-abiding citizen... :P
And so it begins.
I daresay there will be no shortage of jokes among P6ers about "does Hash" ...
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Mark J. Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
something go awry in the email encoding (possibly
on my end)?
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Mark J. Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
ewline?
That was exactly my thought when I read Paul's message Death to
trailing whitespace!
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Mark J. Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
to get to the next tabstop (whose
spacing you can control with the appropriately-named 'tabstop'
option).
Once expandtab is on, you can issue a ":retab" command to replace any
existing hard tabs with spaces.
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Mark J. Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
lization on the same line right?
INTVAL counter = 0;
Sure. Even pre-ANSI C allows that.
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On 11/13/06, Darren Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
- There are no Undef or NaN etc values or variables.
A RDBMS language with no "null" would seem to be problematic..
although i guess you could just use 1-tuples where the empty tuple is
treated as null.
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On 11/14/06, Vincent Foley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I was toying around with Pugs and I tried the following Perl 5 list assignment
my ($a, undef, $b) = 1..3;
Huh. I didn't think that worked in Perl 5, either. What am I misremembering?
I distinctly recall having to do things like (my $a,
On 11/15/06, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 11/15/06, Mark J. Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 11/14/06, Vincent Foley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I was toying around with Pugs and I tried the following Perl 5 list
assignment
> >
ah! So I'm not crazy! Necessarily, anyway. Just behind the times.
Thanks, Dave!
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I believe mod should be defined in the conventional way: x mod y = x -
floor(x/y) * y, which does yield 0.8 for 3.2 mod 2.4. However, for
3.2 mod - 2.4 it yields -1.6. To get 0.8 you would have to round
toward zero instead of taking the floor, and that complicates any
computation that crosses ze
On Tue, Jul 02, 2002 at 09:56:46AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Sean O'Rourke [...] presented "a larger [grammar] that appears to
> capture much more of the syntax found in Apocalypses and Exegeses
> 1 - 4 (5 just scares me)."
On that subject, am I correct that there is no Exegesi
On Tue, Jul 16, 2002 at 05:42:18PM -0400, Michael G Schwern wrote:
> I don't know how Java and Python handle Unicode.
Java has always been 100% Unicode from the ground up; it's in the spec.
The fundamental char type is a 16-bit value, you can use any "letterlike"
characters in identifiers, there's
On Wed, Jul 17, 2002 at 04:17:15PM +0100, Nicholas Clark wrote:
> My understanding was that Unicode has now escaped the base plane (or whatever
> it's called) and now has started using code points >65536. How does Java
> cope with this?
This is getting a little off-topic, I think. But here's a br
On Wed, Jul 17, 2002 at 12:13:47PM -0400, Dan Sugalski wrote:
> I thought Java used UTF-16. It's a variable-width encoding, so it
> should be fine. (Though I bet a lot of folks will be rather surprised
> when it happens...)
UTF-16 isn't technically a variable-width encoding, since
surrogate code
> On Wed, Jul 17, 2002 at 12:13:47PM -0400, Dan Sugalski wrote:
> > I thought Java used UTF-16. It's a variable-width encoding, so it
> > should be fine. (Though I bet a lot of folks will be rather surprised
> > when it happens...)
Update:
Since Unicode 3.1 (3.2 is the current version), there h
On Fri, Aug 02, 2002 at 08:30:05AM +1000, Damian Conway wrote:
> @arr[@arr.length] = $var;
>
> or maybe just :
>
> @arr[.length] = $var;
>
> (if an array were to be made the topic inside its own accessor brackets).
I know this idea was just thrown in there, but I find that I really
On Sat, Aug 10, 2002 at 02:23:07AM +0800, Christian Renz wrote:
> Actually, I once found myself wondering why while doesn't set $_ all
> the time anyway... It would be nice to do things like
Because the logic of the while construct doesn't require any
connection between the condition and the topic
On Fri, Aug 09, 2002 at 05:23:58PM -0700, Steve Fink wrote:
> Wow. Since you went to the trouble of writing all this up, it really
> ought to go in a FAQ somewhere.
It probably already is in a FAQ somewhere; I just don't know where. :)
> On Thu, Aug 08, 2002 at 12:05:00AM -0400
The specific definitions of these terms vary from language to
language. In Java, for instance, a method is said to be
"overloaded" and/or "overridden".
An "overloaded" method is actually two or more methods with the
same name but differing numbers/types of parameters (which Java
calls the "signa
On Fri, Sep 06, 2002 at 02:34:52PM +0100, Nicholas Clark wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 04, 2002 at 10:46:24PM -0400, Ken Fox wrote:
> > What is really needed is something that converts the date syntax
> > to normal Perl code:
> >
> >rule iso_date { () -
> >() -
> >
On Mon, Sep 09, 2002 at 05:02:18PM -0400, Aaron Sherman wrote:
> On Mon, 2002-09-09 at 06:05, David Helgason wrote:
> >
> > Yeay! Golf...
>
> > If we are allowed to use all of perl6 in this particular (golf-)course,
> > I suggest:
>
> Clearly I've missed a reference at some point. Presumably "
On 2002-10-08 at 17:15:06, Larry Wall wrote:
> Seriously, () is just a special token. We could easily have used a
> special token like NULLLIST instead. What does INTERCAL use?
Well, INTERCAL doesn't have lists per se, but it does have arrays, whose
size is set by assignment: the lvalue is the n
On 2002-10-14 at 19:58:50, Piers Cawley wrote:
> I would expect Class to inherit from Object (along with everything
> else). It might be worth looking at a Smalltalk image or two at this
> point...
You might want to look at _Putting_Metaclasses_To_Work_ by Danforth and
Forman - or at Ruby, which f
Actually, 1/0 is not NaN; it's +Infinity. You only get NaN out of
dividing by 0 if the numerator is either infinite or also 0.
The reason most implementations throw an error on division by 0
is that they either don't have a representation for infinity
(not a problem in IEEE floating point) or t
On 2002-10-14 at 19:48:23, Mark J. Reed wrote:
> Actually, 1/0 is not NaN; it's +Infinity. You only get NaN out of
> dividing by 0 if the numerator is either infinite or also 0.
> The reason most implementations throw an error on division by 0
> is that they either don't
On 2002-10-14 at 20:15:33, Michael G Schwern wrote:
> There are several verbal proofs why 1/0 is not +Infinity here:
> http://mathforum.org/dr.math/faq/faq.divideby0.html
Yeah, that would be why I sent my followup. I did not mean to
imply that 1/0 is positive infinity in "real world math".
How
On 2002-10-14 at 20:49:52, Michael G Schwern wrote:
> > It is also, as an example, the behavior required by the ECMAScript
> > specification.
>
> Heh. "Because Javascript does it" is supposed to be an argument for? ;)
Heh, indeed. :) But seriously, you could do worse. JavaScript receives
a lot
On 2002-10-17 at 22:52:49, Smylers wrote:
> Larry Wall wrote:
>
> > $a .| $b# bitwise or
> > $a .! $b# bitwise xor
>
> On glancing down your list I initially misread the bar as an exclamation
> mark. I realize that this is a sample size of one, but certainly in
> this ter
On 2002-10-26 at 18:10:39, Michael Lazzaro wrote:
> > Larry wrote:
> > > If one were going to generalize that, one would be tempted to go the Ada
> > > route of specifying the radix explicitly:
Ada and others . . . ksh uses the # for this (in place of your colon below),
and I seem to recall that sy
On 2002-10-28 at 16:39:10, brian wheeler wrote:
> [The below is actually from Larry, not Michael]
> > explicit radix specifications for integers:
> > 0123- decimal
> >2:0110- binary [also b:0110?]
> >8:123 - octal [also o:123?]
> >16:123
On 2002-10-28 at 16:54:26, Dan Sugalski wrote:
> >The post that started this thread was a complaint about
> >leading 0 meaning octal - which is counterintuitive to everyone the
> >first time they come across it in C or Perl or Java or wherever.
>
> That's not entirely true. Granted the set of the
> What about specifying endiannes also, or would that be too low-level
> to even consider? Currently I don't have any examples for where it
> might even be used...
Literals are the wrong place to put that; they represent values, not
storage. Endianness should generally not be visible at the lan
On 2002-10-30 at 12:23:53, David Wheeler wrote:
> This tells me that Mail.app, for some reason, didn't know that it was
> supposed to use UTF-8 when showing Larry's mail. When I pasted his mail
> into a UTF-8 document in Emacs, it looked fine.
>
> Given that it's probably UTF-8 that Perl 6 sourc
On 2002-10-30 at 12:47:17, Larry Wall wrote:
> (Anybody know of a version of pine that does UTF-8?)
Yes - it's called mutt. ☺
Seriously, I do highly recommend switching from pine to mutt. It's not
a completely painless transition, since mutt is more ELMlike than PINElike,
but I know many who have
On 2002-10-31 at 12:45:23, David Wheeler wrote:
> Plus, it turns out not to be at all hard to type on Mac OS X. ;-)
Well, the angle quotes happen to fall within Latin-1, and so they're
easier to get to. On Windows you can either set up special key mappings or
just type ALT+171 for « and ALT+187 fo
On 2002-11-01 at 16:03:51, Iain 'Spoon' Truskett wrote:
> I'm not too concerned about unicode since my xterm doesn't support it
> anyway =)
XFree86 4.2.0 xterm does UTF-8 (when requested to do so via the -u8 flag).
If course, you need a Uniciode/ISO-10646 X11 font, but there are plenty of
those ar
On Thursday, October 31, 2002, at 10:36 PM, Michael Lazzaro wrote:
> When someone asks "what's the boolean type in Perl?" I'd rather answer
> >"bit" than "Perl doesn't have one", if for no other reason than the
> >latter answer will completely freak them out. :-)
Why? Plenty of languages get a
On 2002-11-04 at 12:26:56, Austin Hastings wrote:
> 1- ? and ? are really useful in my context.
Okay. Now can you get your mailer to send them properly? :)
On 2002-11-06 at 11:43:20, Jonathan Scott Duff wrote:
>
> Will there be some shorter-hand way to say these?
>
> @a = @grades[grep $_ >= 90, @grades];
> @b = @grades[grep 80 <= $_ < 90, @grades];
> @c = @grades[grep 70 <= $_ < 80, @grades];
I think what you mean here is just
[Recipients list trimmed back to just the list - it was getting ridiculous.
So everyone will get only get one copy and it may take a tad longer to
get there . . .]
On 2002-11-07 at 17:07:46, Dan Sugalski wrote:
> Attributes are class-specific for a variable (okay, class instance
> specific, if
On 2002-11-07 at 15:28:14, Luke Palmer wrote:
> > From: "Mark J. Reed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Will something like that not be possible in Perl6?
>
> I'm afraid that statement is false for all values
On 2002-11-14 at 16:47:15, Michael G Schwern wrote:
> "string concatenation operator - please stop"
> http://archive.develooper.com/perl6-language@;perl.org/msg06710.html
BTW, the first link there - to the bikeshed story - is broken.
This is the correct link:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO88
On 2002-11-19 at 16:44:49, Me wrote:
> Elements of this shared vocabulary might be
> called 'locals' or 'yours'.
I like the 'yours' idea from the point of view of the callee:
my $inherited = your $_;
However, I also like the idea of having to mark shareable lexicals
explicitly in the call
On 2002-12-06 at 17:59:33, Larry Wall wrote:
> Now all we have to do is
> convince everyone that the year 1 B.C. is the same as year 0 A.D.,
> and 2 B.C. is the same as -1 A.D., and so on.
Well, since that's already true, it hopefully won't take much
convincing. :) If you mean to convince the gen
On 2003-01-07 at 11:31:13, Mr. Nobody wrote:
> .length is unneeded, since an array gives its length in numeric context, so
> you can just say +@a.
Unneeded, but harmless.
> grep shouldn't be an array method either, it should be
> like the perl5 grep, as it is often used on lists, "grep /foo/, key
Let me just chime in here that I have been reading all the
messages via mutt in an xterm font in which the
tilde is at the top of the space, and this has in no way
affected my appreciation of the new operators.
I don't want them to look like arrows, because that's reminiscent
of ->, which is misle
On 2003-01-16 at 11:41:56, Dan Sugalski wrote:
> And keyboards, don't forget keyboards. These pesky primitive ones we
> have now would require a lot of shift-control-alt-meta-cokebottle key
> sequences...
Unicode may have thousands of characters, but how many of them do you
think you'll use often
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