Re: Testing module madness

2005-09-11 Thread Andy Lester
Similarly, I'm not making any of my tests optional except in the case of tests where they don't affect direction operation, as in t/pod{,-coverage}.t. xoxo, Andy -- Andy Lester => [EMAIL PROTECTED] => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance

Re: Testing module madness

2005-09-11 Thread Andy Lester
e fits with the target machine. xoxo, Andy -- Andy Lester => [EMAIL PROTECTED] => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance

Re: Test::Harness Extension/Replacement with Color Hilighting

2005-09-16 Thread Andy Lester
On Fri, Sep 16, 2005 at 03:55:15AM +0300, Shlomi Fish ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Mr. Lester, would you approve of a friendly spin-off of Test::Harness? Why are you asking if I approve? You can do whatever you like with the source code for Test::Harness. xoa -- Andy Lester =>

Re: Test::Harness Extension/Replacement with Color Hilighting

2005-09-16 Thread Andy Lester
ot this great idea", and people to pile on and say "That's good, that's bad" and we're left with a lot of hot air and precious little code. So, Shlomi: Show me the code. -- Andy Lester => [EMAIL PROTECTED] => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance

Plugging CPANTS

2005-09-18 Thread Andy Lester
For all the activity going on with CPANTS, we have nothing on qa.perl.org that refers to it. Can someone please write up a paragraph and a link that I can put up on qa.perl.org's front page? Thanks, xoxo, Andy -- Andy Lester => [EMAIL PROTECTED] => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance

Re: Test::More & Test::Builder::Tester

2005-10-07 Thread Andy Lester
as well. Let's see what he says and go from there. xoxo, Andy -- Andy Lester => [EMAIL PROTECTED] => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance

Re: Test::More & Test::Builder::Tester

2005-10-09 Thread Andy Lester
I don't care if they're called "Truman Capote", they're lines whose contents are to be ignored. The harness ignores them. They're comments. They won't always be ignored. I want them returned in the Test::Harness::Point object. xoxo, Andy

Re: Test::More & Test::Builder::Tester

2005-10-09 Thread Andy Lester
They won't always be ignored. I want them returned in the Test::Harness::Point object. *sigh* But you're not going to parse the contents. Right. -- Andy Lester => [EMAIL PROTECTED] => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance

Re: First (developers) Release of Test::Shlomif::Harness

2005-10-10 Thread Andy Lester
-forks-and-takeovers/ I would be glad to talk to you one-on-one on specific plans and features for Test::Harness. Nik Clayton and I, for example, have worked out some changes to the straps mechanism that fits his needs. My email address and AIM account are in every email. Until then, I'm not interested. xoxo, Andy -- Andy Lester => [EMAIL PROTECTED] => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance

Re: First (developers) Release of Test::Shlomif::Harness

2005-10-10 Thread Andy Lester
t to fork Test::Harness", we could have worked together. Instead, it's "I want color-coding of tests, and T::H doesn't do what I want, so I'm gonna go fork it, OK?" http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.qa/4799 xoa -- Andy Lester => [EMAIL PROTECTED] => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance

Re: First (developers) Release of Test::Shlomif::Harness

2005-10-10 Thread Andy Lester
you in the 3rd person in this thread. :-) -- Andy Lester => [EMAIL PROTECTED] => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance

Re: First (developers) Release of Test::Shlomif::Harness

2005-10-13 Thread Andy Lester
esume to tell them that they can't. xoa -- Andy Lester => [EMAIL PROTECTED] => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance

Test::Harness is now publicly subversioned

2005-10-23 Thread Andy Lester
Test::Harness is now at http://svn.perl.org/modules/Test-Harness/ Makes diffing easier for anyone sending patches. xoxo, Andy -- Andy Lester => [EMAIL PROTECTED] => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance

Re: TAP implementation questions

2005-11-06 Thread Andy Lester
or prove, does. That's the reference implementation to which everything has to answer. Test::Harness::TAP is just a capture of the behavior. xoxo, Andy -- Andy Lester => [EMAIL PROTECTED] => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance

Re: Test-first development

2003-04-12 Thread Andy Lester
> > http://tejasconsulting.com/articles/test-first.html > > There's an article by some bloke about test driven development in this > month's Perl Journal. AND there's one lined up for the upcoming issue of The Perl Review! -- 'Andy Lester[

Re: Test::Deep namespace

2003-06-19 Thread Andy Lester
It's a Test::Builder based testing module, it's designed to replace and enhances Test::More's is_deeply() and eq_set(). is_deeply() has several limitiations like not handling circular references and ignoring the blessedness of references, it also has a few bugs. It would be nice if the functions

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Test::Warn::None 0.02

2003-06-24 Thread Andy Lester
All this "make sure no warnings fired" is good thinking. But why not roll it into Test::Harness, and make it switch selectable? It's really T::H that we want keeping an eye on this, right? xoa -- Andy Lester => [EMAIL PROTECTED] => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance

Re: blocks and subplans again

2003-06-25 Thread Andy Lester
ifics... xoa -- Andy Lester => [EMAIL PROTECTED] => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance

Updates to qa.perl.org

2003-08-15 Thread Andy Lester
There are a couple of minor tweaks to qa.perl.org. Soon, I'll have a page up for the Phalanx project and THEN we'll have ourselves a good time! xoa -- Andy Lester => [EMAIL PROTECTED] => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance

Re: Phalanx has started, and I need perl-qa's help

2003-08-22 Thread Andy Lester
the core smokers. Core modules are phase two because of the Extra Excitement that will be caused by mucking with them and pumpking coordination and whatnot. Most I mention because they're important. Some I mention because they tend to break a lot and reveal subtle incompatibilities in Per

Phalanx has started, and I need perl-qa's help

2003-08-21 Thread Andy Lester
serious ommissions from the Phalanx 100 module list... I'm turning to the perl-qa group for feedback BEFORE I announce to the world, so I appreciate any comments. Thanks, xoxo, Andy -- Andy Lester => [EMAIL PROTECTED] => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance

Phalanx and testing distributions

2003-08-18 Thread Andy Lester
Some of this distribution testing could likely get incorporated into the Phalanx project, if I get it announced today like I'd like to do... Phalanx = "beefing up test suites of Perl and the top 100 CPAN modules to make a good test bed for Ponie" xoxo, Andy -- Andy Lester =>

Re: Phalanx update

2004-12-05 Thread Andy Lester
On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 02:27:47AM +, Mark Stosberg ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On 2004-12-02, Andy Lester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've reorganized all the trees in http://svn.perl.org/phalanx. A > > description of how things should be is at >

Test labels

2004-12-06 Thread Andy Lester
me) a unique identifier. We also talked about "description", but "description" is just s overloaded. Thoughts? xoxo, Andy -- Andy Lester => [EMAIL PROTECTED] => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance

Re: Test label - contents

2004-12-07 Thread Andy Lester
tes, 51, "51 states includes dummy XX state" ); xoxo, Andy -- Andy Lester => [EMAIL PROTECTED] => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance

Re: Test Failure Hooks

2004-12-07 Thread Andy Lester
t; files (or preserves them) or any of a number of things that I'd like to > be able to handle. Q&D way would be to confess. is( $nstooges, 3 ) or confess; xoxo, Andy -- Andy Lester => [EMAIL PROTECTED] => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance

New version of Test::LongString

2004-12-09 Thread Andy Lester
There are now examples in the docs that I hope make you say "Wow, this is cool, thanks RGS!" http://search.cpan.org/dist/Test-LongString http://search.cpan.org/~rgarcia/Test-LongString-0.05/lib/Test/LongString.pm xoxo, Andy -- Andy Lester => [EMAIL PROTECTED] => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance

New qa.perl.org updates

2004-12-10 Thread Andy Lester
http://qa.perl.org/testing-guidelines.html is updated. So is http://qa.perl.org/test-modules.html, with new modules and some reorganization. xoxo, Andy -- Andy Lester => [EMAIL PROTECTED] => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance

Re: --session option to prove

2004-12-13 Thread Andy Lester
ge to prove itself. I'm in love with (well, maybe just a crush on) the idea of having a continual prove in a window while you're running tests. I'm just trying to think of how best to do it. xoa -- Andy Lester => [EMAIL PROTECTED] => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance

Re: --session option to prove

2004-12-14 Thread Andy Lester
a sub-part of Test::Harness, please don't call it that. Test::Daemon would be fine. It sounds like what you're describing would be a superset of Test::Harness. Thanks, xoox, Andy -- Andy Lester => [EMAIL PROTECTED] => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance

Re: New qa.perl.org updates

2004-12-10 Thread Andy Lester
quot; failure at the top. (I speak from > extremely painful personal experience on this.) Patches, please. s/html$/pod/ in the URL for the source. xoxo, Andy -- Andy Lester => [EMAIL PROTECTED] => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance

Test::Harness no longer watches for coredumps

2004-12-17 Thread Andy Lester
u sad to see it leave? Please tell me about how and when you use it, so that we might look at re-implementing it. xoxo, Andy -- Andy Lester => [EMAIL PROTECTED] => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance

Help redo the Phalanx 100

2004-12-20 Thread Andy Lester
w statistics to those with a lot of revisions. How should these be accounted for in the analysis? I don't know. That's one of the reasons that I put this out for all to work on. I welcome your comments, suggestions and help on this. xoxo, Andy -- Andy Lester => [EMAIL PROTECTED] => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance

Help update the Phalanx 100

2004-12-20 Thread Andy Lester
w statistics to those with a lot of revisions. How should these be accounted for in the analysis? I don't know. That's one of the reasons that I put this out for all to work on. I welcome your comments, suggestions and help on this. Thanks, xoxo, Andy -- Andy Lester => [EMAIL PROTECTED] => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance

Phalanx update please!

2004-12-25 Thread Andy Lester
ngo from 60% to 90%, and Chicago.PM has found and fixed three bugs in HTML::Googah." Thanks, xoxo, Andy -- Andy Lester => [EMAIL PROTECTED] => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance

Re: WWW::Mechanize 1.08 fails on some tests

2004-12-29 Thread Andy Lester
of tests run. xoxo, Andy -- Andy Lester => [EMAIL PROTECTED] => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance

Test run of the new Phalanx 100

2005-01-17 Thread Andy Lester
m-ReadLine-Perl Text-Iconv TimeDate Time-modules Unicode-String Unix-Syslog Verilog-Perl WWW-Mechanize XML-DOM XML-Generator XML-LibXML XML-NamespaceSupport XML-SAX XML-Simple XML-Writer xoxo, Andy -- Andy Lester => [EMAIL PROTECTED] => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance

Re: Test run of the new Phalanx 100

2005-01-19 Thread Andy Lester
thing. :-/ xoxo, Andy -- Andy Lester => [EMAIL PROTECTED] => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance

Re: Hello

2005-01-21 Thread Andy Lester
On Fri, Jan 21, 2005 at 05:00:09PM +, GlennH ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > I read about the Phalanx project on the yahoo Agile Testing group and Welcome to the group. You can also go add your name and address to the HereToHelp page on the Kiwki. xoxo, Andy -- Andy Lester =>

Phalanx article now live

2005-01-21 Thread Andy Lester
There's a new Phalanx article on perl.com: http://www.perl.com/pub/a/2005/01/13/phalanx.html Let's hope we get an influx of Hoplites! xoxo, Andy -- Andy Lester => [EMAIL PROTECTED] => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance

Re: Hello

2005-01-21 Thread Andy Lester
curious what was said. -- Andy Lester => [EMAIL PROTECTED] => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance

Re: Overriding Test::Builder::ok (Warnocked?)

2005-01-25 Thread Andy Lester
an we do it with core modules only? -- Andy Lester => [EMAIL PROTECTED] => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance

Re: Test::Unit, ::Class, or ::Inline?

2005-01-26 Thread Andy Lester
thoughts and ideas on structures of results. xoa -- Andy Lester => [EMAIL PROTECTED] => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance

Re: Whither the perl-qa wiki ?

2005-01-31 Thread Andy Lester
On Mon, Jan 31, 2005 at 12:10:41PM -0600, Shawn Carroll ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > http://phalanx.kwiki.org/ > Yeah, but the one Schwern had goin' was more general. -- Andy Lester => [EMAIL PROTECTED] => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance

Phalanx matchups

2005-02-02 Thread Andy Lester
want to run a module team, but I'm glad to join one. xoxo, Andy -- Andy Lester => [EMAIL PROTECTED] => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance

Re: Test names/comments/whatever?

2005-02-05 Thread Andy Lester
On Feb 5, 2005, at 10:03 AM, Ovid wrote: Has there been any final decision as to what to call test names? There was quite a bit of discussion, but I don't recall the resolution. Nothing has been decided. I just don't like "name". xoa -- Andy Lester => [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: Test names/comments/whatever?

2005-02-05 Thread Andy Lester
On Feb 5, 2005, at 6:47 PM, chromatic wrote: I think the right approach is to patch T::H::S to collect diagnostic information and make it available. It's easy enough to grab it via IPC::Open3 elsewhere and pass a combined STDOUT/STDERR filehandle to analyze_fh(). Agreed. My goal is to have Test::Ha

Re: Test names/comments/whatever?

2005-02-06 Thread Andy Lester
s just the same. So as of right now, that's official. That and I already changed it to that in Test::Harness::TAP.pod, awaiting the next release. xoxo, Andy -- Andy Lester => [EMAIL PROTECTED] => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance

Re: Test names/comments/whatever?

2005-02-06 Thread Andy Lester
Last I checked, IPC::Open3 has portability issues. Right. My original patch made T::H::S use that, but I now prefer to put that burden on the program that uses the module to make sure that diagnostics come in correctly. I should NOT have applied that? It's already on my trunk. xoa --

Re: Test comments

2005-02-14 Thread Andy Lester
On Mon, Feb 14, 2005 at 09:48:39AM -0800, Ovid ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > It's actually rather important that I have an answer for this, but I > really can't go into more detail (sorry). It's a comment. -- Andy Lester => [EMAIL PROTECTED] => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance

Re: Test comments

2005-02-14 Thread Andy Lester
line. Anything that starts with # is ignored by the harness. That's very different from the test comment. xoa -- Andy Lester => [EMAIL PROTECTED] => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance

Re: Test comments

2005-02-14 Thread Andy Lester
I want to avoid the word "comment" altogether, making the optionalness of #1 and #3 evident in their words, the activeness of #2 evident in its word, and any comparison to Perl's comments in syntax or name go away. Darn you and your clear thinking. xoa -- Andy Lester =>

TAP docs

2005-02-19 Thread Andy Lester
those comments in ASAP, please. Thanks, xoxo, Andy -- Andy Lester => [EMAIL PROTECTED] => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance

Re: TAP docs

2005-02-19 Thread Andy Lester
On Sat, Feb 19, 2005 at 10:34:06AM -0600, Andy Lester ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Please have a look at my latest/greatest HTMLified version of > Test::Harness::TAP.pod: > > http://www.petdance.com/random/tap.html Also note that it goes with the form: ok 1 Description

Re: Foreign modules in test scripts?

2005-02-19 Thread Andy Lester
Is it ok for a CPAN module to use other modules from CPAN only for the test scripts (e.g. "Text::Diff")? Yes. See http://phalanx.kwiki.org/index.cgi?StandardDotTFiles for examples of .t files that only run if a certain module is installed. xoxo, Andy -- Andy Lester => [EM

Re: TAP docs

2005-02-19 Thread Andy Lester
http://www.petdance.com/random/tap.html Looks good. Thanks for working on this. You're welcome. Everyone: I still need more comments. Pete Krawczyk's the only one to provide complaints yet. xoxo, Andy -- Andy Lester => [EMAIL PROTECTED] => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance

Re: TAP docs

2005-02-19 Thread Andy Lester
sauce and lemon, and eaten, along with cole slaw and corn fritters, by a hungry guy from Wisconsin. xoxo, Andy -- Andy Lester => [EMAIL PROTECTED] => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance

Re: TAP docs

2005-02-19 Thread Andy Lester
On Feb 19, 2005, at 8:53 PM, Jason Gessner wrote: is skip supposed to be case sensitive? is it Skip, skip or SKIP ? Both TODO and SKIP are case-insensitive. I've updated to make that explicit. xoa -- Andy Lester => [EMAIL PROTECTED] => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance

Re: TAP docs

2005-02-19 Thread Andy Lester
On Feb 19, 2005, at 8:53 PM, Jason Gessner wrote: is skip supposed to be case sensitive? is it Skip, skip or SKIP ? Either way. I've updated it. xoa -- Andy Lester => [EMAIL PROTECTED] => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance

Test::Harness 2.47_01

2005-02-20 Thread Andy Lester
: ff4e6fec96554e5155208aa9922b44a3 No action is required on your part Request entered by: PETDANCE (Andy Lester) Request entered on: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 07:16:18 GMT Request completed: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 07:16:36 GMT -- Andy Lester => [EMAIL PROTECTED] => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance

Re: TAP docs

2005-02-21 Thread Andy Lester
, however, it doesn't, so the TAP docs are right. xoa -- Andy Lester => [EMAIL PROTECTED] => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance

Re: TAP docs

2005-02-21 Thread Andy Lester
TAP.pod really only deals with TAP, not the libs that create it. -- Andy Lester => [EMAIL PROTECTED] => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance

Re: TAP docs

2005-02-21 Thread Andy Lester
tion, including Dejagnu, POSIX and JUnit, drawing analogies between them and TAP. It would help those who are already familiar with other systems to more easily understand TAP. This sounds like a separate document for someone to write for us to include with T::H, but not part of the TAP docs.

Re: TAP docs

2005-02-21 Thread Andy Lester
ringent, but as written right now, we can't demand something that we don't conform to. xoa -- Andy Lester => [EMAIL PROTECTED] => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance

Re: TAP docs

2005-02-21 Thread Andy Lester
"ends with plan". In effect, finding ok 1 as the first line means "ends with plan". I don't see that the enhancements to the no_plan style really add anything. xoa -- Andy Lester => [EMAIL PROTECTED] => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance

Re: TAP docs

2005-02-21 Thread Andy Lester
7;ve added that to the docs. xoxo, Andy -- Andy Lester => [EMAIL PROTECTED] => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance

Re: TAP and STDERR

2005-02-23 Thread Andy Lester
A harness must only read TAP output from standard output and not from standard error. I wasn't considering the diagnostics to necessarily be TAP output. They're allowed, but not necessary to the running of the test. xoa -- Andy Lester => [EMAIL PROTECTED] => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance

Test-Harness-2.47_02.tar.gz

2005-03-01 Thread Andy Lester
hoose. Right now, it's not useful. I've got T:H:Point retrofitted into the straps, and the tests run. Now, if everyone would please test it out on their respective platforms, I'd appreciate it. Thanks, xoa -- Andy Lester => [EMAIL PROTECTED] => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance

Re: Test-Harness-2.47_02.tar.gz

2005-03-02 Thread Andy Lester
On Tue, Mar 01, 2005 at 11:26:07PM -0600, Andy Lester ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Right now, it's not useful. I've got T:H:Point retrofitted into the > straps, and the tests run. Now, if everyone would please test it out > on their respective platforms, I'd appreci

Test::Harness 2.47_03

2005-03-02 Thread Andy Lester
re if someone's using a Perl > 7+ years old, they're not going to care about new Test::Harness. xoa -- Andy Lester => [EMAIL PROTECTED] => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance

Re: Test::Harness 2.47_03

2005-03-03 Thread Andy Lester
On Thu, Mar 03, 2005 at 04:07:44PM -0500, Michael G Schwern ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > So any particular reason you've dropped 5.4.5 support? Lack of qr//. I might put it back, since it's not that widespread. -- Andy Lester => [EMAIL PROTECTED] => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance

Test::WWW::Mechanize 1.04

2005-03-04 Thread Andy Lester
I've updated Test::WWW::Mechanize to add get_ok() and follow_link_ok() methods. If you've been writing $mech->get( $url ); ok( $mech->success, 'Fetched home page' ); you can now do that as $mech->get_ok( $mech->success, 'Fetched home page'

Re: Test::Output 0.05

2005-03-04 Thread Andy Lester
the author wants it to be. Random thought: Could Devel::Cover be automatically run against all modules in CPAN, with ratings posted on cpan.org right next to the usual test results? Sure, go ahead. xoa -- Andy Lester => [EMAIL PROTECTED] => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance

Re: Test::* Modules, Devel::Cover, Phalanx [was Test::Output 0.05]

2005-03-04 Thread Andy Lester
At least as originally proposed by project leader Andy Lester, Phalanx was supposed to focus on *non-core*, Not exactly. I just figured it's easier for teams to submit tests back to individual authors than back to Perl itself. Also, those patches are more likely to get out into the mains

Re: testing non-modules

2005-03-06 Thread Andy Lester
> One issue I've always struggled with is how to properly test code that's > not in the form of a module - in other words, scripts. I use the usual Take a look at what I do with prove in Test::Harness. It's not very in-depth but should give you a starting point. --

Re: Test::WWW::Mechanize 1.04

2005-03-08 Thread Andy Lester
On Tue, Mar 08, 2005 at 03:25:45PM +, Mark Stosberg ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Perhaps you mean this: > > $mech->get_ok( $url, 'Fetched home page' ); Yes, that's what I meant. My mistake. xoa -- Andy Lester => [EMAIL PROTECTED] => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance

Re: Test::Builder->create

2005-03-08 Thread Andy Lester
output. That would mean that someone could use But T::B doesn't really think about "success" or "failure". It's in the harness that processes it. For example: not ok 1 - walk on water # TODO Not done yet T::B doesn't care if it's a pass or fail.

Re: Test::Builder->create

2005-03-08 Thread Andy Lester
but not on the larger scale. The "okness" of a test is T::B. Whether it passes in the scope of a test file is outside of that. -- Andy Lester => [EMAIL PROTECTED] => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance

Re: TAP and skip_rest

2005-03-11 Thread Andy Lester
.org/dist/Test-Harness/lib/Test/Harness/TAP.pod instead. I agree w/Schwern on not overloading skip_all. skip_rest is the way to go. Also, it would need to be explicit the difference between a skip_rest and a bail_out. -- Andy Lester => [EMAIL PROTECTED] => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance

Re: Module popularity

2005-03-14 Thread Andy Lester
is not what Phalanx measures. Let's not stir the mud. -- Andy Lester => [EMAIL PROTECTED] => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance

Re: Interested in joining Phalanx

2005-03-16 Thread Andy Lester
f you want. We're very ad hoc here. xoa -- Andy Lester => [EMAIL PROTECTED] => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance

Fwd: [ANN: WWW::Agent 0.03 has entered CPAN: rho@bigpond.net.au]

2005-03-19 Thread Andy Lester
--- The language is (roughly) described there http://search.cpan.org/~drrho/WWW-Agent/lib/WWW/Agent/Plugins/Director.pm -- A tutorial about writing plugins is at http://search.cpan.org/~drrho/WWW-Agent/lib/WWW/Agent/Plugins.pm I would expect that things will shif

Re: Module::Phalanx100

2005-03-20 Thread Andy Lester
On Mar 20, 2005, at 4:18 PM, Robert Rothenberg wrote: FYI, I've uploaded Module::Phalanx100 to CPAN in to $CPAN/authors/id/R/RR/RRWO/Module-Phalanx100-0.01.tar.gz There's already a Bundle::Phalanx. -- Andy Lester => [EMAIL PROTECTED] => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance

Re: Test::META

2005-03-26 Thread Andy Lester
On Mar 26, 2005, at 6:29 PM, Christopher H. Laco wrote: Is anyone aware of any existing code (aside from YAML) for grocking META.yml? Why are you changing it manually? -- Andy Lester => [EMAIL PROTECTED] => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance

Re: Kwalitee and has_test_*

2005-03-27 Thread Andy Lester
rsion repository, and they get run when I run a make test, but aren't in the MANIFEST and therefore don't get shipped. xoa -- Andy Lester => [EMAIL PROTECTED] => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance

Re: Phalanx

2005-03-30 Thread Andy Lester
bdirectory are executed to test the module. Yeah, looks like a big test.pl file. Yucky. Have you contacted the author to see if he/she is interested in the work you'll be doing? If so, then the first thing I'd do is convert it to a t/*.t structure. xoa -- Andy Lester

Re: Testing Net-SSLeay

2005-04-01 Thread Andy Lester
include the > Test::Simple and Test::More modules. I'd throw my hands up and let it go, then. One of the key functions of Phalanx is to modernize the testing infrastructure of the modules we touch. If he needs it to stay compatible back to the relative dark ages, then let's just leav

Why a scoreboard?

2005-04-01 Thread Andy Lester
Why is there a scoreboard? Why do we care about rankings? Why is it necessary to compare one measure to another? What purpose is being served? xoxo, Andy -- Andy Lester => [EMAIL PROTECTED] => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance

Re: Why a scoreboard?

2005-04-01 Thread Andy Lester
more interested with we can tell about modules on their own and how they can be improved, rather than make it a competition. -- Andy Lester => [EMAIL PROTECTED] => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance

Re: Bug in Net-SSLeay documentation

2005-04-02 Thread Andy Lester
g ahead with it? -- Andy Lester => [EMAIL PROTECTED] => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance

Re: Testing Net-SSLeay

2005-04-02 Thread Andy Lester
I'd say toss in a prerequisite for Test::Simple and be done with it. Anybody who is still using 5.6.0 with no additional modules does something wrong. But it's the author's choice, not ours. xoa -- Andy Lester => [EMAIL PROTECTED] => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance

Re: TestSimple/More/Builder in JavaScript

2005-04-07 Thread Andy Lester
On Thu, Apr 07, 2005 at 11:23:59AM -0700, David Wheeler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > I'm pleased to announce the first alpha release of my port of > TestSimple/More/Builder to JavaScript. You can download it from: You are a crazy man. xoxo, Andy -- Andy Lester => [E

Re: Difining an array

2005-04-11 Thread Andy Lester
On Mon, Apr 11, 2005 at 11:43:34AM -0300, LOGGOS TI ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > my @{$Tempo}; This should never have worked. I'm surprised it ran in 5.6. It's not legal. Regardless, this mailing list isn't the place for these questions. xoxo, Andy -- Andy Lester =

Re: Net::SSLeay testing

2005-04-13 Thread Andy Lester
xoxo, Andy -- Andy Lester => [EMAIL PROTECTED] => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance

Re: Kwalitee and has_test_*

2005-04-16 Thread Andy Lester
I'm about halfway ready to propose 'has_indentation' as a kwalitee metric. And the more the better! -- Andy Lester => [EMAIL PROTECTED] => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance

Fwd: CPAN Upload: P/PE/PETDANCE/Test-Harness-2.48.tar.gz

2005-04-22 Thread Andy Lester
rt Request entered by: PETDANCE (Andy Lester) Request entered on: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 03:53:30 GMT Request completed: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 03:55:53 GMT Thanks, -- paused, v460 -- Andy Lester => [EMAIL PROTECTED] => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance

Re: Building a module with tests

2005-05-05 Thread Andy Lester
preffered method. Go look at Module::Starter. Also, buy a copy of Perl Testing Developer's Notebook as soon as it comes out. xoxo, Andy -- Andy Lester => [EMAIL PROTECTED] => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance

Re: Building a module with tests

2005-05-06 Thread Andy Lester
for. xoxo, Andy -- Andy Lester => [EMAIL PROTECTED] => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance

Re: Devel::Cover - require 5.8?

2004-04-02 Thread Andy Lester
like D::C is pretty bleeding edge, and it's OK to require 5.8. xoa -- Andy Lester => [EMAIL PROTECTED] => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance

Re: rfc: prove -p passthrutag=passthruval -p tag2=val2 @testfiles

2004-04-07 Thread Andy Lester
> Id like to propose that I (or someone like me) add a passthru option > which lets someone pass thru options and arguments to the test scripts > being run. Is this better than some kind of environment variable that you set, and that your test programs detect and use? xoa -- An

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