On 7/4/06, Ovid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Because we're discarding anything which does not look like a plan or a test line
Don't discard them, just pass them through unaltered. Don't want to
lose any information. The /^#/ lines should be marked as comments.
Anything else is marked as junk bu
Bob Rogers wrote:
If, as seems likely, exception bookkeeping is moved to a separate
stack in the interpreter (with or without dynamic-wind actions), then
C/C addresses can stay in the Parrot_Context, and all of
pdd23_exceptions.pod that is quoted below ceases to be problematic.
Does that seem
Audrey Tang wrote:
>
> But I guess this bug ticket is not an appropriate place...
Indeed. We need a "Document :immediate" ticket.
Vishal is doing a fantastic job putting the IMCC bugs into RT. And that
pretty much wraps up this ticket (except as a parent for the others).
Thanks,
Allison
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Currently, if you use IMCC inside embedded parrot (eg. when compiling
via PGE), when a
在 2006/7/5 上午 3:06 時，Allison Randal 寫到：
Audrey Tang wrote:
But I guess this bug ticket is not an appropriate place...
Indeed. We need a "Document :immediate" ticket.
I already filed that as #39716 a few hours ago; also #39715 and
#39714, as per your suggestion:
[TODO] Document IMCC's
chromatic wrote:
>
> That doesn't quite seem fair; dynamic is a lot broader than just typing.
> Certainly any statically typed language with decent support for generic
> operations (or at least type-safe polymorphism) and a non-static loading
> scheme would be sufficiently dynamic.
>
> I can'
Audrey Tang wrote:
>
> I already filed that as #39716 a few hours ago; also #39715 and #39714,
> as per your suggestion:
Excellent.
> As I cannot modify links on rt.perl.org, can you do that for me?
Done, and I also added Vishal as a requestor on the relevant tickets.
Thanks!
Allison
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Currently, if you use IMCC inside embedded parrot (eg. when compiling
via PGE), when a sy
Audrey, Allison, and Patrick:
I am writing to enlist your help with the most recent documents that I have had
the good fortune to have Audrey review this evening.
I have released the latest version back to the
pugs/docs/perl6_compilation/perl6_compilation.pdf file to complement the
pugs/docs
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The IMCC operating in .pir->.pbc mode has a special feature of
running arbitrary Parrot
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IMCC currently relies on a lot of static globals to carry state, and
cannot reliably rest
sorry for dropping in on this late, but it was a holiday weekend :)
> * How can I help?
>
> Provide use cases, what would you want to do with Test::Harness if you
> could? What are you doing with Straps? What features do other
> testing systems (JUnit, for example) have that you'd like to see i
Geoffrey Young wrote:
> I've mentioned the idea of making it simple to use
> plan() and Test::More functions before
blarg... insert "separately" ^ here. all the rest is pretty simple
already :)
--Geoff
Randy J. Ray wrote:
I'm a fairly-recent addition to the list. I've read a good part of the
Welcome!
Secondly, having recently added digital-signing to a few of my modules,
perhaps the presence of a SIGNATURE file might be a Kwalitee marker (with
the caveat that it should be an actual Module::
Moin,
On Wednesday 05 July 2006 17:56, David Golden wrote:
> Randy J. Ray wrote:
> > I'm a fairly-recent addition to the list. I've read a good part of
> > the
>
> Welcome!
>
> > Secondly, having recently added digital-signing to a few of my
> > modules, perhaps the presence of a SIGNATURE file mi
On 7/3/06, Paul Seamons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
It isn't specifically a parser designed for general language parsing, but
CGI::Ex::Template does have a mathematical expression parser.
Thanks, but this falls into the realm of existing wheels which is a
different part of this project.
pe
The following message from Andy Lester has been posted to perlmonks,
use.perl, and other sites, yet somehow never made it to the p6i
mailing list. I'm making sure the regular (and irregular) list readers
don't miss out on this exciting news.
~jerry
=
I've put on my overalls and rubber gloves
On Jul 5, 2006, at 2:30 PM, jerry gay wrote:
The following message from Andy Lester has been posted to perlmonks,
use.perl, and other sites, yet somehow never made it to the p6i
mailing list.
Probably because I didn't post it here. :-)
parrot/cage/todo.pod has some high-level plans and ideas
Larry (bless his wire-photographing heart) took the time to re-vamp S29.
Of course, this threw off all of my collating of S29, but that's fine
since he's actually answered more of my questions than I could have
hoped.
The fourth of July weekend was fairly slow for me, so I started with
Larry's S29
On Wed, 2006-07-05 at 16:09 -0400, Aaron Sherman wrote:
> The fourth of July weekend was fairly slow for me, so I started with
> Larry's S29 and went forward.
>
> My first pass at a revised S29 is attached.
I already see one problem. "as" slipped in, which is an operator, not a
function.
--
Aa
Hi all!
I'd like to suggest a generic proposal for the Perl Foundation Grants. Note
that I'm not going to take it myself, because I just started a new job and
would like to commit to it. However, I can be the mentor for this grant. I'm
posting it here to get some reactions before I put it in my
On Wednesday 05 July 2006 12:28, Shlomi Fish wrote:
> I'd like to suggest a generic proposal for the Perl Foundation Grants. Note
> that I'm not going to take it myself, because I just started a new job and
> would like to commit to it. However, I can be the mentor for this grant.
> I'm posting it
* Shlomi Fish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-07-05T15:28:28]
> The grant is about Test::Run, which is a fork of Test::Harness that aims to
> greatly refactor and modularise it. I've already revamped and re-written a
> lot of code for it, but there's still a lot that needs to be done.
[...]
> Some o
On Wednesday 05 July 2006 14:04, Andy Lester wrote:
> On Jul 5, 2006, at 3:55 PM, chromatic wrote:
> > You want TPF to pay some unspecifed and unidentified other person
> > to continue a fork of a core module that can't ever replace the core
> > module because of its licensing?
> But at least he
These TAP extension proposals and designs for parsers and questions
for details about the TAP grammar... they should all go into the Wiki.
But the Perl QA Wiki sucks. Its slow. Its spammed. UseModWiki
sucks. And I don't have the time to maintain it.
We need a new wiki. schwern.org is too ane
Michael G Schwern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> These TAP extension proposals and designs for parsers and questions
> for details about the TAP grammar... they should all go into the Wiki.
> But the Perl QA Wiki sucks. Its slow. Its spammed. UseModWiki
> sucks. And I don't have the time to maint
On Jul 5, 2006, at 4:17 PM, Michael G Schwern wrote:
We need a new wiki. schwern.org is too anemic to run anything serious
(64 megs of RAM, woo!). We need a volunteer with server space to
setup and maintain the Perl QA Wiki. I'd prefer MediaWiki (that which
Wikipedia uses). It seems the bes
On 7/5/06, Tyler MacDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I'd be happy to. yi.org is already running a few mediawikis, as well as
cpants.perl.org. Let me know and I'll get it set up.
You win! Set it up. Let us know when its online. We'll worry about
getting a proper domain/uri for it later.
Two comments, pretty much agreeing with chromatic and Ricardo:
1) How would this proposed module benefit the perl community? Why
can't you fix things in Test::Harness and send the patch in? If you fix
deployed modules, everyone wins. If you write your own module, it sits
on CPAN unused.
On Jul 5, 2006, at 3:55 PM, chromatic wrote:
You want TPF to pay some unspecifed and unidentified other person
to continue
a fork of a core module that can't ever replace the core module
because of
its licensing?
But at least he'll act as mentor.
--
Andy Lester => [EMAIL PROTECTED] => ww
I'd prefer MediaWiki (that which
Wikipedia uses).
I'm working on making Socialtext open source right now. I plan to
put up a wiki based on it very soon.
This sounds like the best idea.
The thing about using MediaWiki is that it's not written in Perl. Not
that PHP is bad (ok, yes it is
On Jul 3, 2006, at 6:33 PM, chromatic wrote:
On Monday 03 July 2006 09:01, Jonathan T. Rockway wrote:
That said, I would be interested. I'm still trying to page all the
perl6/parrot grammars (PGE, TGE, etc.) into my brain, so any
additional
examples would helpful, interesting, and fun. Fo
Nathan Gray wrote:
>
> Overloading and other builtins was fixed in parrot and pugs
> approaching midnight (hackathon time) on 2006-06-29. If your parrot
> and pugs are both more recent than that, I'm not sure where the bug
> is.
I have the latest checkout of Parrot (I'm not using Pugs).
It may
Michael G Schwern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 7/5/06, Tyler MacDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >I'd be happy to. yi.org is already running a few mediawikis, as well as
> >cpants.perl.org. Let me know and I'll get it set up.
>
> You win! Set it up. Let us know when its online. We'll worr
On Wednesday 05 July 2006 23:51, Ricardo SIGNES wrote:
> * Shlomi Fish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-07-05T15:28:28]
>
> > The grant is about Test::Run, which is a fork of Test::Harness that aims
> > to greatly refactor and modularise it. I've already revamped and
> > re-written a lot of code for it, b
On 7/5/06, Jonathan T. Rockway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
The thing about using MediaWiki is that it's not written in Perl. Not
that PHP is bad (ok, yes it is bad...), but doesn't it send some sort of
negative message when Perl QA doesn't use a Perl-based Wiki?
Do I worry that qa.perl.org is r
On Wednesday 05 July 2006 15:02, Shlomi Fish wrote:
> Test::Run is licence-compatible with the core.
I do not think those words mean what you think they mean.
> Some of Test::Run is
> licensed under the GPL and Artistic (version 1.0) licence which is the
> licence of the perl 5 core. The other
Michael G Schwern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> You win! Set it up. Let us know when its online. We'll worry about
> >> getting a proper domain/uri for it later.
> >
> >Done! http://qa.yi.org/
>
> Thanks!
>
> Could you switch that to perl-qa.yi.org? Just to make it clear this
> isn't yi.org
On Wednesday 05 July 2006 23:55, chromatic wrote:
> On Wednesday 05 July 2006 12:28, Shlomi Fish wrote:
> > I'd like to suggest a generic proposal for the Perl Foundation Grants.
> > Note that I'm not going to take it myself, because I just started a new
> > job and would like to commit to it. Howe
On Jul 5, 2006, at 5:26 PM, chromatic wrote:
If you
cannot or will not work with the community, don't be surprised when
the
community has little interest in working with you.
Please also LISTEN to what we're saying. A thread w/Shlomi typically
has responses from Shlomi that rebut the co
On 7/5/06, Tyler MacDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Michael G Schwern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 7/5/06, Tyler MacDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >I'd be happy to. yi.org is already running a few mediawikis, as well as
> >cpants.perl.org. Let me know and I'll get it set up.
>
> You win
Author: larry
Date: Wed Jul 5 16:27:04 2006
New Revision: 9814
Modified:
doc/trunk/design/syn/S04.pod
Log:
bracket mismatch spotted by TreyHarris++
Modified: doc/trunk/design/syn/S04.pod
==
--- doc/trunk/design/syn/
Define "some" please :)
Ricardo has said he is, for example.
And, "improve compatibility" - with broken systems? OMG. :)
You mean we now don't sign packages anymore just because someone isn't
able to check the signature?
The right way is to tell the user to fix their borken system, not to
Michael G Schwern wrote:
On 7/5/06, Jonathan T. Rockway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
The thing about using MediaWiki is that it's not written in Perl. Not
that PHP is bad (ok, yes it is bad...), but doesn't it send some sort of
negative message when Perl QA doesn't use a Perl-based Wiki?
Do I w
Author: chip
Date: Wed Jul 5 17:31:15 2006
New Revision: 13170
Modified:
trunk/docs/pdds/pdd21_namespaces.pod
Changes in other areas also in this revision:
Modified:
trunk/include/parrot/global.h
trunk/include/parrot/hll.h
trunk/src/builtin.c
trunk/src/global.c
trunk/src/global
To the Illuminated Masters of CPAN and META.yml:
Apparently, my upload of Perl::Dist::Vanilla spuriously indexed
directories that I thought I had listed as "no_index".
On examination, it appears that the META.yml spec says to use a "dir"
entry under "no_index" whereas PAUSE/CPAN/search.cpan.o
Randy W. Sims wrote:
I don't know much about SocialText. Is there a converter, so that if you
put something up temporarily in MediaWiki, it can later be converted and
moved to SocialText?
I know there are a whole series of HTML::WikiConverter dialects on CPAN.
I haven't used it, but it seems
> It adds a dependency on a binary application (gpg) that users have to
> install by hand, doesn't check for the presence of it properly, and if
> you don't have it, installs an enormous chain of dependencies, with said
> deps having some major issues of their own.
>
> It's become bad enough that
Thanks to Tyler MacDonald and yi.org we now have a brand spanking new
wiki! http://perl-qa.yi.org/ is its location, we'll worry about
getting more official domains later.
Its a wiki. Go nuts. Err on the side of editing rather than doing
nothing. Not sure if something should go on the wiki? P
On Sat, Jul 01, 2006 at 03:04:05PM -0700, Matt Diephouse wrote:
> Chip Salzenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > .namespace # no key
> >means the HLL root.
>
> That resolves the other ticket I opened yesterday (good). But I'd
> prefer to have C< .namespace [] > so that we could also have the
>
Michael G Schwern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks to Tyler MacDonald and yi.org we now have a brand spanking new
> wiki! http://perl-qa.yi.org/ is its location, we'll worry about
> getting more official domains later.
Since I set up my own server for (then nx, now yi).org 8 years ago
On Tue, Jul 04, 2006 at 12:57:16PM -0700, Allison Randal wrote:
> --
>
> token start { ^*$ }
>
> regex emptyline { ^^ $$ \n }
>
> token ws { [ | \t]* }
>
> --
The above grammar doesn't have a "grammar" statement; as a result
the regexes are being installed into the '' namespace.
> If
On 7/5/06, Jonathan T. Rockway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
1) How would this proposed module benefit the perl community? Why
can't you fix things in Test::Harness and send the patch in? If you fix
deployed modules, everyone wins. If you write your own module, it sits
on CPAN unused.
What exac
On Jul 5, 2006, at 7:47 PM, David Golden wrote:
Some potential options:
(a) Add "directory" as a synonym to the spec and add "dir" as
something that CPAN sites recognize.
(b) Change the spec to "directory" -- if CPAN sites are the only
real user of META.yml no_index, then the pain should
For those of us drawn in by the postings elsewhere, not long-time
denizens of either P6 or Porters lists, a pointer to the basic HOWTO
for setting up a build-and-smoke environment that's a bit longer than
>>> svn co https://svn.perl.org/parrot/trunk parrot
would be useful.
E.g.,
* How many fre
On Wednesday 05 July 2006 19:58, Bill Ricker wrote:
> * How many free GB should I expect to need on my filesystem(s) to copy
> and build?
My source tree is 70 Mb with Svk, so 150 - 250 Mb should suffice.
> * Is there a minimum version of SVN required to access this repository?
At least 1.0, I
(Cross-posted from http://pugs.blogs.com/pugs/2006/07/
v6pm_now_runs_t.html)
Due to clkao++ and fglock++'s work, the CPAN version of v6.pm now
passes all Pugs sanity tests, up and including the Perl 6 Test.pm:
# http://search.cpan.org/dist/v6-pugs/
# http://search.cpan.org/dist/v6-pu
> On Wed, 5 Jul 2006 21:39:06 -0500, Ken Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Jul 5, 2006, at 7:47 PM, David Golden wrote:
>> Some potential options:
>>
>> (a) Add "directory" as a synonym to the spec and add "dir" as
>> something that CPAN sites recognize.
>>
>> (b) Change the s
在 2006/7/5 上午 1:26 時，George Wood 寫到：
Here are some probably for Audrey...
1. Page on Perl 6 on Haskell - Is runtime Specific AST actually
the file Language.TH.Sytnax?
Well, no, it's probably best to call it Pugs.AST, and link to src/
Pugs/AST.hs.
2. I am still trying to distinguish the
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Variables like $foo::bar don't work currently. These should take
advantage of the ne
Andreas J. Koenig wrote:
The page is there, http://thepierianspring.org/perl/meta/, but does
not provide direct statistics so I made up my own.
no_index/dir 13
no_index/directory 1397
private/directory40
David's D/DA/DAGOLDEN/Perl-Dist-Vanilla-5 used both dir and directo
Author: audreyt
Date: Wed Jul 5 22:28:06 2006
New Revision: 9815
Modified:
doc/trunk/design/syn/S11.pod
Log:
* S11: TimToady++ changes this:
use v6-**; # this caused warnings in perl5
to this:
use v6-alpha;
which has the good effect of denoting this is _not_ Perl 6.0.0
and
On Wed, Jul 05, 2006 at 09:10:47PM -0700, chromatic wrote:
> On Wednesday 05 July 2006 19:58, Bill Ricker wrote:
> > * Minimum GCC == whatever Perl5 was built with? or specific?
>
> Probably at least 2.9x.
Why? IIRC gcc 2.7 was good and stable, and it's not like C89 has changed much
in the past
> > no_index/dir 13
> > no_index/directory 1397
> > private/directory40
> As for "dir", I'm three of the 13,
I'm another three of the 13, and I'll switch to 'directory' as of the
next upload.
-- Johan
On 2/9/06, Geoffrey Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This works:
yes, excellent randy. thanks for that. it still seems a little hackish but
that's ok - hackish works for me if it means I can do what I want and nobody
else needs to do extra work :)
I made some tweaks to your format and added
On Thursday 06 July 2006 00:36, Jonathan T. Rockway wrote:
> Two comments, pretty much agreeing with chromatic and Ricardo:
>
> 1) How would this proposed module benefit the perl community? Why
> can't you fix things in Test::Harness and send the patch in? If you fix
> deployed modules, everyone
On 7/1/06, Michael G Schwern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
As my flight is delayed I'll try to make a stab at posting up the basic design.
The whole point of replacing the Perl QA wiki was to have a public
place for the TAP::Harness design to live. :)
http://perl-qa.yi.org/index.php/TAP::Harness
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