Autrijus Tang wrote:
After a IRC meeting with Leo, I've outlined my roadmap of how to make the three
compiler backends in Pugs to work in concert to provide a much faster evaluator:
http://use.perl.org/~autrijus/journal/23890
Note that existing code in the Eval monad need not be rewritten; also
Leopold Toetsch wrote:
Original Message
Subject: a warning and a failure for parrot in Tru64
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 20:41:30 +0300
From: Jarkko Hietaniemi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Leopold Toetsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
cc: Warning: pylist.pmc, line 601: In this statement, the referen
Nick Glencross wrote:
Having never had access to a Tru64 system, does that mean that parrot
is compiled 64 bit?
Two initial comments:
* This is a platform that we've not had a chance to test on, so I'm
grateful to see it tested on a new platform. It was hoped that it
would work, but to stop t
On Thu, 2005-03-31 at 16:46 +, Mark Stosberg wrote:
> Hello,
Hello,
>
> I've been working on a Perl test suite for darcs, with notable recent
> help from Schwern.
>
> We used to have tests that looked like this:
>
>like(`echo y | darcs command`,qr/$re/);
>
> That would run the comma
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A small patch to:
* Give Jens credit for yesterday's enhancements (I think that I'
On Thu, 2005-03-31 at 23:46 -0800, Darren Duncan wrote:
> What I want to be able to do is compare two references to see if they
> point to the same thing, in this case an object, but in other cases
> perhaps some other type of thing.
Let's be clear about the difference between P5 and P6 here. I
Hi all,
I am still working on PAPAgei - the PAscal for PArrot
compiler which is my final year project at I.T.
Carlow.
My (tentative) approach is to use PRD for parsing and
taking Dan's article on building a compiler for parrot
as a guide, I wanted to build an ISO pascal compiler
starting with a v
On Thu, Mar 31, 2005 at 11:46:22PM -0800, Darren Duncan wrote:
: So, what is the operator for reference comparison?
The =:= operator is almost certainly what you want here.
Larry
Sam Vilain writes:
> Darren Duncan wrote:
> >Now I seem to remember reading somewhere that '===' will do what I want,
> >but I'm now having trouble finding any mention of it.
> >So, what is the operator for reference comparison?
>
> As someone who wrote a tool that uses refaddr() and 0+ in Perl 5
: On Thu, 2005-03-31 at 23:46 -0800, Darren Duncan wrote:
On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 08:04:22AM -0500, Aaron Sherman wrote:
:
: > What I want to be able to do is compare two references to see if they
: > point to the same thing, in this case an object, but in other cases
: > perhaps some other type
On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 08:39:52AM -0700, Luke Palmer wrote:
: I'm pretty sure that =:= does what you want. If you have two scalar
: references, you might have to spell it like this:
:
: $$x =:= $$y
Unnecessary, I think. I want
$x =:= @y
to tell me whether the reference in $x is to th
At 06:33 AM 4/1/2005, Nick Glencross wrote:
Having never had access to a Tru64 system, does that mean that parrot is
compiled 64 bit?
Two initial comments:
* This is a platform that we've not had a chance to test on, so I'm
grateful to see it tested on a new platform. It was hoped that it woul
On Thu, Mar 31, 2005 at 12:41:43PM -0500, Matthew Zimmerman wrote:
> One possibility is attached.
Thanks, applied.
Nicholas Clark
According to Abhijit Mahabal:
> sub f2c (Num $temp doc "Temperature in degrees F") {...}
Nce.
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then leave the actual work to others.
On Fri, 2005-04-01 at 10:46, Larry Wall wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 08:04:22AM -0500, Aaron Sherman wrote:
> : In P6, an object is a data-type. It's not a reference, and any member
> : payload is attached directly to the variable.
>
> Well, it's still a reference, but we try to smudge the di
Hi!
On Sun, Mar 27, 2005 at 11:40:45AM +0100, Tony Bowden wrote:
> There are now two kwalitee tests for 'has_test_pod' and
> 'has_test_pod_coverage'. These check that there are test scripts for
> POD correctness and POD coverage.
Actually they check if Test::Pod and Test::Pod::Coverage are used
On Fri, 2005-04-01 at 21:00 +0200, Thomas Klausner wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 27, 2005 at 11:40:45AM +0100, Tony Bowden wrote:
> > We should be very wary of stipulating HOW authors have to achieve their
> > quality. Saying you can only check your POD in one specific way goes to
> > far IMO.
>
> That'
On Thu, 31 Mar 2005, Leopold Toetsch wrote:
We gonna switch to SVN soon.
3) If no one utters a killer argument against, we'll switch to SVN
I tried svn again. I'm happy to report it worked much better than it did
the last time I tried it. For one thing, it actually compiled for me.
It's still
Hi!
On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 10:59:04AM -0800, chromatic wrote:
> Why, then, is suggesting that people ship tests for POD errors and
> coverage a good idea?
I'm not 100% sure if it's a good idea, but it's an idea.
But then, if I write some test (eg to check pod coverage), why should I not
ship
Hi,
I've been in contact with the author of Net-SSLeay about testing his
module. One limitation I have to work with is that the module has to
work out of the box with perl 5.6.0 which doesn't include the
Test::Simple and Test::More modules.
I guess this limits me to using the old Test module. He
On Fri, 2005-04-01 at 21:43 +0200, Thomas Klausner wrote:
> But then, if I write some test (eg to check pod coverage), why should I not
> ship them? It's a good feeling to let others know that I took some extra
> effort to make sure everything works.
If I use Devel::Cover to check my test coverag
Walter Goulet wrote:
Hi,
I've been in contact with the author of Net-SSLeay about testing his
module. One limitation I have to work with is that the module has to
work out of the box with perl 5.6.0 which doesn't include the
Test::Simple and Test::More modules.
I guess this limits me to using the o
On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 09:00:17PM +0200, Thomas Klausner wrote:
> Anyway, I invite everybody to suggest new metrics
I'd like the "is pre-req" thing to be more useful. Rather than a binary
yes/no thing (and the abuses it leads to), I'd rather have something
akin to Google's Page Rank, where the s
On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 09:00:17PM +0200, Thomas Klausner wrote:
> > We should be very wary of stipulating HOW authors have to achieve their
> > quality. Saying you can only check your POD in one specific way goes to
> > far IMO.
> That's a good point.
> OTOH, I know of several people who added Pod
At 7:37 AM -0800 4/1/05, Larry Wall wrote:
On Thu, Mar 31, 2005 at 11:46:22PM -0800, Darren Duncan wrote:
: So, what is the operator for reference comparison?
The =:= operator is almost certainly what you want here.
Larry
Thanks to everyone for their answers. Last night I started coding
with =:=
Larry Wall skribis 2005-04-01 7:47 (-0800):
> : $$x =:= $$y
> Unnecessary, I think. I want
> $x =:= @y
> to tell me whether the reference in $x is to the same array as @y.
But
my $foo;
my $bar := $foo;
my $baz = \$foo;
$foo :=: $bar; # true
$foo :=: $baz; # also t
Juerd skribis 2005-04-01 22:35 (+0200):
> $foo :=: $bar; # true
> $foo :=: $baz; # also true?!
> IMO, :=: should not auto(de)reference.
s:g/:=:/=:=/
Juerd
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On Mar 30, 2005, at 6:16 PM, Michael G Schwern wrote:
On Wed, Mar 30, 2005 at 05:53:37PM -0500, Randy W. Sims wrote:
Should we completely open this up so that
requires/recommends/conflicts
can be applied to any action?
install_recommends => ...
testcover_requires => ...
etc.
This sounds useful an
On Mar 29, 2005, at 10:44 PM, Randy W. Sims wrote:
Michael G Schwern wrote:
On Tue, Mar 29, 2005 at 08:33:48PM -0500, Randy W. Sims wrote:
A quickie sample implementation to add more meat. I didn't apply yet
mainly because I'm wondering if we shouldn't bail and do a complete
roll-back (eg. don't
My impression from the author was that he didn't want me bundling any
additional modules with Net-SSLeay. Maybe I don't fully understand
your suggestion...
On Apr 1, 2005 2:07 PM, Randy W. Sims <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Walter Goulet wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've been in contact with the author o
Ken Williams wrote:
Since the 'build', 'test', and 'install' actions are considered the
"critical path" for installing a module, I think it makes sense to warn
(not die) during "perl Build.PL" when one of their
required/recommended/conflict dependencies aren't met. Thereafter, only
die/warn wh
On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 01:47:36PM -0600, Walter Goulet wrote:
> Finally, I wanted to confirm an assumption: I can split test.pl into a
> set of seperate t/*.t test scripts regardless of whether I'm using
> Test or Test::More.
Yes. Or neither or both.
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Ken Williams wrote:
On Mar 30, 2005, at 6:16 PM, Michael G Schwern wrote:
On Wed, Mar 30, 2005 at 05:53:37PM -0500, Randy W. Sims wrote:
Should we completely open this up so that requires/recommends/conflicts
can be applied to any action?
install_recommends => ...
testcover_requires => ...
etc.
Th
On Thu, Mar 31, 2005 at 06:13:57PM +0200, Leopold Toetsch wrote:
> Luke Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Leopold Toetsch writes:
> >> But with one more indirection a PIC-like scheme can work with
> >> read-only bytecode too (probably). E.g. the assembler emits instead
> >> of the proposed:
> >
On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 01:47:36PM -0600, Walter Goulet ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
> I've been in contact with the author of Net-SSLeay about testing his
> module. One limitation I have to work with is that the module has to
> work out of the box with perl 5.6.0 which doesn't include the
> Test::S
Why is there a scoreboard? Why do we care about rankings? Why is it
necessary to compare one measure to another? What purpose is being
served?
xoxo,
Andy
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Well ok, but then you have to pull it off of the Phalanx 100. Either
that, or we convince the author of the benefits of upgrading the
testing infrastructure. I'm not sure what is driving him to keep the
module compatible with 5.6.0 (especially since the testing modules
were added to 5.6.2).
On Apr
Juerd wrote (with substitution applied):
IMO, =:= should not auto(de)reference.
So you expect $bar to contain value 2 and detach from $foo?
How would one then reach the value in $foo? With $$baz?
And for longer chains of referene with a corresponding number
of $ on the front? But IIRC that was obvi
MrJoltCola wrote:
At 06:33 AM 4/1/2005, Nick Glencross wrote:
Having never had access to a Tru64 system, does that mean that parrot
is compiled 64 bit?
Two initial comments:
* This is a platform that we've not had a chance to test on, so I'm
grateful to see it tested on a new platform. It was
So far http://pleac.sourceforge.net/ has comparative Perl Cookbook
example for these languages:
- perl, 100.00% done (naturally, since they're from the book)
- python, 63.43% done
- ruby, 62.43% done
- guile, 30.00% done
- merd, 28.86% done
- ada, 26.00% done
- tcl, 25.00% done
- ocaml, 24
Thomas Sandlaß skribis 2005-04-01 23:37 (+0200):
> Juerd wrote (with substitution applied):
> >IMO, =:= should not auto(de)reference.
> So you expect $bar to contain value 2 and detach from $foo?
No. But if you said $baz instead of $bar, then yes.
> How would one then reach the value in $foo? Wit
On Apr 1, 2005, at 2:55 PM, Christopher H. Laco wrote:
If build, test, and install are considered the critical path, why was
Build/make never changed to simple run "test" always as part of the
builds success or failure?
Just curious. In a way, I'd be much happier if 'perl Build' or 'make'
outri
Just a quick question:
Is there currently any method of determining the depth of the lexical
scope pad stack? None of the ops in var.pod seem to be able to provide
that information at the moment...
Cory
Is there currently any method of determining the depth of the lexical scope
pad stack? None of the ops in var.pod seem to be able to provide that
information at the moment...
Actually, I suppose I should clarify what I want to get at here, which is
when lexical pads popped off the stack. Am I
On Fri, 2005-04-01 at 16:57, Tim Bunce wrote:
> So far http://pleac.sourceforge.net/ has comparative Perl Cookbook
> example for these languages:
[...]
> The maintainer, Guillaume Cottenceau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, is very happy to
> accept perl6 versions of Perl Cookbook examples.
Presumably people
HaloO Juerd,
you wrote:
Thomas Sandlaß skribis 2005-04-01 23:37 (+0200):
So you expect $bar to contain value 2 and detach from $foo?
No. But if you said $baz instead of $bar, then yes.
Ohh sorry, I mis-read your mail as talking about chains of
references: $baz to $bar to $foo to 2. The last step co
Larry Wall wrote:
On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 08:39:52AM -0700, Luke Palmer wrote:
: I'm pretty sure that =:= does what you want. If you have two scalar
: references, you might have to spell it like this:
:
: $$x =:= $$y
Unnecessary, I think. I want
$x =:= @y
to tell me whether the referenc
Tony Bowden wrote:
On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 09:00:17PM +0200, Thomas Klausner wrote:
Anyway, I invite everybody to suggest new metrics
I'd like the "is pre-req" thing to be more useful. Rather than a binary
yes/no thing (and the abuses it leads to), I'd rather have something
akin to Google's Page Ra
Since it seems everyone is asleep, I figured I would email this to the
list instead of just blurt it on IRC.
I noticed that mugwump moved the perl6 ext/ modules (all except for
Test actually) to modules/. His reasoning on IRC:
I'm renaming stevan's modules into modules/, ext/ is for
stuff tha
James Mastros wrote:
$x = 42;
$a = \$x but false;
$b = \$y but blue;
Assuming you meant \$x in the last row we are dealing with three values:
42 but true
42 but false
42 but blue
Which are not identical but equal. The first value is not necessarily
implemented that way because the boolean value can
On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 07:00:32PM -0500, Stevan Little wrote:
> First what we need:
>
> - a folder for working perl6 modules such as Test, FileSpec and such.
Let's call it ext/. In the future we may factor them out to FreePAN.
In particular, I think Pugs-Documentation still belongs to ext/.
>
I've just had an IRC discussion with Autrijus, and we've put together
the following plan for the pugs hack-a-thon, to occur for 4 days
immediately preceeding the Toronto YAPC::NA conference.
The venue will be at my cottage, about 1 1/2 hour drive from Toronto.
Autrijus will be arriving in Toronto
Attached is my make test output from my laptop running Fedora Core 3
x86_64bit: makeTest.txt
Is there any other way I can help?
Jay Scherrer
On Fri, 2005-04-01 at 11:24 -0500, MrJoltCola wrote:
> At 06:33 AM 4/1/2005, Nick Glencross wrote:
>
> >Having never had access to a Tru64 system, does tha
On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 03:30:44PM -0600, Andy Lester wrote:
> Why is there a scoreboard? Why do we care about rankings? Why is it
> necessary to compare one measure to another? What purpose is being
> served?
I presume you mean the CPAN scoreboard? Or maybe the Kwalitee scoreboard,
it doesn't
Luke Palmer wrote:
Supposing I had a "doc" trait, could I say:
sub f2c (Num $temp doc)
doc
{...}
Or would I be forced to spell it doc('stuff') ?
Well, first you need an `is` somewhere in there. And after that I think
you'll need to do it in doc('stuff') form. If we did allow doc<>,
S03 does not seem to detail a complete list of all Perl 6 operators.
For example, it explicitly mentions += but does not mention -=
Googling around, I found the Perl 6 Periodic Table of Operators
http://www.ozonehouse.com/mark/blog/code/PeriodicTable.html
(which I assume does not form part of the
Another way to look at it is sometimes its useful to just play with
the data,
graph it in different ways and see what comes out. Maybe nothing
comes out.
Maybe something does. Publish the results, see what happens.
I understand that, but it seems to have gone past playing data.
I'm just not com
On 1 Apr, Stevan Little wrote:
: - a folder for working perl6 modules such as Test, FileSpec and such.
Out of curiosity, shouldn't that be lib?
: - a folder for non-working perl6 modules such as what is in modules/
: right now
I don't understand.
: - a folder for perl5 modules which are need
On 2 Apr, Autrijus Tang wrote:
: Does that sound sane?
Yes; definitely more sane than my "suggestion".
Steven Schubiger
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