chromatic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Larry is shockingly good at that synthesis. (Just ask Piers Cawley;
> he'll wax eloquent on the subject.)
I'm not sure 'eloquent' is quite the adjective you were looking
for. 'incoherent'?
On Mon, Nov 24, 2003 at 04:40:23PM -0800, Michael G Schwern wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 24, 2003 at 05:00:38PM -0700, Luke Palmer wrote:
> > my $n;
> > while $n++ then @accum < $total {
> > ...
> > }
> >
> > (Where I got in trouble for using C and never executing anything :-)
> >
> >
Damian Conway writes:
> Perhaps this is yet another argument for insisting on:
>
> while do {$n++; $foo > $bar}
>
> instead.
Yes please! Is anybody here a fan of the C comma? I don't think I've
ever used it -- well, not intentionally, anyway -- but these are the
situations where I've sp
Hey unix folks, does test 10 in t/src/io.t succed on your OS?
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> Currently it isn't prohibitied. That is the only way to detect an error
> from PIO_open* at this time.
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On Mon, 24 Nov 2003, Melvin Smith wrote:
> We DO need a Parrot Programming FAQ. I propose the IMCC faq functions
> as just that. We can still have the current Parrot FAQ, which is
> great at answering generic questions for people who haven't swallowed
> the blue pill yet. (Or was it the red pill,
On Mon, 24 Nov 2003, Leopold Toetsch wrote:
> Dan Sugalski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Mon, 24 Nov 2003, Leopold Toetsch wrote:
>
> >> In the mean time I've checked in freeze/thaw for PerlHash. It uses an
> >> element count as list does. We could of course use your proposed scheme
> >
"Vladimir Lipsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hey unix folks, does test 10 in t/src/io.t succed on your OS?
Yes, I just tested it again.
patch applied.
boe
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Melvin Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> At 11:45 AM 11/24/2003 +0300, Vladimir Lipsky wrote:
> >Hi everyone!
> >
> >In t/src/io.c, specifically test 9 and 10, I wonder if the PIO_eof check up
> >works anywhere; because I didn't manage to find any place where the
> >PIO_F_EOF flag is set up when
"Thies C. Arntzen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> hiya,
>
> still working onm this php-compiler;-)
> thanx for all the replies on my last issue..
>
> next question: calling conventions.
> in the calling_convertion.pod you say that the callee should
Folks,
I just committed a patch to disable the "Your program has crashed, want to
send a report to Microsoft" box that pops up on Win32 when Parrot
segfaults -- it blocks the automated test builds which as you might expect
happens with some regularity. :) However I'm not sure if this ought be the
At 05:03 PM 11/25/2003 +0100, Juergen Boemmels wrote:
Melvin Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> In PIO_open the ParrotIO object never gets created if there is
> an error condition.
But PIO_open returns a valid IO-PMC which just has a NULL in its data
segment. Maybe it should return PMCNULL if the
Hi,
the test in imcc/t/imcpasm/{pcc,optc}.t are currently failing. First I
thought this was a problem with my setup because most tinderbox were
green. It took me a while until I found out that they also fail, but
you need to look in the logs to see it. Is there a bug in the
tinderbox-code?
Anyway
It my fault. I was messing around with labels. I have a pending
patch to clarify some more things in the API so for now we just
need to disable the imcc/t/imcpasm tests.
Global labels get fixup and are loaded into global table by packfile.
The local labels don't need to be globals.
-Melvin
J
Simon Cozens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Luke Palmer:
>> So modules that introduce new concepts into the language can add new
>> syntax for them without working with (ugh) a source filter. And some of
>> these new syntaxes in the "core" language will actually be in standard
>> modules, if they'r
Jonathan Scott Duff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 08:23:30PM +, Smylers wrote:
>> This, however, is irritating:
>>
>> my @new = map { s:e/$pattern/$replacement/; $_ } @old;
>>
>> I forget the C<; $_> far more often than I like to admit and end up with
>> an array of
On 2003-11-25 at 18:17:04, Piers Cawley wrote:
>aString replace: aPattern with: aString.
>
>aString replaceAll: aPattern with: aString.
Stop! Stop that at once! No small talk; we're here for
serious discussions!
:)
> Except... the second argument isn't strictly a string because it's
>
Piers Cawley writes:
> Simon Cozens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > But it isn't, and I don't know why it isn't, and so we end up
> > spending loads of time discussing things that can be punted out to
> > modules. Designing Perl 6 is hard enough; let's not try to fill
> > CP6AN at the same time.
>
"Mark J. Reed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On 2003-11-25 at 18:17:04, Piers Cawley wrote:
>>aString replace: aPattern with: aString.
>>
>>aString replaceAll: aPattern with: aString.
>
> Stop! Stop that at once! No small talk; we're here for
> serious discussions!
>
> :)
>
>> Except...
On 2003-11-25 at 19:53:09, Piers Cawley wrote:
> Is that how Ruby does it then?
=begin RubyDigression
Ruby's String class has the methods sub (replace once) and gsub
(replace all), which leave the invocant alone and return the
result of the substitution, and sub! and gsub!, which modify the
invoc
On Mon, 24 Nov 2003, Jonathan Scott Duff wrote:
> or maybe throw some latin in there
>
> while $n++ et @accum < $total { ... }
> while $n++ cum @accum < $total { ... } # maybe?
I think "ac" is the latin conjunction you want.
ac : conj. and, and also, and besides
On 2003-11-25 at 13:46:39, John Williams wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Nov 2003, Jonathan Scott Duff wrote:
> > or maybe throw some latin in there
> >
> > while $n++ et @accum < $total { ... }
> > while $n++ cum @accum < $total { ... } # maybe?
>
> I think "ac" is the latin conjunction you
On Tue, Nov 25, 2003 at 01:03:19PM +1100, Damian Conway wrote:
> Schwern observed:
> >This may be a consequence of the example used
> >
> > while $n++ then $foo > $bar
> >
> >which I immediately associated with.
> >
> > if $n++ then $foo > $bar
>
> Yeah, I can certainly see that.
>
> Perh
Damian Conway wrote:
> Micheal G. Schwern wrote:
>
> > It also doesn't convey anything about "evaluate the left
> > hand side, ignore the results and evaluate the right".
>
> I think that's exactly what it conveys:
>
> The suspect drank half a dozen double whiskys then drove
> into
Jonathan Scott Duff wrote:
> or maybe throw some latin in there
>
> while $n++ et @accum < $total { ... }
> while $n++ cum @accum < $total { ... } # maybe?
"Et," of course, is unsuitable as a direct synonym for "and."
I'm afraid that adding the second would cause Perl sourc
On Tue, Nov 25, 2003 at 01:46:39PM -0700, John Williams wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Nov 2003, Jonathan Scott Duff wrote:
> > or maybe throw some latin in there
> >
> > while $n++ et @accum < $total { ... }
> > while $n++ cum @accum < $total { ... } # maybe?
>
> I think "ac" is the latin c
> -Original Message-
> From: Adam Turoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Tue, Nov 25, 2003 at 01:03:19PM +1100, Damian Conway wrote:
> > Schwern observed:
> > Perhaps this is yet another argument for insisting on:
> >
> > while do {$n++; $foo > $bar}
> >
> > instead.
>
> That looks li
Austin Hastings writes:
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Adam Turoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > On Tue, Nov 25, 2003 at 01:03:19PM +1100, Damian Conway wrote:
> > > Schwern observed:
>
> > > Perhaps this is yet another argument for insisting on:
> > >
> > > while do {$n++; $foo
On Tue, Nov 25, 2003 at 04:48:08PM -0700, Luke Palmer wrote:
> Austin Hastings writes:
> > "C" style C loops then look like:
> >
> > for (($a = 0; $b = $num_elts); $a < @arry; ($a++; $b -= $offset)) {...}
>
> By which you mean
>
> loop ($a = 0; $b = $num_elts); $a < @arry; ($a++; $b -= $of
Adam Turoff wrote:
> Damian Conway wrote:
>
> > Perhaps this is yet another argument for insisting on:
> >
> > while do {$n++; $foo > $bar}
> >
> > instead.
>
> That looks like syntactic sugar for
>
> while (do) {$n++; $foo > $bar}
do is not merely prototyped, but a builtin. With
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Hi,
when checking up on 'imcfaq.pod' I noticed that this file wasn't mentioned
If it blocks the automated test builds, then just turning the box off is
okay. It must be admitted that, the truth is that I don't know anybody
who does send those reports
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November
The Perl 6 Summary for the fortnight ending 20031123
Right, hopefully things are back to normal(ish) after the disk crashes
that rather spoilt the last summary. I've managed to fill in my mail
archive too so this summary will cover the events of the last fortnight
(that's two weeks
The Perl 6 Summarizer wrote:
Do Steve Fink's debugging for him
Steve Fink had a problem with some generated code throwing a segfault
when it was run and, having hit the debugging wall himself, posted the
code to the list and asked help. Leo tracked down the bug in Parrot and
fixed it.
> I think separating the IMCC and parrot programming FAQs, or making the
> IMCC faq a section of a larger Parrot FAQ, would be better. The IMCC FAQ
> really ought to be about syntax rather than semantics.
Patches welcome.
:-J
-R
At Wed, 26 Nov 2003 05:20:50 +0300,
Vladimir Lipsky wrote:
>
> If it blocks the automated test builds, then just turning the box off is
> okay. It must be admitted that, the truth is that I don't know anybody
> who does send those reports
More important -- is the Segfault reported in any other ma
Juergen Boemmels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> No, I think we need to rethink the wrapping technology (which I
> introduced). Something like:
> struct parrot_io_t {
> PObj pobj;
> UINTVAL flags;
> PIOHANDLE fd;
> ...
> };
> But this needs to allocate garbage-collected memory of
> sizeof(str
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