Nick, make a decision. As for myself, I won't sit back and watch this.
yaphet jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> despite all "cyber" appearances to the contrary, i'm one of you - but
who?
I've been looking back through my archives trying to figure out who you
are. You are certainly not someon
yaphet jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> this is completely false when applied to real programming languages.
Please disclose what language you represent.
> => example 1: php
> => relatively easy to learn
> . retains basic perl syntax
> . less cryptic (but more verbose)
>
yaphet jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Feeding the troll:
>
> careful with the troll talk: remember, your god's favorite book
> is the "lord of the rings"...chock full of trolls...and hobbits, too!
>
> >> => example 2: ruby
> >> => now more popular than python in its native japan
gentlemen - gomen nasai!
you have my sincere apologies for staying on p6-language so long.
i've went and woke david g. up, whose prescription has *obviously*
run out. kindly let me know when he's gone back to sleep. (-_-) zzz
ja ne! -- yaphet
...python?
...win32?
...really?
--
On 17 Feb 2001 20:53:51 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
>Could
>people please take the advocacy traffic elsewhere where it isn't noise?
Advocacy is noise everywhere.
That doesn't mean that davocates for either side don't have anything
interesting to say. For starters, it's usually dissatisfaction wi
On Sun, Feb 18, 2001 at 02:01:55AM -0800, yaphet jones wrote:
> gentlemen - gomen nasai!
dou itashimashite. I have to be honest, it's not very often I'm called a
dimwit. Certainly not twice.
But there is a deeper problem! People appear to be losing their sense of
satire; this is terrible! Soon
On Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 11:48:27PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 08:57:02PM -0500, Bryan C . Warnock wrote:
> > Particularly after this:
> >
> > http://news.cnet.com/investor/news/newsitem/0-9900-1028-4825719-RHAT.html?tag=ltnc
>
> "Innovation-- you keep using this wo
At 12:12 PM 2/18/2001 +0100, Bart Lateur wrote:
>On 17 Feb 2001 20:53:51 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
>
> >Could
> >people please take the advocacy traffic elsewhere where it isn't noise?
>
>Advocacy is noise everywhere.
Not on [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(http://lists.perl.org/showlist.cgi?name=advocacy)
I don't care who's trolling who, or who's not trolling who. I don't
want to hear Yet Another
My-Language-Is-Cleaner-Than-Perl-And-Will-Beat-The-Pants-Off-It
argument.
Get this off perl6-*. Take it to clpm or your local NY.pm meeting.
Its all been said.
> [subject]: "It's funny. Laugh."
I know. I was having fun. We haven't had a lurktrollmuffin in here before
and it was a good diversion from the drollery of waiting...
'Sides, I happen to _like_ defending Perl from nonsensicals, especially
particularly abusive ones.
Simon Cozens <[EMAIL PROTEC
Bart Lateur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> That doesn't mean that davocates for either side don't have anything
> interesting to say. For starters, it's usually dissatisfaction with
> certain aspects of some languages that causes the birth of yet another
> new language, such as PHP (which is more
At 11:25 AM 2/18/2001 +, David Grove wrote:
>Did Larry ever say WHY he was learning Japanese? Of course, as a linguist
>myself, I realize that there doesn't have to BE a reason, but I figure it
>might have something to do with either unicode or hiroshiman monkery. ;-)
Anime, I think. Which st
Hi all,
I'm trying to locate information about the Perl 6 Language, i.e. what
changes are proposed to the Perl language and so on.
Can anyone point me in the right direction ???
Espen Harlinn
Senior Engineer, Software
Seamos AS
-
mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Espen Harlinn writes:
> I'm trying to locate information about the Perl 6 Language, i.e. what
> changes are proposed to the Perl language and so on.
> Can anyone point me in the right direction ???
In case anyone else is wondering:
http://dev.perl.org/
Nat
On Sun, Feb 18, 2001 at 03:22:47PM -0500, Dan Sugalski wrote:
> At 11:25 AM 2/18/2001 +, David Grove wrote:
> >Did Larry ever say WHY he was learning Japanese?
>
> Anime, I think. Which strikes me as a perfectly reasonable reason to learn
> Japanese. (It's the one I use... :)
"Coding in Ruby
On Sun, Feb 18, 2001 at 11:50:36AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
> > That doesn't mean that davocates for either side don't have anything
> > interesting to say.
>
> Sure. However, when it's being presented in the fashion that it's being
> presented in this thread, it hits my mental filters and is
On Sun, Feb 18, 2001 at 01:11:35AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 18, 2001 at 04:45:46AM +, Simon Cozens wrote:
> > On Sat, Feb 17, 2001 at 05:00:51PM -0800, Peter Scott wrote:
> > > Simon Cozens submitted a patch which failed the test
> >
> > ...and MJD and Jarkko and I worked
> > --- t/run/runenv.t 2001/02/18 05:58:06 1.1
> > +++ t/run/runenv.t 2001/02/18 06:09:10
>
> Applied, thanks.
(Had to add run/*.t to the list of testables in t/TEST.)
--
$jhi++; # http://www.iki.fi/jhi/
# There is this special biologist word we use for 'stable'.
# It is
> print < I consider a module without tests or documentation to be a syntax
> error. Maybe perl should refuse to run a module without POD and
> MakeMaker should refuse to install a module without tests unless given
> a special flag. Then people will sometimes forget to use that flag
> and they'l
On Sat, Feb 17, 2001 at 05:00:51PM -0800, Peter Scott wrote:
> Simon Cozens submitted a patch which failed the test
...and MJD and Jarkko and I worked on it and we put together something
which was OK.
--
You're not Dave. Who are you?
From: Edward Peschko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
...
> I'm beginning to think there should be an extra flag that turns
> *on* warnings
> even if 'no warnings' is explicitly stated. This is the 'enable
> me to help you
> out' flag. That way, it would be a lot easier for me as a module
> consume
On Sun, Feb 18, 2001 at 07:30:50PM -, Paul Marquess wrote:
> From: Edward Peschko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>
> ...
> > I'm beginning to think there should be an extra flag that turns
> > *on* warnings
> > even if 'no warnings' is explicitly stated. This is the 'enable
> > me to help you
subarashii! < eigo no kotoba = "wonderful!" >
>"Coding in Ruby" to the tune of "Turning Japanese" by The Vapors
> with endless apologies to everyone involved.
creativity! at last! actually, i'm all smiles (^_^)
>I've got your tarball, I've got your tarball
>I'm milling over installing it myse
On Sun, Feb 18, 2001 at 02:16:21PM -0800, Edward Peschko wrote:
> The things you mention are procedural. And as tempting as it is to enforce a
> little vigor on procedure, I agree with you. I don't want to make a coding
> architecture on by default..
The decision to write tests and docs is proce
On Fri, 16 Feb 2001 21:03:54 -0800, Edward Peschko wrote:
>It is one hell of a burden to find a missing 'use strict' or 'use warnings'.
>'Well, type them then' you say. Right, and always type ';' at each line, or 1;
>at the end of each file. Its as unavoidable as a *syntax error*, which is the
>
On Sun, Feb 18, 2001 at 12:11:05PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I don't care who's trolling who, or who's not trolling who. I don't
> want to hear Yet Another
> My-Language-Is-Cleaner-Than-Perl-And-Will-Beat-The-Pants-Off-It
> argument.
>
> Get this off perl6-*. Take it to clpm or your loc
If anyone's not familiar, a daily build and smoke test is the practice
of building the entire system and running its tests every night to see
if anything was broken durning the day's work. Turn it on, see if it
smokes. This reduces the scope of bugs and keeps things from
festering. You know the
Dan Sugalski wrote:
> >If PMC is a pointer to a structure, "new" will need to allocate memory for a
> >new structure, and hence the value of mypmc will have to change.
>
> Nope. PMC structures will be parcelled out from arenas and not malloc'd,
> and they won't be freed and re-malloced much. If
At 12:45 AM 2/19/2001 +, Alan Burlison wrote:
>Dan Sugalski wrote:
>
> > >If PMC is a pointer to a structure, "new" will need to allocate memory
> for a
> > >new structure, and hence the value of mypmc will have to change.
> >
> > Nope. PMC structures will be parcelled out from arenas and not
Simon Cozens wrote:
> Larry has guaranteed that Perl 6 will be built "out of the same source tree"
> as Perl 5.
Whatever that means... i.e. not much.
> This is a major win for us in two areas. Firstly, we can reuse the
> information determined by Perl 5's Configure process to help make Perl 6
>
Dan Sugalski wrote:
> Grab one via a utility function. getPMC() or something of the sort.
newPMC() ? ;-)
Alan Burlison
At 02:18 PM 2/18/01 -0800, Edward Peschko wrote:
>On Sun, Feb 18, 2001 at 07:30:50PM -, Paul Marquess wrote:
> > From perllexwarn:
> >
> > -W
> >
> > If the -W flag is used on the command line, it will enable
> > all warnings throughout the program regardless of whether warnings
> > we
At 01:13 AM 2/19/2001 +, Alan Burlison wrote:
>Dan Sugalski wrote:
>
> > Grab one via a utility function. getPMC() or something of the sort.
>
>newPMC() ? ;-)
Works for me. Though for some reason it brings up visions of the Village
People, and that's generally a Bad Thing... :)
On Sun, Feb 18, 2001 at 09:34:46PM -0500, Dan Sugalski wrote:
> At 01:13 AM 2/19/2001 +, Alan Burlison wrote:
> >Dan Sugalski wrote:
> >
> > > Grab one via a utility function. getPMC() or something of the sort.
> >
> >newPMC() ? ;-)
>
> Works for me.
Slight that-sucks alert: So, if I have to
At 02:50 AM 2/19/2001 +, Simon Cozens wrote:
>On Sun, Feb 18, 2001 at 09:34:46PM -0500, Dan Sugalski wrote:
> > At 01:13 AM 2/19/2001 +, Alan Burlison wrote:
> > >Dan Sugalski wrote:
> > >
> > > > Grab one via a utility function. getPMC() or something of the sort.
> > >
> > >newPMC() ? ;-)
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