Re: RFC 124 usefulness & implementation suggestion

2000-10-18 Thread Ken Fox
Bart Lateur wrote: > But isn't there going to be a large overhead, in populating such a > "hash"? If you need an ordered data structure the overhead would be lower than using a hash. > Doesn't the tree have to be reorganized every time you add a > single new entry? No. Sometimes you may have to

Re: Transcription of Larry's talk

2000-10-18 Thread Larry Wall
Here's a (slightly) cleaned up copy of what has been transcribed so far, with at least the titles of the slides stitched in. Larry As I look around here, I see a lot of young faces. Almost too young. I like youth. I always planned to stay young all my life. I've always been blessed with a fac

Re: Transcription of Larry's talk

2000-10-18 Thread Simon Cozens
On Wed, Oct 18, 2000 at 10:32:32AM -0700, Larry Wall wrote: > Rename the local operator? Yeah, I think we ought to do that. It > confuses people when we call it local(). The problem is, of course, > that this is not a perfect solution--they haven't come up with the > right name here: savetmp, t

Re: Transcription of Larry's talk

2000-10-18 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
On Wed, Oct 18, 2000 at 06:47:59PM +0100, Simon Cozens wrote: > On Wed, Oct 18, 2000 at 10:32:32AM -0700, Larry Wall wrote: > > Rename the local operator? Yeah, I think we ought to do that. It > > confuses people when we call it local(). The problem is, of course, > > that this is not a perfect

Re: Transcription of Larry's talk

2000-10-18 Thread Larry Wall
Simon Cozens writes: : You're learning Japanese, right? It's gotta be "toriaezu".[1] :) Yes, but if we go down that route, we're gonna end up with all the verbs at the end. Instead of "print @foo", we get something like: @foo wa kaite kudasai; Larry

Re: Transcription of Larry's talk

2000-10-18 Thread Larry Wall
Jarkko Hietaniemi writes: : On Wed, Oct 18, 2000 at 06:47:59PM +0100, Simon Cozens wrote: : > On Wed, Oct 18, 2000 at 10:32:32AM -0700, Larry Wall wrote: : > > Rename the local operator? Yeah, I think we ought to do that. It : > > confuses people when we call it local(). The problem is, of cour

C Sharp?

2000-10-18 Thread David Grove
Isn't C# (C Sharp) a Microsoft-owned language that is (currently) available only on Win2k (though apparently targeted for crossplatform)? After Larry said he was thinking of making parts of Perl 6 in C#, I went on a studying rampage. I find nothing for anything except Win2k. Can someone provide

RE: Transcription of Larry's talk

2000-10-18 Thread David Grove
On Wednesday, October 18, 2000 12:59 PM, Larry Wall [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > Simon Cozens writes: > : You're learning Japanese, right? It's gotta be "toriaezu".[1] :) > > Yes, but if we go down that route, we're gonna end up with all the > verbs at the end. Instead of "print @foo", we g

Re: C Sharp?

2000-10-18 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 10:30 PM 10/18/00 -0500, David Grove wrote: >Isn't C# (C Sharp) a Microsoft-owned language that is (currently) available >only on Win2k (though apparently targeted for crossplatform)? After Larry >said >he was thinking of making parts of Perl 6 in C#, Perl's not going to be written in C#. Wha

Re: renaming local to "fornow" (or maybe just "now")

2000-10-18 Thread Nathan Torkington
David L. Nicol writes: > > interim()? > > In discussing how to rename "local" > we appear to be trading in the spatial metaphor for the temporal. > How about > fornow I'd rather not revisit this, or any other, RFC until Larry's had a chance to *really* comment and put forward his suggesti

RE: C Sharp?

2000-10-18 Thread David Grove
Ah, sorry, misunderstood. I do remember him saying it will probably be done in C with perl as the parser, with C++ dubious. I just got caught up in the C# research. On Thursday, October 19, 2000 12:10 AM, Dan Sugalski [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > At 10:30 PM 10/18/00 -0500, David Grove

Re: Transcription of Larry's talk

2000-10-18 Thread J. David Blackstone
> On Wed, Oct 18, 2000 at 10:32:32AM -0700, Larry Wall wrote: >> Rename the local operator? Yeah, I think we ought to do that. It >> confuses people when we call it local(). The problem is, of course, >> that this is not a perfect solution--they haven't come up with the >> right name here: save

Re: Transcription of Larry's talk

2000-10-18 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 01:07 AM 10/19/00 -0500, J. David Blackstone wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 18, 2000 at 10:32:32AM -0700, Larry Wall wrote: > >> Rename the local operator? Yeah, I think we ought to do that. It > >> confuses people when we call it local(). The problem is, of course, > >> that this is not a perfect s