Re: IRC discussion of smoking and branching

2007-03-29 Thread Joshua Isom
On Mar 29, 2007, at 4:20 PM, jerry gay wrote: On 3/29/07, Nicholas Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > and i'm not interested in testing every revision, > when so many might be coding standards Why are people even checking things in that fail coding standards? because not a

Re: IRC discussion of smoking and branching

2007-03-29 Thread chromatic
On Thursday 29 March 2007 23:03, Joshua Isom wrote: > One other thing I've noticed is that todo tests sometimes become > forgotten tests.  And since they're sometimes platform specific, they > don't get fixed for that platform because feature x doesn't have the > code support.  Other than doing a

Re: IRC discussion of smoking and branching

2007-03-29 Thread Joshua Isom
On Mar 29, 2007, at 10:14 PM, Will Coleda wrote: On Mar 27, 2007, at 4:45 PM, Allison Randal wrote: but, we need better smoke tools So lets document what we need. Right now 'make smoke' generates an HTML report which is uploaded to the smoke server. Talk has happened in

Re: [perl #42170] [PATCH] Report line numbers on trailing_space.t

2007-03-29 Thread jerry gay
On 3/29/07, via RT Will Coleda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: # New Ticket Created by Will Coleda # Please include the string: [perl #42170] # in the subject line of all future correspondence about this issue. # http://rt.perl.org/rt3/Ticket/Display.html?id=42170 > For steve_p on #parrot. I find

Re: relational language extension (was Re: request new Mapping|Hash operators)

2007-03-29 Thread John Beppu
Good luck w/ your studies. Viable alternatives to SQL are always welcome. ;-) On 3/23/07, Darren Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: At 7:15 PM -0700 3/23/07, John Beppu wrote: >You might find Dee interesting: > >http://www.quicksort.co.uk/ This Dee project in Python is a worthy thing to study

[perl #42170] [PATCH] Report line numbers on trailing_space.t

2007-03-29 Thread via RT
# New Ticket Created by Will Coleda # Please include the string: [perl #42170] # in the subject line of all future correspondence about this issue. # http://rt.perl.org/rt3/Ticket/Display.html?id=42170 > For steve_p on #parrot. I find this a little too verbose, but would not object if someon

Re: IRC discussion of smoking and branching

2007-03-29 Thread Will Coleda
On Mar 27, 2007, at 4:45 PM, Allison Randal wrote: but, we need better smoke tools So lets document what we need. Right now 'make smoke' generates an HTML report which is uploaded to the smoke server. Talk has happened in the past about making this more DB like instead

[perl #42169] [CAGE] Create a sample subversion/config

2007-03-29 Thread via RT
# New Ticket Created by Will Coleda # Please include the string: [perl #42169] # in the subject line of all future correspondence about this issue. # http://rt.perl.org/rt3/Ticket/Display.html?id=42169 > ala recent "IRC discussion..." thread on parrot-porters and put it in the repository in

Re: IRC discussion of smoking and branching

2007-03-29 Thread James E Keenan
Eric Hanchrow wrote: Here's the relevant bits from my config file: [miscellany] ### Set enable-auto-props to 'yes' to enable automatic properties ### for 'svn add' and 'svn import', it defaults to 'no'. ### Automatic properties are defined in the section 'auto-props'. enable-

Re: IRC discussion of smoking and branching

2007-03-29 Thread James E Keenan
Eric Hanchrow wrote: Here's the relevant bits from my config file: [miscellany] ### Set enable-auto-props to 'yes' to enable automatic properties ### for 'svn add' and 'svn import', it defaults to 'no'. ### Automatic properties are defined in the section 'auto-props'. enable-

Re: anonymous multidim values (was Re: [svn:perl6-synopsis] r14359 - doc/trunk/design/syn)

2007-03-29 Thread Larry Wall
On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 01:21:27AM -0700, Darren Duncan wrote: : At 7:28 PM -0700 3/28/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: : > =head1 Multidimensional arrays : > : >+Perl 6 arrays are not restricted to being one-dimensional (that's simply : >+the default). To declare a multidimensional array, you specify

Re: [perl #42110] [PATCH] Returning values from void functions

2007-03-29 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 04:08:58PM -0700, chromatic wrote: > On Thursday 29 March 2007 15:44, Steve Peters wrote: > > > On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 12:51:54PM -0700, Leopold Toetsch via RT wrote: > > > Sweeping dirt under the rug doesn't mean that the house has been cleaned > > up. It means I've tur

[svn:perl6-synopsis] r14366 - doc/trunk/design/syn

2007-03-29 Thread larry
Author: larry Date: Thu Mar 29 16:14:45 2007 New Revision: 14366 Modified: doc/trunk/design/syn/S09.pod Log: clarifications suggested by thom++ Modified: doc/trunk/design/syn/S09.pod == --- doc/trunk/design/syn/S09.p

Re: [perl #42110] [PATCH] Returning values from void functions

2007-03-29 Thread chromatic
On Thursday 29 March 2007 15:44, Steve Peters wrote: > On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 12:51:54PM -0700, Leopold Toetsch via RT wrote: > Sweeping dirt under the rug doesn't mean that the house has been cleaned > up. It means I've turned it into someone else's problem. I'd rather > Parrot was solid and

Re: [perl #42110] [PATCH] Returning values from void functions

2007-03-29 Thread Leopold Toetsch
Am Freitag, 30. März 2007 00:44 schrieb Steve Peters: > Sweeping dirt under the rug doesn't mean that the house has been cleaned > up. It's not related to hiding other possible errors. Some warnings are just not appropriate to the usage of the very code, and there are a lot of them. leo

Re: [perl #42110] [PATCH] Returning values from void functions

2007-03-29 Thread Steve Peters
On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 12:51:54PM -0700, Leopold Toetsch via RT wrote: > Am Mittwoch, 28. März 2007 20:41 schrieb Nicholas Clark: > > Getting parrot to build under -ansi -pedantic is left as an exercise to the > > reader. > > By filtering other useless and/or nonsensical warnings - yes - else no.

Re: [perl #42110] [PATCH] Returning values from void functions

2007-03-29 Thread Steve Peters
On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 07:41:25PM +0100, Nicholas Clark wrote: > On Tue, Mar 27, 2007 at 05:42:12AM -0700, Steve Peters via RT wrote: > > > > Anyway, it's worth noting that although one of functions actually > > > doesn't > > > return anything, it is documented as returning a PMC *. So either th

Re: [perl #42155] [PATCH] move members from Parrot_Interp to Parrot_Context

2007-03-29 Thread Leopold Toetsch
Am Donnerstag, 29. März 2007 23:01 schrieb chromatic: > On Thursday 29 March 2007 13:27, Leopold Toetsch wrote: > > > Compactness does not supersede good design. > > > > Basically & in theorie yes, but don't always forget performance. > > Until we get completeness and correctness and cleanliness, I

Re: IRC discussion of smoking and branching

2007-03-29 Thread Eric Hanchrow
> "chromatic" == chromatic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: chromatic> The line-ending coding standards tests can be a problem chromatic> in some cases, where Windows developers add new files chromatic> with their native format and forget to set the chromatic> svn:eol-style=native

Re: IRC discussion of smoking and branching

2007-03-29 Thread Paul Cochrane
> > and i'm not interested in testing every revision, > > when so many might be coding standards > Why are people even checking things in that fail coding standards? The line-ending coding standards tests can be a problem in some cases, where Windows developers add new files with t

Re: IRC discussion of smoking and branching

2007-03-29 Thread jerry gay
On 3/29/07, Nicholas Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > and i'm not interested in testing every revision, > when so many might be coding standards Why are people even checking things in that fail coding standards? because not all coding standard tests are run with 'make test'

Re: [perl #42155] [PATCH] move members from Parrot_Interp to Parrot_Context

2007-03-29 Thread chromatic
On Thursday 29 March 2007 13:27, Leopold Toetsch wrote: > > Compactness does not supersede good design. > Basically & in theorie yes, but don't always forget performance. Until we get completeness and correctness and cleanliness, I really think we should forget performance. It's awfully diffic

Re: [svn:perl6-synopsis] r14360 - doc/trunk/design/syn

2007-03-29 Thread Thom Boyer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Modified: doc/trunk/design/syn/S09.pod == ... -my @calendar[12;*;24]; # "Month" dimension unlimited +my @calendar[12;*;24]; # day-of-month dimension unlimited/ragged There's

Re: [perl #42155] [PATCH] move members from Parrot_Interp to Parrot_Context

2007-03-29 Thread Leopold Toetsch
Am Donnerstag, 29. März 2007 00:00 schrieb Alek Storm: > On 3/28/07, Leopold Toetsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 1) This ism't needed, these pointers are only valid and needed up to the > > next > > sub call/return. > > The current_results member already lives in Parrot_Context; this patch > jus

Re: IRC discussion of smoking and branching

2007-03-29 Thread chromatic
On Thursday 29 March 2007 13:05, Nicholas Clark wrote: > I don't think that the stable/development spit in Perl 5 land is broken. > There is a problem that there aren't enough people with good enough > knowledge to be committers, and in particular to want to review and apply > patches supplied by

Re: IRC discussion of smoking and branching

2007-03-29 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Tue, Mar 27, 2007 at 01:45:57PM -0700, Allison Randal wrote: > It works OK if everyone agrees that one ( or a very > few) access the maintanence branch > How many branches are we talking about 1,2 or 10 ? >Steve_p, I think Nicholas might disagree that

Re: [perl #42110] [PATCH] Returning values from void functions

2007-03-29 Thread Leopold Toetsch
Am Mittwoch, 28. März 2007 20:41 schrieb Nicholas Clark: > Getting parrot to build under -ansi -pedantic is left as an exercise to the > reader. By filtering other useless and/or nonsensical warnings - yes - else no. leo - been there, done that

[svn:perl6-synopsis] r14365 - doc/trunk/design/syn

2007-03-29 Thread larry
Author: larry Date: Thu Mar 29 12:32:03 2007 New Revision: 14365 Modified: doc/trunk/design/syn/S04.pod Log: missing words spotted by shamu++ Modified: doc/trunk/design/syn/S04.pod == --- doc/trunk/design/syn/S04.pod

[svn:perl6-synopsis] r14364 - doc/trunk/design/syn

2007-03-29 Thread larry
Author: larry Date: Thu Mar 29 12:06:16 2007 New Revision: 14364 Modified: doc/trunk/design/syn/S09.pod Log: error spotted by TSa++ Modified: doc/trunk/design/syn/S09.pod == --- doc/trunk/design/syn/S09.pod(o

Re: [svn:perl6-synopsis] r14362 - doc/trunk/design/syn

2007-03-29 Thread Dr.Ruud
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schreef: > -Attempting to access an index outside a array's defined range will > fail: > +Attempting to access an index outside an array's defined range > will fail: Idea for Perl6 test code: detecting (simple) typos in documentation. -- Affijn, Ruud "Gewoon is een tijger."

Re: [perl #42151] [PATCH] Assorted casting cleanups - part I

2007-03-29 Thread chromatic
On Thursday 29 March 2007 07:29, Steve Peters via RT wrote: > Of course, some well defined macros could assist in cleaning this up. > For example... > > #define PARROT_MEM_ALLOCATE(type) \ > (type *)mem_sys_allocate(sizeof(type)) > > I don't know the Parrot opinion of macros, but it would cer

Re: [perl #42156] [PATCH] Make invoke() return opcode_t*

2007-03-29 Thread Paul Cochrane
On 28/03/07, via RT Steve Peters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: # New Ticket Created by Steve Peters # Please include the string: [perl #42156] # in the subject line of all future correspondence about this issue. # http://rt.perl.org/rt3/Ticket/Display.html?id=42156 > In this next round of cleanu

[perl #42151] [PATCH] Assorted casting cleanups - part I

2007-03-29 Thread Steve Peters via RT
On Tue Mar 27 10:54:17 2007, doughera wrote: > On Tue, 27 Mar 2007, Steve Peters wrote: > > > # New Ticket Created by Steve Peters > > # Please include the string: [perl #42151] > > # in the subject line of all future correspondence about this issue. > > # http://rt.perl.org/rt3/Ticket/Display

[svn:perl6-synopsis] r14363 - doc/trunk/design/syn

2007-03-29 Thread larry
Author: larry Date: Thu Mar 29 07:11:09 2007 New Revision: 14363 Modified: doc/trunk/design/syn/S09.pod Log: missing blank line supplied by dduncan++ Modified: doc/trunk/design/syn/S09.pod == --- doc/trunk/design/syn

Re: [perl #37997] r10604 build failure on Cygwin

2007-03-29 Thread Ron Blaschke
Joshua Gatcomb wrote: On 3/28/07, Ron Blaschke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Joshua Gatcomb wrote: If you could hang out on #parrot (irc.perl.org) when myself, Jonathan, particle, etc are around - it would go a long way towards getting a reproduceable test case that can be correctly articulated

Re: [perl #37997] r10604 build failure on Cygwin

2007-03-29 Thread Ron Blaschke
Paul Cochrane wrote: I don't know if it's of much help, but I too am getting the Cygwin build barfing when miniparrot goes to build runtime/parrot/include/config.fpmc. I think that's actually a good sign. Try adding the absolute path to F and try again. If this is working please see my previ

Re: [perl #37997] r10604 build failure on Cygwin

2007-03-29 Thread Paul Cochrane
I don't know if it's of much help, but I too am getting the Cygwin build barfing when miniparrot goes to build runtime/parrot/include/config.fpmc. Paul

Re: [svn:perl6-synopsis] r14359 - doc/trunk/design/syn

2007-03-29 Thread TSa
HaloO, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +Similarly, within a C<.{}> indexing operation you can use C<*[$idx]> +to convert from standard indices to user-defined: + +@lengths{ *[2] .. Oct } # Same as: @lengths{ Jan .. Oct } Isn't that same as @length{Mar..Oct}? --

anonymous multidim values (was Re: [svn:perl6-synopsis] r14359 - doc/trunk/design/syn)

2007-03-29 Thread Darren Duncan
At 7:28 PM -0700 3/28/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: =head1 Multidimensional arrays +Perl 6 arrays are not restricted to being one-dimensional (that's simply +the default). To declare a multidimensional array, you specify it with a +semicolon-separated list of dimension lengths: + +my int @in