Re: outdated/incorrect S12 examples

2006-05-28 Thread Darren Duncan
At 1:45 PM +1000 5/29/06, Stuart Cook wrote: On 5/29/06, Darren Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: There are many places where the bareword "self" is used, whereas I believe the current syntax is "$?SELF" for the same thing, and has been for awhile. Actually, I seem to recall `self` being accep

Re: outdated/incorrect S12 examples

2006-05-28 Thread Stuart Cook
On 5/29/06, Darren Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I discovered in reading Synopsis 12 today that some code examples use out of date syntax, as I understand it: For example, look in the "Roles" main documentation section. There are many places where the bareword "self" is used, whereas I beli

outdated/incorrect S12 examples

2006-05-28 Thread Darren Duncan
I discovered in reading Synopsis 12 today that some code examples use out of date syntax, as I understand it: For example, look in the "Roles" main documentation section. There are many places where the bareword "self" is used, whereas I believe the current syntax is "$?SELF" for the same thin

P6U FAQ on PerlNet (was Re: $1,000 prize for Perl 6 Wiki written in Perl 6)

2006-05-28 Thread Paul Fenwick
G'day Conrad, Amir, and P6U, Conrad Schneiker wrote: > I certainly agree. However, someone has to take the initiative to actually > start using (http://perl.net.au/wiki/Perl_6), and to post links back here > for others to follow up on. Will that person be you? :-) I'm all for using > that wiki to

RE: $1,000 prize for Perl 6 Wiki written in Perl 6

2006-05-28 Thread Conrad Schneiker
> From: Darren Duncan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 2:38 PM [...] > For one thing, I'm assuming that a prize-qualifying solution won't be > able to link-in legacy Perl 5 modules using Pugs' "use perl5:Foo" > syntax; to do so would look bad if we are wanting to show off a Wi

RE: $1,000 prize for Perl 6 Wiki written in Perl 6

2006-05-28 Thread Conrad Schneiker
> -Original Message- > From: Amir E. Aharoni [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 1:54 PM [...] > It's funny - i was the first one who proposed the wiki idea and i > didn't think that it will go so far (1000$$$). If you ask me, this > wiki should be done ASAP in Media-

Re: $1,000 prize for Perl 6 Wiki written in Perl 6

2006-05-28 Thread Sebastian
> > Noone other than Mediawiki uses the Mediawiki syntax. I posit > that the reason is that that syntax blows chunks. Actually dokuwiki uses an almost the exact same syntax as mediawiki.. except they invert the headers (== foo == stuff). as for a perl6 wiki.. I agree that there are already many

Re: CGI on 6

2006-05-28 Thread Juerd
Michael Mathews skribis 2006-05-28 20:32 (+0100): > Well, one example would be Damian's Exegesis 5 at > http://dev.perl.org/perl6/doc/design/exe/E05.html which I thought was > an authorative word on the subject. Can you give me a link to working > examples of regex in pugs please? The exegeses are

Re: CGI on 6

2006-05-28 Thread Juerd
Michael Mathews skribis 2006-05-28 20:32 (+0100): > And, as an incentive, I'm offering 1000 Colombian Pesos to the first > person to author a working example of s/+/ /g; in Perl 6*. If your PGE support works, s/+/ /g still does not. It's s:g/\+/ /. Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij

RE: $1,000 prize for Perl 6 Wiki written in Perl 6

2006-05-28 Thread Conrad Schneiker
> From: Juerd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 3:55 AM [...] > Conrad Schneiker skribis 2006-05-27 14:34 (-0700): > > So I'm offering to post a $1,000 prize (The AthenaLab "The 1st Extreme > > Leverage Prize" for Perl 6), to be awarded to the person that delivers > > the > > f

Re: $1,000 prize for Perl 6 Wiki written in Perl 6

2006-05-28 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Darren Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-05-28 23:40]: > For one thing, I'm assuming that a prize-qualifying solution > won't be able to link-in legacy Perl 5 modules using Pugs' "use > perl5:Foo" syntax; to do so would look bad if we are wanting to > show off a Wiki solution using the NEW technol

Re: $1,000 prize for Perl 6 Wiki written in Perl 6

2006-05-28 Thread Darren Duncan
I'm wondering about some implementation logistics. For one thing, I'm assuming that a prize-qualifying solution won't be able to link-in legacy Perl 5 modules using Pugs' "use perl5:Foo" syntax; to do so would look bad if we are wanting to show off a Wiki solution using the NEW technology. T

Re: $1,000 prize for Perl 6 Wiki written in Perl 6

2006-05-28 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Amir E. Aharoni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-05-28 23:00]: > The popularity of Wikipedia made Media-Wiki syntax the de-facto > standard. It's not perfect, but please don't reinvent the wheel > (even though it's a PHP wheel). I plead not guilty. Markdown is nothing new, and it has half a dozen impl

Re: Unintended consequences

2006-05-28 Thread Michael G Schwern
On 5/28/06, Ricardo SIGNES <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: * Adam Kennedy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-05-27T23:48:43] > The questions that are being asked are for the user's benefit. That is > NOT being a freeloader. Freeloading is taken something from the user and > providing nothing in return. She's

Re: Unintended consequences

2006-05-28 Thread chromatic
On Sunday 28 May 2006 13:48, Michael G Schwern wrote: > More importantly, the statistics gathered would help an author to determine > who, if anyone, is using their module and on what platforms and guide their > development. What versions of Perl does one have to support? What > platforms? Do I

Re: $1,000 prize for Perl 6 Wiki written in Perl 6

2006-05-28 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Beep beep. I, for example, hate the verbosity of html, but i use it nevertheless. The popularity of Wikipedia made Media-Wiki syntax the de-facto standard. It's not perfect, but please don't reinvent the wheel (even though it's a PHP wheel). It's funny - i was the first one who proposed the wiki

Re: $1,000 prize for Perl 6 Wiki written in Perl 6

2006-05-28 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Juerd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-05-28 19:35]: > - MediaWiki-compatible syntax I hate the Mediawiki syntax. Can we have something that understands blocks, like Markdown? Just add [[foo]] as intrawiki link syntax. > - Most \W characters can be safely used Yeah, that is true for Markdown. >

Re: CGI on 6

2006-05-28 Thread Michael Mathews
On 28/05/06, Juerd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Michael Mathews skribis 2006-05-28 15:46 (+0100): > Also is the operator "~~" or "=~"? I've found contradictory references > to both in books and online. It was "=~" in Perl 5, but it's "~~" in Perl 6. Please report occurrences of "=~" to the respect

Re: CGI on 6

2006-05-28 Thread Ovid
- Original Message > From: Conrad Schneiker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > More code here (and in subdirectories): > https://svn.perl.org/perl6/pugs/trunk/ext/CGI I'm on a friend's computer so I can't check that, but I seem to recall that that interface was borrowed directly from Perl5's CGI.p

Re: CGI on 6

2006-05-28 Thread Juerd
Michael Mathews skribis 2006-05-28 15:46 (+0100): > $v =~ s/+/ /; That is: $v = (~ s/+/ /); > What's "" mean? That is how Pugs stringifies "s/+/ /", as requested with the stringification operator "~" > Also is the operator "~~" or "=~"? I've found contradictory references > to both in book

Re: $1,000 prize for Perl 6 Wiki written in Perl 6

2006-05-28 Thread Juerd
Conrad Schneiker skribis 2006-05-27 14:34 (-0700): > So I'm offering to post a $1,000 prize (The AthenaLab "The 1st Extreme > Leverage Prize" for Perl 6), to be awarded to the person that delivers the > first (Perl 6)**2 Wiki that meets some moderate specifications. Wow! Thanks for doing the worl

Re: CGI on 6

2006-05-28 Thread Michael Mathews
On 28/05/06, A. Pagaltzis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I think you'll end up doing s:p5/// or however exactly it is spelled where you can just write a Perl 5 regex. #!/usr/bin/pugs my $v = "one+two+three"; $v =~ s/+/ /; print $v; prints... What's "" mean? Do I need to do something special to g

Re: CGI on 6

2006-05-28 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Michael Mathews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-05-28 16:15]: > For that matter can anyone give a working (under pugs) example > of a simple substitution using Perl6 regex, "+" => " " for > example? I think you’ll end up doing s:p5/// or however exactly it is spelled where you can just write a Perl 5

Re: CGI on 6

2006-05-28 Thread Michael Mathews
On 28/05/06, Andrew Shitov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Not first ;-) http://real.perl6.ru/p6/environment/ http://real.perl6.ru/p6/querystring/?one=alpha&two=beta&three=gamma&empty&four=delta http://real.perl6.ru/p6/cookie/ (refresh twice) http://real.perl6.ru/p6/queryhash/?one=alpha&two=beta&thre

Re: CGI on 6

2006-05-28 Thread Andrew Shitov
> "sixwiki"? a "plixi"? erm-) I think the first hurdle would be getting > CGI going on 6. Is this already proven? If so how? Not first ;-) http://real.perl6.ru/p6/environment/ http://real.perl6.ru/p6/querystring/?one=alpha&two=beta&three=gamma&empty&four=delta http://real.perl6.ru/p6/cookie/ (re

RE: CGI on 6

2006-05-28 Thread Conrad Schneiker
> From: Michael Mathews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 2:38 AM > > Here's my first stab at a perl 6 cgi script. It's unusably slow under > pugs, but that's a problem for the "optimisation people" :-) not me! > > If I'm reinventing the wheel here just tell me, Don't know

Re: CGI on 6

2006-05-28 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Michael Mathews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-05-28 11:40]: > #!/usr/bin/pugs > > say "content-type: text/html\n\n"; > my %q = (); > my @q = split '&', %ENV.{'QUERY_STRING'}; > for (@q) { > my ($n, $v) = split '=', $_; > > # TODO: deal with URI encoding > # similar to perl5:

RE: $1,000 prize for Perl 6 Wiki written in Perl 6

2006-05-28 Thread Conrad Schneiker
> From: Michael Mathews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 12:25 AM [...] > On 27/05/06, Conrad Schneiker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So I'm offering to post a $1,000 prize (The AthenaLab "The 1st Extreme > > Leverage Prize" for Perl 6), to be awarded to the person that deliv

Re: CGI on 6

2006-05-28 Thread Michael Mathews
Here's my first stab at a perl 6 cgi script. It's unusably slow under pugs, but that's a problem for the "optimisation people" :-) not me! If I'm reinventing the wheel here just tell me, but it's still a useful learning exercise (I'm embarrassed to tell you how long this took me to get working!).

Re: Unintended consequences

2006-05-28 Thread Ricardo SIGNES
* Adam Kennedy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-05-27T23:48:43] > The questions that are being asked are for the user's benefit. That is > NOT being a freeloader. Freeloading is taken something from the user and > providing nothing in return. She's providing her free code in return. -- rjbs signatu

Re: CGI on 6

2006-05-28 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Michael Mathews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-05-28 10:10]: > (would that be a "pliki"? a "sixwiki"? a "plixi"? erm-) Pliki Sixi? Regards, -- #Aristotle *AUTOLOAD=*_;sub _{s/(.*)::(.*)/print$2,(",$\/"," ")[defined wantarray]/e;$1}; &Just->another->Perl->hacker;

CGI on 6

2006-05-28 Thread Michael Mathews
Thinking about the wiki on 6 challenge (would that be a "pliki"? a "sixwiki"? a "plixi"? erm-) I think the first hurdle would be getting CGI going on 6. Is this already proven? If so how? I'm investigating this now, but if someone wants to offer a working example... --michael

Re: $1,000 prize for Perl 6 Wiki written in Perl 6

2006-05-28 Thread Michael Mathews
On 27/05/06, Conrad Schneiker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So I'm offering to post a $1,000 prize (The AthenaLab "The 1st Extreme Leverage Prize" for Perl 6), to be awarded to the person that delivers the first (Perl 6)**2 Wiki that meets some moderate specifications. Now would that be New Zealan