Re: Slides vs. digital

2001-09-08 Thread Aaron Reynolds
"Mark D." wrote: > Are you gonna use the Peizography software and inks or are you gonna work > with the MIS Hextone inks? I hadn't decided yet. Lyson also sell a set of quadtone inks, again, no software. The Cone stuff is expensive, because of the software. I hear it's good, though. > My exp

Re: PUG Commentary

2001-09-08 Thread PAUL STENQUIST
Shel Belinkoff wrote in speaking of a Leica list: > >snip > > There's also a big difference in the type of photos presented. Here (on the PUG) > there are many pics of flowers, trees, buildings, and not that many > photos of people, apart from what is often described as "portraits". > There are

Re: PUG Commentary

2001-09-08 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi Paul, you've been quite sensitive these days. I was just pointing out the differences I observed ... I made no judgments. It seems that your prejudices are coming through loud and clear, though. PAUL STENQUIST wrote: > Do I detect an air of pretension wafting through the oft vacuous halls >

RE: PUG Commentary

2001-09-08 Thread Len Paris
It could also be said that your reply carries "an air of pretension" as well. People like what they like. Len --- > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > PAUL STENQUIST > Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2001 9:18 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Cory's comments (Was: My PUG Assignment.)

2001-09-08 Thread Lasse Karlsson
Thanks Cory. I appreciate your comments. Cory wrote: > "The Finish Line" -- Lasse Karlsson > I have to admit that on the first pass through the list I didn't notice > that the runners were the only things in color. Guess my mind disregarded > the obvious difference. Yes, that's funny. You're

Re: PUG Commentary

2001-09-08 Thread PAUL STENQUIST
Len Paris wrote: > > It could also be said that your reply carries "an air of > pretension" as well. People like what they like. > > Len > --- Exactly. I was only responding in kind. Paul - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follo

Re: PUG Commentary

2001-09-08 Thread PAUL STENQUIST
Hi Shel, I think characterizing the portraiture on PUG as "someone looking into the camera and smiling" is condescending and judgmental. I also felt it was incorrect for you to state unequivocally that documentary style photos "tend to be a lot more dynamic and interesting." It was opinion stated

Re: August PUG - Larson, Cohen.

2001-09-08 Thread Lasse Karlsson
A few weeks ago John Cohen wrote: Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 6:48 PM > Lasse's comment on my picture (of my daughter) with the spectrum on her face > are exactly on target. I think I liked the picture because I like the > subject so well, and it was an unusual way of looking at her; plus, sh

Re: A butchered (AKA "modern") LX

2001-09-08 Thread Anthony Farr
Bob, You're usually one of my favourite correspondents to PDML, but this time you've gone off half-cocked. The inconsistency of your argument is a joke. On one hand you say, > I am willing > to pay the extra necessary to obtain what I want. But later you contradict yourself thus, > Your soluti

Re: 67 equipment, request for enablement

2001-09-08 Thread Anthony Farr
William, Then I presume your problem is subject distortion rather than blur. Rather like the early 1900s shots of racing cars leaning forwards because of the slow traverse of the Graflex FP shutter. Unfortunately for P67 fans the only solution is to know what type of movement causes the problem

Re: Cory's comments (Was: My PUG Assignment.)

2001-09-08 Thread PAUL STENQUIST
Lasse Karlsson wrote: > I decided to try to pull them out by desaturate the colours around them. > This was done in Photoshop Hi Lasse, Did you select the runners and then go to the inverse? Did you use the wand or the pen or both? I think you did a very credible job, certainly adequate for a lo

Re: Use of a numbered index...

2001-09-08 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
2^10 = 1024 0-1023 Sorry, bucko. :) Collin >Norman Baugher writes: > > > I have a problem counting past 10 (gotta take off my shoes), could be a > > problem... > > You could count to 2047 on your fingers using binary... > >Cheers, > > >- - Dave * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

Re: Slides vs. digital

2001-09-08 Thread Mark D.
From: Aaron Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I've had reasonable results making duotones with deep chocolatey browns > and then printing them just with our colour inkset (after some > tweaking). So far, for regular materials, this seems to be the best > way. I guess I'll have to drop the money on

Re: Slides vs. digital

2001-09-08 Thread Mike Johnston
Mark D. wrote: >> My exploration into digital B&W has not been very >> satisfactory. and Aaron responded: > I haven't seen any samples that have wowed me; I had thought that maybe > it was just because the people making the samples didn't know how to > fully take advantage of the materials yet

Re: PUG Commentary

2001-09-08 Thread Mike Johnston
Paul S. wrote: > Yes, I'm being harsh, but > those grainy slice-of-life photos are neither more worthy nor more > interesting than nature photographs, architectural photographs, or > portraits. Flowers are beautiful, and when one can capture or enhance > that beauty...[snip] Oh, I don't know...

Re: MY NEW GALLERY FINALLY OPEN...

2001-09-08 Thread Ann Sanfedele
I enjoyed Cameron's page, but would sure like to know where these pictures were taken, It doesn't look like Lynn, Mass. It may not even be in the USA. Cameron - can you let us know?? (if you did in a post I didn't read I apologize - had much to do to keep me from reading all the posts these days.

RE: MIME, DEMIME, Paal, Pel, Pal, and digests

2001-09-08 Thread Frits J. Wüthrich
Well, it was the other way around, I was entitled a refund, so that limited my negotiation options. Frits Wüthrich > > "Frits J. Wüthrich" wrote: > > > I had > > to fight several times with the Dutch tax authorities about my umlaut. > > Did you politely decline to pay any income tax that wasn't

Re: PDML Group Photo at Grandfather Mt.

2001-09-08 Thread Mark Roberts
Tom, Jost got the photo in the mail yesterday. Much thanks. It's really beautiful. Well, as far as the print is concerned; as for the people in it, the less said the better ;) Mark - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the dire

Re: Slides vs digital

2001-09-08 Thread Jostein Øksne
Trying to chase the future is futile. Holding back a little gives you room to breathe, and consider where the future is actually heading. :-) Best, Jostein who takes pride that he hasn't lusted for the MZ-s yet either...(but it's getting harder...) :-) - Original Message - From: "Tom Ritte

Re: PUG Commentary

2001-09-08 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Paul ... You read way to much into what I said, and this is the second or third time you've done that in the last week or so. > I think characterizing the portraiture on > PUG as "someone looking into the camera and > smiling" is condescending and judgmental. Although I wrote those words, I d

Re: PDML Group Photo at Grandfather Mt.

2001-09-08 Thread tom
Glad you like it...I was a bit disappointed with it...I just never ever got the hang of HP5+. I get sharper negs and less grain with 35mm tri-x. Plus it's a pain in the ass to print. Oh well, that was my very last roll Anyway, see you next year. tv Anyway At 02:24 PM 9/8/2001 -0400, you

Re: Slides vs. digital

2001-09-08 Thread Mark D.
From: "Mike Johnston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Aaron and Mark, > Check out: > > http://leicam2.home.texas.net/ > > You'll notice that George offers his prints for free. I requested some and > he sent them to me. Although small, they're generally really excellent--the > best look as good as 4x5 conta

Re: PUG Commentary

2001-09-08 Thread Mark D.
Paul S. wrote: > > > Yes, I'm being harsh, but > > those grainy slice-of-life photos are neither more worthy nor more > > interesting than nature photographs, architectural photographs, or > > portraits. Flowers are beautiful, and when one can capture or enhance > > that beauty...[snip] To which

Re: Have a heart!

2001-09-08 Thread John Mustarde
On Wed, 05 Sep 2001 16:56:18 -0700, you wrote: >I'm with Mike on this, and I get the messages in real time. It's >annoying and perhaps poor netiquette to repost an entire message, >sometimes with headers, footers, and other messages contained therein, >when replying to the list. Another annoyan

Re: London "Summat"

2001-09-08 Thread Wendy Beard
At 12:01 8-9-2001 -0400, you wrote: >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Chris wrote > last was heavily into photography there was a huge annual event at > > Birmingham NEC, a pretty large event held by Fishwick's at Haydock Park... > > Which shows do you attend Peter?>> > I have considered

Re: Grandmother London (was: More London eye etc)

2001-09-08 Thread Jostein Øksne
- Original Message - From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > You following this Jostein? Frits is. And I suspect that a certain PDMLer > who lives on the Prime Meridian is... Now I am. Have had to days of absence. Can't make it to London in September. I really wish I could. :-( Jostein - T

Re: PDML Group Photo at Grandfather Mt.

2001-09-08 Thread tom
Oops, thought that one was personal. tv At 03:05 PM 9/8/2001 -0400, you wrote: >Glad you like it...I was a bit disappointed with it...I just never ever >got the hang of HP5+. I get sharper negs and less grain with 35mm tri-x. > >Plus it's a pain in the ass to print. > >Oh well, that was my very

Lasse's picture (Was: Cory's comments (Was: My PUG Assignment.

2001-09-08 Thread Lasse Karlsson
Paul Stenquist wrote > Lasse Karlsson wrote: > I decided to try to pull them out by desaturate the colours around them. > > This was done in Photoshop > > Hi Lasse, > Did you select the runners and then go to the inverse? Did you use the > wand or the pen or both? I think you did a very credible

Re: Have a heart!

2001-09-08 Thread Tom Rittenhouse
Yes, but, those of us who have been following the thread don't want to have to wade through all that stuff again to see your comment. I usually skip the message. OTOH, when I haven't been following the thread I like to look below and see the context. But, I agree trimming the irrelevant stuff i

Vs: Slides vs digital - and a bit OT

2001-09-08 Thread Raimo Korhonen
Hi all, I just got back from Estonia - and I took along just my trusty old Canonet GIII and print film (which I almost never use) and when I got some free time I just snapped away happily - I got the first prints back and I think that there´s no great art included but they are in some way succe

Replying styles

2001-09-08 Thread Doug Brewer
If you people have enough time to let differing replying styles bother you, =and feel the need to complain about them in print=, you really need to get out and take some pictures. Thanks, Doug -- Douglas Forrest Brewer Ashwood Lake Photography [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.alphoto.com - This m

PUG commentary from a different standpoint

2001-09-08 Thread UDPug
There are probably several, like me, who are here to learn - the novices, newbies to photography. We lurk and read and study the gallery, and are somewhat intimidated by you pros out there. We may have dozens of technical questions. The gallery and posts help answer some of those, or at least g

Re: PUG Commentary

2001-09-08 Thread PAUL STENQUIST
Shel Belinkoff wrote: > > > Further, I did ~not~ say, in any way, shape, or form, that > "documentary style > photos 'tend to be a lot more dynamic and interesting.'" To save you > the trouble of having to go back and read what I wrote, I'll quote it > here: "There are almost no "flower" type p

Re: A butchered (AKA "modern") LX

2001-09-08 Thread Bob Blakely
Fine. Right. I'm a real idiot with inconsistent arguments and desires. You win the intellectual discussion. I still want what I want. It's still exactly what I described. From: "Anthony Farr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Bob, > You're usually one of my favourite correspondents to PDML, but this t

Re: PUG Commentary

2001-09-08 Thread PAUL STENQUIST
Mike Johnston wrote: > > Oh, I don't know > That's entirely believable. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .

Re: PUG Commentary

2001-09-08 Thread PAUL STENQUIST
"Mark D." wrote: > > LOL, well put... > in response to... > > > > Oh, I don't know > Brilliant discourse, men. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http: