Re: XTOL and bubbles--follow up

2001-09-14 Thread Shel Belinkoff
William Robb wrote: > Clumping is mostly a problem with long developing times. The > actual wet time is less significant. Also, developers with > silver sovents (Microdol X is a good example) will cause > clumping more than developers without (I think D-76 is an > example of this, but I don't hav

Re: XTOL and bubbles--follow up

2001-09-13 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Anthony Farr" Subject: Re: XTOL and bubbles--follow up > Increases in total immersion time in ~any~ stage of the process can > contribute to an increase in apparent grain size due to a phenomenon > called "silver migration", wher

Re: XTOL and bubbles--follow up

2001-09-13 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Juan J. Buhler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 2:57 PM Subject: Re: XTOL and bubbles--follow up > On Thu, 13 Sep 2001, Ann Sanfedele wrote: > > > Oooops! a few minutes? Under

Re: XTOL and bubbles--follow up

2001-09-13 Thread Bob Rapp
CTED]> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 9:05 AM Subject: Re: XTOL and bubbles--follow up > Increases in total immersion time in ~any~ stage of the process can > contribute to an increase in apparent grain size due to a phenomenon > called "silver migration", where the softened gela

Re: XTOL and bubbles--follow up

2001-09-13 Thread Juan J. Buhler
On Thu, 13 Sep 2001, Ann Sanfedele wrote: > Oooops! a few minutes? Under a minute is long enough - > I do that with almost constant but slow agitiation and > have had no bubbles. I think there are some problems with > too long a soak - someone more hep technically can express > this better, I'm

XTOL and bubbles--follow up

2001-09-13 Thread Juan J. Buhler
I started presoaking the film in water for a few minutes before developing, and my bubbles problem went away. I also mixed a bit of developer with stop in a glass, same concentrations as I had been using, and didn't see any reaction. Just thought I'd follow up on my question from a couple of day

Re: XTOL and bubbles

2001-09-09 Thread Anthony Farr
Looks like it was airbells, then if it was small discs rather than spots. I've never used Xtol but I'll beware if ever I do, although it shouldn't matter in a Jobo ATL1000, I hope. For those of us who don't like presoaks (I've got no preference) two solutions come to mind. One is to start the pr

Re: XTOL and bubbles

2001-09-09 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Anthony Farr" < Subject: Re: XTOL and bubbles > Juan, > > If you're already giving the tank a good tap on the bench, especially > when the developer is first put in, then air bells might not be your > problem. Air bells wil

RE: XTOL and bubbles

2001-09-09 Thread Ed
ehalf Of tom > Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2001 10:40 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: XTOL and bubbles > > > I had this problem with xtol for a few rolls. I started > pre-soaking and > rapping the tank harder, and haven't had the problem since. > > tv &

RE: XTOL and bubbles

2001-09-09 Thread tom
I had this problem with xtol for a few rolls. I started pre-soaking and rapping the tank harder, and haven't had the problem since. tv At 08:30 AM 9/9/2001 -0400, you wrote: >I've now used XTOL twice, and have noticed the same thing. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsu

RE: XTOL and bubbles

2001-09-09 Thread Ed
ED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Juan J. Buhler > Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2001 1:51 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: OT: XTOL and bubbles > > > I've just started using XTOL. I developed a few rolls of TX, > and agitated as I did with other developer

Re: XTOL and bubbles

2001-09-09 Thread Anthony Farr
Juan, If you're already giving the tank a good tap on the bench, especially when the developer is first put in, then air bells might not be your problem. Air bells will give you small discs of less or no density, but you say you're getting dots. It could be insufficient agitation in the first m

Re: XTOL and bubbles

2001-09-09 Thread Bob Rapp
I wonder if, in the case of dark spots on the frame (ie the negative) if it is not a chemical reaction of the developer and the water used to make it up. since this is an organic developer, it may behave different to say D76. In the past, I always used distilled water for the developer and any wat