Re: Re: Weather

2024-01-08 Thread collinb
My main concern is cold and internal fogging. So many surfaces, so difficult to maintain. LF lenses are easily disassembled. Not so with this class of equipment. Of course there are always ziplock bags. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net

Re: Weather

2024-01-07 Thread Comcast
While there may be less to go wtong on an LF camera. They lack the weather protection of tme contemporary DSLRs. My K3 and K1 have been soaked repeatedly with no apparent ill effects. I wouldnt dare dov hat with my Speed Graphic. Paul > On Jan 6, 2024, at 7:35 PM, John Francis wrote: > > On S

Re: Weather

2024-01-06 Thread John Francis
On Sat, Jan 06, 2024 at 02:56:36PM +, coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote: > Back in the day > > I was less concerned for my LF equipment out in the cold and snow than I am > for this 35mm-class equipment. Well, there's a whole lot less to go wrong on a large format camera than on a modern setup

Re: Weather

2024-01-06 Thread Ralf R Radermacher
Am 06.01.24 um 20:51 schrieb Doug Brewer: Guess it depends on the 35mm-class equipment you mean. I've done a number of shoots in raging thunderstorms with nary a hiccup. Both my K3 and K1 have powered through. Same here. K7, K5, K3 mostly on the North Sea cost, in storm, rain, sleet and snow,

Re: Weather

2024-01-06 Thread Doug Brewer
Guess it depends on the 35mm-class equipment you mean. I've done a number of shoots in raging thunderstorms with nary a hiccup. Both my K3 and K1 have powered through. On 1/6/24 9:56 AM, coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote: Back in the day I was less concerned for my LF equipment out in the cold an

Re: Weather Out of Whack!

2017-02-22 Thread Alan C
Summer temps in the low 40's are the norm here but 47 - sounds like Dubai (or the Gibson?). Alan C -Original Message- From: Rob Studdert Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 1:09 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Weather Out of Whack! We've had some shocker days t

Re: Weather Out of Whack!

2017-02-22 Thread Rob Studdert
We've had some shocker days this summer, back to a far more relaxed and pleasant 24 deg C currently :) On 23 February 2017 at 02:24, Gonz wrote: > Yikes! I hope its not that bad when we visit! > > > On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 4:01 AM, Rob Studdert wrote: >> It was 47 deg C at Sydney Olympic Park l

Re: Weather Out of Whack!

2017-02-22 Thread Gonz
Yikes! I hope its not that bad when we visit! On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 4:01 AM, Rob Studdert wrote: > It was 47 deg C at Sydney Olympic Park last week, walking out of an > A/C shack into the hot wind was like walking into a fan forced oven, > not nice. > > > > On 15 February 2017 at 08:56, Mark

Re: Weather Out of Whack!

2017-02-22 Thread Rob Studdert
It was 47 deg C at Sydney Olympic Park last week, walking out of an A/C shack into the hot wind was like walking into a fan forced oven, not nice. On 15 February 2017 at 08:56, Mark Roberts wrote: > Alan C wrote: > >>"I'm more worried about muscle strain than heart attack — I still run >>40-50

Re: Weather Out of Whack!

2017-02-14 Thread Mark Roberts
Alan C wrote: >"I'm more worried about muscle strain than heart attack — I still run >40-50 miles a week so my fitness is pretty good (though I've been >closer to 30 miles a week for the past month, for obvious reasons)." > >So presumably you race a few marathons? My running has nose-dived in the

Re: Weather Out of Whack!

2017-02-14 Thread John
) draped over a fan, a sort of home brew evaporative cooler with limited success. By the middle of March the worst should be over. Alan C -Original Message- From: P. J. Alling Sent: Monday, February 13, 2017 9:47 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Weather Out of Whack! I've e

Re: Weather Out of Whack!

2017-02-13 Thread Alan C
"I'm more worried about muscle strain than heart attack — I still run 40-50 miles a week so my fitness is pretty good (though I've been closer to 30 miles a week for the past month, for obvious reasons)." So presumably you race a few marathons? My running has nose-dived in the last year & I'm st

Re: Weather Out of Whack!

2017-02-13 Thread Alan C
er a fan, a sort of home brew evaporative cooler with limited success. By the middle of March the worst should be over. Alan C -Original Message- From: P. J. Alling Sent: Monday, February 13, 2017 9:47 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Weather Out of Whack! I've expe

Re: Weather Out of Whack!

2017-02-13 Thread P. J. Alling
I've experienced swamp coolers in temperate climates, and they're what I'd call marginally ineffective. Better than nothing but not much. In a desert they work a bit better but mostly at hydrating the air. Unless you have cold water they don't really seem cool anything. On 2/13/2017 10:28

Re: Weather Out of Whack!

2017-02-13 Thread John
When I was in Iraq, we had several days where the temperature went over 60 deg C (140 deg F). I hope I never experience anything like that again. On 2/13/2017 7:14 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: My mistake. I hadn't read the entire thread. Those Australian temps are insane. You would only see that h

Re: Weather Out of Whack!

2017-02-13 Thread Paul in MKE
Alan - Would a swamp cooler work for you? Much less expensive to purchase and operate compared to conventional A/C. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evaporative_cooler -p On 2/13/2017 9:07 AM, Alan C wrote: 40°C+ is hardly exciting, in fact totally debilitating. At the moment our house doesn

Re: Weather Out of Whack!

2017-02-13 Thread Alan C
40°C+ is hardly exciting, in fact totally debilitating. At the moment our house doesn't even cool below 30°C at night. The pitched roof houses the mines built here are totally unsuited to the Lowveld climate with that huge mass of hot air above the ceiling (very nice in "winter", mind you). Flat

Re: Weather Out of Whack!

2017-02-13 Thread Paul Stenquist
My mistake. I hadn't read the entire thread. Those Australian temps are insane. You would only see that here in the deserts of the southwest and only very rarely. Paul via phone > On Feb 13, 2017, at 4:58 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > > They're talking g in degrees Fahrenheit, Alan. The tempera

Re: Weather Out of Whack!

2017-02-13 Thread Paul Stenquist
They're talking g in degrees Fahrenheit, Alan. The temperatures aren't extreme, they're just warmer than usual for February. Paul via phone > On Feb 13, 2017, at 2:59 AM, Alan C wrote: > > Unbelievable, and we grumble when it creeps over 40. Take care. > > Alan C > > -Original Message---

Re: Weather Out of Whack!

2017-02-13 Thread Alan C
Unbelievable, and we grumble when it creeps over 40. Take care. Alan C -Original Message- From: mike wilson Sent: Monday, February 13, 2017 9:16 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT: Weather Out of Whack! Someone I know from the Perth hills in Australia was going to go for

Re: Weather

2010-01-07 Thread D. Glenn Arthur Jr.
Stan Halpin wrote: > On Jan 1, 2010, at 3:41 AM, D. Glenn Arthur Jr. wrote: > > Then she complained that my macro shot of a pomegranate > > seed looked like "somebody's liver". > > Everyone is a critic. And it will do no good to explain your artistic > intent - if she doesn't get it, she just does

RE: Weather

2010-01-03 Thread Bob W
> > On Jan 2, 2010, at 11:45 PM, Bob W wrote: > > >> I'm working on it. Currently enjoying a bottle of cider that our > >> goldfishes gave me for xmas. > > > > I'm surprised they remembered. > > Myth busted :) > > http://mythbustersresults.com/episode11 > Sorry - some bloke called Jamie te

Re: Weather

2010-01-02 Thread David Mann
On Jan 2, 2010, at 11:45 PM, Bob W wrote: >> I'm working on it. Currently enjoying a bottle of cider that >> our goldfishes gave me for xmas. > > I'm surprised they remembered. Myth busted :) http://mythbustersresults.com/episode11 Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http:/

RE: Weather

2010-01-02 Thread Bob W
> > > Until someone tells you your liver looks like pomegranate > seeds, I wouldn't worry about it. > > I'm working on it. Currently enjoying a bottle of cider that > our goldfishes gave me for xmas. > I'm surprised they remembered. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://p

Re: Weather

2010-01-01 Thread David Mann
On Jan 2, 2010, at 2:24 PM, John Sessoms wrote: > Until someone tells you your liver looks like pomegranate seeds, I wouldn't > worry about it. I'm working on it. Currently enjoying a bottle of cider that our goldfishes gave me for xmas. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net ht

Re: Weather

2010-01-01 Thread John Sessoms
From: D. Glenn Arthur Jr. > > > > Then she complained that my macro shot of a pomegranate > > seed looked like "somebody's liver". Until someone tells you your liver looks like pomegranate seeds, I wouldn't worry about it. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/

Re: Weather

2010-01-01 Thread Christine Aguila
Happy New Year! Hope you're feeling better. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: "D. Glenn Arthur Jr." To: Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 3:41 AM Subject: Weather I've been staying at my mother's house for a while, after having gotten pneumonia after the flu (doing much

Re: Weather

2010-01-01 Thread Bruce Dayton
Boy was I chuckling while reading this. My wife does the same thing to me when I take a picture of clouds. She says, "It's just a picture of clouds..." - basically if there aren't people in it she knows, then why bother taking a picture. -- Bruce Friday, January 1, 2010, 1:41:17 AM, you wrote:

Re: Weather

2010-01-01 Thread Stan Halpin
On Jan 1, 2010, at 3:41 AM, D. Glenn Arthur Jr. wrote: > > Then she complained that my macro shot of a pomegranate > seed looked like "somebody's liver". Everyone is a critic. And it will do no good to explain your artistic intent - if she doesn't get it, she just doesn't get it. Hopefully she

Re: RE: Weather-sealed body

2006-09-13 Thread frank theriault
On 9/12/06, Mike Hamilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Shel, I wasn't complaining by any stretch! You were so! Stop tapdancing. cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdm

Re: Weather-sealed body

2006-09-13 Thread Charles Robinson
On Sep 13, 2006, at 12:10, P. J. Alling wrote: > O ring seals that caused the Challenger to explode... > (Sort of non sequitur in this context thought). > Well incorrectly-used O-ring seals, in any case. They were being asked to do much more than an o-ring ought to do. -Charles -- Char

Re: Weather-sealed body

2006-09-13 Thread Adam Maas
Actually, it was the lack of them that caused it (Seal failure). -Adam P. J. Alling wrote: > O ring seals that caused the Challenger to explode... > (Sort of non sequitur in this context thought). > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >>In a message dated 9/12/2006 12:25:23 PM Pacific Daylight Tim

Re: Weather-sealed body

2006-09-13 Thread P. J. Alling
O ring seals that caused the Challenger to explode... (Sort of non sequitur in this context thought). [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >In a message dated 9/12/2006 12:25:23 PM Pacific Daylight Time, >[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >>From the diagram in Steve's digicam, lens mount appears to have an O ring >

Re: Weather-sealed body

2006-09-12 Thread Lucas Rijnders
Op Wed, 13 Sep 2006 00:05:42 +0200 schreef K.Takeshita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > When gazing at the picture of the K10D with a lens attached, mounting > surface does not appear visible (lens looks like attached close to body > surface). If that's the case, as someone pointed out, only new lenses

Re: Weather-sealed body

2006-09-12 Thread graywolf
Just tell them to take the back off their Rolex and look at it. Then send the watch back to Rolex, or take it to a good dive shop, to have it recertified . -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf "Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof" ---

Re: Weather-sealed body

2006-09-12 Thread Paul Stenquist
The LX has a seal between the mount and the body, so Pentax has been there before. Paul On Sep 12, 2006, at 5:15 PM, Cotty wrote: > On 12/9/06, Douglas Newman, discombobulated, unleashed: > >> I think you will find that the 1-series D-SLRs (and >> the EOS-1V) have gaskets on the lens mount, as w

Re: Weather-sealed body

2006-09-12 Thread K.Takeshita
On 9/12/06 5:53 PM, "Digital Image Studio", <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I didn't get to see this famed leaky release but looking at the huge > press kit photos I see no gasket of any kind on the very visible > mount.? You are probably right. See my later post. IMO, Pentax cannot possibly put a

Re: Weather-sealed body

2006-09-12 Thread K.Takeshita
On 9/12/06 5:19 PM, "Cotty", <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I wonder how canon is doing it. > > There's a rubber seal on the back of L lenses that fits flush with the > lens mount. Hmm, that's interesting. I wondered why they did not seal the body side but when taking a look at my canon body, I

Re: Weather-sealed body

2006-09-12 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 13/09/06, K.Takeshita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 9/12/06 5:03 PM, "K.Takeshita", <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > It would be a dovetail-like groove to which the rubber O ring is pushed in > > and > > only a very slight amount is protruding outside. > > Someone questioned if all lenses cou

Re: Weather-sealed body

2006-09-12 Thread Cotty
On 12/9/06, K.Takeshita, discombobulated, unleashed: >I wonder how canon is doing it. There's a rubber seal on the back of L lenses that fits flush with the lens mount. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com ___

Re: Weather-sealed body

2006-09-12 Thread Cotty
On 12/9/06, Douglas Newman, discombobulated, unleashed: >I think you will find that the 1-series D-SLRs (and >the EOS-1V) have gaskets on the lens mount, as well: >http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canoneos1dsmkii/page5.asp Aha. The Pentax K10D seal is around the lens mount-to-body position, then.

Re: Weather-sealed body

2006-09-12 Thread K.Takeshita
On 9/12/06 5:03 PM, "K.Takeshita", <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It would be a dovetail-like groove to which the rubber O ring is pushed in and > only a very slight amount is protruding outside. Someone questioned if all lenses could be sealed. That's a good question because the retaining the O r

Re: Weather-sealed body

2006-09-12 Thread K.Takeshita
On 9/12/06 4:57 PM, "K.Takeshita", <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If it's on the mount surface, any lens can be sealed. It may be bit harder to > retain the ring in place but O rings are usually very easy to replace. If it's on the mount surface, it could be a very thin rubber ring, like 1mm dia wh

Re: Weather-sealed body

2006-09-12 Thread K.Takeshita
On 9/12/06 4:32 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]", <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Please clarify. I clueless about what an O ring type seal is. O ring is usually made of rubber (for most low presure applications. sometimes a thin tubular metal etc) with a circular cross section. It is used to seal the circu

Re: Weather-sealed body

2006-09-12 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 9/12/2006 12:25:23 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >From the diagram in Steve's digicam, lens mount appears to have an O ring >type seal. Indeed it does. That's interesting. Canon put the seal on the back of the lenses (L). With the K10D you can seal camera

Re: Weather-sealed body

2006-09-12 Thread Douglas Newman
--- Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: << Indeed it does. That's interesting. Canon put the seal on the back of the lenses (L). With the K10D you can seal camera to any lens. >> I'm not so sure about that. I think you will find that the 1-series D-SLRs (and the EOS-1V) have gaskets on the lens mou

Re: Weather-sealed body

2006-09-12 Thread Cotty
On 12/9/06, K.Takeshita, discombobulated, unleashed: >From the diagram in Steve's digicam, lens mount appears to have an O ring >type seal. Indeed it does. That's interesting. Canon put the seal on the back of the lenses (L). With the K10D you can seal camera to any lens. (calm down, I'm not int

Re: RE: Weather-sealed body

2006-09-12 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Tue, 12 Sep 2006, Mike Hamilton wrote: > replacing the fairly recent 16-45/4 lens with a 16-50/2.8 (aside from > the minor aperture and focal length differences). Don't you think? Minor? Pentax had a 28-70/4 and a 28-70/2.8 selling at the same time in the recent past. I can't believe one was

Re: RE: Weather-sealed body

2006-09-12 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I didn't deny the presence of that, just questioned where/what the source was. Shel > [Original Message] > From: Mike Hamilton > As for the SSM, that was based on the speculation that has been > circulating the list for some time. Aside from you, has anyone denied > the presence of that?

Re: RE: Weather-sealed body

2006-09-12 Thread Shel Belinkoff
My mistake just seemed that way from here ... glad to know that you weren't 'cause the prize is on back order Shel > [Original Message] > From: Mike Hamilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Date: 9/12/2006 10:31:49 AM > Subject: Re: R

Re: Weather-sealed body

2006-09-12 Thread K.Takeshita
>From the diagram in Steve's digicam, lens mount appears to have an O ring type seal. Ken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Weather-sealed body

2006-09-12 Thread K.Takeshita
On 9/12/06 12:44 PM, "Shel Belinkoff", <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Where has that be said ... can you provide a pointer? There are all sorts of info floating around, accurate or false, but I do not think people are posting the complete fabrication etc. Each person must have reasons to tell thin

RE: Weather-sealed body

2006-09-12 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Actually, I do enjoy all the discussion and anticipation that surrounds rumors. More interesting reading than some purely technical discussions, such as how many photons can fit on the head of a pixel Shel > [Original Message] > From: Tim Øsleby > Rumours and/or documents being circulated u

Re: Weather-sealed body

2006-09-12 Thread John Francis
On Tue, Sep 12, 2006 at 10:11:26AM -0600, Mike Hamilton wrote: > What is the purpose of a weather sealed body without any sealed > lenses? I imagine that the two upcoming lenses (16-50/2.8 being one) > will be weather sealed. If so, that's going to be an expensive lens, > given the super-sonic mo

Re: RE: Weather-sealed body

2006-09-12 Thread Mike Hamilton
Shel, I wasn't complaining by any stretch! I don't know what portion of my message you interpreted as such. I was simply making a logical connection that I hadn't seen discussed on PDML. As for the SSM, that was based on the speculation that has been circulating the list for some time. Aside fr

Re: Weather-sealed body

2006-09-12 Thread Adam Maas
Mike Hamilton wrote: > What is the purpose of a weather sealed body without any sealed > lenses? I imagine that the two upcoming lenses (16-50/2.8 being one) > will be weather sealed. If so, that's going to be an expensive lens, > given the super-sonic motor and fast aperture... Perhaps Pentax's

Re: Weather-sealed body

2006-09-12 Thread K.Takeshita
On 9/12/06 12:36 PM, "Thibouille", <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 16-50/2.8 is said to be about 1000 dollars. > > 2006/9/12, Mike Hamilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> What is the purpose of a weather sealed body without any sealed >> lenses? I imagine that the two upcoming lenses (16-50/2.8 being one)

Re: Weather-sealed body

2006-09-12 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sep 12, 2006, at 9:11 AM, Mike Hamilton wrote: > What is the purpose of a weather sealed body without any sealed > lenses? I imagine that the two upcoming lenses (16-50/2.8 being one) > will be weather sealed. ... I fully expect that if they have gone the distance to a weather sealed body,

RE: Weather-sealed body

2006-09-12 Thread Tim Øsleby
Mail List Subject: RE: Weather-sealed body Y'gotta start somewhere. You've won the prize for being the first person to complain about the new camera. I wondered how long it would take before complaints and criticisms started. What makes you think the upcoming 16-50/2.8 will have a &q

Re: Weather-sealed body

2006-09-12 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I remember it being said before on this list... '-) G On Sep 12, 2006, at 9:44 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > Where has that be said ... can you provide a pointer? > >> 16-50/2.8 is said to be about 1000 dollars. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pd

Re: Weather-sealed body

2006-09-12 Thread Thibouille
16-50/2.8 is said to be about 1000 dollars. 2006/9/12, Mike Hamilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > What is the purpose of a weather sealed body without any sealed > lenses? I imagine that the two upcoming lenses (16-50/2.8 being one) > will be weather sealed. If so, that's going to be an expensive lens

RE: Weather-sealed body

2006-09-12 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Y'gotta start somewhere. You've won the prize for being the first person to complain about the new camera. I wondered how long it would take before complaints and criticisms started. What makes you think the upcoming 16-50/2.8 will have a "super-sonic motor" - I don't recall seeing that announ

Re: Weather-sealed body

2006-09-12 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Where has that be said ... can you provide a pointer? Shel > [Original Message] > From: Thibouille > 16-50/2.8 is said to be about 1000 dollars. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: WEATHER SEALING (LX,M lenses), + rather SAD STORY

2003-01-02 Thread Peter Alling
M Lenses aren't all that well sealed. On the other hand I've gotten a couple of my M lenses fairly wet taking photo's in bad weather to no apparent ill effects. Your lenses didn't go swimming did they, I would think that would be bad. At 06:17 PM 12/31/2002 +0100, you wrote: Hi, I have a few

Re: WEATHER SEALING (LX,M lenses), + rather SAD STORY

2002-12-31 Thread Bob Blakely
From: "Frantisek Vlcek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Hi, >I have a few questions to ask before leaving. I just returned from >outside (-10celsius) where I photographed some dusk landscapes lit >by multicoloured fireworks (I didn't plan on the fireworks, but >they lit indirectly the lands