Re: Long lenses-- was Street Dancers

2005-06-28 Thread David Volkert
In defense of long lenses (and in a way in defense of my photo) I would add that longer lenses have a way of working around other people in a imperfect shooting environment. For example in my photo I was trying to crop out the boy's brother who was drawing on the asphalt on all fours which wou

Re: Long lenses-- was Street Dancers

2005-06-27 Thread SonC
In a message dated 6/27/2005 2:02:42 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, 2005-06-27 at 15:49, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In the Porto shots, it is amusing that in this one the subject has spotted > the sniper. > > http://x64.com/joaquim/photo/photo03/index-Page

Re: Long lenses-- was Street Dancers

2005-06-27 Thread Joaquim Carvalho
On Mon, 2005-06-27 at 15:49, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In the Porto shots, it is amusing that in this one the subject has spotted > the sniper. > > http://x64.com/joaquim/photo/photo03/index-Pages/Image19.html The father hasn't, he kept talking to the woman woman on the left, the kid I don'

Re: Long lenses-- was Street Dancers

2005-06-27 Thread Shel Belinkoff
That's not been my experience. Invariably the people I photograph loosen up, react and express themselves freely, and, even when deciding to pose, show their true personalities (I think the recent PESO "The Poser" shows that clearly). Sometimes they just go on about their business. However, I'm

Re: Long lenses-- was Street Dancers

2005-06-27 Thread keithw
Shel Belinkoff wrote: Not always - and so what if it does? Do you think hunting with a long lens results in more interesting or compelling photographs? I guess it depends on what you want to photograph. You can learn to be unobtrusive and accepted when photographing closer in - it may take a l

Re: Long lenses-- was Street Dancers

2005-06-27 Thread keithw
Joaquim Carvalho wrote: On Mon, 2005-06-27 at 15:22, Shel Belinkoff wrote: I wasn't going to comment on the photos, but since a discussion of sorts has opened up around them maybe I can add a thought or two. One of the biggest problems I see when using long lenses is that the photographer los

Re: Long lenses-- was Street Dancers

2005-06-27 Thread keithw
Shel Belinkoff wrote: I wasn't going to comment on the photos, but since a discussion of sorts has opened up around them maybe I can add a thought or two. [...] What Capa said years ago holds true today: "If your photos aren't good enough, you're not close enough." Shel Thanks, Shel! Whi

RE: Long lenses-- was Street Dancers

2005-06-27 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Not always - and so what if it does? Do you think hunting with a long lens results in more interesting or compelling photographs? I guess it depends on what you want to photograph. You can learn to be unobtrusive and accepted when photographing closer in - it may take a little practice and certai

Re: Long lenses-- was Street Dancers

2005-06-27 Thread SonC
In a message dated 6/27/2005 10:41:28 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >>Yes but don't you think that when people feel the presence of a >>photographer they immediately change the way they behave? Not really, if the photographer acts natural. Just refuse to shoot shots

RE: Long lenses-- was Street Dancers

2005-06-27 Thread Joaquim Carvalho
On Mon, 2005-06-27 at 15:22, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > I wasn't going to comment on the photos, but since a discussion of sorts > has opened up around them maybe I can add a thought or two. One of the > biggest problems I see when using long lenses is that the photographer > loses contact - or never

RE: Long lenses-- was Street Dancers

2005-06-27 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I wasn't going to comment on the photos, but since a discussion of sorts has opened up around them maybe I can add a thought or two. One of the biggest problems I see when using long lenses is that the photographer loses contact - or never even establishes contact - with the people s/he's photogra

Re: Long lenses-- was Street Dancers

2005-06-27 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jun 27, 2005, at 6:17 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yesterday in my comments about the Porto shots, I mentioned that using a longer lens tends to get us into a sniper mood when we take to the streets. ... Yes, I agree. While walking through the SF Pride festivities yesterday, I fitte