[OPSAWG]Re: Gunter Van de Velde's No Objection on draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-tls13-23: (with COMMENT)

2025-07-08 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
Thanks Mahesh, that helps, it makes sense. From: Mahesh Jethanandani Date: Tuesday, 8 July 2025 at 00:21 To: Douglas Gash (dcmgash) Cc: Gunter van de Velde , The IESG , draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-tl...@ietf.org , opsawg-cha...@ietf.org , opsawg@ietf.org , mohamed.boucad...@orange.com , Joe

[OPSAWG]Re: Paul Wouters' Yes on draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-tls13-23: (with COMMENT)

2025-07-04 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
Hi Paul, Many thanks for the review. This section also came up in another recent review, we have clarified that the issue is that the client hello is in cleartext. Of course, this doesn’t address your real point, which is that it doesn’t matter that it is in cleartext as the information is ava

[OPSAWG]Re: Deb Cooley's No Objection on draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-tls13-23: (with COMMENT)

2025-07-04 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
Hello Deb, Many thanks for taking the time and for the comments and insights. Please see inline: From: Deb Cooley via Datatracker Date: Tuesday, 24 June 2025 at 14:11 To: The IESG Cc: draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-tl...@ietf.org , opsawg-cha...@ietf.org , opsawg@ietf.org , mohamed.boucad...@oran

[OPSAWG]Re: Gunter Van de Velde's No Objection on draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-tls13-23: (with COMMENT)

2025-07-04 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
Hello Gunter, Many, many thanks for taking the time to digest the doc and to provide some very significant improvements to the doc. Please see inline… From: Gunter Van de Velde via Datatracker Date: Tuesday, 24 June 2025 at 15:17 To: The IESG Cc: draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-tl...@ietf.org , ops

[OPSAWG]Re: draft-ietf-opsawg-secure-tacacs-yang-12 ietf last call Secdir review

2025-07-01 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
Hi Robert, Med, We’ll update draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-tls13 to MUST to align, thanks! From: mohamed.boucad...@orange.com Date: Tuesday, 1 July 2025 at 15:57 To: Robert Sparks , sec...@ietf.org Cc: draft-ietf-opsawg-secure-tacacs-yang@ietf.org , last-c...@ietf.org , opsawg@ietf.org Subjec

[OPSAWG]Re: Éric Vyncke's Yes on draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-tls13-23: (with COMMENT)

2025-06-30 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
Many thanks Eric, for taking the time to dig into the doc. Please see responses inline, we’ll upgrade the doc appropriately, it will definitely improve it, and if you have any concerns about the responses, please let us know. I have one query (please see below) Re: s/separate TCP/IP port numbe

[OPSAWG]Re: Mahesh Jethanandani's No Objection on draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-tls13-21: (with COMMENT)

2025-06-19 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
Thanks Mahesh, All good catches, we will update the doc with fixes. From: Mahesh Jethanandani via Datatracker Date: Friday, 13 June 2025 at 15:06 To: The IESG Cc: draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-tl...@ietf.org , opsawg-cha...@ietf.org , opsawg@ietf.org , mohamed.boucad...@orange.com , Joe Clarke (

[OPSAWG]Re: [Last-Call] Re: Change to draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-tls13

2025-05-08 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
different server (for example, due to man-in-the-middle attacks or DNS cache poisoning.) From: Douglas Gash (dcmgash) Date: Wednesday, 30 April 2025 at 09:14 To: Viktor Dukhovni , opsawg , last-c...@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Last-Call] Re: Change to draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-tls13 Thanks all for the

[OPSAWG]Re: [Last-Call] Re: Change to draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-tls13

2025-04-30 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
Thanks all for the feedback. Viktor, we will ensure that the implications you raise regarding the use of wildcards are highlighted in the security section. We’ll share that snippet before uploading the next version. From: Viktor Dukhovni Date: Wednesday, 30 April 2025 at 02:14 To: opsawg , las

[OPSAWG]Change to draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-tls13

2025-04-29 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
Dear OPSAWG et al, We would like to extend an offline discussion onto the group regarding the use of wildcards for identities in server certificates. The document currently prohibits them; however, they are supported in the specific TLS 1.3 specifications and the case has been made that they ar

[OPSAWG]Re: AD review of draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-tls13

2025-04-09 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
Thanks for the catches Med, we’ll get those fixed directly. From: mohamed.boucad...@orange.com Date: Wednesday, 9 April 2025 at 14:43 To: draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-tl...@ietf.org Cc: opsawg@ietf.org Subject: AD review of draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-tls13 Hi Doug, all, In preparation for the forth

[OPSAWG]Re: Opsdir last call review of draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-tls13-18

2025-03-13 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
Many Thanks Qin, We’ll clean up the nits doc for the next revision (19) From: Qin Wu via Datatracker Date: Thursday, 13 March 2025 at 08:26 To: ops-...@ietf.org Cc: draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-tls13@ietf.org , last-c...@ietf.org , opsawg@ietf.org Subject: Opsdir last call review of draft-ie

[OPSAWG]Re: [Last-Call] Secdir last call review of draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-tls13-18

2025-03-13 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
Hi Russ, Med, Just to confirm, there are three authentication methods (Cert, PSK, RPK). Cert MUST be implemented, the other two MAY be implemented, as they become mature. We have made two specific changes, which we hope will clarify: 1. We have indicated that the two options (PSK and RPK) a

[OPSAWG]Re: IPR POLL: draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-tls13 : Terminal Access Controller Access-Control System Plus (TACACS+) over TLS 1.3

2025-02-27 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft From: Joe Clarke (jclarke) Date: Thursday, 27 February 2025 at 16:33 To: opsawg@ietf.org , draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-tl...@ietf.org Subject: IPR POLL: draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-tls13 : Terminal Access Controller Access-Control System Plus (

[OPSAWG]Re: BCP 195 RE: Re: draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-tls13: Debugging TACACS+ over TLS

2024-11-26 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
Thanks Med, good catch, we’ll add this to the next version (16) From: mohamed.boucad...@orange.com Date: Tuesday, 26 November 2024 at 13:05 To: draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-tl...@ietf.org Cc: opsawg Subject: BCP 195 RE: [OPSAWG]Re: draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-tls13: Debugging TACACS+ over TLS Hi Dou

[OPSAWG]Re: TACACS+ TLS Resumption and PSK.

2024-11-18 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
. From: Douglas Gash (dcmgash) Date: Sunday, 10 November 2024 at 12:41 To: Alan DeKok Cc: mohamed.boucad...@orange.com , Joe Clarke (jclarke) , opsawg@ietf.org , Thorsten Dahm , John Heasly , Andrej Ota Subject: Re: TACACS+ TLS Resumption and PSK. Dear Alan, Thank you for your time to review, and

[OPSAWG]Re: TACACS+ TLS Resumption and PSK; section 5.1.1

2024-11-11 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
. Hopefully this clarifies the hierarchy of TLS configuration from the connection, through the server and the host. Any concerns, please let us know. Thanks! From: mohamed.boucad...@orange.com Date: Wednesday, 30 October 2024 at 07:02 To: Alan DeKok , Douglas Gash (dcmgash) Cc: Joe Clarke

[OPSAWG]Re: TACACS+ TLS Resumption and PSK.

2024-11-10 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
the responses to these issues ASAP. Thanks! From: Alan DeKok Date: Tuesday, 29 October 2024 at 21:35 To: Douglas Gash (dcmgash) Cc: mohamed.boucad...@orange.com , Joe Clarke (jclarke) , opsawg@ietf.org , Thorsten Dahm , John Heasly , Andrej Ota Subject: Re: TACACS+ TLS Resumption and PSK. On

[OPSAWG]TACACS+ TLS Resumption and PSK.

2024-10-28 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
previous paucity of coverage of these subjects was sufficiently remedied. If not, now would be ideal time for us to address any remaining concerns in this (or any other) area. Many thanks! From: Douglas Gash (dcmgash) Date: Monday, 8 July 2024 at 09:48 To: mohamed.boucad...@orange.com , Joe Clarke

[OPSAWG]Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-tls13-12.txt

2024-10-02 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
13:04 To: Douglas Gash (dcmgash) , opsawg@ietf.org , draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-tl...@ietf.org Subject: RE: I-D Action: draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-tls13-12.txt Hi Doug, Thanks for the follow-up. Please see inline. Cheers, Med Orange Restricted De : Douglas Gash (dcmgash) Envoyé : vendredi 27

[OPSAWG]Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-tls13-12.txt

2024-09-27 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
Hi, Regarding: * only a domain name is provisioned The domain-name is configured for SNI validation, it is not intended to provide the network address of the server. Is that sufficient to resolve the YANG query? -We will update the doc to clarify this point. * when both a domain name and a list

[OPSAWG]Re: Opsdir early review of draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-tls13-10

2024-08-12 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
Thanks you for your feedback and insights. We have uploaded a new version to include corrections. We have deferred ref to RFC9608 at this stage, as we are still checking to determine if the provisions would be relevant to the TLS cases used for T+ transport. If we have missed anything or you h

[OPSAWG]Re: OPSAWG Digest, Vol 205, Issue 20

2024-07-08 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
Dear Opsawg et al, 1) Discussion on External PSK (Related to part of Mohamed’s point 2 below). Our distillation of the thrust of Alan’s main advice is: The doc needs to either commit to fully documenting external PSK and its ramifications or preclude it. The truth is, our doc merely says: TLS

[OPSAWG]Re: Secdir last call review of draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-tls13-10

2024-07-02 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
Hi Russ, Many thanks for taking the time to review. Before we dig into the issues raised, I’d like to check to see if your comments spring from the doc misleading due to bad wording, or if you have in mind a deeper issue. What the doc is trying to express (and we will refactor a little to make

[OPSAWG]Re: WG LC: draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-tls13 (was Re-OPSAWG Digest, Vol 205, Issue 21)

2024-07-02 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
Thanks, yes, though this is now a little outdated based on further discussions. From: mohamed.boucad...@orange.com Date: Tuesday, 2 July 2024 at 08:13 To: Douglas Gash (dcmgash) , EBALARD Arnaud , opsawg@ietf.org Cc: John Heasly , Andrej Ota Subject: RE: WG LC: draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-tls13

[OPSAWG]Re: OPSAWG Digest, Vol 205, Issue 21

2024-07-01 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
That is certainly reasonable, we will add. From: EBALARD Arnaud Date: Monday, 1 July 2024 at 12:21 To: Douglas Gash (dcmgash) , opsawg@ietf.org Cc: Thorsten Dahm , John Heasly , Andrej Ota Subject: RE: OPSAWG Digest, Vol 205, Issue 21 Hi Douglas, Thanks for that feedback. As you pointed

[OPSAWG]Re: OPSAWG Digest, Vol 205, Issue 21

2024-07-01 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
Hi Arnaud, The need for enhancing the flow for SSH key authentication is clear, and the initial version of the document covered this to some degree. However, after discussion in the group the doc was split to cover TLS (as a priority), and a second document that is in preparation for SSH keys.

[OPSAWG]WG LC: draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-tls13

2024-06-27 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
Hi Rod, Many thanks for your kind words and previous feedback which helped significantly. Regarding your comment, It is a good proposal, but just to clarify, the paras are intended to convey from the flow perspective: para 4 covers the client start, para 5 then deals with server behaviour i.e.

[OPSAWG]Re: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-tls13-09.txt

2024-05-21 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
2024 at 17:57 To: Douglas Gash (dcmgash) , Douglas Gash (dcmgash) , Andrej Ota , John Heasley , Thorsten Dahm Subject: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-tls13-09.txt A new version of Internet-Draft draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-tls13-09.txt has been successfully submitted by Douglas C

[OPSAWG]Re: Request to review draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-tls13

2024-05-16 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
Thanks Valery, we will incorporate fixes for these along with fixes for Tirumal’s comments into rev 9 ASAP. From: mohamed.boucad...@orange.com Date: Thursday, 16 May 2024 at 14:38 To: Valery Smyslov Cc: draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-tl...@ietf.org , opsawg@ietf.org Subject: RE: Request to review d

[OPSAWG]Re: Request to review draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-tls13

2024-05-09 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
Many thanks Tirumal for the time taken for the review, and insights. We will prepare a new revision (rev 9) of the document ASAP, with corrections from your comments. Best Regards, The Authors. From: tirumal reddy Date: Tuesday, 7 May 2024 at 15:26 To: mohamed.boucad...@orange.com Cc: draft-

[OPSAWG]Re: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-tls13-06.txt: 9525 Section

2024-05-09 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
Thanks Mohamed, we will upload a new version with these changes, From: mohamed.boucad...@orange.com Date: Tuesday, 7 May 2024 at 18:03 To: Douglas Gash (dcmgash) Cc: John Heasley , Andrej Ota , Thorsten Dahm , opsawg@ietf.org Subject: RE: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs

[OPSAWG]Re: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-tls13-06.txt: 9525 Section

2024-05-07 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
SHOULD include the server domain name in the SNI "server_name" extension of the client hello. Certificate Provisioning is out of scope of this document. From: Douglas Gash (dcmgash) Date: Monday, 22 April 2024 at 10:21 To: mohamed.boucad...@orange.com Cc: John Heasley , Andrej Ota

Re: [OPSAWG] Secdir early review of draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-tls13-07

2024-05-01 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
Many thanks for the review, Russ! Please see below the initial changes based upon your comments, hopefully they have met the intent. Please advise if the updates are not addressing what you had in mind, or for any concerns. Best Regards, The Authors. From: Russ Housley via Datatracker Date:

Re: [OPSAWG] Confirm submission of I-D draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-tls13

2024-04-23 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
Will do. Would it be beneficial to enact an immediate new version upload for this? From: mohamed.boucad...@orange.com Date: Tuesday, 23 April 2024 at 16:05 To: Douglas Gash (dcmgash) , opsawg@ietf.org Cc: Andrej Ota , John Heasley , Thorsten Dahm Subject: RE: Confirm submission of I-D draft

Re: [OPSAWG] Confirm submission of I-D draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-tls13

2024-04-23 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
related to this draft version, shortly. Many thanks. The Authors. From: IETF I-D Submission Tool Date: Tuesday, 23 April 2024 at 14:46 To: Douglas Gash (dcmgash) , Andrej Ota , John Heasley , Thorsten Dahm Subject: Confirm submission of I-D draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-tls13 Hi, The IETF

Re: [OPSAWG] New Version Notification for draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-tls13-06.txt.

2024-04-22 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
Thanks Mohamed, please see inline… From: mohamed.boucad...@orange.com Date: Friday, 19 April 2024 at 18:31 To: Douglas Gash (dcmgash) Cc: John Heasley , Andrej Ota , Thorsten Dahm , opsawg@ietf.org Subject: RE: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-tls13-06.txt. Hi Douglas

Re: [OPSAWG] New Version Notification for draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-tls13-06.txt.

2024-04-19 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
document is getting stable more and more. Cheers, Med De : OPSAWG De la part de Douglas Gash (dcmgash) Envoyé : mercredi 20 mars 2024 16:40 À : opsawg@ietf.org Cc : John Heasley ; Andrej Ota Objet : Re: [OPSAWG] New Version Notification for draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-tls13-06.txt Dear OPSAWG

Re: [OPSAWG] New Version Notification for draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-tls13-06.txt

2024-04-17 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
Many Thanks Mohamed for the time taken and the detailed review. We’ll work through these (and reach out for any clarifications) ASAP. From: mohamed.boucad...@orange.com Date: Wednesday, 17 April 2024 at 16:42 To: Douglas Gash (dcmgash) , opsawg@ietf.org Cc: John Heasley , Andrej Ota Subject

Re: [OPSAWG] New Version Notification for draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-tls13-06.txt

2024-03-20 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
omissions or new comments and rectify quickly. And we will endeavour to respond ASAP to any other comments of any kind on the doc. Many thanks, Regards, The Authors. From: internet-dra...@ietf.org Date: Wednesday, 20 March 2024 at 15:27 To: Douglas Gash (dcmgash) , Douglas Gash (dcmgash

Re: [OPSAWG] [Editorial Errata Reported] RFC8907 (7754)

2024-02-08 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
d...@google.com , and...@ota.si , Douglas Gash (dcmgash) , car...@ipsec.org , lol.gr...@gmail.com , opsawg@ietf.org , RFC Editor Subject: Re: [Editorial Errata Reported] RFC8907 (7754) Hi Rebecca, authors, OPSAWG, I think that this errata is valid for both 5.1 and 6.1. I also noted a similar

Re: [OPSAWG] Submission of new version of TACACS+ TLS Spec (V4)

2024-01-25 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
at 14:34 To: Douglas Gash (dcmgash) , opsawg@ietf.org Cc: John Heasly , Andrej Ota Subject: RE: Submission of new version of TACACS+ TLS Spec (V4) Hi Authors, all, Many thanks for your effort on this document. I managed finally to read the new version. I’m afraid that some of the comments in

Re: [OPSAWG] Submission of new version of TACACS+ TLS Spec (V4)

2024-01-03 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
: Douglas Gash (dcmgash) Cc: opsawg@ietf.org , John Heasly , Andrej Ota Subject: Re: [OPSAWG] Submission of new version of TACACS+ TLS Spec (V4) On Dec 22, 2023, at 11:53 AM, Douglas Gash (dcmgash) wrote: > Some brief notes regarding the broader topics raised in v3, all items of > course, ar

[OPSAWG] Submission of new version of TACACS+ TLS Spec (V4)

2023-12-22 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
Dear OPSAWG, Many thank for all the comments on the Secure TACACS+ (TLS) draft v3. We have submitted a revised doc which intention to address the concerns and comments. It is rather later than originally planned, our apologies for the delay. We will look forward to addressing the corresponding

Re: [OPSAWG] Status of T+ TLS work

2023-10-23 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
Hi Joe, An update is underway, current phase is to examine RFC 9325, which seems very relevant, to see what can be delegated to it. From: Joe Clarke (jclarke) Date: Monday, 23 October 2023 at 18:04 To: draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-tl...@ietf.org Cc: opsawg@ietf.org Subject: Status of T+ TLS work

Re: [OPSAWG] TACACS+ SSH Enhancements Document

2022-11-01 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
the data field paradigm discussed earlier in the thread. We will follow with a document that describes the complete solution in detail. From: Douglas Gash (dcmgash) Date: Thursday, 8 September 2022 at 16:47 To: Alan DeKok Cc: opsawg@ietf.org , Andrej Ota , Thorsten Dahm , John Heasly Subject

Re: [OPSAWG] TACACS+ SSH Enhancements Document

2022-09-08 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
.” Regards. From: Alan DeKok Date: Thursday, 8 September 2022 at 14:56 To: Douglas Gash (dcmgash) Cc: opsawg@ietf.org , Andrej Ota , Thorsten Dahm , John Heasly Subject: Re: [OPSAWG] TACACS+ SSH Enhancements Document On Sep 8, 2022, at 6:47 AM, Douglas Gash (dcmgash) wrote: > The alternat

Re: [OPSAWG] TACACS+ SSH Enhancements Document

2022-09-08 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
encapsulated upgrade approach for implementors, and welcome feedback. Regards, The Authors. From: Alan DeKok Date: Tuesday, 30 August 2022 at 21:17 To: John Heasly Cc: Michael Richardson , Douglas Gash (dcmgash) , opsawg@ietf.org , Andrej Ota , Thorsten Dahm Subject: Re: [OPSAWG] TACACS+ SSH

Re: [OPSAWG] TACACS+ SSH Enhancements Document

2022-08-30 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
rdson" wrote: Douglas Gash \(dcmgash\) mailto:40cisco@dmarc.ietf.org>> wrote: > By addition here, I mean that the plan was for the original > Authentication packet to be interfered with in the minimal possible > way, but the generic arguments section (essentially A

[OPSAWG] TACACS+ SSH Enhancements Document

2022-08-29 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
Dear Alan, WG We are restarting the thread on the T+ enhancements for SSH. As background: on the recent doc, we had conflated the SSH enhancements with the TLS modifications, we have taken advice of WG to split these into separate docs, the TLS doc is being progressed independently. The first

Re: [OPSAWG] I-D Action: draft-dahm-opsawg-tacacs-security-00.txt

2022-06-30 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
Cc: opsawg@ietf.org , Douglas Gash (dcmgash) , Andrej Ota , Thorsten Dahm Subject: Re: [OPSAWG] I-D Action: draft-dahm-opsawg-tacacs-security-00.txt Thanks for your continued attention to this work, Alan. Your insight is very much appreciated. As an contributor, I rather like the simpler TLS

Re: [OPSAWG] [internet-dra...@ietf.org: I-D Action: draft-dahm-tacacs-security-00.txt]

2022-05-01 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
Dear Alan and OPSAWG, Many thanks for taking the time to take a scan on the T+ Document. Apologies for the delay in responding; this document is a collaboration between multiple authors and we’re getting our internal issue tracking process going. To this end, we have split your comments into 4

Re: [OPSAWG] Update on the TACACS+ (with TLS) draft

2022-01-18 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
Hi Joe, Yes, we will plan to get draft submitted before start March. On 16/01/2022, 18:53, "Joe Clarke (jclarke)" wrote: Happy new year, Thorsten (and other authors). I wanted to follow up to see how you are progressing on this T+/TLS work? Would be great to have a draft in prior

Re: [OPSAWG] TACACS++, please...

2021-04-22 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
April 2021 at 16:09 To: opsawg , Thorsten Dahm , Andrej Ota , "Douglas Gash (dcmgash)" , "car...@ipsec.org" , "lol.gr...@gmail.com" Subject: TACACS++, please... Hi there all, Last year we published "RFC8907 - The Terminal Access Controller Access-Control Sy

[OPSAWG] Addenda to the T+ informational draft

2020-09-15 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
Dear Opsawg, Now the T+ draft is released from the editor stage I have asked for Alan’s comment to be incorporated, and submitted one other addenda for clarification on command accounting, into the accounting attributes section: “Where the TACACS+ deployment is used to support the Device Admini

Re: [OPSAWG] OPSAWG Digest, Vol 159, Issue 10

2020-08-20 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
Thanks Alan, Good point. I believe the largest possible packets would fully loaded author reply, which is a little over 3* 2^16, so anything over 2^18 must be illegal. I think that we can add that Implementations MUST allow control over maximum packet sizes, with recommendations at 2^16, as you

Re: [OPSAWG] Alexey Melnikov's Discuss on draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-13: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2020-03-20 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
sure the readers can redirect if needed. Many thanks, Doug. On 18/03/2020, 13:28, "Alexey Melnikov" wrote: Hi Douglas, On Mon, Jan 27, 2020, at 8:28 PM, Douglas Gash (dcmgash) wrote: > 5) KRB5 and KRB4 need normative references. > TA> The KR

Re: [OPSAWG] Alexey Melnikov's Discuss on draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-13: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2020-01-27 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
Hi, I hope that in the last few versions we have updated the document to sufficiently answer the concerns raised, please let me know if any concerns remain, many thanks. The majority of the issues were responded to initially last summer, but the balance should be by the latest version recentl

Re: [OPSAWG] Roman Danyliw's Discuss on draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-13: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2020-01-27 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
Hi, I hope that in the last few versions we have updated the document to sufficiently answer the concerns raised, please let me know if any concerns remain, many thanks. The majority of the issues were answered last summer, but the balance should be by the latest version recently uploaded. Pl

Re: [OPSAWG] Progressing draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs

2020-01-27 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
Will do. On 27/01/2020, 15:42, "Joe Clarke (jclarke)" wrote: > On Jan 27, 2020, at 10:31, Warren Kumari wrote: > > Hi there authors and WG, > > I'm now the responsible AD for this document. > > There is *significant* history here, and it is going to tak

Re: [OPSAWG] Barry Leiba's Discuss on draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-13: (with DISCUSS)

2019-06-25 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
Many thanks for the comments. Please see responses from authors inline, marked “TA”. Action items from this mail to update the document are marked: [AI-TA] to mean: “action item for the authors”. On 16/05/2019, 6:10, "Barry Leiba via Datatracker" wrote: Barry Leiba has entered the followi

Re: [OPSAWG] Adam Roach's Discuss on draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-13: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2019-06-25 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
Thanks Adam, will do. On 16/05/2019, 15:34, "Adam Roach" wrote: On 5/16/19 1:04 AM, Adam Roach via Datatracker wrote: > Without specification of preparation profiles for usernames and passwords, > this is an incomplete specification of how to transmit non-ASCII > usernames and pa

Re: [OPSAWG] Adam Roach's Discuss on draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-13: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2019-06-25 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
Many thanks for the comments. Please see responses from authors inline, marked “TA”. Action items from this mail to update the document are marked: [AI-TA] to mean: “action item for the authors”. On 16/05/2019, 7:04, "Adam Roach via Datatracker" wrote: Adam Roach has entered the following

Re: [OPSAWG] Suresh Krishnan's No Objection on draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-13: (with COMMENT)

2019-06-25 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
Many thanks for the comments. Please see responses from authors inline, marked “TA”. Action items from this mail to update the document are marked: [AI-TA] to mean: “action item for the authors”. On 16/05/2019, 0:11, "Suresh Krishnan via Datatracker" wrote: Suresh Krishnan has entered the

Re: [OPSAWG] Éric Vyncke's No Objection on draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-13: (with COMMENT)

2019-06-25 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
Many thanks for the comments. Please see responses from authors inline, marked “TA”. Action items from this mail to update the document are marked: [AI-TA] to mean: “action item for the authors”. On 15/05/2019, 21:35, "Éric Vyncke via Datatracker" wrote: Éric Vyncke has entered the follow

Re: [OPSAWG] Roman Danyliw's Discuss on draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-13: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2019-06-25 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
Many thanks for the comments. Please see responses from authors inline, marked “TA”. Action items from this mail to update the document are marked: [AI-TA] to mean: “action item for the authors”. On 15/05/2019, 20:12, "Roman Danyliw via Datatracker" wrote: Roman Danyliw has entered the fo

Re: [OPSAWG] Alissa Cooper's Discuss on draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-13: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2019-06-23 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
Many thanks for the comments. Please see responses from authors inline, marked “TA”. Action items from this mail to update the document are marked: [AI-TA] to mean: “action item for the authors”. On 15/05/2019, 19:55, "Alissa Cooper via Datatracker" wrote: Alissa Cooper has entered the fo

Re: [OPSAWG] Alexey Melnikov's Discuss on draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-13: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2019-06-23 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
Many thanks for the comments. Please see responses from authors inline, marked “TA”. Action items from this mail to update the document are marked: [AI-TA] to mean: “action item for the authors”. On 16/05/2019, 7:21, "Alexey Melnikov via Datatracker" wrote: Alexey Melnikov has entered the

Re: [OPSAWG] Mirja Kühlewind's No Objection on draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-13: (with COMMENT)

2019-06-21 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
Many thanks for the comments. Please see responses from authors inline, marked “TA”. Action items from this mail to update the document are marked: [AI-TA] to mean: “action item for the authors”. On 15/05/2019, 19:03, "Mirja Kühlewind via Datatracker" wrote: Mirja Kühlewind has entered t

Re: [OPSAWG] Deborah Brungard's No Objection on draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-13: (with COMMENT)

2019-06-21 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
Many thanks for the comments. Please see responses from authors inline, marked “TA”. Action items from this mail to update the document are marked: [AI-TA] to mean: “action item for the authors”. On 14/05/2019, 17:33, "Deborah Brungard via Datatracker" wrote: Deborah Brungard has entered

Re: [OPSAWG] Genart telechat review of draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-13

2019-06-21 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
Many thanks for the comments. Please see responses from authors inline, marked “TA”. Action items from this mail to update the document are marked: [AI-TA] to mean: “action item for the authors”. On 13/05/2019, 13:54, "Stewart Bryant via Datatracker" wrote: Reviewer: Stewart Bryant Re

Re: [OPSAWG] OPSAWG Digest, Vol 137, Issue 3

2018-10-28 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
Hi Tom, Many thanks for your comments. Most will be resolved simply in next upload as a matter of course (see below), but would be good to clarify one point: I did wonder if TACACS had ever impinged on IANA and so would this I-D become a referenc

Re: [OPSAWG] IPR on draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs

2018-10-15 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
Confirming I am not aware of any IPR relating to this draft. From: Thorsten Dahm Date: Thursday, 11 October 2018 at 16:11 To: "Joe Clarke (jclarke)" Cc: "opsawg@ietf.org" , Andrej Ota , "Douglas Gash (dcmgash)" , "dcar...@viptela.com" , "lol.gr.

Re: [OPSAWG] New Version Notification for draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-11.txt

2018-10-02 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
Dear Opsawg, Revision 11 of the T+ information draft has been uploaded. The changes cover: - Updates to Security section 9, primarily sections 9.5-9.7 has been rationalized into a single section - Updates to CHAP authentication, removing erroneous paras. - Corrections of some typographic/style e

Re: [OPSAWG] TACACS+ information Draft Security Recommendations refactor

2018-08-01 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
Apologies for the interruption in the conversation. Attached should incorporate yours and Alan’s latest comments, and some client side comments have been addressed. Please find attached. Many thanks. On 16/07/2018, 6:56, "Douglas Gash (dcmgash)" wrote: Hi Joe,

Re: [OPSAWG] TACACS+ information Draft Security Recommendations refactor

2018-07-15 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
Hi Joe, Thanks Joe, all useful comments. I believe that most of them were caught in the previous upload (in which we responded to Alan’s last mail), I will make sure that any missing are in the next. On 16/07/2018, 0:20, "Joe Clarke" wrote: On 7/14/18 00:57, Douglas Gash (dcmg

Re: [OPSAWG] TACACS+ information Draft Security Recommendations refactor

2018-07-14 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
Thanks Alan… On 14/07/2018, 15:00, "Alan DeKok" wrote: On Jul 14, 2018, at 12:57 AM, Douglas Gash (dcmgash) wrote: > > Dear Alan, > > Do the changes below clarify the intent sufficiently? (please find diff below) The changes are mainly in first sec

Re: [OPSAWG] TACACS+ information Draft Security Recommendations refactor

2018-07-13 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
Dear Alan, Do the changes below clarify the intent sufficiently? (please find diff below) The changes are mainly in first section with a few tweaks in later sections. Many thanks. 9.5 Deployment Best Practices With respect to the observations about the security issues described above, a  netw

Re: [OPSAWG] TACACS+ information Draft Security Recommendations refactor

2018-07-13 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
Thanks Alan... > On 13 Jul 2018, at 14:30, Alan DeKok wrote: > >> On Jul 13, 2018, at 1:00 AM, Douglas Gash (dcmgash) >> wrote: >> 9.5 Deployment Best Practices >> >> With respect to the observations about the security issues described above, >> a

Re: [OPSAWG] TACACS+ information Draft Security Recommendations refactor

2018-07-12 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
Dear OPSAWG, Below is a revised version of the recommendations. I have understood the consensus to be, that we should keep the strength of the recommendations, but explain how these should be applies in the real world with many, potentially very old implementations in place. Consequently, pret

Re: [OPSAWG] TACACS+ information Draft Security Recommendations refactor

2018-07-12 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
your question on current implmentations, On 09/07/2018, 23:55, "Joe Clarke" wrote: On 7/6/18 09:39, Douglas Gash (dcmgash) wrote: > > Hi, > > Below is revised version of the subsection, based upon Alan’s comments, > > Many thanks.

Re: [OPSAWG] Action Items on TACACS+ informational draft v 10

2018-07-09 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
Hi, I believe the MUST/SHOULD debate pertains only to the recommendations section, the rest of the documents sticks to description of current status apart from the documented deprecations that no sensible implementation would do today, i.e. a few deletions but no updates. The discussion focuss

Re: [OPSAWG] TACACS+ information Draft Security Recommendations refactor

2018-07-06 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
, 17:23, "Douglas Gash (dcmgash)" wrote: Hi Alan, Thank you for the response. Please see responses below. On 28/06/2018, 14:22, "Alan DeKok" wrote: On Jun 28, 2018, at 2:03 AM, Douglas Gash (dcmgash) wrote: >

Re: [OPSAWG] TACACS+ information Draft Security Recommendations refactor

2018-06-28 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
Hi Alan, Thank you for the response. Please see responses below. On 28/06/2018, 14:22, "Alan DeKok" wrote: On Jun 28, 2018, at 2:03 AM, Douglas Gash (dcmgash) wrote: > > Dear Opsawg, > > The TACACS+ Draft Version 9 contains a security s

[OPSAWG] TACACS+ information Draft Security Recommendations refactor

2018-06-27 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
Dear Opsawg, The TACACS+ Draft Version 9 contains a security section, the last three subsections of which are recommendations. There is some overlap and repetition between sections where the same issues are covered from different angles, which we believe may lead to ambiguity. So instead we pr

Re: [OPSAWG] Action Items on TACACS+ informational draft v 10

2018-06-27 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
Hi Joe, We will update on 1) by end of the week. 2) Was sent previously, any feedback on it welcome. 3) I will send out initial proposal today to the list. Thanks, Doug. On 27/06/2018, 16:13, "Joe Clarke" wrote: On 6/10/18 04:43, Douglas Gash (dcmgash) wrote: >

[OPSAWG] Action Items on TACACS+ informational draft v 10

2018-06-10 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
Dear Opsawg, A status update on informational T+ Draft: 1) Current discussion between Andrej and (mainly) Joe Clarke on some section 9 (Security), ongoing, Andrej/Authors will respond to Joe’s latest comments shortly. 2) Diffs between Version 6 and Version 10 with brief annotations of each diff

[OPSAWG] TACACS+ Information Document Diffs Version 6-10

2018-05-12 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
Dear OPSAWG, Please find below a first attempt to run through the differences between the document version 6 (Feb 10 2017) and version 10 (April 15 2018). The Diff was generated using the “Change Bar” option of the Document History page. (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-opsawg-tacac

Re: [OPSAWG] New Version Notification for draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-10.txt

2018-04-17 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
Hi Alan, I hope that we can address your concerns. I think the main points that you raise the we (the authors) need to address are: 1) The security section 2) Reactivity of the authors 3) Change Tracking 1) The Security Section The starting point is that we know that TACACS+ needs enhancement

Re: [OPSAWG] New Version Notification for draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-10.txt

2018-04-14 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
Hello Opsawg, We have uploaded a new version of the TACACS+ informational draft which includes corrections for typos over the document as a whole, but also revised the security section. We anticipate this security section will get most comments, so it is reproduced below. We will endeavor to b

Re: [OPSAWG] OPSAWG Digest, Vol 130, Issue 14

2018-04-04 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
Hello OPSAWG, Regarding the T+ document: Version 9 (below) had a small number of mainly typographic corrections. We believe that the main area of deficiency in the document is section 9 (Security). Our plan is to post this specific section to the list for review next week (after some initial

Re: [OPSAWG] I-D Action: draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-08.txt

2018-03-20 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
section completed directly after. On 20/03/2018, 12:05, "Alan DeKok" wrote: > On Mar 19, 2018, at 3:37 PM, Douglas Gash (dcmgash) wrote: > > Apologies for delay Alan, I have goofed with mail forwarding. > > We still have some work to do on the

Re: [OPSAWG] I-D Action: draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-08.txt

2018-03-19 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
Apologies for delay Alan, I have goofed with mail forwarding. We still have some work to do on the security section. I will check to see which items we missed outside the security section, as I thought we had them all covered. Clearly the last upload took rather longer than initially planned. W

Re: [OPSAWG] I-D Action: draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-08.txt

2018-03-19 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
Apologies for the delay, For some reason the mails did not get through until fellow author kindly forwarded them, disturbed by my rudeness for not having responded. Thanks Joe, all very valid and will fix forthwith, -- Forwarded message - From: Joe Clarke mailto:jcla...@cisco.co

Re: [OPSAWG] draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-06 ASCII

2017-09-17 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
y rewritten by the recent submissions. Thanks, Regards, Doug. On 17/09/2017 15:26, "Alan DeKok" wrote: >On Sep 16, 2017, at 11:41 PM, Douglas Gash (dcmgash) >wrote: >> >> We¹re preparing the next revision. Regarding attribute value encoding, >> we¹re pr

Re: [OPSAWG] draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-06 ASCII

2017-09-16 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
>in a username, anyone? > >RFC4234 is to me a good example of an RFC that starts with RFC20 (or the >equivalent thereof) and produces something more usable. > >Tom Petch > >On 5/19/17 7:51 PM, Douglas Gash (dcmgash) wrote: >> >> On 19/05/2017 18:11, "Alan DeKo

Re: [OPSAWG] draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-06 Contributions, Status and Plans

2017-05-26 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
15:03, "Alan DeKok" wrote: >On May 20, 2017, at 8:24 AM, Douglas Gash (dcmgash) >wrote: >>> If the field is unused, the spec should say the field is ignored, and >>> treated as if it did not exist. >> >> Agreed, though I¹m not sure how an u

Re: [OPSAWG] draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-06 Contributions, Status and Plans - types

2017-05-26 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
is opaque type as needed and > required by the security protocols utilized. > > dataAn opaque type representing data obtained from > measurements. > > Names of objects are generally assumed to be unique within an > implementation. > >

Re: [OPSAWG] draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-06 Contributions, Status and Plans

2017-05-20 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
As always, thanks for the comments! Regards, Doug Inline... On 17/05/2017 15:54, "Alan DeKok" wrote: >On May 16, 2017, at 4:06 PM, Douglas Gash (dcmgash) >wrote: >> Many items are marked with just [Agree], if it seems there is a trivial >>way to adjust according

Re: [OPSAWG] draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-06 ASCII

2017-05-19 Thread Douglas Gash (dcmgash)
On 19/05/2017 18:11, "Alan DeKok" wrote: >On May 19, 2017, at 6:38 AM, t.petch wrote: >> >> Another fresh topic, so a slight change in the Subject: >> >> I think that the use of the term ASCII needs more thought. > > Speaking only as an opinionated WG member... yes. > >> d) in some places,

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