Many thanks Eric, for taking the time to dig into the doc.

Please see responses inline, we’ll upgrade the doc appropriately, it will 
definitely improve it, and if you have any concerns about the responses, please 
let us know.

I have one query (please see below)

Re:
s/separate TCP/IP port number /separate TCP port/
For Clarification Eric, can you let me know if the issue is the “/IP” or the 
“number”? We have recently ensured that all applicable mentions of “port” are 
replaced with “port number”.

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# Éric Vyncke, INT AD, comments for draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-tls13-23
CC @evyncke

Thank you for the work put into this document.

Please find below some non-blocking COMMENT points/nits (replies would be
appreciated even if only for my own education).

Special thanks to Joe Clarke for the shepherd's detailed write-up including the
WG consensus *and* the justification of the intended status especially the
relationship to the informational RFC 8907.

I hope that this review helps to improve the document,

Regards,

-éric

## COMMENTS (non-blocking)

### Header

The header part is missing the draft name (not critical at this stage).

### QUIC

At least, some justifications why TLS was preferred to QUIC or HTTPS would be
welcome.
TACACS+ has a specific wired datacentre context, with establish deployments and 
infra, which guides us the TCP route for incremental (but necessary) 
improvements to its commonly deployed stack. That being the case, QUIC’s 
advantages for speeding up the web scale were not seen as being applicable and 
same applies really for introducing HTTPS into this stack. Adding context to 
the TLS preference will definitely be an improvement, but I thin, that we may 
skip covering the QUIC and HTTPS alternatives, unless we get feedback to the 
contrary.


### Section 3.1

I was unaware that the TLS handshake can be done not immediately after the TCP
handshake as hinted by `Therefore, when a TCP connection is established for the
service, a TLS handshake begins immediately.` or should this sentence be
removed ?
This clarification anticipates the STARTTLS discussion, wherein some TCP 
traffic may be processed before the handshake. Now that STARTTLS has been fully 
discounted, then, we will clarify to try to avoid confusion.


s/separate TCP/IP port number /separate TCP port/
For Clarification Eric, can you let me know if the issue is the “/IP” or the 
“number”? We have recently ensured that all applicable mentions of “port” are 
are replaced with “port number”.


### Section 3.2

s/in which case the ticket might be invalidated/in which case the *session
resumption* ticket might be invalidated/

I am not a security expert, but s/might/SHOULD/ seems more appropriate with an
explanation *when* it can be kept.
Understood. Proposed change, hopefully this will clarify:
OLD:
Why it closed has no bearing on TLS resumption, unless closed by a TLS error, 
in which case the ticket might be invalidated.
NEW:
Why it closed has no bearing on TLS resumption, unless closed by a TLS error, 
in which case it is possible that the ticket has been invalidated.


### Section 3.4.1

When can the "SHOULD" by bypassed in `TLS Cached Information Extension
[RFC7924] SHOULD be implemented.` ?
In prosaic terms: this caching enhancement is a specific enhancement to the 
stack, if it is not available in the stack, this doc would not preclude that 
stack being used.


### Section 7

Unsure how to read `IANA (has allocated) is requested ` as the IANA has not yet
allocated a port number (you may want to suggest a value).
Agreed, and this has been cleaned in a later version. Currently, we have:
“The authors request that, when this draft is accepted by the working group, 
the OPSAWG Chairs submit a request to IANA for an early allocation, per 
[RFC4020<https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-tls13-07.html#RFC4020>]
 and 
[RFC6335<https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-tls13-07.html#RFC6335>],
 of a new well-known system TCP/IP port number for the service name "tacacss" 
(referenced in this document also as "TACACS+ TLS well-known port ([TBD])"), 
described as "TACACS+ over TLS". The service name "tacacss" follows the common 
practice of appending an "s" to the name given to the Non-TLS well-known port 
name. This allocation is justified in Section 
5.3<https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-tls13-07.html#wellknown>.This
 document requests IANA to add a new entity from the "Service name and 
Transport Protocol Port Number Registry" available at 
https://www.iana.org/assignments/service-name-port-numbers/”


### Operational considerations

Should the impact of the use of mutual TLS authentication be described ?
Notably the provisioning of certs to all peers.

Probably, we have not identified all the operational impacts of mutual 
authentication, and I certainly agree that this specific you mentioned would be 
worth drawing attention to. We will draw attention to iot.
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