Re: OpenWrt Next Generation Ideas

2023-04-16 Thread Sam Kuper
On Sun, Apr 16, 2023 at 12:59:49PM +0300, Arınç ÜNAL wrote: > On 15.04.2023 20:02, Sam Kuper wrote: >> On Fri, Mar 31, 2023 at 12:44:12PM +0300, Arınç ÜNAL wrote: >>> These are the ideas I've been thinking about for the future of >>> OpenWrt for a while. It looks complete enough to share it with al

Re: OpenWrt Next Generation Ideas

2023-04-16 Thread Arınç ÜNAL
On 15.04.2023 20:02, Sam Kuper wrote: On Fri, Mar 31, 2023 at 12:44:12PM +0300, Arınç ÜNAL wrote: These are the ideas I've been thinking about for the future of OpenWrt for a while. It looks complete enough to share it with all of you. [...] https://arinc9.notion.site/OpenWrt-next-gen-ideas-6db

Re: OpenWrt Next Generation Ideas

2023-04-15 Thread Sam Kuper
On Fri, Mar 31, 2023 at 12:44:12PM +0300, Arınç ÜNAL wrote: > These are the ideas I've been thinking about for the future of OpenWrt > for a while. It looks complete enough to share it with all of you. > [...] > > https://arinc9.notion.site/OpenWrt-next-gen-ideas-6db745e7584b4823950291c96f2326bb

Re: OpenWrt Next Generation Ideas

2023-04-01 Thread Arınç ÜNAL
On 31.03.2023 20:15, Felix Fietkau wrote: On 31.03.23 18:55, Arınç ÜNAL wrote: On 31.03.2023 19:45, Felix Fietkau wrote: On 31.03.23 18:40, Arınç ÜNAL wrote: I just thought of this. Why don't we just, for example, 'make mt7621_defconfig && make mod2noconfig', then compile normally with kernel

Re: OpenWrt Next Generation Ideas

2023-04-01 Thread Arınç ÜNAL
On 31.03.2023 14:33, Daniel Golle wrote: Hi! On Fri, Mar 31, 2023 at 12:44:12PM +0300, Arınç ÜNAL wrote: Hi all, These are the ideas I've been thinking about for the future of OpenWrt for a while. It looks complete enough to share it with all of you. I'm willing to put a great deal of effort

Re: OpenWrt Next Generation Ideas

2023-04-01 Thread Rui Salvaterra
Hi, everyone! On Fri, 31 Mar 2023 at 22:28, Daniel Golle wrote: > [snipped] > The point here is not optimization, but finding a good compromise to > not having to compile **all** packages for **all** CPU architectures. > The same is btw also true for MIPS and ARM targets. We pick a good > comp

Re: OpenWrt Next Generation Ideas

2023-03-31 Thread Rosen Penev
On Fri, Mar 31, 2023 at 6:50 AM Daniel Golle wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 31, 2023 at 03:52:47PM +0300, Arınç ÜNAL wrote: > > On 31.03.2023 14:33, Daniel Golle wrote: > > > Hi! > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 31, 2023 at 12:44:12PM +0300, Arınç ÜNAL wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > These are the ideas I'v

Re: OpenWrt Next Generation Ideas

2023-03-31 Thread Elliott Mitchell
On Fri, Mar 31, 2023 at 10:26:37PM +0100, Daniel Golle wrote: > On Fri, Mar 31, 2023 at 01:34:03PM -0700, Elliott Mitchell wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 31, 2023 at 02:47:23PM +0100, Daniel Golle wrote: > > > > > > Another example is selection of the rootfs. Kernel folks argue that > > > we should use an

Re: OpenWrt Next Generation Ideas

2023-03-31 Thread Dave Taht
Off this enormous list: https://forum.openwrt.org/t/cerowrt-ii-would-anyone-care/110554 "Matter" has begun to matter, I think. Where does openwrt stand on that? ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/ma

Re: OpenWrt Next Generation Ideas

2023-03-31 Thread Daniel Golle
On Fri, Mar 31, 2023 at 01:34:03PM -0700, Elliott Mitchell wrote: > On Fri, Mar 31, 2023 at 02:47:23PM +0100, Daniel Golle wrote: > > > > Another example is selection of the rootfs. Kernel folks argue that > > we should use an initramfs for that, however, we try to avoid the > > overhead of using

Re: OpenWrt Next Generation Ideas

2023-03-31 Thread Elliott Mitchell
On Fri, Mar 31, 2023 at 02:47:23PM +0100, Daniel Golle wrote: > > Another example is selection of the rootfs. Kernel folks argue that > we should use an initramfs for that, however, we try to avoid the > overhead of using an initramfs with it's own userland just for that. There are two options he

Re: OpenWrt Next Generation Ideas

2023-03-31 Thread Felix Fietkau
On 31.03.23 18:55, Arınç ÜNAL wrote: On 31.03.2023 19:45, Felix Fietkau wrote: On 31.03.23 18:40, Arınç ÜNAL wrote: I just thought of this. Why don't we just, for example, 'make mt7621_defconfig && make mod2noconfig', then compile normally with kernel module packages. This way, OpenWrt compile

Re: OpenWrt Next Generation Ideas

2023-03-31 Thread Arınç ÜNAL
On 31.03.2023 19:45, Felix Fietkau wrote: On 31.03.23 18:40, Arınç ÜNAL wrote: I just thought of this. Why don't we just, for example, 'make mt7621_defconfig && make mod2noconfig', then compile normally with kernel module packages. This way, OpenWrt compiles a kernel with the least amount of ke

Re: OpenWrt Next Generation Ideas

2023-03-31 Thread Felix Fietkau
On 31.03.23 18:40, Arınç ÜNAL wrote: I just thought of this. Why don't we just, for example, 'make mt7621_defconfig && make mod2noconfig', then compile normally with kernel module packages. This way, OpenWrt compiles a kernel with the least amount of kernel modules (or rather, it compiles the ke

Re: OpenWrt Next Generation Ideas

2023-03-31 Thread Arınç ÜNAL
On 31.03.2023 19:35, Felix Fietkau wrote: On 31.03.23 18:22, Arınç ÜNAL wrote: On 31.03.2023 19:04, Felix Fietkau wrote: On 31.03.23 14:52, Arınç ÜNAL wrote: On 31.03.2023 14:33, Daniel Golle wrote: Hi! On Fri, Mar 31, 2023 at 12:44:12PM +0300, Arınç ÜNAL wrote: Hi all, These are the ideas

Re: OpenWrt Next Generation Ideas

2023-03-31 Thread Felix Fietkau
On 31.03.23 18:22, Arınç ÜNAL wrote: On 31.03.2023 19:04, Felix Fietkau wrote: On 31.03.23 14:52, Arınç ÜNAL wrote: On 31.03.2023 14:33, Daniel Golle wrote: Hi! On Fri, Mar 31, 2023 at 12:44:12PM +0300, Arınç ÜNAL wrote: Hi all, These are the ideas I've been thinking about for the future of

Re: OpenWrt Next Generation Ideas

2023-03-31 Thread Arınç ÜNAL
On 31.03.2023 19:04, Felix Fietkau wrote: On 31.03.23 14:52, Arınç ÜNAL wrote: On 31.03.2023 14:33, Daniel Golle wrote: Hi! On Fri, Mar 31, 2023 at 12:44:12PM +0300, Arınç ÜNAL wrote: Hi all, These are the ideas I've been thinking about for the future of OpenWrt for a while. It looks compl

Re: OpenWrt Next Generation Ideas

2023-03-31 Thread Daniel Golle
On Fri, Mar 31, 2023 at 04:18:53PM +, psv sridhar wrote: > idiots, email looks like offcial and you are sending to un-known people. >  Thanks and Regards Thank you for the kind advise. This is a deliberate public debate and you are welcome to participate in any meaningful way. > Sridhar PSVP

Re: OpenWrt Next Generation Ideas

2023-03-31 Thread Arınç ÜNAL
On 31.03.2023 18:36, Daniel Golle wrote: On Fri, Mar 31, 2023 at 05:35:22PM +0300, Arınç ÜNAL wrote: On 31.03.2023 16:47, Daniel Golle wrote: On Fri, Mar 31, 2023 at 03:52:47PM +0300, Arınç ÜNAL wrote: On 31.03.2023 14:33, Daniel Golle wrote: Hi! On Fri, Mar 31, 2023 at 12:44:12PM +0300, Arı

Re: OpenWrt Next Generation Ideas

2023-03-31 Thread Felix Fietkau
On 31.03.23 14:52, Arınç ÜNAL wrote: On 31.03.2023 14:33, Daniel Golle wrote: Hi! On Fri, Mar 31, 2023 at 12:44:12PM +0300, Arınç ÜNAL wrote: Hi all, These are the ideas I've been thinking about for the future of OpenWrt for a while. It looks complete enough to share it with all of you. I'm

Re: OpenWrt Next Generation Ideas

2023-03-31 Thread Daniel Golle
On Fri, Mar 31, 2023 at 05:35:22PM +0300, Arınç ÜNAL wrote: > On 31.03.2023 16:47, Daniel Golle wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 31, 2023 at 03:52:47PM +0300, Arınç ÜNAL wrote: > > > On 31.03.2023 14:33, Daniel Golle wrote: > > > > Hi! > > > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 31, 2023 at 12:44:12PM +0300, Arınç ÜNAL wro

Re: OpenWrt Next Generation Ideas-User Experience

2023-03-31 Thread Rich Brown
Thanks Arınç for opening this discussion about improving the development process. I would like to expand the discussion to include what, if any, changes we'd like to make in the user experience for OpenWrt. The first one I would propose is "Automatic renumbering of LAN in case of conflict with

Re: OpenWrt Next Generation Ideas

2023-03-31 Thread Fernando Frediani
Hello there I also don't have Notion account so will reply here to all can take note and discuss. I have basically 2 notes: 1 - One thing that would be interesting to have it by default regarding IPv6 is make the router to find out if it received an IPv6 address in the WAN interface but not

Re: OpenWrt Next Generation Ideas

2023-03-31 Thread Arınç ÜNAL
On 31.03.2023 16:47, Daniel Golle wrote: On Fri, Mar 31, 2023 at 03:52:47PM +0300, Arınç ÜNAL wrote: On 31.03.2023 14:33, Daniel Golle wrote: Hi! On Fri, Mar 31, 2023 at 12:44:12PM +0300, Arınç ÜNAL wrote: Hi all, These are the ideas I've been thinking about for the future of OpenWrt for a w

Re: OpenWrt Next Generation Ideas

2023-03-31 Thread Daniel Golle
On Fri, Mar 31, 2023 at 03:52:47PM +0300, Arınç ÜNAL wrote: > On 31.03.2023 14:33, Daniel Golle wrote: > > Hi! > > > > On Fri, Mar 31, 2023 at 12:44:12PM +0300, Arınç ÜNAL wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > These are the ideas I've been thinking about for the future of OpenWrt > > > for a > > > wh

Re: OpenWrt Next Generation Ideas

2023-03-31 Thread Arınç ÜNAL
On 31.03.2023 14:33, Daniel Golle wrote: Hi! On Fri, Mar 31, 2023 at 12:44:12PM +0300, Arınç ÜNAL wrote: Hi all, These are the ideas I've been thinking about for the future of OpenWrt for a while. It looks complete enough to share it with all of you. I'm willing to put a great deal of effort

Re: OpenWrt Next Generation Ideas

2023-03-31 Thread Daniel Golle
Hi! On Fri, Mar 31, 2023 at 12:44:12PM +0300, Arınç ÜNAL wrote: > Hi all, > > These are the ideas I've been thinking about for the future of OpenWrt for a > while. It looks complete enough to share it with all of you. > > I'm willing to put a great deal of effort to get as much out-of-tree patch