My first email was wrong, and i don't want to criticize anybody work, don't
want to insult anybody,
and really don't want to start a war.
Apologies again
2014-10-02 13:55 GMT+02:00 Imre Kaloz :
> John,
>
> Please mind your manners and keep the discussion at a professional level.
> I doubt Etienn
October 2014 3:31 PM
To: Hanno Schupp
Cc: OpenWrt Development List
Subject: Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Open source & open process
no its certainly farting. i have you 2 and about 1 other person
complain. the other 95% sent me mails with nice and simple questions and
input and so forth.
i just had a
John,
Please mind your manners and keep the discussion at a professional level. I
doubt Etienne wanted to insult you or criticize your work, and it's true that
we did not announce of the availability of final binaries yet.
Imre
On Thu, 02 Oct 2014 07:30:41 +0200, John Crispin wrote:
no i
On 2014-10-02 11:06, Bruno Randolf wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> While we all agree that the OpenWRT core developers are doing great
> work, are really busy, and sometimes it's more important to fix a bug
> that to send an email, I think Etienne raises a valid point here:
> communication could be better an
On 02.10.2014 12:21, Hanno Schupp wrote:
> For example, I did not know that "BB-final binaries have been online for
> over a day"... is it really too much to ask to send a short note about a
> major release to the mailing list?
exactly Etiennes point, correct and valid as opposed to uncivilized co
Really, John?
Personal insults through direct emails?
On 2 October 2014 18:14, John Crispin wrote:
> until now i considered you "one of the reliable crowd" and just
> reasserted to "yet another troll"
>
>
> On 02/10/2014 07:01, Hanno Schupp wrote:
> > I think this is his point, mate: You work ha
Apparently yes, Bruno. Just asking for more communication while at the same
time even commending the devs for their hard work, as Etienne did, seems to
justify being insulted.
Personal sensibilities aside this has been a bone of contention for a long
time. Here just a couple of examples:
https://l
Hi all,
While we all agree that the OpenWRT core developers are doing great
work, are really busy, and sometimes it's more important to fix a bug
that to send an email, I think Etienne raises a valid point here:
communication could be better and the project management could be more
open...
For ex
Hello everyone !
Relax :) If we are reading this list it is because we all want a
better OpenWrt, and we all do the best we can for it.
Etienne in my experience the OpenWrt group is really open. The problem
is the that core people have to face thousands of contacts over the
Internet from unknown
Hi and sorry John and all other that i could have offended.
That was really not the goal of my mail, and me being a bit tired and not
so good in english,
i wrote an awful rant without noticing.
Thanks for all the work that you are doing. I know that you and other are
working hard
to provide us the
no its certainly farting. i have you 2 and about 1 other person
complain. the other 95% sent me mails with nice and simple questions and
input and so forth.
i just had a look, yesterday i got related to BB
* 8 "thank you" mails
* 6 mails asking for various support things
* 4 pkg maintainers ask
I think this is his point, mate: You work hard (in isolation), but don't
communicate.
If you want to avoid emails that smell like farts to you, why not tell
people what's going on?
On 2 October 2014 17:51, John Crispin wrote:
> nice rant, what happened at mignight that you got so angry that you
nice rant, what happened at mignight that you got so angry that you
feel you needed to vent it out on us ?
i would like to point out that the BB-final binaries have been online
for over a day. currently the root filesystems only hold a opkg.conf
with base and luci. last night we regenerated the fi
Hi,
OpenWRT is a wonderfull piece of open source code, and it would be really
great if the project management could be as open as the code.
BB should be out now but for an unknow reason, it's not, and it's
frustating.
If some feature are missing, let people know.
If some bugs need to be killed, le
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