Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] [qa] EC2 status and call for assistance

2014-04-23 Thread Michael Still
On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 4:47 AM, Randy Bias wrote: > ... I’d like to recommend we move > them into Stackforge as we did with the GCE APIs. That way these can become > optional components installed by those who want to use them. The other > advantage is that they can be iterated on out of band.

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] [qa] EC2 status and call for assistance

2014-04-23 Thread Michael Still
On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 7:39 AM, Joe Gordon wrote: > So no one is seriously discussing moving EC2 out of nova right now. The > issue is that the EC2 code and tempest tests aren't being maintained are > slowly code rotting. The goal of this thread is to get some volunteers to > work on EC2. > > "I

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] nova-specs and python-novaclient

2014-04-23 Thread Michael Still
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 11:34 PM, Russell Bryant wrote: > John originally mentioned this on the review, but Phil and I both seem > to agree. > > Most novaclient work can just be a work item of a nova blueprint. How > about we just handle it that way? For those cases where that's true I agree th

[openstack-dev] [Compute][Nova] Announcing my candidacy for PTL

2014-09-19 Thread Michael Still
I'd like another term as Compute PTL, if you'll have me. We live in interesting times. OpenStack has clearly gained a large amount of mind share in the open cloud marketplace, with Nova being a very commonly deployed component. Yet, we don't have a fantastic container solution, which is our bigges

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] 2 weeks in the bug tracker

2014-09-19 Thread Michael Still
On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 11:13 PM, Sean Dague wrote: > I've spent the better part of the last 2 weeks in the Nova bug tracker > to try to turn it into something that doesn't cause people to run away > screaming. I don't remember exactly where we started at open bug count 2 > weeks ago (it was north

Re: [openstack-dev] Oslo final releases ready

2014-09-19 Thread Michael Still
Thanks. That's now approved and we're waiting for the merge. Michael On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 7:30 PM, Andrey Kurilin wrote: > Here you are!:) > https://review.openstack.org/#/c/122667 > > On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 9:02 AM, Michael Still wrote: >> >> I would like

Re: [openstack-dev] Oslo final releases ready

2014-09-20 Thread Michael Still
And the python-novaclient release has now been done. Thanks, Michael On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 6:53 AM, Michael Still wrote: > Thanks. That's now approved and we're waiting for the merge. > > Michael > > On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 7:30 PM, Andrey Kurilin wrote: &g

[openstack-dev] Reverting recent refactorings of RBD support for config drives

2014-09-22 Thread Michael Still
Hi. Today I encountered bug 1369627 [1] as I trolled the status of release critical bugs, which appears to be fall out from the decision to implement adding support for config drives stored in RBD. While I have no problem with that being at thing we do, I'm concerned by the way it was implemented

[openstack-dev] [Nova] Deprecating localfs?

2014-09-22 Thread Michael Still
Hi. I know we've been talking about deprecating nova.virt.disk.vfs.localfs for a long time, in favour of wanting people to use libguestfs instead. However, I can't immediately find any written documentation for when we said we'd do that thing. Additionally, this came to my attention because Ubunt

Re: [openstack-dev] Reverting recent refactorings of RBD support for config drives

2014-09-22 Thread Michael Still
es LVM support, and leaves an unused file > behind in the instance directory. Other than that, it's acceptable for a > late-stage change, IMO. > > Best Regards, > Solly > > - Original Message - >> From: "Michael Still" >> To: "OpenStack

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Deprecating localfs?

2014-09-23 Thread Michael Still
:53:36AM +1000, Michael Still wrote: >> Hi. >> >> I know we've been talking about deprecating nova.virt.disk.vfs.localfs >> for a long time, in favour of wanting people to use libguestfs >> instead. However, I can't immediately find any written docu

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Deprecating localfs?

2014-09-23 Thread Michael Still
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 8:58 PM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 02:27:52PM +0400, Roman Bogorodskiy wrote: >> Michael Still wrote: >> >> > Hi. >> > >> > I know we've been talking about deprecating nova.virt.disk.vfs.localfs &g

[openstack-dev] [Nova] Release criticality of bug 1365606 (get_network_info efficiency for nova-network)

2014-09-24 Thread Michael Still
Hi, so, I'd really like to see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/121663/ merged in rc1. That patch is approved right now. However, it depends on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/119521/, which is not approved. 119521 fixes a problem where we make five RPC calls per call to get_network_info, which

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] when will the spec repo for kilo be opened up for nova

2014-09-29 Thread Michael Still
We agreed a few nova team meetings ago that this would be done in early October, so I expect it will happen sometime this week. Cheers, Michael On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 10:09 AM, John Zhang wrote: > Hi, > > We wrote a spec (for fast booting a large number of VMs) but failed to catch > up with Jun

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Kilo Blueprints and Specs

2014-09-29 Thread Michael Still
It seems like a no-brainer to me to prioritise people who have been patient with us. How about we tag these re-proposals with a commit message tag people can search for when they review? Perhaps "Previously-approved: Juno"? Michael On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 11:06 AM, Joe Gordon wrote: > > > On M

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] icehouse failure rates are somewhat catastrophic - who is actually maintaining it?

2014-10-01 Thread Michael Still
I agree with Sean here. The original idea was that these stable branches would be maintained by the distros, and that is clearly not happening if you look at the code review latency there. We need to sort that out before we even consider supporting a release for more than the one year we currently

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][neutron] "Sideways" grenade job to test Nova Network to Neutron migration

2014-10-01 Thread Michael Still
Thanks for doing this. My recollection is that we still need some features landed in Neutron before this work can complete, but its possible I am confused. A public status update on that from the Neutron team would be good. Michael On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 6:18 AM, Clark Boylan wrote: > Hello, >

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][gate] configurable quota threshold warnings?

2014-10-06 Thread Michael Still
Logging like that is useful for admins, but I wonder if we should talk about notifications as well. That would allow people to build systems which warned the user as well that they are nearing quota. Michael On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 2:33 AM, Matt Riedemann wrote: > I'm floating this in case the i

[openstack-dev] [Compute][Nova] Kilo specs are open for business

2014-10-06 Thread Michael Still
I am pleased to announce that the specs process for nova in kilo is now open. There are some tweaks to the previous process, so please read this entire email before uploading your spec! Blueprints approved in Juno === For specs approved in Juno, there is a fast track appro

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] gerrit based statistics

2014-10-08 Thread Michael Still
On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Joe Gordon wrote: > On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 4:30 PM, Joe Gordon wrote: >> >> Recently there has been a lot of discussion around the development growing >> pains in nova. Instead of guessing about how bad some of the issues are, I >> tried to answer a few questions

[openstack-dev] [Compute][Nova] Mid-cycle meetup details for kilo

2014-10-14 Thread Michael Still
Hi. I am pleased to announce details for the Kilo Compute mid-cycle meetup, but first some background about how we got here. Two companies actively involved in OpenStack came forward with offers to host the Compute meetup. However, one of those companies has gracefully decided to wait until the L

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] add cyclomatic complexity check to pep8 target

2014-10-16 Thread Michael Still
I think nova wins. We have: ./nova/virt/libvirt/driver.py:3736:1: C901 'LibvirtDriver._get_guest_config' is too complex (67) Michael On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Dolph Mathews wrote: > I ran this tool on Keystone and liked the results - the two methods that > ranked D should certainly be re

[openstack-dev] DB Datasets CI broken

2014-10-17 Thread Michael Still
Hi, I've just noticed that the DB Datasets CI (the artist formerly known as turbo hipster) is failing for many patches. I'm looking into it now. Michael -- Rackspace Australia ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://li

Re: [openstack-dev] DB Datasets CI broken

2014-10-17 Thread Michael Still
r your patience everyone. Is it possible to add a verification step to nodepool so that it doesn't mark a new image as ready unless it passes some basic sanity checks? Thanks, Michael On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 8:44 AM, Michael Still wrote: > Hi, > > I've just noticed that the D

Re: [openstack-dev] DB Datasets CI broken

2014-10-17 Thread Michael Still
On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 11:02 AM, Jeremy Stanley wrote: > On 2014-10-18 10:45:23 +1100 (+1100), Michael Still wrote: > [...] >> Is it possible to add a verification step to nodepool so that it >> doesn't mark a new image as ready unless it passes some basic sanity >

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Cells conversation starter

2014-10-21 Thread Michael Still
Thanks for this. It would be interesting to see how much of this work you think is achievable in Kilo. How long do you see this process taking? In line with that, is it just you currently working on this? Would calling for volunteers to help be meaningful? Michael On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 5:00 AM

[openstack-dev] [Nova] Scheduler / Resource Tracker designated core

2014-10-22 Thread Michael Still
Hello. Its clear that the scheduler and resource tracker inside Nova are areas where we need to innovate. There are a lot of proposals in this space at the moment, and it can be hard to tell which ones are being implemented and in which order. I have therefore asked Jay Pipes to act as "designate

Re: [openstack-dev] FreeBSD host support

2014-10-27 Thread Michael Still
On Tuesday, October 21, 2014, Roman Bogorodskiy wrote: > On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 10:19 PM, Joe Gordon > wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 10:04 AM, Roman Bogorodskiy < > rbogorods...@mirantis.com > wrote: > [snip] > >> High level overview of what needs to be done: > >> > >> - Nova > >> *

[openstack-dev] [Nova] No meeting this week

2014-10-29 Thread Michael Still
Hey, this is just a friendly reminder that we're skipping the meeting this week as it is so close to the summit and many are travelling already. We also wont have one the week of the summit for obvious reasons. See you all in Paris! Michael -- Rackspace Australia _

[openstack-dev] [Nova] Summit track scheduling tweak

2014-10-29 Thread Michael Still
Hi, I've just swapped the functional testing and object status sessions in our track. This was done so that the QA team could attend the functional testing session, which originally conflicted with their sessions. Hopefully this doesn't create problems for anyone else, but I figured an announcemen

[openstack-dev] [nova] Do we have a meeting this week?

2014-11-18 Thread Michael Still
Dear Americans... you're not really going to come to a meeting this week are you? There's that thanks giving thing, right? So... Should we cancel for this week? Michael -- Rackspace Australia ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.opensta

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] locked instances and snaphot

2014-06-19 Thread Michael Still
It might be a good idea to add a comment to the RPC layer for the snapshot call explaining why we haven't implemented a lock check. That would reduce future confusion as well. Cheers, Michael On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 5:06 AM, melanie witt wrote: > On Jun 17, 2014, at 13:34, Andrew Laski wrote: >

[openstack-dev] [Nova] Timeline for the rest of the Juno release

2014-06-24 Thread Michael Still
Hi, this came up in the weekly release sync with ttx, and I think its worth documenting as clearly as possible. Here is our proposed timeline for the rest of the Juno release. This is important for people with spec proposals either out for review, or intending to be sent for review soon. (The num

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Timeline for the rest of the Juno release

2014-06-24 Thread Michael Still
t get much feedback > from the cores - but I don't see the harm in letting specs be submitted to > the K directory for early review / feedback during that period ? > > Phil > >> -Original Message- >> From: Michael Still [mailto:mi...@stillhq.com] >

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Timeline for the rest of the Juno release

2014-06-24 Thread Michael Still
e >> >> On 06/24/2014 07:35 AM, Michael Still wrote: >> > Phil -- I really want people to focus their efforts on fixing bugs in >> > that period was the main thing. The theory was if we encouraged people >> > to work on specs for the next release, then they'd be

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] 0 byte image is created with instance snapshot if instance is booted using volume

2014-06-25 Thread Michael Still
This sounds like something which should be reported as a bug. You do that at https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+filebug Cheers, Michael On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 1:43 AM, Agrawal, Ankit wrote: > Hi All, > > > > When I boot an instance from volume and the take snapshot of that instance > it creates a

[openstack-dev] [Nova] Meeting this week?

2014-06-29 Thread Michael Still
Hi. The meeting this week would be on the 3rd of July, which I assume means that many people will be out of the office. Do people think its worth running the meeting or shall we give this week a miss? Thanks, Michael -- Rackspace Australia ___ OpenSta

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Meeting this week?

2014-06-30 Thread Michael Still
Ok, let's skip the meeting this week so people can have a break. Cheers, Michael On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 3:45 AM, melanie witt wrote: > On Jun 29, 2014, at 17:01, Michael Still wrote: > >> Hi. The meeting this week would be on the 3rd of July, which I assume >> means t

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Mid-cycle sprint for remote people ?

2014-07-01 Thread Michael Still
We were talking about doing something with google+ for Chris Yeoh, but haven't really progressed the plan. Does someone want to pick up the ball with that or shall I? Michael On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 11:50 PM, Dugger, Donald D wrote: > At minimum I can arrange for a phone bridge at the sprint (Int

Re: [openstack-dev] [third party] - minimum response time for 3rd party CI responses

2014-07-02 Thread Michael Still
On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 4:33 AM, Luke Gorrie wrote: > > On 30 June 2014 21:04, Kevin Benton wrote: >> >> As a maintainer of a small CI system that tends to get backed up during >> milestone rush hours, it would be nice if we were allowed up to 12 hours. >> However, as a developer this seems like t

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Gantt] Scheduler split status

2014-07-07 Thread Michael Still
I think you'd be better of requesting an exception for your spec than splitting the scheduler immediately. These refactorings need to happen anyways, and if your scheduler work diverges too far from nova then we're going to have a painful time getting things back in sync later. Michael On Mon, Ju

Re: [openstack-dev] [Containers] Nova virt driver requirements

2014-07-07 Thread Michael Still
Joe has a good answer, but you should also be aware of the hypervisor support matrix (https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/HypervisorSupportMatrix), which hopefully comes some way to explaining what we expect of a nova driver. Cheers, Michael On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 9:11 AM, Joe Gordon wrote: > > On J

Re: [openstack-dev] [Containers][Nova] Containers Mid-Cycle Meetup

2014-07-07 Thread Michael Still
Adrian, is there any news on this? I want to start booking my ops meetup travel, but I don't know if I should include this meetup or not. Thanks, Michael On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 8:12 AM, Russell Bryant wrote: > On 07/01/2014 05:59 PM, Adrian Otto wrote: >> Team, >> >> Please help us select dates

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] top gate bug is libvirt snapshot

2014-07-08 Thread Michael Still
The associated bug says this is probably a qemu bug, so I think we should rephrase that to "we need to start thinking about how to make sure upstream changes don't break nova". Michael On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 7:50 AM, Joe Gordon wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 4:12 AM, Daniel P. Berrange > wr

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] top gate bug is libvirt snapshot

2014-07-08 Thread Michael Still
On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 8:21 AM, Sean Dague wrote: > This is also why I find it unlikely to be a qemu bug, because that's not > shared state between guests. If qemu just randomly wedges itself, that > would be detectable much easier outside of the gate. And there have been > attempts by danpb to s

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] top gate bug is libvirt snapshot

2014-07-09 Thread Michael Still
Can we get our gate images tweaked to have more verbose libvirt logging on in general? There's been a few times in the last year or so when we've really needed it. Michael On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 6:01 PM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > On Wed, Jul 09, 2014 at 08:58:02AM +1000, Michae

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] request to tag novaclient 2.18.0

2014-07-10 Thread Michael Still
Sorry for the delay here. This email got lost in my inbox while I was travelling. This release is now tagged. Additionally, I have created a milestone for this release in launchpad, which is the keystone process for client releases. This means that users of launchpad can now see what release a giv

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] request to tag novaclient 2.18.0

2014-07-11 Thread Michael Still
>>> On 11/07/14 02:04, Michael Still wrote: >>>>> Sorry for the delay here. This email got lost in my inbox while I was >>>>> travelling. >>>>> >>>>> This release is now tagged. Additionally, I have created a milestone >>>>>

Re: [openstack-dev] [Containers][Nova] Containers Team Mid-Cycle Meetup to join Nova Meetup

2014-07-11 Thread Michael Still
You should probably add these details to the wiki page for the event at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Sprints/BeavertonJunoSprint Unfortunately my travel is booked already, so I wont be there for the Thursday. Michael On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 8:31 AM, Adrian Otto wrote: > CORRECTION: This even

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][bugs] request to add user hudson-openstack to nova-bugs team

2014-07-14 Thread Michael Still
I can't see a way to add the hudson user to that group, I'm hoping fungi might have come advice there. Michael On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 6:55 AM, melanie witt wrote: > Hi Nova Bug Wranglers, > > There have been some issues where the gerrit hook script is unable to link a > review to a launchpad b

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][bugs] request to add user hudson-openstack to nova-bugs team

2014-07-14 Thread Michael Still
Jeremy helped me with this on IRC, and the hudson bot is now a member of that group. Cheers, Michael On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 9:34 AM, Michael Still wrote: > I can't see a way to add the hudson user to that group, I'm hoping > fungi might have come advice there. > > Mich

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] request to tag novaclient 2.18.0

2014-07-15 Thread Michael Still
Ok, I just released 2.18.1 to address this issue. https://launchpad.net/python-novaclient/+milestone/2.18.1 Cheers, Michael On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 7:18 AM, Michael Still wrote: > I can do another release once https://review.openstack.org/#/c/106447/ merges. > > Michael > > On Sa

[openstack-dev] [Nova] Registration for the mid cycle meetup is now closed

2014-07-15 Thread Michael Still
Hi. We've now hit our room capacity, so I have closed registrations for the nova mid cycle meetup. Please reply to this thread if that's a significant problem for someone. Thanks, Michael -- Rackspace Australia ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStac

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Registration for the mid cycle meetup is now closed

2014-07-15 Thread Michael Still
The containers meetup is in a different room with different space constraints, so containers focussed people should do whatever Adrian is doing for registration. Michael On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 12:53 PM, Eric Windisch wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 6:42 PM, Rick Harris > wrote: >> >> He

[openstack-dev] [Nova] Agenda for the Nova mid cycle meetup

2014-07-16 Thread Michael Still
Hi. I think its time to start getting more organized with an agenda for the mid cycle meetup. When we first announced the meetup we created an etherpad with a list of things we wanted to talk about during the meetup. That list is here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/juno-nova-mid-cycle-meet

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] fair standards for all hypervisor drivers

2014-07-16 Thread Michael Still
On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 3:27 AM, Vishvananda Ishaya wrote: > On Jul 16, 2014, at 8:28 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:> >> On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 08:12:47AM -0700, Clark Boylan wrote: >> >>> I am worried that we would just regress to the current process because >>> we have tried something similar t

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] fair standards for all hypervisor drivers

2014-07-16 Thread Michael Still
Top posting to the original email because I want this to stand out... I've added this to the agenda for the nova mid cycle meetup, I think most of the contributors to this thread will be there. So, if we can nail this down here then that's great, but if we think we'd be more productive in person c

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Registration for the mid cycle meetup is now closed

2014-07-16 Thread Michael Still
On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 12:20 AM, Eric Windisch wrote: > On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 11:55 PM, Michael Still wrote: >> >> The containers meetup is in a different room with different space >> constraints, so containers focussed people should do whatever Adrian >>

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] [nova] Weekly nova-network / neutron parity meeting

2014-07-16 Thread Michael Still
That time is around 1am for me. I'm ok with that as long as someone on the nova side can attend in my place. Michael On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Kyle Mestery wrote: > As we're getting down to the wire in Juno, I'd like to propose we have > a weekly meeting on the nova-network and neutron p

[openstack-dev] [Nova] So you want a spec freeze exception?

2014-07-17 Thread Michael Still
At our weekly nova meeting just now I promised that I'd send an email here explaining our intentions with the spec freeze for juno. The proposed process works like this, but is subject to change: - you request a spec freeze exception on the openstack-dev mailing list. Please do this in the next

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Registration for the mid cycle meetup is now closed

2014-07-17 Thread Michael Still
Those who have replied to this thread are now registered. Michael On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 6:56 AM, Michael Still wrote: > Hi. > > We've now hit our room capacity, so I have closed registrations for > the nova mid cycle meetup. Please reply to this thread if that's a >

Re: [openstack-dev] Virtio-scsi settings nova-specs exception

2014-07-20 Thread Michael Still
I just want to check my understanding -- it seems to me that this depends on a feature that's very new to libvirt (merged there 22 May 2014). Is that right? http://libvirt.org/git/?p=libvirt.git;a=commit;h=d950494129513558a303387e26a2bab057012c5e We've had some concerns about adding features to t

Re: [openstack-dev] Virtio-scsi settings nova-specs exception

2014-07-20 Thread Michael Still
why I cc'ed the main protagonists into my email on this thread. Michael On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 10:55 AM, Mike Perez wrote: > On 10:21 Mon 21 Jul , Michael Still wrote: >> I just want to check my understanding -- it seems to me that this >> depends on a feature that'

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Spec freeze exception] add boot_mode filter for nova.virt.ironic driver

2014-07-22 Thread Michael Still
I think this sounds risky to me... I'd rather we landed _something_ in terms of an ironic driver in juno, rather than adding features to what we have now. In fact, I thought Devananda had frozen the ironic nova driver to make this easier? Michael On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 4:45 PM, Faizan Barmawer

Re: [openstack-dev] Virtio-scsi settings nova-specs exception

2014-07-22 Thread Michael Still
Fair enough. Let's roll with that then. Michael On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 6:33 AM, Sean Dague wrote: > On 07/21/2014 03:35 PM, Dan Smith wrote: >>> We've already approved many other blueprints for Juno that involve features >>> from new libvirt, so I don't think it is credible to reject this or an

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] So you want a spec freeze exception?

2014-07-22 Thread Michael Still
2014 at 8:44 AM, Michael Still wrote: > At our weekly nova meeting just now I promised that I'd send an email > here explaining our intentions with the spec freeze for juno. > > The proposed process works like this, but is subject to change: > > - you request a spec freeze excepti

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Spec freeze exception] Instance tasks

2014-07-22 Thread Michael Still
Ok, this one has two cores, so the exception is approved. The exception is in the form of another week to get the spec merged, so quick iterations are the key. Cheers, Michael On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Kenichi Oomichi wrote: > >> -Original Message- >> From: John Garbutt [mailto:j.

Re: [openstack-dev] Virtio-scsi settings nova-specs exception

2014-07-22 Thread Michael Still
36 PM, Michael Still wrote: > Fair enough. Let's roll with that then. > > Michael > > On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 6:33 AM, Sean Dague wrote: >> On 07/21/2014 03:35 PM, Dan Smith wrote: >>>> We've already approved many other blueprints for Juno that involve featur

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Spec freeze exception] Online Schema Changes

2014-07-22 Thread Michael Still
Ok, this one has two cores, so the exception is approved. The exception is in the form of another week to get the spec merged, so quick iterations are the key. Cheers, Michael On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 2:02 AM, Kevin L. Mitchell wrote: > On Mon, 2014-07-21 at 10:55 +0100, John Garbutt wrote: >> On

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Spec Freeze Exception] [Gantt] Scheduler Isolate DB spec

2014-07-22 Thread Michael Still
This spec freeze exception only has one core signed up. Are there any other cores interested in working with Sylvain on this one? Michael On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 7:59 PM, John Garbutt wrote: > On 18 July 2014 09:10, Sylvain Bauza wrote: >> Hi team, >> >> I would like to put your attention on ht

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Spec freeze exception] Controlled shutdown of GuestOS

2014-07-23 Thread Michael Still
Another core sponsor would be nice on this one. Any takers? Michael On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 4:14 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 06:08:52PM +, Day, Phil wrote: >> Hi Folks, >> >> I'd like to propose the following as an exception to the spec freeze, on the >> basis th

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Spec Freeze Exception] [Gantt] Scheduler Isolate DB spec

2014-07-23 Thread Michael Still
In that case this exception is approved. The exception is in the form of another week to get the spec merged, so quick iterations are the key. Cheers, Michael On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 5:31 PM, Sylvain Bauza wrote: > Le 23/07/2014 01:11, Michael Still a écrit : >> This spec freeze excep

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Spec freeze exception] Controlled shutdown of GuestOS

2014-07-24 Thread Michael Still
p for this if I drop the point of contention - which > I'ev done > > > Yes, I will sponsor this one as well. This is more a bug fix than a feature > IMO and would be really nice to get into Juno. > > > >> -Original Message- >> From: Michael Still [mailt

[openstack-dev] [Nova] Nominating Jay Pipes for nova-core

2014-07-30 Thread Michael Still
Greetings, I would like to nominate Jay Pipes for the nova-core team. Jay has been involved with nova for a long time now. He's previously been a nova core, as well as a glance core (and PTL). He's been around so long that there are probably other types of core status I have missed. Please resp

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Nominating Jay Pipes for nova-core

2014-07-31 Thread Michael Still
On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 9:57 PM, Russell Bryant wrote: > Further, I'd like to propose that we treat all of existing +1 reviews as > +2 (once he's officially added to the team). Does anyone have a problem > with doing that? I think some folks would have done that anyway, but I > wanted to clarif

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Nominating Jay Pipes for nova-core

2014-08-02 Thread Michael Still
Jay has now been added to the nova-core group in gerrit. Cheers, Michael On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 7:02 AM, Michael Still wrote: > Greetings, > > I would like to nominate Jay Pipes for the nova-core team. > > Jay has been involved with nova for a long time now. He's previousl

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Deprecating CONF.block_device_allocate_retries_interval

2014-08-06 Thread Michael Still
Maybe we should change how we wait? I get that we don't want to sit around forever, but perhaps we should specify a total maximum time to wait instead of a number of iterations of a loop? Something like "15 minutes should be long enough for anyone!". Eventlet sleeps are also pretty cheap, so havin

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-06 Thread Michael Still
On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 2:03 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > We seem to be unable to address some key issues in the software we > produce, and part of it is due to strategic contributors (and core > reviewers) being overwhelmed just trying to stay afloat of what's > happening. For such projects, is it

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-06 Thread Michael Still
On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 10:05 AM, Stefano Maffulli wrote: > On Wed 06 Aug 2014 02:10:23 PM PDT, Michael Still wrote: >> - we rate limit the total number of blueprints under code review at >> any one time to a fixed number of "slots". I secretly prefer the term >>

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-07 Thread Michael Still
On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 11:20 PM, Russell Bryant wrote: > On 08/07/2014 09:07 AM, Sean Dague wrote:> I think the difference is > slot selection would just be Nova drivers. I >> think there is an assumption in the old system that everyone in Nova >> core wants to prioritize the blueprints. I think t

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] fair standards for all hypervisor drivers

2014-08-07 Thread Michael Still
It seems to me that the tension here is that there are groups who would really like to use features in newer libvirts that we don't CI on in the gate. Is it naive to think that a possible solution here is to do the following: - revert the libvirt version_cap flag - instead implement a third part

Re: [openstack-dev] Backwards incompatible migration changes - Discussion

2013-09-16 Thread Michael Still
On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 7:51 AM, Dolph Mathews wrote: > ++ Data backups are a solved problem, and no DB admin should trust an > application to perform its own backups. I'm not completely sure I agree. Consider the case where a cloud with active users undertakes an upgrade. The migrations run, an

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Quick review from a core please for simple bug fix

2013-09-16 Thread Michael Still
Done. Cheers, Michael On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 8:21 PM, Day, Phil wrote: > Hi Folks, > > > > Could one more core look at the following simple bug fix please: > https://review.openstack.org/#/c/46486/ - which allows the system clean up > VMs from deleted instances. > > > > > > Its already got one

[openstack-dev] [nova][libvirt] Should file injection work for boot from volume images?

2013-09-20 Thread Michael Still
Before https://review.openstack.org/#/c/46867/ if file injection of a mandatory file fails, nova just silently ignores the failure, which is clearly wrong. However, that review now can't land because its revealed another failure in the file injection code via tempest, which is... Should file injec

Re: [openstack-dev] stalled bug fixes for vmware driver

2013-09-20 Thread Michael Still
On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 6:24 AM, Dan Wendlandt wrote: > On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 1:09 PM, Joe Gordon wrote: >> On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 11:52 AM, Russell Bryant >> wrote: >>> On 09/20/2013 02:02 PM, Dan Wendlandt wrote: > I couldn't agree more. In fact, the VMware team has been working hard to >

Re: [openstack-dev] stalled bug fixes for vmware driver

2013-09-20 Thread Michael Still
On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 7:12 AM, Dan Wendlandt wrote: > On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Michael Still wrote: >> How are you doing this? Joshua Hesketh has been working on integrating >> our internal DB CI tests into upstream zuul, so I wonder there are >> synergies that

Re: [openstack-dev] Current list of confirmed PTL Candidates

2013-09-24 Thread Michael Still
To confirm, we have a little bit over a day left for people to nominate, right? On a personal note, I'm a little sad to see so many single candidate elections. I guess it might indicate a strong consensus, but I worry it encourages group think over time. Michael On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 6:08 AM,

Re: [openstack-dev] [elastic-recheck] Announcing elastic-recheck

2013-09-26 Thread Michael Still
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 2:49 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: > Excerpts from Joe Gordon's message of 2013-09-25 17:56:15 -0700: >> Hi All, >> >> TL;DR: We will be automatically identifying your flaky tempest runs, so you >> just have to confirm that you hit bug x, not identify which bug you hit. > > \o/ I

[openstack-dev] Are you coming to linux.conf.au 2014?

2013-10-02 Thread Michael Still
If you're coming to linux.conf.au 2014, would you be interested in a couple of day meetup for OpenStack developers the week after the conference? I'm trying to judge interest before I try and get it booked. The timing (early January) is nice because its basically mid cycle for Icehouse, so its a n

Re: [openstack-dev] Are you coming to linux.conf.au 2014?

2013-10-02 Thread Michael Still
On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 11:28 AM, Robert Collins wrote: > Sounds great, but please commit to it asap, I nearly bought my tickets > this morning, and modifying them is expensive. *shrug* Its one of those things... I don't want to waste the time of a major openstack deployment if not enough people

[openstack-dev] TC Candidacy

2013-10-06 Thread Michael Still
Greetings! I am currently a member of the TC, and I would like to continue to serve. I'm going to write this email backwards because I am aware it is quite long. I have put what I hope to achieve on the TC at the top, but provide background detail afterwards for those who want to dig deeper. I am

Re: [openstack-dev] Are you coming to linux.conf.au 2014?

2013-10-14 Thread Michael Still
To follow up on this, I've decided to give running a meetup a go. The details are at http://sites.rcbops.com/lca2014_openstack/?p=38 Cheers, Michael On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Michael Still wrote: > If you're coming to linux.conf.au 2014, would you be interested in a &g

Re: [openstack-dev] How does the libvirt domain XML get created?

2013-10-15 Thread Michael Still
On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Clark Laughlin wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I'm trying to figure out how " heads='1'/>" makes it into the libvirt domain XML when creating a new > instance. I see where much of the content of the XML is created by the > libvirt driver under nova/nova/virt/libvir

Re: [openstack-dev] Call for a clear COPYRIGHT-HOLDERS file in all OpenStack projects (and [trove] python-troveclient_0.1.4-1_amd64.changes REJECTED)

2013-10-19 Thread Michael Still
On Sat, Oct 19, 2013 at 7:52 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: > I suggest that we just put Copyright headers back in the source files. > That will make Debian's licensecheck work fairly automatically. A single > file that tries to do exactly what debian/copyright would do seems a bit > odd. The problem he

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] VMWare Mine Sweeper, Congrats!

2013-10-21 Thread Michael Still
This is super cool. Thanks! One piece of feedback -- would it be possible to get the results as something other than a tarball? Downloading the entire tarball to read one log is slightly annoying. Thanks, Michael On Sat, Oct 19, 2013 at 9:29 AM, Sreeram Yerrapragada wrote: > We had some infrast

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] EC2 Compatibility metadata on config drive, fixed IP info

2013-10-22 Thread Michael Still
On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 6:48 AM, Mate Lakat wrote: > Hi, > > We are looking at config drive use cases, and saw this in the official > docs: > > Do not rely on the presence of the EC2 metadata present in the config > drive (i.e., files under the ec2 directory), as this content may be > remove

[openstack-dev] Does DB schema hygiene warrant long migrations?

2013-10-24 Thread Michael Still
Hi. Because I am a grumpy old man I have just -2'ed https://review.openstack.org/#/c/39685/ and I wanted to explain my rationale. Mostly I am hoping for a consensus to form -- if I am wrong then I'll happy remove my vote from this patch. This patch does the reasonably sensible thing of converting

Re: [openstack-dev] Does DB schema hygiene warrant long migrations?

2013-10-24 Thread Michael Still
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 8:19 AM, Johannes Erdfelt wrote: > On Fri, Oct 25, 2013, Michael Still wrote: >> However, when I run it with medium sized (30 million instances) >> databases, the change does cause a 10 minute downtime. I don't >> personally think the change is

Re: [openstack-dev] Does DB schema hygiene warrant long migrations?

2013-10-24 Thread Michael Still
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 9:07 AM, Boris Pavlovic wrote: > Johannes, > > +1, purging should help here a lot. Sure, but my point is more: - pruning isn't done by the system automatically, so we have to assume it never happens - we need to have a clearer consensus about what we think the maximum

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] Some initial code copying for db/migration

2013-11-01 Thread Michael Still
On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 3:30 AM, Russell Bryant wrote: > I also would not use migrate. sqlalchemy-migrate is a dead upstream and > we (OpenStack) have had to inherit it. For new projects, you should use > alembic. That's actively developed and maintained. Other OpenStack > projects are either

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