Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][heat] a small experiment with Ansible in TripleO

2014-08-11 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Steve Baker's message of 2014-08-10 15:33:26 -0700: > On 02/08/14 04:07, Allison Randal wrote: > > A few of us have been independently experimenting with Ansible as a > > backend for TripleO, and have just decided to try experimenting > > together. I've chatted with Robert, and he say

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][heat] a small experiment with Ansible in TripleO

2014-08-11 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2014-08-11 08:16:56 -0700: > On 11/08/14 10:46, Clint Byrum wrote: > > Right now we're stuck with an update that just doesn't work. It isn't > > just about update-failure-recovery, which is coming along nicely, but > >

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][heat] a small experiment with Ansible in TripleO

2014-08-11 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Steven Hardy's message of 2014-08-11 11:40:07 -0700: > On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 11:20:50AM -0700, Clint Byrum wrote: > > Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2014-08-11 08:16:56 -0700: > > > On 11/08/14 10:46, Clint Byrum wrote: > > > > Right

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][heat] a small experiment with Ansible in TripleO

2014-08-11 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2014-08-11 13:35:44 -0700: > On 11/08/14 14:49, Clint Byrum wrote: > > Excerpts from Steven Hardy's message of 2014-08-11 11:40:07 -0700: > >> On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 11:20:50AM -0700, Clint Byrum wrote: > >>> Excerpts

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-13 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Thierry Carrez's message of 2014-08-13 02:54:58 -0700: > Rochelle.RochelleGrober wrote: > > [...] > > So, with all that prologue, here is what I propose (and please consider > > proposing your improvements/changes to it). I would like to see for Kilo: > > > > - IRC meetings and mai

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] fix poor tarball support in source-repositories

2014-08-15 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Brownell, Jonathan C (Corvallis)'s message of 2014-08-15 08:11:18 -0700: > The current DIB element support for downloading tarballs via > "source-repository" allows an entry in the following form: > > tar > > Today, this feature is currently used only by the mysql DIB element.

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] fix poor tarball support in source-repositories

2014-08-16 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Jyoti Ranjan's message of 2014-08-16 00:57:52 -0700: > We will have to be little bit cautious in using glob because of its > inherent usage pattern. For e.g. the file starting with . will not get > matched. > That is a separate bug, but I think the answer to that is to use rsync ins

Re: [openstack-dev] Time to Samba! :-)

2014-08-16 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Martinx - ジェームズ's message of 2014-08-16 12:03:20 -0700: > Hey Stackers, > > I'm wondering here... Samba4 is pretty solid (up coming 4.2 rocks), I'm > using it on a daily basis as an AD DC controller, for both Windows and > Linux Instances! With replication, file system ACLs - cifs,

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-17 Thread Clint Byrum
Here's why folk are questioning Ceilometer: Nova is a set of tools to abstract virtualization implementations. Neutron is a set of tools to abstract SDN/NFV implementations. Cinder is a set of tools to abstract block-device implementations. Trove is a set of tools to simplify consumption of existi

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-20 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Robert Collins's message of 2014-08-18 23:41:20 -0700: > On 18 August 2014 09:32, Clint Byrum wrote: > > I can see your perspective but I don't think its internally consistent... > > > Here's why folk are questioning Ceilometer: > >

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-20 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Jay Pipes's message of 2014-08-20 14:53:22 -0700: > On 08/20/2014 05:06 PM, Chris Friesen wrote: > > On 08/20/2014 07:21 AM, Jay Pipes wrote: > >> Hi Thierry, thanks for the reply. Comments inline. :) > >> > >> On 08/20/2014 06:32 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > >>> If we want to follow y

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-21 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Duncan Thomas's message of 2014-08-21 09:21:06 -0700: > On 21 August 2014 14:27, Jay Pipes wrote: > > > Specifically for Triple-O, by making the Deployment program == Triple-O, the > > TC has picked the disk-image-based deployment of an undercloud design as The > > OpenStack Way of

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-21 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from David Kranz's message of 2014-08-21 12:45:05 -0700: > On 08/21/2014 02:39 PM, gordon chung wrote: > > > The point I've been making is > > > that by the TC continuing to bless only the Ceilometer project as the > > > OpenStack Way of Metering, I think we do a disservice to our users by

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance][Heat] Murano split dsicussion

2014-08-21 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Georgy Okrokvertskhov's message of 2014-08-20 13:14:28 -0700: > During last Atlanta summit there were couple discussions about Application > Catalog and Application space projects in OpenStack. These cross-project > discussions occurred as a result of Murano incubation request [1] dur

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance][Heat] Murano split dsicussion

2014-08-21 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Angus Salkeld's message of 2014-08-21 20:14:12 -0700: > On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 12:34 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: > > > Excerpts from Georgy Okrokvertskhov's message of 2014-08-20 13:14:28 -0700: > > > During last Atlanta summit there were couple di

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-22 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Michael Chapman's message of 2014-08-21 23:30:44 -0700: > On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 2:57 AM, Jay Pipes wrote: > > > On 08/19/2014 11:28 PM, Robert Collins wrote: > > > >> On 20 August 2014 02:37, Jay Pipes wrote: > >> ... > >> > >> I'd like to see more unification of implementations

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-22 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Sean Dague's message of 2014-08-22 04:51:49 -0700: > On 08/22/2014 01:30 AM, Michael Chapman wrote: > > > > > > > > On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 2:57 AM, Jay Pipes > > wrote: > > > > On 08/19/2014 11:28 PM, Robert Collins wrote: > > > > On 20 Au

[openstack-dev] [Ironic] [TripleO] How to gracefully quiesce a box?

2014-08-22 Thread Clint Byrum
It has been brought to my attention that Ironic uses the biggest hammer in the IPMI toolbox to control chassis power: https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/ironic/tree/ironic/drivers/modules/ipminative.py#n142 Which is ret = ipmicmd.set_power('off', wait) This is the most abrupt form, wh

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] [TripleO] How to gracefully quiesce a box?

2014-08-22 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Jay Pipes's message of 2014-08-22 11:16:05 -0700: > On 08/22/2014 01:48 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: > > It has been brought to my attention that Ironic uses the biggest hammer > > in the IPMI toolbox to control chassis power: > > > > https://git.openstac

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone][Marconi][Heat] Creating accounts in Keystone

2014-08-22 Thread Clint Byrum
I don't know how Zaqar does its magic, but I'd love to see simple signed URLs rather than users/passwords. This would work for Heat as well. That way we only have to pass in a single predictably formatted string. Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2014-08-22 14:35:38 -0700: > Here's an interes

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [ptls] The Czar system, or how to scale PTLs

2014-08-23 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Dolph Mathews's message of 2014-08-22 09:45:37 -0700: > On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Zane Bitter wrote: > > > On 22/08/14 11:19, Thierry Carrez wrote: > > > >> Zane Bitter wrote: > >> > >>> On 22/08/14 08:33, Thierry Carrez wrote: > >>> > We also > still need someone

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] "heat.conf.sample is not up to date"

2014-08-24 Thread Clint Byrum
Guessing this is due to the new tox feature which randomizes python's hash seed. Excerpts from Mike Spreitzer's message of 2014-08-24 00:10:42 -0700: > What is going on with this? If I do a fresh clone of heat and run `tox > -epep8` then I get that complaint. If I then run the recommended comma

Re: [openstack-dev] [qa][all][Heat] Packaging of functional tests

2014-08-26 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Steve Baker's message of 2014-08-26 14:25:46 -0700: > On 27/08/14 03:18, David Kranz wrote: > > On 08/26/2014 10:14 AM, Zane Bitter wrote: > >> Steve Baker has started the process of moving Heat tests out of the > >> Tempest repository and into the Heat repository, and we're looking >

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Heat Juno Mid-cycle Meetup report

2014-08-27 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2014-08-27 08:41:29 -0700: > On 27/08/14 11:04, Steven Hardy wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 07:54:41PM +0530, Jyoti Ranjan wrote: > >> I am little bit skeptical about using Swift for this use case because > >> of > >> its eventual consistency issu

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Heat Juno Mid-cycle Meetup report

2014-08-27 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Steven Hardy's message of 2014-08-27 10:08:36 -0700: > On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 09:40:31AM -0700, Clint Byrum wrote: > > Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2014-08-27 08:41:29 -0700: > > > On 27/08/14 11:04, Steven Hardy wrote: > > > >

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Design Summit reloaded

2014-08-27 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Thierry Carrez's message of 2014-08-27 05:51:55 -0700: > Hi everyone, > > I've been thinking about what changes we can bring to the Design Summit > format to make it more productive. I've heard the feedback from the > mid-cycle meetups and would like to apply some of those ideas for

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Design Summit reloaded

2014-08-27 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Sean Dague's message of 2014-08-27 06:26:38 -0700: > On 08/27/2014 08:51 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > > > I've been thinking about what changes we can bring to the Design Summit > > format to make it more productive. I've heard the feedback from the > > mid-cycle me

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Design Summit reloaded

2014-08-27 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Anita Kuno's message of 2014-08-27 13:48:25 -0700: > On 08/27/2014 02:46 PM, John Griffith wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 9:25 AM, Flavio Percoco wrote: > > > >> On 08/27/2014 03:26 PM, Sean Dague wrote: > >>> On 08/27/2014 08:51 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > Hi everyone, > >

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone][Marconi][Heat] Creating accounts in Keystone

2014-08-27 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Adam Young's message of 2014-08-24 20:17:34 -0700: > On 08/23/2014 02:01 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: > > I don't know how Zaqar does its magic, but I'd love to see simple signed > > URLs rather than users/passwords. This would work for Heat as well. That >

Re: [openstack-dev] [Spam] Re: [Openstack][TripleO] [Ironic] What if undercloud machines down, can we reboot overcloud machines?

2014-08-28 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Jyoti Ranjan's message of 2014-08-27 21:20:19 -0700: > I do agree but it create an extra requirement for Undercloud if we high > availability is important criteria. Because of this, undercloud has to be > there 24x7, 365 days and to make it available we need to have HA for this > also

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Heat AWS WaitCondition's count

2014-08-29 Thread Clint Byrum
There are still a few lingering wait conditions. They should probably be cleaned up from tripleo-heat-templates. Excerpts from Pavlo Shchelokovskyy's message of 2014-08-28 02:26:16 -0700: > Hi all, > > the AWS::CloudFormation::WaitCondition resource in Heat allows to update > the 'count' property

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting

2014-09-04 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Flavio Percoco's message of 2014-09-04 00:08:47 -0700: > Greetings, > > Last Tuesday the TC held the first graduation review for Zaqar. During > the meeting some concerns arose. I've listed those concerns below with > some comments hoping that it will help starting a discussion befor

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting

2014-09-04 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Flavio Percoco's message of 2014-09-04 06:01:45 -0700: > On 09/04/2014 02:14 PM, Sean Dague wrote: > > On 09/04/2014 03:08 AM, Flavio Percoco wrote: > >> Greetings, > >> > >> Last Tuesday the TC held the first graduation review for Zaqar. During > >> the meeting some concerns arose. I

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting

2014-09-04 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Flavio Percoco's message of 2014-09-04 02:11:15 -0700: > Hey Clint, > > Thanks for reading, some comments in-line: > > On 09/04/2014 10:30 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: > > Excerpts from Flavio Percoco's message of 2014-09-04 00:08:47 -0700: > >

Re: [openstack-dev] memory usage in devstack-gate (the oom-killer strikes again)

2014-09-08 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Joe Gordon's message of 2014-09-08 15:24:29 -0700: > Hi All, > > We have recently started seeing assorted memory issues in the gate > including the oom-killer [0] and libvirt throwing memory errors [1]. > Luckily we run ps and dstat on every devstack run so we have some insight > int

Re: [openstack-dev] [All] Maintenance mode in OpenStack during patching/upgrades

2014-09-09 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Mike Scherbakov's message of 2014-09-09 00:35:09 -0700: > Hi all, > please see below original email below from Dmitry. I've modified the > subject to bring larger audience to the issue. > > I'd like to split the issue into two parts: > >1. Maintenance mode for OpenStack controll

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting

2014-09-09 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Samuel Merritt's message of 2014-09-09 16:12:09 -0700: > On 9/9/14, 12:03 PM, Monty Taylor wrote: > > On 09/04/2014 01:30 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: > >> Excerpts from Flavio Percoco's message of 2014-09-04 00:08:47 -0700: > >>> Greetings, > &

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting

2014-09-09 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Devananda van der Veen's message of 2014-09-09 16:47:27 -0700: > On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 4:12 PM, Samuel Merritt wrote: > > On 9/9/14, 12:03 PM, Monty Taylor wrote: > [snip] > >> So which is it? Because it sounds like to me it's a thing that actually > >> does NOT need to diverge in t

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting

2014-09-09 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Samuel Merritt's message of 2014-09-09 19:04:58 -0700: > On 9/9/14, 4:47 PM, Devananda van der Veen wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 4:12 PM, Samuel Merritt wrote: > >> On 9/9/14, 12:03 PM, Monty Taylor wrote: > > [snip] > >>> So which is it? Because it sounds like to me it's a thin

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] convergence flow diagrams

2014-09-09 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Angus Salkeld's message of 2014-09-08 17:15:04 -0700: > On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 11:22 PM, Tyagi, Ishant wrote: > > > Hi All, > > > > > > > > As per the heat mid cycle meetup whiteboard, we have created the > > flowchart and sequence diagram for the convergence . Can you please revie

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar graduation (round 2) [was: Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting]

2014-09-10 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Gordon Sim's message of 2014-09-10 06:18:52 -0700: > On 09/10/2014 09:58 AM, Flavio Percoco wrote: > > To clarify the doubts of what Zaqar is or it's not, let me quote what's > > written in the project's overview section[0]: > > > > "Zaqar is a multi-tenant cloud messaging service

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar graduation (round 2) [was: Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting]

2014-09-11 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Flavio Percoco's message of 2014-09-11 04:14:30 -0700: > On 09/10/2014 03:45 PM, Gordon Sim wrote: > > On 09/10/2014 01:51 PM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > >> I think we do need, as Samuel puts it, "some sort of durable > >> message-broker/queue-server thing". It's a basic application buil

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting

2014-09-11 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2014-09-11 15:21:26 -0700: > On 09/09/14 19:56, Clint Byrum wrote: > > Excerpts from Samuel Merritt's message of 2014-09-09 16:12:09 -0700: > >> On 9/9/14, 12:03 PM, Monty Taylor wrote: > >>> On 09/04/2014 01:30 AM,

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar graduation (round 2) [was: Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting]

2014-09-12 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Thierry Carrez's message of 2014-09-12 02:16:42 -0700: > Clint Byrum wrote: > > Excerpts from Flavio Percoco's message of 2014-09-11 04:14:30 -0700: > >> Is Zaqar being optimized as a *queuing* service? I'd say no. Our goal is > >> to

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar graduation (round 2) [was: Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting]

2014-09-12 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Mark McLoughlin's message of 2014-09-12 03:27:42 -0700: > On Wed, 2014-09-10 at 14:51 +0200, Thierry Carrez wrote: > > Flavio Percoco wrote: > > > [...] > > > Based on the feedback from the meeting[3], the current main concern is: > > > > > > - Do we need a messaging service with a f

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting

2014-09-12 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Flavio Percoco's message of 2014-09-12 00:22:35 -0700: > On 09/12/2014 03:29 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: > > Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2014-09-11 15:21:26 -0700: > >> On 09/09/14 19:56, Clint Byrum wrote: > >>> Excerpts from Samuel

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Defining what is a SupportStatus version

2014-09-14 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Gauvain Pocentek's message of 2014-09-04 22:29:05 -0700: > Hi, > > A bit of background: I'm working on the publication of the HOT > resources reference on docs.openstack.org. This book is mostly > autogenerated from the heat source code, using the sphinx XML output. To > avoid pub

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo][heat][ironic] Heat Ironic resources and "ready state" orchestration

2014-09-15 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Steven Hardy's message of 2014-09-15 04:44:24 -0700: > All, > > Starting this thread as a follow-up to a strongly negative reaction by the > Ironic PTL to my patches[1] adding initial Heat->Ironic integration, and > subsequent very detailed justification and discussion of why they ma

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo][heat][ironic] Heat Ironic resources and "ready state" orchestration

2014-09-15 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from James Slagle's message of 2014-09-15 08:15:21 -0700: > On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 7:44 AM, Steven Hardy wrote: > > All, > > > > Starting this thread as a follow-up to a strongly negative reaction by the > > Ironic PTL to my patches[1] adding initial Heat->Ironic integration, and > > sub

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar graduation (round 2) [was: Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting]

2014-09-15 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Flavio Percoco's message of 2014-09-15 00:57:05 -0700: > On 09/12/2014 07:13 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: > > Excerpts from Thierry Carrez's message of 2014-09-12 02:16:42 -0700: > >> Clint Byrum wrote: > >>> Excerpts from Flavio Percoco's me

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo][heat][ironic] Heat Ironic resources and "ready state" orchestration

2014-09-15 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Steven Hardy's message of 2014-09-15 10:10:05 -0700: > On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 09:50:24AM -0700, Clint Byrum wrote: > > Excerpts from Steven Hardy's message of 2014-09-15 04:44:24 -0700: > > > All, > > > > > > Starting this thread as

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar graduation (round 2) [was: Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting]

2014-09-15 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2014-09-15 12:05:09 -0700: > On 15/09/14 13:28, Clint Byrum wrote: > > Excerpts from Flavio Percoco's message of 2014-09-15 00:57:05 -0700: > >> On 09/12/2014 07:13 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: > >>> Excerpts from Thierry

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Defining what is a SupportStatus version

2014-09-15 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2014-09-15 09:31:33 -0700: > On 14/09/14 11:09, Clint Byrum wrote: > > Excerpts from Gauvain Pocentek's message of 2014-09-04 22:29:05 -0700: > >> Hi, > >> > >> A bit of background: I'm working on the

Re: [openstack-dev] [glance][all] Help with interpreting the log level guidelines

2014-09-15 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Sean Dague's message of 2014-09-15 16:02:04 -0700: > On 09/15/2014 07:00 PM, Mark Washenberger wrote: > > Hi there logging experts, > > > > We've recently had a little disagreement in the glance team about the > > appropriate log levels for http requests that end up failing due to us

Re: [openstack-dev] Please do *NOT* use "vendorized" versions of anything (here: glanceclient using requests.packages.urllib3)

2014-09-17 Thread Clint Byrum
This is where Debian's "one urllib3 to rule them all" model fails in a modern fast paced world. Debian is arguably doing the right thing by pushing everyone to use one API, and one library, so that when that one library is found to be vulnerable to security problems, one update covers everyone. Als

Re: [openstack-dev] Please do *NOT* use "vendorized" versions of anything (here: glanceclient using requests.packages.urllib3)

2014-09-17 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Davanum Srinivas's message of 2014-09-17 10:15:29 -0700: > I was trying request-ifying oslo.vmware and ran into this as well: > https://review.openstack.org/#/c/121956/ > > And we don't seem to have urllib3 in global-requirements either. > Should we do that first? Honestly, after re

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][nova] VM restarting on host failure in convergence

2014-09-17 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Jastrzebski, Michal's message of 2014-09-17 06:03:06 -0700: > All, > > Currently OpenStack does not have a built-in HA mechanism for tenant > instances which could restore virtual machines in case of a host > failure. Openstack assumes every app is designed for failure and can > hand

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] Adding hp1 back running tripleo CI

2014-09-17 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Derek Higgins's message of 2014-09-17 06:53:25 -0700: > On 15/09/14 22:37, Gregory Haynes wrote: > > This is a total shot in the dark, but a couple of us ran into issues > > with the Ubuntu Trusty kernel (I know I hit it on HP hardware) that was > > causing severely degraded performan

Re: [openstack-dev] Please do *NOT* use "vendorized" versions of anything (here: glanceclient using requests.packages.urllib3)

2014-09-17 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Ian Cordasco's message of 2014-09-17 12:42:57 -0700: > On 9/17/14, 1:46 PM, "Clint Byrum" wrote: > > >Excerpts from Davanum Srinivas's message of 2014-09-17 10:15:29 -0700: > >> I was trying request-ifying oslo.vmware and ran into this as we

Re: [openstack-dev] Please do *NOT* use "vendorized" versions of anything (here: glanceclient using requests.packages.urllib3)

2014-09-18 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Donald Stufft's message of 2014-09-18 04:58:06 -0700: > > > On Sep 18, 2014, at 7:54 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote: > > > >> > >> Linux distributions are not the end be all of distribution models and > >> they don’t get to dictate to upstream. > > > > Well, distributions is where the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar and SQS Properties of Distributed Queues

2014-09-18 Thread Clint Byrum
Great job highlighting what our friends over at Amazon are doing. It's clear from these snippets, and a few other pieces of documentation for SQS I've read, that the Amazon team approached SQS from a _massive_ scaling perspective. I think what may be forcing a lot of this frustration with Zaqar is

Re: [openstack-dev] Please do *NOT* use "vendorized" versions of anything (here: glanceclient using requests.packages.urllib3)

2014-09-18 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Donald Stufft's message of 2014-09-18 07:30:27 -0700: > > > On Sep 18, 2014, at 10:18 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: > > > > Excerpts from Donald Stufft's message of 2014-09-18 04:58:06 -0700: > >> > >>> On Sep 18, 2014, at 7:54 AM

Re: [openstack-dev] Please do *NOT* use "vendorized" versions of anything (here: glanceclient using requests.packages.urllib3)

2014-09-18 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Ian Cordasco's message of 2014-09-18 07:35:10 -0700: > On 9/18/14, 9:18 AM, "Clint Byrum" wrote: > > >Excerpts from Donald Stufft's message of 2014-09-18 04:58:06 -0700: > >> > >> > On Sep 18, 2014, at 7:54 AM, Thomas Goirand

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Expand resource name allowed characters

2014-09-18 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Christopher Yeoh's message of 2014-09-18 16:57:12 -0700: > On Thu, 18 Sep 2014 12:12:28 -0400 > Sean Dague wrote: > > > When we can return the json-schema to user in the future, can we say > > > that means API accepting utf8 or utf8mb4 is discoverable? If it is > > > discoverable, th

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Continue discussing multi-region orchestration

2013-11-19 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2013-11-15 12:41:53 -0800: > Good news, everyone! I have created the missing whiteboard diagram that > we all needed at the design summit: > > https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Heat/Blueprints/Multi_Region_Support_for_Heat/The_Missing_Diagram > > I've documen

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Does Nova really need an SQL database?

2013-11-19 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Chris Friesen's message of 2013-11-19 09:29:00 -0800: > On 11/18/2013 06:47 PM, Joshua Harlow wrote: > > An idea related to this, what would need to be done to make the DB have > > the exact state that a compute node is going through (and therefore the > > scheduler would not make unr

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Does Nova really need an SQL database?

2013-11-19 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Chris Friesen's message of 2013-11-19 11:37:02 -0800: > On 11/19/2013 12:35 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: > > > Each scheduler process can own a different set of resources. If they > > each grab instance requests in a round-robin fashion, then they will > >

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT software configuration refined after design summit discussions

2013-11-19 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Steve Baker's message of 2013-11-18 12:52:04 -0800: > > Regarding apply_config/remove_config, if a SoftwareApplier resource is > deleted it should trigger any remove_config and wait for the server to > acknowledge when that is complete. This allows for any > evacuation/deregistering

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT software configuration refined after design summit discussions

2013-11-19 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Steve Baker's message of 2013-11-19 13:06:21 -0800: > On 11/20/2013 09:50 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: > > Excerpts from Steve Baker's message of 2013-11-18 12:52:04 -0800: > >> Regarding apply_config/remove_config, if a SoftwareApplier resource is > &

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Does Nova really need an SQL database?

2013-11-19 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Chris Friesen's message of 2013-11-19 12:18:16 -0800: > On 11/19/2013 01:51 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: > > Excerpts from Chris Friesen's message of 2013-11-19 11:37:02 -0800: > >> On 11/19/2013 12:35 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: > >> > >>>

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] New API requirements, review of GCE

2013-11-19 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Robert Collins's message of 2013-11-19 16:22:41 -0800: > On 20 November 2013 13:00, Sean Dague wrote: > >> As long as the metadataservice doesn't move out :) - that one I think > >> is pretty core and we have no native replacement [configdrive is not a > >> replacement :P]. > > > > >

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT software configuration refined after design summit discussions

2013-11-20 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Thomas Spatzier's message of 2013-11-19 23:35:40 -0800: > Excerpts from Steve Baker's message on 19.11.2013 21:40:54: > > From: Steve Baker > > To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org, > > Date: 19.11.2013 21:43 > > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT software configuration > > ref

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT software configuration refined after design summit discussions

2013-11-20 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Mike Spreitzer's message of 2013-11-20 13:46:25 -0800: > Clint Byrum wrote on 11/19/2013 04:28:31 PM: > > From: Clint Byrum > > To: openstack-dev , > > Date: 11/19/2013 04:30 PM > > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT software configuration

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Continue discussing multi-region orchestration

2013-11-20 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Mike Spreitzer's message of 2013-11-20 11:09:34 -0800: > OTOH, the more we restrict what can be done, the less useful this really > is. I would be more specific and say it as "...the less divergent behavior is actually possible." It will be quite a bit more useful if it is boring a

Re: [openstack-dev] How to stage client major releases in Gerrit?

2013-11-20 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Mark Washenberger's message of 2013-11-20 10:14:42 -0800: > Hi folks, > > The project python-glanceclient is getting close to needing a major release > in order to finally remove some long-deprecated features, and to make some > minor adjustments that are technically backwards-incomp

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone][py3] Usage of httpretty

2013-11-20 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Chuck Short's message of 2013-11-20 19:21:14 -0800: > Hi, > > So maybe if it gets to the point where it gets too be much of a porblem we > should just put it on stackforge. > That should be the last resort, when upstream is deemed dead. I'm guessing upstream would not like to fade

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT software configuration refined after design summit discussions

2013-11-20 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Mike Spreitzer's message of 2013-11-20 15:16:45 -0800: > Clint Byrum wrote on 11/20/2013 05:41:16 PM: > > > Autoscaling doesn't really fly with stateful services IMO. > > I presume you're concerned about the "auto" part, not the "

Re: [openstack-dev] Propose "project story wiki" idea

2013-11-20 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Boris Pavlovic's message of 2013-11-19 21:33:08 -0800: > Hi stackers, > > > Currently what I see is growing amount of interesting projects, that at > least I would like to track. But reading all mailing lists, and reviewing > all patches in all interesting projects to get high level

Re: [openstack-dev] Propose "project story wiki" idea

2013-11-21 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Boris Pavlovic's message of 2013-11-21 00:16:04 -0800: > Clint, > > The main idea is to have processed by human history of project. > > It is really impossible to aggregate automatically all data from different > sources: > IRC (main project chat/dev chat/meetings), Mailing Lists, C

Re: [openstack-dev] Introducing the new OpenStack service for Containers

2013-11-22 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Thierry Carrez's message of 2013-11-22 01:50:39 -0800: > Tim Bell wrote: > > Can we make sure that the costs for the end users are also considered as > > part of this ? > > > > - Configuration management will need further modules > > - Dashboard confusion as we get

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] Working group on language packs

2013-11-22 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Clayton Coleman's message of 2013-11-22 21:43:40 -0800: > > > On Nov 22, 2013, at 9:54 PM, Monty Taylor wrote: > > > > > > > >> On 11/22/2013 11:34 AM, Clayton Coleman wrote: > >> I have updated the language pack (name subject to change) blueprint > >> with the outcomes from the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] git-Integration working group

2013-11-24 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Adrian Otto's message of 2013-11-22 18:51:16 -0800: > Monty, > > On Nov 22, 2013, at 6:24 PM, Monty Taylor > wrote: > > > On 11/22/2013 05:37 PM, Krishna Raman wrote: > >> Hello all, > >> > >> I would like to kickoff the Git integration discussion. Goal of this > >> subgroup is t

Re: [openstack-dev] Unwedging the gate

2013-11-25 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Joe Gordon's message of 2013-11-24 21:00:58 -0800: > Hi All, > > TL;DR Last week the gate got wedged on nondeterministic failures. Unwedging > the gate required drastic actions to fix bugs. > > (great write-up, thank you for the details, and thank you for fixing it!) > > Now th

Re: [openstack-dev] Unwedging the gate

2013-11-25 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Robert Collins's message of 2013-11-25 01:30:11 -0800: > On 25 November 2013 22:23, Clint Byrum wrote: > > > I do wonder if we would be able to commit enough resources to just run > > two copies of the gate in parallel each time and require both to pass. >

Re: [openstack-dev] Unwedging the gate

2013-11-25 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Monty Taylor's message of 2013-11-25 06:52:02 -0800: > > On 11/25/2013 04:23 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: > > Excerpts from Joe Gordon's message of 2013-11-24 21:00:58 -0800: > >> Hi All, > >> > >> TL;DR Last week the gate got wedged on n

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements & roadmap

2013-11-25 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Tim Schnell's message of 2013-11-25 14:51:39 -0800: > Hi Steve, > > As one of the UI developers driving the requirements behind these new > blueprints I wanted to take a moment to assure you and the rest of the > Openstack community that the primary purpose of pushing these requireme

Re: [openstack-dev] [all project] Treating recently seen recheck bugs as critical across the board

2013-11-26 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Thierry Carrez's message of 2013-11-26 03:23:51 -0800: > Dolph Mathews wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 8:12 PM, Robert Collins > > mailto:robe...@robertcollins.net>> wrote: > > > > So my proposal is that we make it part of the base hygiene for a > > project that any rechec

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements & roadmap

2013-11-26 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Tim Schnell's message of 2013-11-26 13:24:22 -0800: > So the originally question that I attempted to pose was, "Can we add a > schema-less metadata section to the template that can be used for a > variety of purposes?". It looks like the answer is no, we need to discuss > the features

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements & roadmap

2013-11-26 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Ladislav Smola's message of 2013-11-26 06:04:12 -0800: > Hello, > > seems too big to do the inline comments, so just a few notes here: > > If we truly want to have Templates portable, it would mean to have the > 'metadata' somehow standardised, right? Can you point to another port

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements & roadmap

2013-11-27 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2013-11-27 08:09:33 -0800: > In the longer term, there seems to be a lot of demand for some sort of > template catalog service, like Glance for templates. (I disagree with > Clint that it should actually _be_ Glance the project as we know it, for > the reas

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements & roadmap

2013-11-27 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Tim Schnell's message of 2013-11-27 09:16:24 -0800: > > On 11/27/13 10:09 AM, "Zane Bitter" wrote: > > >On 26/11/13 22:24, Tim Schnell wrote: > >> I propose adding an additional field to the parameter definition: > >> > >> Parameters: > >> : > >> descri

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements & roadmap

2013-11-27 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Fox, Kevin M's message of 2013-11-27 08:58:16 -0800: > This use case is sort of a providence case. Where did the stack come from so > I can find out more about it. > This exhibits similar problems to our Copyright header problems. Relying on authors to maintain their authorship inf

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements & roadmap

2013-11-27 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Jay Pipes's message of 2013-11-27 10:57:56 -0800: > On 11/27/2013 01:28 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: > >> I propose adding an additional field to the parameter definition: > >> > >> Parameters: > >> : > >>

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone][Oslo] Future of Key Distribution Server, Trusted Messaging

2013-11-30 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Adam Young's message of 2013-11-25 20:25:50 -0800: > Back in the Day, Barbican was just one Service of Cloud Keep. While I > would say that KDS belongs in the Cloud Keep, it is not the same as, and > should not be deployed with Barbican. Is it possible to keep them as > separate

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][hadoop][template] Does anyone has a hadoop template

2013-11-30 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Jay Lau's message of 2013-11-28 16:48:41 -0800: > Hi, > > I'm now trying to deploy a hadoop cluster with heat, just wondering if > someone who has a heat template which can help me do the work. Hi Jay, this is off topic for the openstack-dev mailing list. Please re-post your questi

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] DHCP Agent Reliability

2013-12-03 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Maru Newby's message of 2013-12-03 08:08:09 -0800: > I've been investigating a bug that is preventing VM's from receiving IP > addresses when a Neutron service is under high load: > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1192381 > > High load causes the DHCP agent's status updat

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] DHCP Agent Reliability

2013-12-03 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Maru Newby's message of 2013-12-03 19:37:19 -0800: > > On Dec 4, 2013, at 11:57 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: > > > Excerpts from Maru Newby's message of 2013-12-03 08:08:09 -0800: > >> I've been investigating a bug that is preventing VM's from

Re: [openstack-dev] creating a default for oslo config variables within a project?

2013-12-03 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Sean Dague's message of 2013-12-03 16:05:47 -0800: > On 12/03/2013 06:13 PM, Ben Nemec wrote: > > On 2013-12-03 17:09, Sean Dague wrote: > >> On 12/03/2013 05:50 PM, Mark McLoughlin wrote: > >>> On Tue, 2013-12-03 at 16:23 -0600, Ben Nemec wrote: > On 2013-12-03 15:56, Sean Dague

Re: [openstack-dev] creating a default for oslo config variables within a project?

2013-12-04 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Sean Dague's message of 2013-12-04 10:51:16 -0800: > On 12/04/2013 11:56 AM, Ben Nemec wrote: > > On 2013-12-04 06:07, Sean Dague wrote: > >> On 12/03/2013 11:21 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: > >>> Excerpts from Sean Dague's message of 2013-12-03 16

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] MySQL Storage Engine

2013-12-04 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Paul Montgomery's message of 2013-12-04 12:04:06 -0800: > TLDR: Should Solum log a warning if operators do not use the InnoDB > storage engine with MySQL in Solum's control plane? > > > Details: > > I was looking at: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/57024/ > Models.py to be specifi

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