Re: [openstack-dev] [tricircle] local pluggable cascaded service

2015-08-03 Thread Vega Cai
Agree that we use polling mode to synchronize resource status, but it's a bit weird to deploy a localized service for just polling. Maybe we can define a status synchronizatioin task to handle such work so it can be done by cascade service itself. If multiple cascade service is deployed, to avoid c

Re: [openstack-dev] [Cinder] A possible solution for HA Active-Active

2015-08-03 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Gorka Eguileor's message of 2015-08-02 15:49:46 -0700: > On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 01:47:22AM -0700, Mike Perez wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 12:35 PM, Gorka Eguileor > > wrote: > > > I know we've all been looking at the HA Active-Active problem in Cinder > > > and trying our bes

Re: [openstack-dev] [Cinder] A possible solution for HA Active-Active

2015-08-03 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 03/08/15 00:49 +0200, Gorka Eguileor wrote: On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 01:47:22AM -0700, Mike Perez wrote: On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 12:35 PM, Gorka Eguileor wrote: > I know we've all been looking at the HA Active-Active problem in Cinder > and trying our best to figure out possible solutions to

Re: [openstack-dev] [Cinder] A possible solution for HA Active-Active

2015-08-03 Thread Gorka Eguileor
On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 03:18:39PM -0700, Clint Byrum wrote: > Excerpts from Mike Perez's message of 2015-07-31 10:40:04 -0700: > > On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 8:56 AM, Joshua Harlow wrote: > > > ...random thought here, skip as needed... in all honesty orchestration > > > solutions like mesos > > > (h

Re: [openstack-dev] Nova-database update

2015-08-03 Thread Pradeep Kiruvale
Hi Matt, Thanks for your reply. You mean to say what needs to be used for the scheduling ( CPUS, RAM, Storage etc ) has to be put into the Nova DB by implementing the APIs in every Nova compute server? These implementations acts as a nova-agents ? -Pradeep On 31 July 2015 at 18:03, Matt Riedem

Re: [openstack-dev] [Cinder][Ironic] A possible solution for HA Active-Active

2015-08-03 Thread Gorka Eguileor
On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 12:47:34PM -0700, Joshua Harlow wrote: > Joshua Harlow wrote: > >Mike Perez wrote: > >>On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 8:56 AM, Joshua Harlow > >>wrote: > >>>...random thought here, skip as needed... in all honesty orchestration > >>>solutions like mesos > >>>(http://mesos.apache.or

Re: [openstack-dev] [Cinder] A possible solution for HA Active-Active

2015-08-03 Thread Gorka Eguileor
On Mon, Aug 03, 2015 at 12:28:27AM -0700, Clint Byrum wrote: > Excerpts from Gorka Eguileor's message of 2015-08-02 15:49:46 -0700: > > On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 01:47:22AM -0700, Mike Perez wrote: > > > On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 12:35 PM, Gorka Eguileor > > > wrote: > > > > I know we've all been loo

Re: [openstack-dev] [Cinder] A possible solution for HA Active-Active

2015-08-03 Thread Thierry Carrez
Flavio Percoco wrote: > [...] > So, to summarize, I love the effort behind this. But, as others have > mentioned, I'd like us to take a step back, run this accross teams and > come up with an opinonated solution that would work for everyone. > > Starting this discussion now would allow us to prepa

Re: [openstack-dev] [Cinder] A possible solution for HA Active-Active

2015-08-03 Thread Gorka Eguileor
On Mon, Aug 03, 2015 at 10:22:42AM +0200, Thierry Carrez wrote: > Flavio Percoco wrote: > > [...] > > So, to summarize, I love the effort behind this. But, as others have > > mentioned, I'd like us to take a step back, run this accross teams and > > come up with an opinonated solution that would wo

Re: [openstack-dev] [Cinder] A possible solution for HA Active-Active

2015-08-03 Thread Julien Danjou
On Mon, Aug 03 2015, Thierry Carrez wrote: > The last thing we want is to rush a solution that would only solve a > particular project use case. Personally I'd like us to pick the simplest > solution that can solve most of the use cases. Each of the solutions > bring something to the table -- Zook

Re: [openstack-dev] [Cinder] A possible solution for HA Active-Active

2015-08-03 Thread Morgan Fainberg
Lets step back away from tooz. Tooz for the sake of this conversation is as much the same as saying zookeeper or consul or etcd, etc. We should be focused (as both Flavio and Thierry said) on if we need DLM and what it will solve. Once we have all of that defined, the use of an abstraction such

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][oslo][policy] oslo.policy adoption in Nova.

2015-08-03 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Davanum Srinivas (dims)'s message of 2015-08-02 21:16:32 -0400: > Sean, Nova-cores, > > The following Nova review is stuck: > https://review.openstack.org/#/c/198065/ > > What's the minimum features in oslo.policy that we have to add in > oslo.policy to unblock that work? > > If we

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone][Fernet] HA SQL backend for Fernet keys

2015-08-03 Thread Sergii Golovatiuk
Hi, I agree with Bogdan that key rotation procedure should be part of HA solution. If you make a simple script then this script will be a single point of failure. It requires operator's attention so it may lead to human errors also. Adding monitoring around it or expiration time is not a solution

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone][Fernet] HA SQL backend for Fernet keys

2015-08-03 Thread Adam Heczko
Hi folks, we are discussing operations on sensitive data. May I ask you what security controls Pacemaker provides? How we could audit its operations and data it is accessing? The same question arises when discussing native Keystone solution. >From the security perspective, reduction of attack surfa

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][oslo][policy] oslo.policy adoption in Nova.

2015-08-03 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Doug, All the features needed for Nova to work is present in oslo.policy (i.e. all features from old oslo-incubator copy is present in oslo.policy) -- dims On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 5:16 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > Excerpts from Davanum Srinivas (dims)'s message of 2015-08-02 21:16:32 -0400: >> Sea

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone][Fernet] HA SQL backend for Fernet keys

2015-08-03 Thread Sergii Golovatiuk
Hi, -- Best regards, Sergii Golovatiuk, Skype #golserge IRC #holser On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 12:44 PM, Adam Heczko wrote: > Hi folks, we are discussing operations on sensitive data. > May I ask you what security controls Pacemaker provides? > Pacemaker doesn't exchange any security information.

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][oslo][policy] oslo.policy adoption in Nova.

2015-08-03 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Davanum Srinivas (dims)'s message of 2015-08-03 06:46:26 -0400: > Doug, > > All the features needed for Nova to work is present in oslo.policy > (i.e. all features from old oslo-incubator copy is present in > oslo.policy) Great! I was worried that the copy local to nova had somehow

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone][Fernet] HA SQL backend for Fernet keys

2015-08-03 Thread Davanum Srinivas
agree. "Native HA solution" was already ruled out in several email threads by keystone cores already (if i remember right). This is a devops issue and should be handled as such was the feedback. Thanks, -- dims On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 7:03 AM, Sergii Golovatiuk wrote: > Hi, > > -- > Best regards,

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone][Fernet] HA SQL backend for Fernet keys

2015-08-03 Thread Morgan Fainberg
> On Aug 3, 2015, at 21:14, Davanum Srinivas wrote: > > agree. "Native HA solution" was already ruled out in several email > threads by keystone cores already (if i remember right). This is a > devops issue and should be handled as such was the feedback. > Correct. This is generally considere

[openstack-dev] [all] Need volunteers to test coverage 4.0 alpha release

2015-08-03 Thread Doug Hellmann
Do we have anyone willing to spend some time looking at the incompatibilities Ned mentions below to ensure that we have a smooth transition when 4.0 moves out of alpha? Doug --- Begin forwarded message from Ned Batchelder --- From: Ned Batchelder To: testing-in-python Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 07:

Re: [openstack-dev] [fuel] [upgrade] Cluster Upgrade - FFE status

2015-08-03 Thread Eugene Bogdanov
Oleg, thanks for the provided information. As discussed verbally, most core reviewers are now busy with fixing critical bugs, so you might get delayed responses. Keeping in mind, let's target Wednesday, Aug 5 as the last deadline. With that said, let's minimize review iterations so core reviewe

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone][Fernet] HA SQL backend for Fernet keys

2015-08-03 Thread David Stanek
On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 7:14 AM, Davanum Srinivas wrote: > agree. "Native HA solution" was already ruled out in several email > threads by keystone cores already (if i remember right). This is a > devops issue and should be handled as such was the feedback. > I'm sure you are right. I'm not sure

[openstack-dev] [Keystone] [Horizon] UI for Keystone dynamic policies editing

2015-08-03 Thread Timur Sufiev
Hello, folks! A word has come to me that on the recent Keystone mid-cycle summit dynamic policies have been discussed - as well as the lack of means to edit them in UX-friendly manner. I had my own share of editing *_policy.json files inside openstack_dashboard/conf and can hardly state it's easy.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone][Fernet] HA SQL backend for Fernet keys

2015-08-03 Thread Adam Heczko
Fine, then this simple bash based solution proposed by Boris [1] LGTM and is not over thinked. Maybe add kind of md5 or sha1 checksum functionality to confirm if keys were rotated correctly and are in sync. [1] http://paste.openstack.org/show/406674/ Regards, Adam On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 2:03 PM

Re: [openstack-dev] [fuel] [upgrade] Cluster Upgrade - FFE status

2015-08-03 Thread Oleg Gelbukh
Eugene, To increase focus and ensure velocity increase, we decided to descope the following patch from the current release cycle [1]. This willl have minor effect on supported use cases, but will allow us to focus on the required parts [2] [3]. [1] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/203537/ [2] htt

[openstack-dev] [pbr] [stable] [infra] How to generate .Z version increments on stable/liberty commits

2015-08-03 Thread Thierry Carrez
Hi everyone, A month ago the stable branch team decided to move away from synchronized stable point releases and enable continuous stable branch delivery instead. The end goal is that every commit on a stable branch for a "service" project will get a .Z version increment, and a tag be pushed to m

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][lbaas] Horizon support for neutron-lbaas v2

2015-08-03 Thread santosh sharma
Hi Vivek, How to get the lbaas v2 UI up with mentioned changelist? Thanks Santosh On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 8:24 AM, Jain, Vivek wrote: > Initial code for horizon lbaas v2 dashboard submitted: > > https://review.openstack.org/#/c/206797 > > Thanks, > vivek > > From: "Jain, Vivek" > Reply-To: "O

[openstack-dev] [stable] [infra] How to auto-generate stable release notes

2015-08-03 Thread Thierry Carrez
Hi everyone, A month ago the stable branch team decided to move away from synchronized stable point releases and enable continuous stable branch delivery instead. A side-effect of this decision is that we need to move away from a model where we curate release notes for each stable point release,

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone][Fernet] HA SQL backend for Fernet keys

2015-08-03 Thread Lance Bragstad
On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 7:03 AM, David Stanek wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 7:14 AM, Davanum Srinivas > wrote: > >> agree. "Native HA solution" was already ruled out in several email >> threads by keystone cores already (if i remember right). This is a >> devops issue and should be handled as

[openstack-dev] [mistral] Team meeting reminder - 08/03/2015

2015-08-03 Thread Nikolay Makhotkin
Hi, This is a reminder that we’ll have a team meeting today at #openstack-meeting at 16.00 UTC. Agenda: - Review action items - Current status (progress, issues, roadblocks, further plans) - Liberty-2 release - Open discussion Add your own items either by replying to this email or

Re: [openstack-dev] [Cinder] A possible solution for HA Active-Active

2015-08-03 Thread Arkady_Kanevsky
Agree with Thierry. Let's define requirements. We are trying to solve HA not scale "infinitely" number of cinder instances running. Thanks, Arkady -Original Message- From: Gorka Eguileor [mailto:gegui...@redhat.com] Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 3:44 AM To: OpenStack Development Mailing L

Re: [openstack-dev] How should we expose host capabilities to the scheduler

2015-08-03 Thread Dulko, Michal
> -Original Message- > From: Dugger, Donald D [mailto:donald.d.dug...@intel.com] > Sent: Monday, August 3, 2015 7:40 AM > To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > Subject: [openstack-dev] How should we expose host capabilities to the > scheduler > > Without going

Re: [openstack-dev] [glance] Additions and removals for the glance-drivers team

2015-08-03 Thread Nikhil Komawar
We asked Stuart personally during the recent Glance mid-cycle if he wanted to join and he said yes. Guess it's appropriate time for rotation now. On 8/1/15 11:44 PM, Flavio Percoco wrote: > On 09/07/15 20:37 +0200, Flavio Percoco wrote: >> Greetings, >> >> I'd like to propose Stuart Mclaren for th

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone][Fernet] HA SQL backend for Fernet keys

2015-08-03 Thread Vladimir Kuklin
Folks As Sergii G. already pointed out if you want this solution to work in production, you should provide common ways of synchronization between different processing entities. Otherwise your "very simple one-script solution" will be prone to errors such as race conditions and others. You need to

[openstack-dev] [Glance] Artifacts sub team meeting 08/03

2015-08-03 Thread Nikhil Komawar
Hi, We had a very low turnout to the above meeting today. Hence, we did a very short update and ended it. You may find more details here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance_artifacts_sub_team/2015/glance_artifacts_sub_team.2015-08-03-14.10.html -- Thanks, Nikhil _

Re: [openstack-dev] [pbr] [stable] [infra] How to generate .Z version increments on stable/liberty commits

2015-08-03 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2015-08-03 14:46:51 +0200 (+0200), Thierry Carrez wrote: [...] > In order to make this work, it looks like we'd require: > > * pbr changes so that it supports a mode where every commit on the > branch increments .Z > > * infra changes to automatically push the corresponding tag when the > comm

Re: [openstack-dev] [stable] [infra] How to auto-generate stable release notes

2015-08-03 Thread Alexis Lee
Thierry Carrez said on Mon, Aug 03, 2015 at 02:57:39PM +0200: > 1. we can maintain a Changelog document directly in the source code. > Rather than being straightly backported from master, commits with > significant changes would be amended to additionally modify that document. Wouldn't this cause

Re: [openstack-dev] [glance] Additions and removals for the glance-drivers team

2015-08-03 Thread Nikhil Komawar
This has been implemented. Thanks all for participation. On 8/3/15 10:14 AM, Nikhil Komawar wrote: > We asked Stuart personally during the recent Glance mid-cycle if he > wanted to join and he said yes. Guess it's appropriate time for > rotation now. > > On 8/1/15 11:44 PM, Flavio Percoco wrote: >

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][lbaas] Horizon support for neutron-lbaas v2

2015-08-03 Thread Jain, Vivek
For now, take this code and merge with exiting horizon setup (openstack_dashbord) and restart horizon. With that you will see loadbalancers_v2 panel on the left pane. Thanks, Vivek From: santosh sharma mailto:chitr.praya...@gmail.com>> Reply-To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usag

Re: [openstack-dev] [Cinder] Quobyte Cinder Driver revert?

2015-08-03 Thread Mike Perez
On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 9:11 AM, Duncan Thomas wrote: > It was discussed on the mailing list, and at the weekly meeting. Mike had > had no response on the issue from the listed contact email, and the CI was > reporting failure for every patch for two months > > On 3 Jul 2015 17:33, "Silvan Kaiser"

Re: [openstack-dev] [Cinder] A possible solution for HA Active-Active

2015-08-03 Thread Joshua Harlow
Morgan Fainberg wrote: Lets step back away from tooz. Tooz for the sake of this conversation is as much the same as saying zookeeper or consul or etcd, etc. We should be focused (as both Flavio and Thierry said) on if we need DLM and what it will solve. So IMHO part of the problem with just

Re: [openstack-dev] [Cinder] A possible solution for HA Active-Active

2015-08-03 Thread Fox, Kevin M
+1. From: Flavio Percoco [fla...@redhat.com] Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 12:30 AM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Cinder] A possible solution for HA Active-Active On 03/08/15 00:49 +02

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Need volunteers to test coverage 4.0 alpha release

2015-08-03 Thread Brant Knudson
On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 6:32 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > Do we have anyone willing to spend some time looking at the > incompatibilities Ned mentions below to ensure that we have a smooth > transition when 4.0 moves out of alpha? > > Doug > > Seems to work ok with keystone. There were a couple of p

Re: [openstack-dev] [Cinder] A possible solution for HA Active-Active

2015-08-03 Thread Joshua Harlow
Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Gorka Eguileor's message of 2015-08-02 15:49:46 -0700: On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 01:47:22AM -0700, Mike Perez wrote: On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 12:35 PM, Gorka Eguileor wrote: I know we've all been looking at the HA Active-Active problem in Cinder and trying our be

Re: [openstack-dev] [Cinder] A possible solution for HA Active-Active

2015-08-03 Thread Fox, Kevin M
I'm usually for abstraction layers, but they don't always pay off very well due to catering to the lowest common denominator. Lets clearly define the problem space first. IFF the problem space can be fully implemented using Tooz, then lets do that. Then the operator can choose. If Tooz cant and

Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla] Mission change suggested by the TC for big tent

2015-08-03 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
On 7/30/15, 4:26 PM, "Doug Hellmann" wrote: >Excerpts from Steven Dake (stdake)'s message of 2015-07-30 15:27:15 +: >> >> On 7/29/15, 1:23 PM, "Doug Hellmann" wrote: >> >> >Excerpts from Steven Dake (stdake)'s message of 2015-07-29 20:07:26 >>+: >> >> Doug Hellman of the TC suggested

[openstack-dev] [Neutron] Common Base class for agents

2015-08-03 Thread Andreas Scheuring
Hi, I'm planning to add a new ml2 driver and agent to neutron supporting macvtap attachments [1]. Kyle already decided, that this code should land in the neutron tree [2]. The normal approach till now was to copy an existing agent code and modify accordingly, which lead to a lot of duplicated code

Re: [openstack-dev] How should we expose host capabilities to the scheduler

2015-08-03 Thread Alexis Lee
Dugger, Donald D said on Mon, Aug 03, 2015 at 05:39:49AM +: > Also note that, although many capabilities can be represented by > simple key/value pairs (e.g. the presence of a specific special > instruction) that is not true for all capabilities (e.g. Numa topology > doesn't really fit into thi

Re: [openstack-dev] [Cinder] A possible solution for HA Active-Active

2015-08-03 Thread Devananda van der Veen
On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 8:41 AM Joshua Harlow wrote: > Clint Byrum wrote: > > Excerpts from Gorka Eguileor's message of 2015-08-02 15:49:46 -0700: > >> On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 01:47:22AM -0700, Mike Perez wrote: > >>> On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 12:35 PM, Gorka Eguileor > wrote: > I know we've al

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][oslo][policy] oslo.policy adoption in Nova.

2015-08-03 Thread Sergey Vilgelm
If i understood correctly, the main difference is that the parse_rule function is a private now in the oslo.policy library, also Jeffrey Zhang has changed this function and put into nova.policy module. I offer remove this function from the nova and make a public in the oslo.policy. On Mon, Aug 3,

Re: [openstack-dev] [Cinder] A possible solution for HA Active-Active

2015-08-03 Thread Joshua Harlow
Devananda van der Veen wrote: On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 8:41 AM Joshua Harlow mailto:harlo...@outlook.com>> wrote: Clint Byrum wrote: > Excerpts from Gorka Eguileor's message of 2015-08-02 15:49:46 -0700: >> On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 01:47:22AM -0700, Mike Perez wrote: >>> On Mon

Re: [openstack-dev] [pbr] [stable] [infra] How to generate .Z version increments on stable/liberty commits

2015-08-03 Thread Thierry Carrez
Jeremy Stanley wrote: > On 2015-08-03 14:46:51 +0200 (+0200), Thierry Carrez wrote: > [...] >> In order to make this work, it looks like we'd require: >> >> * pbr changes so that it supports a mode where every commit on the >> branch increments .Z >> >> * infra changes to automatically push the cor

[openstack-dev] [kolla][announce] Announcing the release of Kolla Liberty-2

2015-08-03 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
Hi folks, the Kolla community is pleased to announce the release of the Kolla Liberty 2 milestone. This release fixes 77 bugs and implements 18 blueprints! Our community developed the following notable features: * Source building of containers * Ansible Deployment for core services * High

Re: [openstack-dev] [pbr] [stable] [infra] How to generate .Z version increments on stable/liberty commits

2015-08-03 Thread Ian Cordasco
On 8/3/15, 11:11, "Thierry Carrez" wrote: >Jeremy Stanley wrote: >> On 2015-08-03 14:46:51 +0200 (+0200), Thierry Carrez wrote: >> [...] >>> In order to make this work, it looks like we'd require: >>> >>> * pbr changes so that it supports a mode where every commit on the >>> branch increments .

Re: [openstack-dev] [Magnum]horizontal scalability

2015-08-03 Thread Adrian Otto
On Aug 2, 2015, at 7:40 PM, 王华 mailto:wanghua.hum...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi all, As discussed in the Vancouver Summit, we are going to drop the bay lock implementation. Instead, each conductor will call Heat concurrently and rely on heat for concurrency control. However, I think we need an ap

Re: [openstack-dev] [designate] and [lbaas] - GSLB API and backend support

2015-08-03 Thread Gandhi, Kunal
Hi Graham, Can we have your GSLB pull request merged to the repo https://github.com/gslb/gslb-specs/pull/1/files ? I would like to send another pull request based on these changes. Regards Kunal > On Jun 30, 2015, at 8:38 AM, Hayes, Graham w

Re: [openstack-dev] [Cinder] encryption is not supported in ceph volume

2015-08-03 Thread Matt Riedemann
On 7/30/2015 1:02 AM, Li, Xiaoyan wrote: Hi all, I created an encryption type, and create a volume in Ceph with the volume type. cinder encryption-type-create But failed to attach it to a VM. The error message shows that no device_path in connection_info. ^[[01;31m2015-07-30 05:55:57.117

[openstack-dev] [Manila] Midcycle meetup highlights

2015-08-03 Thread Ben Swartzlander
Thanks to all of those who attended the midcycle. We had more than 20 attendees this cycle and excellent participation -- also some new faces! My apologies for the Google Hangouts failure. We ended up switching to Webex for the audio/video conferencing and it scaled significantly better. I exp

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Common Base class for agents

2015-08-03 Thread Kevin Benton
I would just de-dup anything that is obvious into a common class to inherit from. Don't go through any major re-factorings because that will just take longer to review and will probably need to be reworked anyway when we spend more time on the modular agent stuff later in the cycle. On Mon, Aug 3,

Re: [openstack-dev] [Cinder] A possible solution for HA Active-Active

2015-08-03 Thread Gorka Eguileor
On Mon, Aug 03, 2015 at 07:01:45PM +1000, Morgan Fainberg wrote: > Lets step back away from tooz. Tooz for the sake of this conversation is as > much the same as saying zookeeper or consul or etcd, etc. We should be > focused (as both Flavio and Thierry said) on if we need DLM and what it will >

[openstack-dev] [Infra] Meeting Tuesday August 4th at 19:00 UTC

2015-08-03 Thread Elizabeth K. Joseph
Hi everyone, The OpenStack Infrastructure (Infra) team is having our next weekly meeting on Tuesday August 4th, at 19:00 UTC in #openstack-meeting Meeting agenda available here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/InfraTeamMeeting (anyone is welcome to to add agenda items) Everyone interest

Re: [openstack-dev] [Cinder] A possible solution for HA Active-Active

2015-08-03 Thread Gorka Eguileor
On Mon, Aug 03, 2015 at 03:42:48PM +, Fox, Kevin M wrote: > I'm usually for abstraction layers, but they don't always pay off very well > due to catering to the lowest common denominator. > > Lets clearly define the problem space first. IFF the problem space can be > fully implemented using

Re: [openstack-dev] [Cinder] A possible solution for HA Active-Active

2015-08-03 Thread D'Angelo, Scott
We'll have a chance to discuss DB mutual exclusion at the API nodes at the Cider mid-cyle, which starts tomorrow. The details, issues, and realistic schedule for that will be a key piece to this whole puzzle, since anything else is seen as a temporary solution. -Original Message- From: G

Re: [openstack-dev] [Cinder] A possible solution for HA Active-Active

2015-08-03 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Devananda van der Veen's message of 2015-08-03 08:53:21 -0700: > On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 8:41 AM Joshua Harlow wrote: > > > Clint Byrum wrote: > > > Excerpts from Gorka Eguileor's message of 2015-08-02 15:49:46 -0700: > > >> On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 01:47:22AM -0700, Mike Perez wrote:

Re: [openstack-dev] [openstack-announce] [release][oslo] tooz release 1.21.0 (liberty)

2015-08-03 Thread Justin Hammond
FUCK OFF From: "dava...@gmail.com" mailto:dava...@gmail.com>> Reply-To: "openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org" mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org>> Date: Monday, August 3, 2015 at 12:50:00PM To: "openstack-annou...@lists.op

Re: [openstack-dev] [pbr] [stable] [infra] How to generate .Z version increments on stable/liberty commits

2015-08-03 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Thierry Carrez's message of 2015-08-03 18:11:53 +0200: > Jeremy Stanley wrote: > > On 2015-08-03 14:46:51 +0200 (+0200), Thierry Carrez wrote: > > [...] > >> In order to make this work, it looks like we'd require: > >> > >> * pbr changes so that it supports a mode where every commit o

Re: [openstack-dev] [Cinder] A possible solution for HA Active-Active

2015-08-03 Thread Fox, Kevin M
For example, to parallel the conversation with databases: "We want a database". Well, that means mongodb, postgres, mysql, berkeleydb, etc "Oh, well, I need it to be a relational db", Well, that means postgresq, mysql, etc "Oh, and I need recursive queries"... that excludes even more.

Re: [openstack-dev] [pbr] [stable] [infra] How to generate .Z version increments on stable/liberty commits

2015-08-03 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2015-08-03 16:42:06 + (+), Ian Cordasco wrote: > Auto-tagging seems to be the least amount of work. That could be > done as a post-commit hook or post-receive (depending on where we > implement it) upstream. Well, not as a git hook but we would likely run it as a CI job in zuul's post p

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][L3] Representing a networks connected by routers

2015-08-03 Thread Carl Baldwin
Kevin, sorry for the delay in response. Keeping up on this thread was getting difficult while on vacation. tl;dr: I think it is worth it to talk through the idea of inserting some sort of a "subnet group thing" in the model to which floating ips (and router external gateways) will associate. It

[openstack-dev] [nova] Feature Freeze Exception Request

2015-08-03 Thread Sajeesh Cimson Sasi
Hello, I would like to request feature freeze exception for the implementation of Nested Quota Driver for Nova, which does the quota management of nested projects. Blueprint https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/nested-quota-driver-api Addr

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][oslo][policy] oslo.policy adoption in Nova.

2015-08-03 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Sergey Vilgelm's message of 2015-08-03 19:05:52 +0300: > If i understood correctly, the main difference is that the parse_rule > function is a private now in the oslo.policy library, also Jeffrey Zhang > has changed this function and put into nova.policy module. I offer remove > this

Re: [openstack-dev] [pbr] [stable] [infra] How to generate .Z version increments on stable/liberty commits

2015-08-03 Thread Robert Collins
On 4 August 2015 at 06:06, Doug Hellmann wrote: > Excerpts from Thierry Carrez's message of 2015-08-03 18:11:53 +0200: >> Jeremy Stanley wrote: >> > On 2015-08-03 14:46:51 +0200 (+0200), Thierry Carrez wrote: >> > [...] >> >> In order to make this work, it looks like we'd require: >> >> >> >> * pb

Re: [openstack-dev] [stable] [infra] How to auto-generate stable release notes

2015-08-03 Thread Robert Collins
On 4 August 2015 at 02:46, Alexis Lee wrote: > Thierry Carrez said on Mon, Aug 03, 2015 at 02:57:39PM +0200: >> 1. we can maintain a Changelog document directly in the source code. >> Rather than being straightly backported from master, commits with >> significant changes would be amended to addit

Re: [openstack-dev] [openstack-announce] [release][oslo] tooz release 1.21.0 (liberty)

2015-08-03 Thread Doug Hellmann
Hi, Justin, Perhaps you meant to click through to http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-announce and unsubscribe? Let me know if you need help figuring that interface out. Doug Excerpts from Justin Hammond's message of 2015-08-03 18:00:02 +: > FUCK OFF > > From: "dav

Re: [openstack-dev] [pbr] [stable] [infra] How to generate .Z version increments on stable/liberty commits

2015-08-03 Thread Clark Boylan
On Mon, Aug 3, 2015, at 05:46 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > Hi everyone, > > A month ago the stable branch team decided to move away from > synchronized stable point releases and enable continuous stable branch > delivery instead. > > The end goal is that every commit on a stable branch for a "serv

Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum][blueprint] magnum-service-list

2015-08-03 Thread Jay Lau
Hi Suro and others, comments on this? Thanks. 2015-07-30 5:40 GMT-04:00 Jay Lau : > Hi Suro, > > In my understanding, even other CoE might have service/pod/rc concepts in > future, we may still want to distinguish the "magnum service-list" with > "magnum coe-service-list". > > service-list is mai

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][oslo][policy] oslo.policy adoption in Nova.

2015-08-03 Thread Sergey Vilgelm
On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 9:37 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > Making that function public may be the most expedient fix, but the > parser was made private for a reason, so before we expose it we > should understand why, and if there are alternatives (such as > creating a fixture in oslo.policy to do wha

Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum][blueprint] magnum-service-list

2015-08-03 Thread Adrian Otto
Jay makes a good point here. The service-list output is specific to the “service” abstraction in the COE, not the system services that are part of magnum. The suggested rename from service-list to coe-service-list would make this distinction more clear. Adrian On Jul 30, 2015, at 2:40 AM, Jay

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Proposal for an Experiment

2015-08-03 Thread Jesse Cook
Jesse J. CookCompute Team Lead jesse.c...@rackspace.com irc: #compute-eng (gimchi) mobile: 618-530-0659 On 7/20/15, 12:40 PM, "Clint Byr

Re: [openstack-dev] [Cinder] Quobyte Cinder Driver revert?

2015-08-03 Thread Matt Riedemann
On 8/3/2015 10:23 AM, Mike Perez wrote: On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 9:11 AM, Duncan Thomas wrote: It was discussed on the mailing list, and at the weekly meeting. Mike had had no response on the issue from the listed contact email, and the CI was reporting failure for every patch for two months O

Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum][blueprint] magnum-service-list

2015-08-03 Thread SURO
Hi Jay, Thanks for clarifying the requirements further. I do agree with the idea of having 'magnum service-list' and 'magnum coe-service-list' to distinguish that coe-service is a different concept. BUT, in openstack space, I do not see 'service-list' as a standardized function across other A

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Thoughts on things that don't make freeze cutoffs

2015-08-03 Thread Jesse Cook
On 7/29/15, 2:13 PM, "Matt Riedemann" wrote: >We talked a bit about this at the nova mid-cycle last week but I can't >say I completely remember all of the points made, since I feel like we >talked ourselves into a circle that got us back to more or less 'the >current specs and freeze process is

Re: [openstack-dev] [Cinder] A possible solution for HA Active-Active

2015-08-03 Thread Morgan Fainberg
> On Aug 4, 2015, at 01:42, Fox, Kevin M wrote: > > I'm usually for abstraction layers, but they don't always pay off very well > due to catering to the lowest common denominator. > > Lets clearly define the problem space first. IFF the problem space can be > fully implemented using Tooz, th

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][oslo][policy] oslo.policy adoption in Nova.

2015-08-03 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Sergey Vilgelm's message of 2015-08-03 22:11:50 +0300: > On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 9:37 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > > Making that function public may be the most expedient fix, but the > > parser was made private for a reason, so before we expose it we > > should understand why, and i

Re: [openstack-dev] [stable] [infra] How to auto-generate stable release notes

2015-08-03 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Robert Collins's message of 2015-08-04 06:43:48 +1200: > On 4 August 2015 at 02:46, Alexis Lee wrote: > > Thierry Carrez said on Mon, Aug 03, 2015 at 02:57:39PM +0200: > >> 1. we can maintain a Changelog document directly in the source code. > >> Rather than being straightly backport

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][oslo][policy] oslo.policy adoption in Nova.

2015-08-03 Thread Morgan Fainberg
> On Aug 4, 2015, at 05:49, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > Excerpts from Sergey Vilgelm's message of 2015-08-03 22:11:50 +0300: >>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 9:37 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: >>> >>> Making that function public may be the most expedient fix, but the >>> parser was made private for a reaso

Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla] Mission change suggested by the TC for big tent

2015-08-03 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Steven Dake (stdake)'s message of 2015-08-03 15:47:28 +: > > On 7/30/15, 4:26 PM, "Doug Hellmann" wrote: > > >Excerpts from Steven Dake (stdake)'s message of 2015-07-30 15:27:15 +: > >> > >> On 7/29/15, 1:23 PM, "Doug Hellmann" wrote: > >> > >> >Excerpts from Steven Dake

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Need volunteers to test coverage 4.0 alpha release

2015-08-03 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Brant Knudson's message of 2015-08-03 10:32:51 -0500: > On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 6:32 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > > Do we have anyone willing to spend some time looking at the > > incompatibilities Ned mentions below to ensure that we have a smooth > > transition when 4.0 moves out o

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][oslo][policy] oslo.policy adoption in Nova.

2015-08-03 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Morgan Fainberg's message of 2015-08-04 06:05:56 +1000: > > > On Aug 4, 2015, at 05:49, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > > > Excerpts from Sergey Vilgelm's message of 2015-08-03 22:11:50 +0300: > >>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 9:37 PM, Doug Hellmann > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> Making that func

[openstack-dev] [puppet] weekly meeting #45

2015-08-03 Thread Emilien Macchi
Hello, Here's an initial agenda for our weekly meeting, tomorrow at 1500 UTC in #openstack-meeting-4: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/puppet-openstack-weekly-meeting-20150804 Please add additional items you'd like to discuss. If our schedule allows it, we'll make bug triage during the meeting.

[openstack-dev] [nova] [FFE] Feature Freeze Exception Request for virtuozzo related features

2015-08-03 Thread Maxim Nestratov
Hello nova team, On behalf of the team working on Virtuozzo libvirt driver support in nova, I would like to ask for a feature freeze exception for the following two blueprints related to virtuozzo libvirt driver (virt_type=parallels): - virtuozzo instance resize support https://blueprints.l

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone] [Horizon] UI for Keystone dynamic policies editing

2015-08-03 Thread Lin Hua Cheng
Hi Timur, Thanks for bringing this up. I think we can borrow some concept from the Mistral Workbook Builder. I like the ability to add items and seeing the preview on the right side. We can re-use that part. The challenging part would be building a Rule expression builder that supports the polic

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [oslo] Suggestion to change verbose=false to true in oslo.log by default

2015-08-03 Thread Matt Riedemann
On 7/28/2015 4:28 AM, Dmitry Tantsur wrote: On 07/27/2015 02:11 PM, Sean Dague wrote: Honestly, I think deprecating and removing 'verbose' is probably the best option. INFO is probably the right default behavior, and it's not really "verbose" in any real openstack usage. It is unlikely that an

[openstack-dev] Would people see a value in the cve-check-tool?

2015-08-03 Thread Reshetova, Elena
Hi, We would like to ask opinions if people find it valuable to include a cve-check-tool into the OpenStack continuous integration process? A tool can be run against the package and module dependencies of OpenStack components and detect any CVEs (in future there are also plans to integrate mo

Re: [openstack-dev] [stable] [infra] How to auto-generate stable release notes

2015-08-03 Thread Joshua Harlow
Perhaps the following can be used? https://github.com/vaab/gitchangelog#gitchangelog That does impose a commit message format, but then any kind of release notes generated from a commit log will require some sort of standard to be maintained (otherwise it's going to be tough to auto-generate

Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla] Mission change suggested by the TC for big tent

2015-08-03 Thread Martin André
On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 5:47 PM, Steven Dake (stdake) wrote: > > > On 7/30/15, 4:26 PM, "Doug Hellmann" wrote: > > >Excerpts from Steven Dake (stdake)'s message of 2015-07-30 15:27:15 +: > >> > >> On 7/29/15, 1:23 PM, "Doug Hellmann" wrote: > >> > >> >Excerpts from Steven Dake (stdake)'s mes

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][oslo][policy] oslo.policy adoption in Nova.

2015-08-03 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Doug Hellmann's message of 2015-08-03 16:19:31 -0400: > Excerpts from Morgan Fainberg's message of 2015-08-04 06:05:56 +1000: > > > > > On Aug 4, 2015, at 05:49, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > > > > > Excerpts from Sergey Vilgelm's message of 2015-08-03 22:11:50 +0300: > > >>> On Mon, Au

[openstack-dev] [neutron][vpnaas] Next IRC meeting - Tuesday, August 4th.

2015-08-03 Thread Paul Michali
Will hold another meeting tomorrow. If you have items for the agenda, please update the Wiki. Regards, Paul Michali (pc_m) __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lis

Re: [openstack-dev] [Cinder] A possible solution for HA Active-Active

2015-08-03 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 03/08/15 08:32 -0700, Joshua Harlow wrote: Morgan Fainberg wrote: Lets step back away from tooz. Tooz for the sake of this conversation is as much the same as saying zookeeper or consul or etcd, etc. We should be focused (as both Flavio and Thierry said) on if we need DLM and what it will s

Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum][blueprint] magnum-service-list

2015-08-03 Thread Jay Lau
Hi Suro, Yes, I did not see a strong reason for adding "service-list" to show all of magnum system services, but it is nice to have. But I did see a strong reason to rename "service-list" to "coe-service-list" or others which might be more meaningful as I was often asked by someone why does "magn

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