Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] Licensing issue with using JSHint in build

2014-09-11 Thread Solly Ross
I want to apologize for my rapid response, I was incorrect about the license because of the file you pointed out. I did not intend to sound snarky or anything like that in either the original email or the reply. Anyway, for future reference, I believe the last thread where this was discussed was

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Server Groups - remove VM from group?

2014-09-11 Thread Sylvain Bauza
Le 11/09/2014 01:10, Joe Cropper a écrit : Agreed - I’ll draft up a formal proposal in the next week or two and we can focus the discussion there. Thanks for the feedback - this provides a good framework for implementation considerations. Count me on it, I'm interested in discussing the nex

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Server Groups - remove VM from group?

2014-09-11 Thread Joe Cropper
Great to hear. I started a blueprint for this [1]. More detail can be added once the kilo nova-specs directory is created… for now, I’ve tried to put some fairly detailed notes on the blueprint’s description. [1] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/dynamic-server-groups - Joe On Sep 1

[openstack-dev] Supporting Javascript clients calling OpenStack APIs

2014-09-11 Thread Richard Jones
[This is Horizon-related but affects every service in OpenStack, hence no filter in the subject] I would like for OpenStack to support browser-based Javascript API clients. Currently this is not possible because of cross-origin resource blocking in Javascript clients - that is, given some Javascri

Re: [openstack-dev] global-reqs on tooz pulls in worrisome transitive dep

2014-09-11 Thread Thomas Goirand
Hi Matt, On 09/10/2014 04:30 AM, Matt Riedemann wrote: > It took me a while to untangle this so prepare for links. :) > > I noticed this change [1] today for global-requirements to require tooz > [2] for a ceilometer blueprint [3]. > > The sad part is that tooz requires pymemcache [4] which is,

[openstack-dev] [Fuel] Experimental features and how they affect HCF

2014-09-11 Thread Mike Scherbakov
Hi all, what about using "experimental" tag for experimental features? After we implemented feature groups [1], we can divide our features and for complex features, or those which don't get enough QA resources in the dev cycle, we can declare as experimental. It would mean that those are not produ

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] Licensing issue with using JSHint in build

2014-09-11 Thread Martin Geisler
Solly Ross writes: Hi, I recently began using using ESLint for all my JavaScript linting: http://eslint.org/ It has nice documentation, a normal license, and you can easily write new rules for it. > P.S. Here's hoping that the JSHint devs eventually find a way to > remove that line from the

[openstack-dev] Fwd: [Horizon] Last remaining Django 1.7 issue in Horizon (and other OpenStack packages)

2014-09-11 Thread Thomas Goirand
Hi, Here's a message from the maintainer of python-django in Debian. We've been trying to switch to Django 1.7, because we would like to benefits from its security support for the life of Debian Jessie. I have already fixed numerous Debian packages regarding Django 1.7 compatibility (for example:

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] Adding Nejc Saje to ceilometer-core

2014-09-11 Thread Eoghan Glynn
> Hi, > > Nejc has been doing a great work and has been very helpful during the > Juno cycle and his help is very valuable. > > I'd like to propose that we add Nejc Saje to the ceilometer-core group. > > Please, dear ceilometer-core members, reply with your votes! A hearty +1 for me, Nejc has

Re: [openstack-dev] Supporting Javascript clients calling OpenStack APIs

2014-09-11 Thread Robert Collins
FWIW I'm very much in favour of having a single host API - I was looking at doing that in Apache for TripleO deployments anyway, due to the better SSL deployment characteristics. We then would register the actual single host endpoint in publicURL. How would that work for multiple regions with java

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Experimental features and how they affect HCF

2014-09-11 Thread Igor Kalnitsky
> I think we should not count bugs for HCF criteria if they affect only > experimental feature(s). +1, I'm totally agree with you - it makes no sense to count experimental bugs as HCF criteria. > Any objections / other ideas? I think it would be great for customers if we point somewhere about kn

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] Adding Nejc Saje to ceilometer-core

2014-09-11 Thread Lu, Lianhao
+1 from me. Best Regards, Lianhao > -Original Message- > From: Julien Danjou [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 6:35 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] Adding Nejc Saje to ceilometer-core > > Hi, > > Nejc ha

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] referencing the index of a ResourceGroup

2014-09-11 Thread Steven Hardy
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 04:44:01PM -0500, Jason Greathouse wrote: >I'm trying to find a way to create a set of servers and attach a new >volume to each server. >I first tried to use block_device_mapping but that requires an existing >snapshot or volume and the deployment would fai

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] Adding Nejc Saje to ceilometer-core

2014-09-11 Thread Mehdi Abaakouk
+1 -- Mehdi Abaakouk mail: [email protected] irc: sileht signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Experimental features and how they affect HCF

2014-09-11 Thread Mike Scherbakov
> if we point somewhere about knowing issues in those experimental features there are might be dozens of bugs. May be we can use tag per feature, for example "zabbix", so it will be easy to search in LP all open bugs regarding Zabbix feature? On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Igor Kalnitsky wrote

[openstack-dev] [Neutron][Architecture]Suggestions for the third vendors' plugin and driver

2014-09-11 Thread Germy Lure
Hi stackers, According to my statistics(J2), the LOC of vendors' plugin and driver is about 102K, while the whole under neutron is 220K. That is to say the community has paid and is paying over 46% energy to maintain vendors' code. If we take mails, bugs, BPs and so on into consideration, this pe

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Experimental features and how they affect HCF

2014-09-11 Thread Igor Kalnitsky
> May be we can use tag per feature, for example "zabbix" Tags are ok, but I still think that we can mention at least some significant bugs. For example, if some feature doesn't work in some deployment mode (e.g. simple, with ceilometer, etc) we can at least notify users so they even don't try. A

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][neutron][cinder] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-11 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 09:23:34AM +1000, Michael Still wrote: > On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 8:11 AM, Jay Pipes wrote: > > > a) Sorting out the common code is already accounted for in Dan B's original > > proposal -- it's a prerequisite for the split. > > Its a big prerequisite though. I think we're

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][neutron][cinder] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-11 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 07:35:05PM -0700, Armando M. wrote: > Hi, > > I devoured this thread, so much it was interesting and full of > insights. It's not news that we've been pondering about this in the > Neutron project for the past and existing cycle or so. > > Likely, this effort is going to t

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-11 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 12:41:44PM -0700, Vishvananda Ishaya wrote: > > On Sep 5, 2014, at 4:12 AM, Sean Dague wrote: > > > On 09/05/2014 06:40 AM, Nikola Đipanov wrote: > >> > >> > >> Just some things to think about with regards to the whole idea, by no > >> means exhaustive. > > > > So mayb

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][Architecture]Suggestions for the third vendors' plugin and driver

2014-09-11 Thread Kevin Benton
This has been brought up several times already and I believe is going to be discussed at the Kilo summit. I agree that reviewing third party patches eats community time. However, claiming that the community pays 46% of it's energy to maintain vendor-specific code doesn't make any sense. LOC in the

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-11 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Thu, Sep 04, 2014 at 05:27:06PM +, Alessandro Pilotti wrote: > This means that if we reach a point in which we agree to spin off the drivers > in > separate core projects, we need to consider how driver related CIs will be > still > included in the Nova review process, possibly with voting

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] master access control - future work

2014-09-11 Thread Evgeniy L
Hi Lukasz, Regarding to 'Node agent authorization' do you have some ideas how it could be done? For me it looks really complicated, because we don't upgrade agents on slave nodes and I'm not sure if we will be able to do it in the nearest future. Thanks, On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 1:50 PM, Lukasz Ol

Re: [openstack-dev] Announcing Gertty 1.0.0: A console interface to Gerrit

2014-09-11 Thread Daniele Pizzolli
James E. Blair wrote: [] > We write code in a terminal. We read logs in a terminal. We debug code > in a terminal. We commit in a terminal. You know what's next. [] Hello James, thanks for the announce and for gertty, I am new to OpenStack, and this tools is really interesting to me. In f

[openstack-dev] [Ironic] Error in deploying ironicon Ubuntu 12.04

2014-09-11 Thread Peeyush
Hi all, I have been trying to deploy Openstack-ironic on a Ubuntu 12.04 VM. I encountered the following error: 2014-09-11 10:08:11.166 | Reading package lists... 2014-09-11 10:08:11.471 | Building dependency tree... 2014-09-11 10:08:11.475 | Reading state information... 2014-09-11 10:08:11.610 |

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Experimental features and how they affect HCF

2014-09-11 Thread Nikolay Markov
Probably, even "experimental feature" should at least pretend to be working, anyway, or it shouldn't be publically announced. But I think it's important to describe limitation of this features (or mark some of them as "untested") and I think list of known issues with links to most important bugs is

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] 5.1 branch created

2014-09-11 Thread bdobrelia
Please also note, that all open patches created *before* the stable/5.1 branch should now be reconsidered as targeted to 6.0 release instead of 5.1 as they initially were upon the submission. Therefore, all backporting stuff needed should be not forgotten and related bugs should be updated as

[openstack-dev] [nova] Nova API meeting

2014-09-11 Thread Christopher Yeoh
Hi, Just a reminder that the weekly Nova API meeting is being held tomorrow Friday UTC . We encourage cloud operators and those who use the REST API such as SDK developers and others who and are interested in the future of the API to participate. In other timezones the meeting is at: EST

[openstack-dev] [Neutron] [LBaaS] Packet flow between instances using a load balancer

2014-09-11 Thread Maish Saidel-Keesing
I am trying to find out how traffic currently flows went sent to an instance through a LB. Say I have the following scenario: RHA1 LB_A --> >-> LB_B --- RHB1 | | RHA2 ---|

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] Adding Nejc Saje to ceilometer-core

2014-09-11 Thread Angus Salkeld
On 10/09/2014 8:37 PM, "Julien Danjou" wrote: > > Hi, > > Nejc has been doing a great work and has been very helpful during the > Juno cycle and his help is very valuable. > > I'd like to propose that we add Nejc Saje to the ceilometer-core group. > > Please, dear ceilometer-core members, reply wi

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] Error in deploying ironicon Ubuntu 12.04

2014-09-11 Thread Lucas Alvares Gomes
Oh, it's because Precise doesn't have the docker.io package[1] (nor "docker"). AFAIK the -infra team is now using Trusty in gate, so it won't be a problem. But if you think that we should still support Ironic DevStack with Precise please file a bug about it so the Ironic team can take a look on th

Re: [openstack-dev] [FUEL] Re: SSL in Fuel.

2014-09-11 Thread Sebastian Kalinowski
I have some topics for [1] that I want to discuss: 1) Should we allow users to turn SSL on/off for Fuel master? I think we should since some users may don't care about SSL and enabling it will just make them unhappy (like warnings in browsers, expiring certs). 2) Will we allow users (in first

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar graduation (round 2) [was: Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting]

2014-09-11 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 09/10/2014 03:45 PM, Gordon Sim wrote: > On 09/10/2014 01:51 PM, Thierry Carrez wrote: >> I think we do need, as Samuel puts it, "some sort of durable >> message-broker/queue-server thing". It's a basic application building >> block. Some claim it's THE basic application building block, more use

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] SSL in Fuel

2014-09-11 Thread Evgeniy L
Hi, We definitely need a person who will help with design for the feature. Here is the list of open questions: 1. UI design for certificates uploading 2. CLI 3. diagnostic snapshot sanitising 4. REST API/DB design 5. background tasks for nailgun (?) 6. do we need separate container to certificat

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][neutron][cinder] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-11 Thread Sean Dague
On 09/10/2014 06:11 PM, Jay Pipes wrote: > > > On 09/10/2014 05:55 PM, Chris Friesen wrote: >> On 09/10/2014 02:44 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: >>> On Tue, Sep 09, 2014 at 05:14:43PM -0700, Stefano Maffulli wrote: >> I have the impression this idea has been circling around for a while

Re: [openstack-dev] Kilo Cycle Goals Exercise

2014-09-11 Thread Eoghan Glynn
> As you all know, there has recently been several very active discussions > around how to improve assorted aspects of our development process. One idea > that was brought up is to come up with a list of cycle goals/project > priorities for Kilo [0]. > > To that end, I would like to propose an e

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][neutron][cinder] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-11 Thread Sean Dague
On 09/11/2014 05:18 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 09:23:34AM +1000, Michael Still wrote: >> On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 8:11 AM, Jay Pipes wrote: >> >>> a) Sorting out the common code is already accounted for in Dan B's original >>> proposal -- it's a prerequisite for the spl

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [clients] [keystone] lack of retrying tokens leads to overall OpenStack fragility

2014-09-11 Thread Sean Dague
On 09/10/2014 08:46 PM, Jamie Lennox wrote: > > - Original Message - >> From: "Steven Hardy" >> To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" >> >> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 1:55:49 AM >> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [clients] [keystone] lack of retry

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [clients] [keystone] lack of retrying tokens leads to overall OpenStack fragility

2014-09-11 Thread Sean Dague
On 09/10/2014 11:55 AM, Steven Hardy wrote: > On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 10:14:32AM -0400, Sean Dague wrote: >> Going through the untriaged Nova bugs, and there are a few on a similar >> pattern: >> >> Nova operation in progress takes a while >> Crosses keystone token expiration time >> Timeout th

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][neutron][cinder] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-11 Thread Thierry Carrez
Sean Dague wrote: > [...] > Why don't we start with "let's clean up the virt interface and make it > more sane", as I don't think there is any disagreement there. If it's > going to take a cycle, it's going to take a cycle anyway (it will > probably take 2 cycles, realistically, we always underesti

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Bringing back auto-abandon

2014-09-11 Thread Ryan Brown
On 09/10/2014 06:32 PM, James E. Blair wrote: > James Polley writes: > Incidentally, that is the query in the "Wayward Changes" section of the > "Review Inbox" dashboard (thanks Sean!); for nova, you can see it here: > > > https://review.openstack.org/#/projects/openstack/nova,dashboards/impor

Re: [openstack-dev] [FUEL] Re: SSL in Fuel.

2014-09-11 Thread Simon Pasquier
Hi, On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Sebastian Kalinowski < [email protected]> wrote: > I have some topics for [1] that I want to discuss: > > 1) Should we allow users to turn SSL on/off for Fuel master? > I think we should since some users may don't care about SSL and > enabling it wi

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Plugable solution for running abstract commands on nodes

2014-09-11 Thread Evgeniy L
Hi, In most cases for plugin developers or fuel users it will be much easier to just write command which he wants to run on nodes instead of describing some abstract task which doesn't have any additional information/logic and looks like unnecessary complexity. But for complicated cases user will

[openstack-dev] [sahara] rss for specs

2014-09-11 Thread Sergey Lukjanov
Hi folks, you could subscribe to specs rss now - http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/sahara-specs/rss Thanks for the Doug Hellmann for implementing it. -- Sincerely yours, Sergey Lukjanov Sahara Technical Lead (OpenStack Data Processing) Principal Software Engineer Mirantis Inc. _

[openstack-dev] [Glance] Triage Bug Day Today!

2014-09-11 Thread Cindy Pallares
Hi Folks! Glance is having its bug triage day today! Please help out if you can. You can check out the tasks here: http://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glancebugday Also here are some handy links to the untriaged bugs in glance and the client: https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bugs?field.searc

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance] Triage Bug Day Today!

2014-09-11 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 09/11/2014 02:28 PM, Cindy Pallares wrote: > Hi Folks! > > Glance is having its bug triage day today! Please help out if you can. > You can check out the tasks here: > > http://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glancebugday > > Also here are some handy links to the untriaged bugs in glance and the > c

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] Adding Nejc Saje to ceilometer-core

2014-09-11 Thread gordon chung
> Nejc has been doing a great work and has been very helpful during the> Juno > cycle and his help is very valuable. > I'd like to propose that we add Nejc Saje to the ceilometer-core group.can we > minus because he makes me look bad? /sarcasm +1 for core. cheers, gord

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Experimental features and how they affect HCF

2014-09-11 Thread Anastasia Urlapova
> I think we should not count bugs for HCF criteria if they affect only > experimental feature(s). +1, absolutely agree, but we should determine count of allowed bugs for experimental features against severity. On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 2:13 PM, Nikolay Markov wrote: > Probably, even "experimenta

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][neutron][cinder] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-11 Thread Gary Kotton
On 9/11/14, 2:55 PM, "Thierry Carrez" wrote: >Sean Dague wrote: >> [...] >> Why don't we start with "let's clean up the virt interface and make it >> more sane", as I don't think there is any disagreement there. If it's >> going to take a cycle, it's going to take a cycle anyway (it will >> pro

Re: [openstack-dev] Kilo Cycle Goals Exercise

2014-09-11 Thread David Kranz
On 09/11/2014 07:32 AM, Eoghan Glynn wrote: As you all know, there has recently been several very active discussions around how to improve assorted aspects of our development process. One idea that was brought up is to come up with a list of cycle goals/project priorities for Kilo [0]. To that

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][neutron][cinder] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-11 Thread Andrew Laski
On 09/10/2014 07:23 PM, Michael Still wrote: On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 8:11 AM, Jay Pipes wrote: a) Sorting out the common code is already accounted for in Dan B's original proposal -- it's a prerequisite for the split. Its a big prerequisite though. I think we're talking about a release worth

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] Error in deploying ironicon Ubuntu 12.04

2014-09-11 Thread Jim Rollenhagen
On September 11, 2014 3:52:59 AM PDT, Lucas Alvares Gomes wrote: >Oh, it's because Precise doesn't have the docker.io package[1] (nor >"docker"). > >AFAIK the -infra team is now using Trusty in gate, so it won't be a >problem. But if you think that we should still support Ironic DevStack >with

Re: [openstack-dev] global-reqs on tooz pulls in worrisome transitive dep

2014-09-11 Thread Julien Danjou
On Tue, Sep 09 2014, Matt Riedemann wrote: > I noticed this change [1] today for global-requirements to require tooz [2] > for > a ceilometer blueprint [3]. > > The sad part is that tooz requires pymemcache [4] which is, from what I can > tell, a memcached client that is not the same as python-me

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Experimental features and how they affect HCF

2014-09-11 Thread Vladimir Kuklin
+1 On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 5:05 PM, Anastasia Urlapova wrote: > > I think we should not count bugs for HCF criteria if they affect only > > experimental feature(s). > > +1, absolutely agree, but we should determine count of allowed bugs for > experimental features against severity. > > On Thu, S

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Plugable solution for running abstract commands on nodes

2014-09-11 Thread Vladimir Kuklin
Let's not create architectural leaks here. Let there be only tasks, but let's create a really simple template for task that user will be able to easily fill only with the command itself. On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Evgeniy L wrote: > Hi, > > In most cases for plugin developers or fuel users

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] Adding Nejc Saje to ceilometer-core

2014-09-11 Thread Nadya Privalova
I'm in :) +1 On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 4:58 PM, gordon chung wrote: > > Nejc has been doing a great work and has been very helpful during the > > > Juno cycle and his help is very valuable. > > > I'd like to propose that we add Nejc Saje to the ceilometer-core group. > > can we minus because he ma

[openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] Adding Dina Belova to ceilometer-core

2014-09-11 Thread Julien Danjou
Hi, Dina has been doing a great work and has been very helpful during the Juno cycle and her help is very valuable. She's been doing a lot of reviews and has been very active in our community. I'd like to propose that we add Dina Belova to the ceilometer-core group, as I'm convinced it'll help th

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] Adding Dina Belova to ceilometer-core

2014-09-11 Thread Nadya Privalova
May I be the first :)? Big +1 from me. Thanks Dina! On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Julien Danjou wrote: > Hi, > > Dina has been doing a great work and has been very helpful during the > Juno cycle and her help is very valuable. She's been doing a lot of > reviews and has been very active in o

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][neutron][cinder] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-11 Thread Sean Dague
On 09/11/2014 09:09 AM, Gary Kotton wrote: > > > On 9/11/14, 2:55 PM, "Thierry Carrez" wrote: > >> Sean Dague wrote: >>> [...] >>> Why don't we start with "let's clean up the virt interface and make it >>> more sane", as I don't think there is any disagreement there. If it's >>> going to take a

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Experimental features and how they affect HCF

2014-09-11 Thread Mike Scherbakov
> +1, absolutely agree, but we should determine count of allowed bugs for experimental features against severity. Anastasia, can you please give an example? I think we should not count them at all. Experimental features, if they are isolated, they can be in any stated. May be just very beginning of

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][neutron][cinder] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-11 Thread Radoslav Gerganov
On 09/11/2014 04:30 PM, Sean Dague wrote: On 09/11/2014 09:09 AM, Gary Kotton wrote: On 9/11/14, 2:55 PM, "Thierry Carrez" wrote: Sean Dague wrote: [...] Why don't we start with "let's clean up the virt interface and make it more sane", as I don't think there is any disagreement there. If

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][neutron][cinder] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-11 Thread Duncan Thomas
On 11 September 2014 12:36, Sean Dague wrote: > I continue to not understand how N non overlapping teams makes this any > better. You have to pay the integration cost somewhere. Right now we're > trying to pay it 1 patch at a time. This model means the integration > units get much bigger, and wit

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Experimental features and how they affect HCF

2014-09-11 Thread Tomasz Napierala
On 11 Sep 2014, at 09:19, Mike Scherbakov wrote: > Hi all, > what about using "experimental" tag for experimental features? > > After we implemented feature groups [1], we can divide our features and for > complex features, or those which don't get enough QA resources in the dev > cycle, we c

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [clients] [keystone] lack of retrying tokens leads to overall OpenStack fragility

2014-09-11 Thread Duncan Thomas
On 11 September 2014 03:17, Angus Lees wrote: > (As inspired by eg kerberos) > 2. Ensure at some environmental/top layer that the advertised token lifetime > exceeds the timeout set on the request, before making the request. This > implies (since there's no special handling in place) failing if

[openstack-dev] [neutron][db] Need help resolving a strange error with db connections in tests

2014-09-11 Thread Anna Kamyshnikova
Hello everyone! I'm working on implementing test in Neutron that checks that models are synchronized with database state [1] [2]. This is very important change as during Juno cycle big changes of database structure were done. I was working on it for rather long time but about three weeks ago stra

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Experimental features and how they affect HCF

2014-09-11 Thread Anastasia Urlapova
Mike, i've just want to say, if feature isn't ready for production use and we have no other choice, we should provide detailed limitations and examples of proper use. On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 5:58 PM, Tomasz Napierala wrote: > > On 11 Sep 2014, at 09:19, Mike Scherbakov > wrote: > > > Hi all, >

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [clients] [keystone] lack of retrying tokens leads to overall OpenStack fragility

2014-09-11 Thread Steven Hardy
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 08:46:45PM -0400, Jamie Lennox wrote: > > - Original Message - > > From: "Steven Hardy" > > To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" > > > > Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 1:55:49 AM > > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [clients] [

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][neutron][cinder] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-11 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Rados, personally, i'd want a human to do the +W. Also the critieria would include a 3) which is the CI for the driver if applicable. On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 9:53 AM, Radoslav Gerganov wrote: > On 09/11/2014 04:30 PM, Sean Dague wrote: >> >> On 09/11/2014 09:09 AM, Gary Kotton wrote: >>> >>> >>>

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Experimental features and how they affect HCF

2014-09-11 Thread Mike Scherbakov
> Mike, i've just want to say, if feature isn't ready for production use and we have no other choice, we should provide detailed limitations and examples of proper use. Fully agree, such features should become experimental. We should have this information in release notes. Basically, Patching of O

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][neutron][cinder] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-11 Thread James Bottomley
On Thu, 2014-09-11 at 07:36 -0400, Sean Dague wrote: > >>> b) The conflict Dan is speaking of is around the current situation where > >>> we > >>> have a limited core review team bandwidth and we have to pick and choose > >>> which virt driver-specific features we will review. This leads to bad >

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][policy] Group-based Policy next steps

2014-09-11 Thread Robert Kukura
On 9/10/14, 6:54 PM, Kevin Benton wrote: Being in the incubator won't help with this if it's a different repo as well. Agreed. Given the requirement for GBP to intercept API requests, the potential couplings between policy drivers, ML2 mechanism drivers, and even service plugins (L3 router),

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] Adding Dina Belova to ceilometer-core

2014-09-11 Thread Eoghan Glynn
> Hi, > > Dina has been doing a great work and has been very helpful during the > Juno cycle and her help is very valuable. She's been doing a lot of > reviews and has been very active in our community. > > I'd like to propose that we add Dina Belova to the ceilometer-core > group, as I'm convi

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] referencing the index of a ResourceGroup

2014-09-11 Thread Jason Greathouse
My mistake about the mailing list, The openstack heat wiki page ( https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Heat) only lists the "dev" list. I will make sure to ask future usage questions on the other one. Thank you for the response and example. This is what I was missing. On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 3:21 AM,

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] Licensing issue with using JSHint in build

2014-09-11 Thread Solly Ross
Thanks! ESLint looks interesting. I'm curious to see what it says about the Horizon source. I'll keep it in mind for future personal projects and the like. Best Regards, Solly Ross - Original Message - > From: "Martin Geisler" > To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage q

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][neutron][cinder] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-11 Thread Gary Kotton
On 9/11/14, 4:30 PM, "Sean Dague" wrote: >On 09/11/2014 09:09 AM, Gary Kotton wrote: >> >> >> On 9/11/14, 2:55 PM, "Thierry Carrez" wrote: >> >>> Sean Dague wrote: [...] Why don't we start with "let's clean up the virt interface and make it more sane", as I don't think there

Re: [openstack-dev] Kilo Cycle Goals Exercise

2014-09-11 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2014-09-11 01:27:23 -0400 (-0400), Russell Bryant wrote: [...] > But seriously, we should probably put out a more official notice about > this once Kilo opens up. It's probably worth carrying in the release notes for all Juno servers... "This is the last release of OpenStack with official suppo

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][neutron][cinder] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-11 Thread Duncan Thomas
On 11 September 2014 15:35, James Bottomley wrote: > OK, so look at a concrete example: in 2002, the Linux kernel went with > bitkeeper precisely because we'd reached the scaling limit of a single > integration point, so we took the kernel from a single contributing team > to a bunch of them. Th

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] referencing the index of a ResourceGroup

2014-09-11 Thread Mike Spreitzer
Steven Hardy wrote on 09/11/2014 04:21:18 AM: > On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 04:44:01PM -0500, Jason Greathouse wrote: > >I'm trying to find a way to create a set of servers and attach a new > >volume to each server. > >... > > Basically creating lots of resource groups for related thin

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][neutron][cinder] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-11 Thread James Bottomley
On Thu, 2014-09-11 at 16:20 +0100, Duncan Thomas wrote: > On 11 September 2014 15:35, James Bottomley > wrote: > > > OK, so look at a concrete example: in 2002, the Linux kernel went with > > bitkeeper precisely because we'd reached the scaling limit of a single > > integration point, so we took

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] referencing the index of a ResourceGroup

2014-09-11 Thread Steven Hardy
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 10:06:01AM -0500, Jason Greathouse wrote: >My mistake about the mailing list, The openstack heat wiki page >(https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Heat) only lists the "dev" list. I will >make sure to ask future usage questions on the other one. No worries, we should

[openstack-dev] [sahara] team meeting Sep 11 1800 UTC

2014-09-11 Thread Sergey Lukjanov
Hi folks, We'll be having the Sahara team meeting as usual in #openstack-meeting-alt channel. Agenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/SaharaAgenda#Next_meetings http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Sahara+Meeting&iso=20140911T18 P.S. I'm on vacation this week, so, A

Re: [openstack-dev] anyone using RabbitMQ with active/active mirrored queues?

2014-09-11 Thread Chris Friesen
On 09/11/2014 12:50 AM, Jesse Pretorius wrote: On 10 September 2014 17:20, Chris Friesen mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: I see that the OpenStack high availability guide is still recommending the active/standby method of configuring RabbitMQ. Has anyone tried using activ

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] Adding Dina Belova to ceilometer-core

2014-09-11 Thread Ildikó Váncsa
Hi, +1 from me too, thanks for all the hard work so far. Best Regards, Ildikó -Original Message- From: Julien Danjou [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 3:25 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] Adding Dina Belova to c

Re: [openstack-dev] anyone using RabbitMQ with active/active mirrored queues?

2014-09-11 Thread Abel Lopez
Yes, not sure why the HA guide says that. Only problems I've run into was around cluster upgrades. If you're running 3.2+ you'll likely have a better experience. List ha_queues in all your configs, list all your rabbit hosts (I don't use a VIP as heartbeats weren't working when I did this) On Wed

[openstack-dev] [Neutron] Allow for per-subnet dhcp options

2014-09-11 Thread Jonathan Proulx
Hi All, I'm hoping to get this blueprint https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/dhcp-options-per-subnet some love...seems it's been hanging around since January so my assumption is it's not going anywhere. As a private cloud operator I make heavy use of vlan based provider networks to plu

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][policy] Group-based Policy next steps

2014-09-11 Thread Kevin Benton
Thanks. This is good writeup. >Of course this all assumes there is consensus that we should proceed with GBP, that we should continue by iterating the currently proposed design and code, and that GBP should eventually become part of Neutron. These assumptions may still be the real issues :-( . Un

Re: [openstack-dev] [Cinder] Request for J3 Feature Freeze Exception

2014-09-11 Thread Mike Perez
On 19:32 Fri 05 Sep , David Pineau wrote: > So I asked Duncan what could be done, learned about the FFE, and I am > now humbly asking you guys to give us a last chance to get in for > Juno. I was told that if it was possible the last delay would be next > week, and believe me, we're doing every

Re: [openstack-dev] [Cinder] Request for J3 FFE - add reset-state function for backups

2014-09-11 Thread Mike Perez
On 12:23 Tue 09 Sep , yunling wrote: > Hi Cinder Folks,I would like to request a FFE for add reset-state function > for backups[1][2].The spec of add reset-state function for backups has been > reviewed and merged[2]. These code changes have been well tested and are not > very complex[3]. I

Re: [openstack-dev] [Cinder] Request for J3 Feature Freeze Exception

2014-09-11 Thread Duncan Thomas
Mike This FFE request was withdraw. I updated the etherpad but didn't mail the list, sorry On 11 September 2014 18:07, Mike Perez wrote: > On 19:32 Fri 05 Sep , David Pineau wrote: >> So I asked Duncan what could be done, learned about the FFE, and I am >> now humbly asking you guys to give

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][policy] Group-based Policy next steps

2014-09-11 Thread Mandeep Dhami
I agree with Kevin. Any option in-tree or in-incubator would need core review time, and they are already oversubscribed with nova parity issues (for Juno). So the only option to continue collaboration on experimenting with policy based networking on current openstack is on stackforge (option 5). S

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][neutron][cinder] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-11 Thread Sean Dague
On 09/11/2014 11:14 AM, Gary Kotton wrote: > > > On 9/11/14, 4:30 PM, "Sean Dague" wrote: > >> On 09/11/2014 09:09 AM, Gary Kotton wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 9/11/14, 2:55 PM, "Thierry Carrez" wrote: >>> Sean Dague wrote: > [...] > Why don't we start with "let's clean up the virt inter

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][policy] Group-based Policy next steps

2014-09-11 Thread Stephen Wong
I agree with Kevin. Like in Juno, we as a subteam will be shooting for option 1 (again) for Kilo - ideally we can land in Kilo, and we will work closely with the community to try to accomplish that. In the meantime, we need to have a repo to iterate our implementations, build package (Juno based) t

[openstack-dev] [Trove] Cluster implementation is grabbing instance's gutsHi guys, I was looking through the clustering code today and noticed a lot of it is grabbing what I'd call the guts of the ins

2014-09-11 Thread Tim Simpson
Hi everyone, I was looking through the clustering code today and noticed a lot of it is grabbing what I'd call the guts of the instance models code. The best example is here: https://github.com/openstack/trove/commit/06196fcf67b27f0308381da192da5cc8ae65b157#diff-a4d09d28bd2b650c2327f5d8d81be3a9

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-11 Thread Dan Prince
On Thu, 2014-09-04 at 11:24 +0100, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > Position statement > == > > Over the past year I've increasingly come to the conclusion that > Nova is heading for (or probably already at) a major crisis. If > steps are not taken to avert this, the project is likely t

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][neutron][cinder] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-11 Thread Armando M.
On 10 September 2014 22:23, Russell Bryant wrote: > On 09/10/2014 10:35 PM, Armando M. wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I devoured this thread, so much it was interesting and full of >> insights. It's not news that we've been pondering about this in the >> Neutron project for the past and existing cycle or so.

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-11 Thread Chris Friesen
On 09/11/2014 12:02 PM, Dan Prince wrote: Maybe I'm impatient (I totally am!) but I see much of the review slowdown as a result of the feedback loop times increasing over the years. OpenStack has some really great CI and testing but I think our focus on not breaking things actually has us painte

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar graduation (round 2) [was: Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting]

2014-09-11 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Flavio Percoco's message of 2014-09-11 04:14:30 -0700: > On 09/10/2014 03:45 PM, Gordon Sim wrote: > > On 09/10/2014 01:51 PM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > >> I think we do need, as Samuel puts it, "some sort of durable > >> message-broker/queue-server thing". It's a basic application buil

Re: [openstack-dev] [zaqar] Juno Performance Testing (Round 2)

2014-09-11 Thread Devananda van der Veen
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 6:09 PM, Kurt Griffiths wrote: > On 9/10/14, 3:58 PM, "Devananda van der Veen" > wrote: > >>I'm going to assume that, for these benchmarks, you configured all the >>services optimally. > > Sorry for any confusion; I am not trying to hide anything about the setup. > I thoug

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Experimental features and how they affect HCF

2014-09-11 Thread Anastasia Urlapova
QA-agree. -- nurla On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 6:28 PM, Mike Scherbakov wrote: > > Mike, i've just want to say, if feature isn't ready for production use > and we have no other choice, we should provide detailed limitations and > examples of proper use. > Fully agree, such features should become ex

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Working on 6.0 and new releases in general

2014-09-11 Thread Roman Vyalov
Mike, 2 jobs for Icehouse and Juno equal 2 different repository with packages for Fuel 6.0. This can be problem for current osci workflow. For example: We need building new packages. Which repository we must put packages? to icehouse or/and Juno ? if new packages will break icehouse repository, bu

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