Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][NFV] NFV BoF at design summit

2014-05-22 Thread Dmitry
Hi Isaku, Thank you for the updated link. I'n not sure where from I get the previous one, probably from the direct Google search. If we're talking about NFV Mano, it's very important to keep NFVO and VNFM as a separate services, where VNFM might be (and probably will be) supplied jointly with a ven

Re: [openstack-dev] [Murano] BP Review for J1

2014-05-22 Thread Dmitry
Any possibility to move the session to Monday (May 26)? On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Serg Melikyan wrote: > We will held BP review for milestone 1 of Juno release at 15:00 UTC on May > 23. > > Please, join us and vote for features that you are interested in! > -- > Serg Melikyan, Senior Soft

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] handling drivers that will not be third-party tested

2014-05-22 Thread Lucas Alvares Gomes
On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 1:03 AM, Devananda van der Veen wrote: > I'd like to bring up the topic of drivers which, for one reason or another, > are probably never going to have third party CI testing. > > Take for example the iBoot driver proposed here: > https://review.openstack.org/50977 > > I

[openstack-dev] [Neutron] Need help to start contribute to Neutron

2014-05-22 Thread Li, Chen
Hi list, I have using Openstack/Neutron for a while. And now I hope I can do some contributions too. But neutron is too complicated, I don't know where to start. In IRC, iwamoto suggested me to work with developer doc team. That sounds like a good idea. But I still doesn't know what/where I shoul

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Core API refactoring

2014-05-22 Thread Salvatore Orlando
On 22 May 2014 03:47, Mandeep Dhami wrote: > Hi Salvatore: > > Comments inline as well > > ​> ​ > This is a bit obscure to me. I read it as you're hinting the core team or > part of it has double standards. > ​> ​ > In that case I would invite you to clarify. > > ​Last week, I had requested refer

Re: [openstack-dev] [Storyboard] [UX] Atlanta Storyboard UX Summary

2014-05-22 Thread Thierry Carrez
Angus Salkeld wrote: > On 21/05/14 13:32 -0700, Michael Krotscheck wrote: >> I've compiled a list of takeaways from the one-on-one ux sessions that we >> did at the Atlanta Summit. These comments aren't exhaustive - they're the >> big items that came up over and over again. If you'd like to review

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Need help to start contribute to Neutron

2014-05-22 Thread Rossella Sblendido
Hello chen, You are already doing great, using irc and the mailing list is a good start. Let me give you some links that can help you ramping up: Neutron development: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/NeutronDevelopment If you wanna contribute fixing some bug I suggest you have a look at the low

Re: [openstack-dev] [infra] Nominating Nikita Konovalov for storyboard-core

2014-05-22 Thread Thierry Carrez
James E. Blair wrote: > Nikita Konovalov has been reviewing changes to both storyboard and > storyboard-webclient for some time. He is the second most active > storyboard reviewer and is very familiar with the codebase (having > written a significant amount of the server code). He regularly provi

[openstack-dev] OpenStack Beijing Meetup on May 24th

2014-05-22 Thread Hua ZZ Zhang
Hi ALL, The 2nd OpenStack Beijing meetup is opened for registration. Welcome to join us! Title: OpenStack Beijing Meetup on May 24th http://www.meetup.com/China-OpenStack-User-Group/events/182091162/ Theme:OpenStack Atlanta Summit Guests: Jeffrey Yang, Jian Hua Geng, Edward Zhang, Vincent Hou

Re: [openstack-dev] [infra] Gerrit downtime on May 23 for project renames

2014-05-22 Thread Thierry Carrez
James E. Blair wrote: > openstack/oslo-specs -> openstack/common-libraries-specs I understand (and agree with) the idea that -specs repositories should be per-program. That said, you could argue that "oslo" is a shorthand for "common libraries" and is the code name for the *program* (rather than

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][QoS] Weekly IRC Meeting?

2014-05-22 Thread Irena Berezovsky
+1 to attend, Regards, Irena -Original Message- From: Collins, Sean [mailto:sean_colli...@cable.comcast.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 5:59 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][QoS] Weekly IRC Meeting? Hi, The sessio

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo][nova] how to best deal with default periodic task spacing behavior

2014-05-22 Thread Matthew Gilliard
We (HP Helion) are completely fine with a change that reduces server load and makes things more predictable. It would have been very hard to rely heavily on the old behaviour. Thanks for adding me to the patch, too, Matt Matthew On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 4:40 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > On Tue

[openstack-dev] [openstack-php-sdk] Testing proposal

2014-05-22 Thread Jamie Hannaford
Hey everyone, Based on our conversation in irc yesterday, I’m detailing a few proposals for the way we handle testing. Before that, I want to establish the terminology so we’re all on the same page. In a software project like this, there are generally three types of tests: unit tests, integrati

Re: [openstack-dev] [Storyboard] [UX] Atlanta Storyboard UX Summary

2014-05-22 Thread Sean Dague
On 05/22/2014 05:28 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > Angus Salkeld wrote: >> On 21/05/14 13:32 -0700, Michael Krotscheck wrote: >>> I've compiled a list of takeaways from the one-on-one ux sessions that we >>> did at the Atlanta Summit. These comments aren't exhaustive - they're the >>> big items that c

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Spec Template Change Proposal

2014-05-22 Thread Derek Higgins
On 21/05/14 22:56, James Slagle wrote: > On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 4:37 PM, Jay Dobies wrote: >> Currently, there is the following in the template: >> >> >> >> Proposed change >> === >> >> [snip] >> >> Alternatives >> >> >> [snip] >> >> Security impact >> --- >>

Re: [openstack-dev] [horizon] Static file handling -- followup

2014-05-22 Thread Matthias Runge
On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 05:18:18PM +0200, Radomir Dopieralski wrote: > Hello, > > this is a followup on the design session we had at the meeting about > the handling of static files. You can see the etherpad from that session > here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/juno-summit-horizon-static-file

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] handling drivers that will not be third-party tested

2014-05-22 Thread Dmitry Tantsur
On Thu, 2014-05-22 at 09:48 +0100, Lucas Alvares Gomes wrote: > On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 1:03 AM, Devananda van der Veen > wrote: > > I'd like to bring up the topic of drivers which, for one reason or another, > > are probably never going to have third party CI testing. > > > > Take for example the

[openstack-dev] [sahara] Deleting cluster in sahara horizon, 500 Error occured in nova.

2014-05-22 Thread cosmos cosmos
Hello My name is inhye park from samsung SDS. I am a developer about nova and sahara. Recently Our system updated to icehouse. After deleting cluster in sahara, VM occurred 500 error. But this problem not occur in nova cli command. Only in sahara this error occurred. This is error log. -

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] handling drivers that will not be third-party tested

2014-05-22 Thread Sergey Lukjanov
IMO the separated did in the project repo is a good approach (like contrib dir in Heat). On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 3:13 PM, Dmitry Tantsur wrote: > On Thu, 2014-05-22 at 09:48 +0100, Lucas Alvares Gomes wrote: >> On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 1:03 AM, Devananda van der Veen >> wrote: >> > I'd like to br

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Need help to start contribute to Neutron

2014-05-22 Thread Gary Kotton
Hi, I would suggest the following: 1. Look at the bugs and see if there is any low hanging fruit - https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.tag=low-hanging-fruit 2. Try and add some additional unit tests – pick a section of code that interests you and try and see that it has some good

Re: [openstack-dev] [All] Disabling Pushes of new Gerrit Draft Patchsets

2014-05-22 Thread Sergey Lukjanov
Great, I think it'll make CRs more consistent, especially from the reviewers PoV. On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 3:24 AM, Clark Boylan wrote: > Hello everyone, > > Gerrit has long supported "Draft" patchsets, and the infra team has long > recommended against using them as they are a source of bugs and >

[openstack-dev] [sahara] team meeting May 22 1800 UTC

2014-05-22 Thread Sergey Lukjanov
Hi folks, We'll be having the Sahara team meeting as usual in #openstack-meeting-alt channel. Agenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/SaharaAgenda#Agenda_for_May.2C_22 http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Sahara+Meeting&iso=20140522T18 -- Sincerely yours, Sergey L

Re: [openstack-dev] [sahara] Deleting cluster in sahara horizon, 500 Error occured in nova.

2014-05-22 Thread SMIGIELSKI, Radoslaw (Radoslaw)
Looks like one or more of your VMs get stuck and libvirt having problems to stop it now: 2014-05-22 20:06:42.631 25640 TRACE oslo.messaging.rpc.dispatcher if ret == -1: raise libvirtError ('virDomainDestroy() failed', dom=self) 2014-05-22 20:06:42.631 25640 TRACE oslo.messaging.rpc.dispatch

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] handling drivers that will not be third-party tested

2014-05-22 Thread Joe Gordon
On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 1:48 AM, Lucas Alvares Gomes wrote: > On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 1:03 AM, Devananda van der Veen > wrote: > > I'd like to bring up the topic of drivers which, for one reason or > another, > > are probably never going to have third party CI testing. > > > > Take for example th

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] handling drivers that will not be third-party tested

2014-05-22 Thread Lucas Alvares Gomes
> Linux has a very different model then OpenStack does, the article you > mention is talking about a whole separate git repo, along with a separate > (re: just OR, not exclusive or) set of maintainers. If you leave these > drivers in a staging directory would you still require two cores for the > c

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] strutils: enhance safe_decode() and safe_encode()

2014-05-22 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 21/05/14 11:32 -0400, Doug Hellmann wrote: On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 11:41 AM, Victor Stinner wrote: Hi, The functions safe_decode() and safe_encode() have been ported to Python 3, and changed more than once. IMO we can still improve these functions to make them more reliable and easier to us

Re: [openstack-dev] [relmgt] Proposed Juno release schedule

2014-05-22 Thread Thierry Carrez
Thierry Carrez wrote: > At the Design Summit last week we discussed the Juno release schedule > and came up with the following proposal: > > https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Juno_Release_Schedule > > The main reported issue with it is the presence of the US labor day > weekend just before juno-3 (

Re: [openstack-dev] [gate] failing postgres jobs

2014-05-22 Thread Sergey Lukjanov
Thanks for the confirmation. On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 12:18 AM, Nikhil Manchanda wrote: > Yes, this issue is fixed now that 94315 is merged. > > > On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 3:38 PM, Sergey Lukjanov > wrote: >> >> As I see, the 94315 merged atm, is the issue fixed? >> >> >> On Tuesday, May 20, 2014,

Re: [openstack-dev] [UX] OpenStack UX - IRC meeting

2014-05-22 Thread Sergey Lukjanov
Thanks for the reminder, it's very interesting for Sahara. P.S. /me adding Chad directly (he's working on sahara@horizon). On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 4:12 PM, Jaromir Coufal wrote: > Hello everybody interested in UX, > > for one more time, I am reminding that there is ongoing survey for times > whi

Re: [openstack-dev] [infra] Nominating Sergey Lukjanov for infra-root

2014-05-22 Thread Anita Kuno
On 05/21/2014 05:42 PM, James E. Blair wrote: > The Infrastructure program has a unique three-tier team structure: > contributors (that's all of us!), core members (people with +2 ability > on infra projects in Gerrit) and root members (people with > administrative access). Read all about it here:

Re: [openstack-dev] [infra] Nominating Joshua Hesketh for infra-core

2014-05-22 Thread Anita Kuno
On 05/21/2014 05:57 PM, James E. Blair wrote: > The Infrastructure program has a unique three-tier team structure: > contributors (that's all of us!), core members (people with +2 ability > on infra projects in Gerrit) and root members (people with > administrative access). Read all about it here:

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack] [Keystone] Help extending Keystone JSON documents with custom attributes, safe?

2014-05-22 Thread Phillip Guerin
To be a bit more succinct, if I PATCH existing Keystone JSON documents (projects, roles, users, etc) with my own custom JSON attributes, can I expect this to be a safe practice? Meaning, I'd like to add my own custom attributes and be able to query them back at a later time when I look up the

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Spec Template Change Proposal

2014-05-22 Thread Jay Dobies
Merging a few of the replies into a single response: > I like all of this plan, except for the name "Overview". To me, "Overview" suggests a high-level summary rather than being "one of the beefier sections of a spec". Something like "Detail" or "Detailed overview" (because the low-level detai

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][NFV] NFV BoF at design summit

2014-05-22 Thread Steve Gordon
- Original Message - > From: "Kevin Benton" > To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" > > Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 2:48:37 AM > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][NFV] NFV BoF at design summit > > >3. OpenStack itself should ( its own Compute Node/L3

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Proposed changes to core team

2014-05-22 Thread Robert Kukura
On 5/21/14, 4:59 PM, Kyle Mestery wrote: Neutron cores, please vote +1/-1 for the proposed addition of Carl Baldwin to Neutron core. +1 -Bob ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailm

[openstack-dev] VM performance of Openstack launched over Esxi

2014-05-22 Thread Rakesh Sinha
Hi, I am using Openstack Havana Setup with Esxi as Compute Node. I launch two VMs with identical configuration over the Esxi -> one via Openstack and other manually via vSphere Client. VM launched over Esxi manually via vSphere Client performs better than one via Openstack over Esxi. I am talkin

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] handling drivers that will not be third-party tested

2014-05-22 Thread Dan Prince
- Original Message - > From: "Devananda van der Veen" > To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List" > Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 8:03:15 PM > Subject: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] handling drivers that will not be > third-party tested > > I'd like to bring up the topic of drivers which,

Re: [openstack-dev] [infra] Gerrit downtime on May 23 for project renames

2014-05-22 Thread James E. Blair
Thierry Carrez writes: > James E. Blair wrote: >> openstack/oslo-specs -> openstack/common-libraries-specs > > I understand (and agree with) the idea that -specs repositories should > be per-program. > > That said, you could argue that "oslo" is a shorthand for "common > libraries" and is the cod

Re: [openstack-dev] [Storyboard] [UX] Atlanta Storyboard UX Summary

2014-05-22 Thread James E. Blair
Sean Dague writes: > It's worth noting, most (>90%) of OpenStack developers aren't trying to > land or track features across projects. And realistically, in my > experience working code into different repositories, the blueprint / bug > culture between projects varies widely (what requires and ar

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Core API refactoring

2014-05-22 Thread Collins, Sean
On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 10:47:16PM EDT, Mandeep Dhami wrote: > The update from Sean seem to suggest to me that we needed blueprints only > if the public API changes, and not for design changes that are internal to > neutron. There was no statement in my e-mail that made that suggestion. My e-mail

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] [neutron] [trove] [swift] Uniform name for logger in projects

2014-05-22 Thread Jason Dunsmore
(Adding relevant projects to subject. Hope I didn't miss any.) Heat, Neutron, Trove, and Swift devs, Do we want to change all instances of "logger" variable names to "LOG" (like most OpenStack projects use) and enforce that via the hacking rules? Regards, Jason On Wed, May 21 2014, Sergey Kra

Re: [openstack-dev] [Barbican][OSSG][Keystone] Mid-Cycle Meetup

2014-05-22 Thread David Stanek
On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 10:48 AM, Jarret Raim wrote: > > This should make travel a bit easier for everyone as people won't need Hey Jarret, I'm going to be at the Keystone meetup for sure, but I'm also thinking about going to the Barbican meetup too. -- David blog: http://www.traceback.org tw

[openstack-dev] [Barbican][OSSG][Keystone] Mid-Cycle Meetup

2014-05-22 Thread Jarret Raim
All, There was some interest at the Summit in semi-combining the mid-cycle meet ups for Barbican, Keystone and the OSSG as there is some overlap in team members and interest areas. The current dates being considered are: Mon, July 7 - Barbican Tue, July 8 - Barbican Wed, July 9 - Barbican / Keyst

Re: [openstack-dev] Extending nova models

2014-05-22 Thread Solly Ross
Actually, that line you linked to about IMPL is a bit misleading. In this case, under the hood IMPL is really just the sqlalchemy implementation of the Nova db api at https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/db/sqlalchemy/api.py#L2404. In Nova we don't "insert a row in to a table" per

Re: [openstack-dev] [Murano] BP Review for J1

2014-05-22 Thread Serg Melikyan
Dmitry, we actually need to move meeting to another day, since not all people from our core team is yet returned from OpenStack Summit. BP Review for milestone 1 of Juno release will be held on Tuesday, June 3 at 15:00 UTC. I hope it works for you too. On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 12:44 PM, Dmitry wr

Re: [openstack-dev] [Mistral] Cleaning up configuration settings

2014-05-22 Thread Renat Akhmerov
I tend to disagree with the whole idea. Not sure 100% though yet. Could you please explain the point of scattering configuration all over the code? In my opinion, we’re mixing different application concerns. With the current approach I always know where to look at in order to find all my configu

Re: [openstack-dev] Manual VM migration

2014-05-22 Thread Diego Parrilla Santamaría
Yep, wrong order. You are right. Thanks! -- Diego Parrilla *CEO* *www.stackops.com | * diego.parri...@stackops.com | +34 91 005-2164 | skype:diegoparrilla On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 11:53 PM, CARVER, PAUL wrote: > Are you sure steps 1 and

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Haproxy configuration options

2014-05-22 Thread Dmitriy Shulyak
Created spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/94907/ I think it is WIP still, but would be nice to hear some comments/opinions On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 1:59 AM, Robert Collins wrote: > On 18 May 2014 08:17, Miller, Mark M (EB SW Cloud - R&D - Corvallis) > wrote: > > We are considering the follo

Re: [openstack-dev] Manual VM migration

2014-05-22 Thread Diego Parrilla Santamaría
Hi Naveed, I don't think it's a good idea to suspend/pause. If you want to keep the state of the VM then have a look at the live migration capabilities of KVM. Our script is very simple and works for any VM without attached block storage. Here goes the little script. Keep in mind it's something v

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Haproxy configuration options

2014-05-22 Thread Miller, Mark M (EB SW Cloud - R&D - Corvallis)
HAProxy SSL termination is not a viable option when HAProxy is used to proxy traffic between servers. If HAProxy terminates the SSL it will then proxy the traffic unencrypted to any other server across a network. However, since SSL termination and SSL re-encryption are now features of the curre

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-security] [Barbican][OSSG][Keystone] Mid-Cycle Meetup

2014-05-22 Thread Nathan Kinder
On 05/22/2014 07:48 AM, Jarret Raim wrote: > All, > > There was some interest at the Summit in semi-combining the mid-cycle meet > ups for Barbican, Keystone and the OSSG as there is some overlap in team > members and interest areas. The current dates being considered are: > > Mon, July 7 - Bar

Re: [openstack-dev] [infra] Gerrit downtime on May 23 for project renames

2014-05-22 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 10:16 AM, James E. Blair wrote: > Thierry Carrez writes: > >> James E. Blair wrote: >>> openstack/oslo-specs -> openstack/common-libraries-specs >> >> I understand (and agree with) the idea that -specs repositories should >> be per-program. >> >> That said, you could argue

Re: [openstack-dev] [infra] Gerrit downtime on May 23 for project renames

2014-05-22 Thread Kyle Mestery
On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 1:52 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: > Excerpts from Tom Fifield's message of 2014-05-21 21:39:22 -0700: >> On 22/05/14 11:06, Kyle Mestery wrote: >> > On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Tom Fifield wrote: >> >> On 22/05/14 05:48, James E. Blair wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Tom Fifield writ

Re: [openstack-dev] [infra] Gerrit downtime on May 23 for project renames

2014-05-22 Thread Sergey Lukjanov
BTW I'm working on preparing all changes for this renaming session. On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 8:05 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 10:16 AM, James E. Blair > wrote: >> Thierry Carrez writes: >> >>> James E. Blair wrote: openstack/oslo-specs -> openstack/common-libraries-s

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Haproxy configuration options

2014-05-22 Thread Gregory Haynes
On Thu, May 22, 2014, at 08:51 AM, Miller, Mark M (EB SW Cloud - R&D - Corvallis) wrote: > > HAProxy SSL termination is not a viable option when HAProxy is used to > proxy traffic between servers. If HAProxy terminates the SSL it will then > proxy the traffic unencrypted to any other server across

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] reservation of fixed ip

2014-05-22 Thread Fuente, Pablo A
Hi, I'm part of a project that aims to manage Reservations on OpenStack. Maybe this could be implemented on it. The name of the project is Blazar (ex Climate). Currently we have two reservation plugins: one for physical host reservations and other for virtual instances reservation. We are p

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] reservation of fixed ip

2014-05-22 Thread Nikolay Starodubtsev
Hi, I'm agree with Pablo. We've looked at Neutron resource reservations some time ago. But we can't decide which resources should be reserved and this question has been delayed. Nikolay Starodubtsev Software Engineer Mirantis Inc. Skype: dark_harlequine1 2014-05-22 10:00 GMT-07:00 Fuente,

[openstack-dev] [Fuel] Hard code freeze 5.0 announcement

2014-05-22 Thread Mike Scherbakov
Stackers, according to https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Fuel/Hard_Code_Freeze, we call for a HCF. It will take some time to switch all required CI infrastructure to handle both stable/5.0 (which was just created), and master branches. Since now, master is open for merges of everything deferred to

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] handling drivers that will not be third-party tested

2014-05-22 Thread Dean Troyer
On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 9:05 AM, Dan Prince wrote: > - Original Message - > > From: "Devananda van der Veen" > > [...] > > interface. However, I also don't expect the author to provide a full > > third-party CI environment, and as such, we should not claim the same > level > > of test cov

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] reservation of fixed ip

2014-05-22 Thread Sławek Kapłoński
Hello Dnia Wed, 21 May 2014 23:51:48 +0100 Salvatore Orlando napisał: > In principle there is nothing that should prevent us from > implementing an IP reservation mechanism. > > As with anything, the first thing to check is literature or "related > work"! If any other IaaS system is implementi

[openstack-dev] [NFV][Neutron] Link to patch/review for allowing instances to receive vlan tagged traffic

2014-05-22 Thread Steve Gordon
Hi Alan/Balazs, In one of the NFV BoF sessions in Atlanta one of you (I assume one of you anyway!) noted in the etherpad [1] (line 89) that Ericsson had submitted a patch to Neutron which would allow instances to use tagged vlan traffic. Do you happen to have a link handy to the review for this

[openstack-dev] [neutron][group-based-policy] Should we revisit the priority of group-based policy?

2014-05-22 Thread Maru Newby
At the summit session last week for group-based policy, there were many concerns voiced about the approach being undertaken. I think those concerns deserve a wider audience, and I'm going to highlight some of them here. The primary concern seemed to be related to the complexity of the approach

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] reservation of fixed ip

2014-05-22 Thread Sławek Kapłoński
Hello, Thanks for answears and info about this project - I will take a look on that for sure :) For me now reservation of fixed ips is enough and I don't know what else can be reserved in neutron. Floating IP you can now assign to tenant and this is some kind of reservation. Maybe someone else wil

Re: [openstack-dev] [Barbican][OSSG][Keystone] Mid-Cycle Meetup

2014-05-22 Thread Dolph Mathews
On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Jarret Raim wrote: > All, > > There was some interest at the Summit in semi-combining the mid-cycle meet > ups for Barbican, Keystone and the OSSG as there is some overlap in team > members and interest areas. The current dates being considered are: > > Mon, July 7

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Haproxy configuration options

2014-05-22 Thread Miller, Mark M (EB SW Cloud - R&D - Corvallis)
That depends on your security requirements. If HAProxy is proxying requests to multiple servers and you terminate the SSL at HAProxy, then you will be sending the request unencrypted from one server to another. I am not at all opposed to adding the capabilities to configure HAProxy to terminate

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][group-based-policy] Should we revisit the priority of group-based policy?

2014-05-22 Thread Maru Newby
On May 22, 2014, at 11:03 AM, Maru Newby wrote: > At the summit session last week for group-based policy, there were many > concerns voiced about the approach being undertaken. I think those concerns > deserve a wider audience, and I'm going to highlight some of them here. > > The primary co

[openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS]TLS API support for authentication

2014-05-22 Thread Samuel Bercovici
Hi Everone, I would like to defer addressing client authentication and back-end-server authentication for a 2nd phase - after Juno. This means that from looking on https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-lbaas-ssl-l7 , under the "SSL/TLS Termination capabilities", not addressing 2.2 and 3. I t

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][group-based-policy] Should we revisit the priority of group-based policy?

2014-05-22 Thread Armando M.
I would second Maru's concerns, and I would also like to add the following: We need to acknowledge the fact that there are certain architectural aspects of Neutron as a project that need to be addressed; at the summit we talked about the core refactoring, a task oriented API, etc. To me these item

Re: [openstack-dev] [NFV][Neutron] Link to patch/review for allowing instances to receive vlan tagged traffic

2014-05-22 Thread Yi Sun
Is this the one? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/92541/ On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 11:04 AM, Steve Gordon wrote: > Hi Alan/Balazs, > > In one of the NFV BoF sessions in Atlanta one of you (I assume one of you > anyway!) noted in the etherpad [1] (line 89) that Ericsson had submitted a > patch to

Re: [openstack-dev] [Mistral] Cleaning up configuration settings

2014-05-22 Thread W Chan
Renat, I want to avoid having to explicitly import the mistral.config module in order to have configuration loaded properly. The problem with the way mistral.config is coded is that we have to use importutils otherwise we get pep8 error if we simply insert "from mistral import config". An exampl

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] handling drivers that will not be third-party tested

2014-05-22 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 4:48 AM, Lucas Alvares Gomes wrote: > On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 1:03 AM, Devananda van der Veen > wrote: >> I'd like to bring up the topic of drivers which, for one reason or another, >> are probably never going to have third party CI testing. >> >> Take for example the iBoo

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] specs & blueprints for juno

2014-05-22 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 9:28 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > We agreed just before the summit that we wanted to participate in the > specs repository experiments for this cycle. The repository is set up > [1] and I've just posted a review for an updated template [2] that > includes some sections added

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS]TLS API support for authentication

2014-05-22 Thread Eichberger, German
Hi Sam, I totally agree - this will definitely reduce our scope and increase the chance of getting this in. I am still (being influenced by Unix methodology) thinking that we should explore service chaining more for that. As I said earlier, re-encryption feels more like a VPN type thing than a

Re: [openstack-dev] [infra] Gerrit downtime on May 23 for project renames

2014-05-22 Thread Sergey Lukjanov
I've published all renaming changes, here is an etherpad [1] with the list of them. All of the changes are in one chain to avoid merge conflicts, oslo-specs renaming is the last one in chain if we'll decide to keep it as is. [1] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/repo-renaming-2014-05-23 Thanks. O

Re: [openstack-dev] [NFV][Neutron] Link to patch/review for allowing instances to receive vlan tagged traffic

2014-05-22 Thread ZZelle
The associated neutron specs: https://review.openstack.org/94612 On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 8:55 PM, Yi Sun wrote: > Is this the one? > https://review.openstack.org/#/c/92541/ > > > On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 11:04 AM, Steve Gordon wrote: > >> Hi Alan/Balazs, >> >> In one of the NFV BoF sessions in

Re: [openstack-dev] NFV BoF at design summit

2014-05-22 Thread Alan Kavanagh
+1 I believe the main point is not to confuse what we is need on the Hypervisor and networking but focus on what we need Openstack to support to be a robust and reliable system, for example most systems aim for 5 9's due to various requirements but what they really want to aim for us "predictab

Re: [openstack-dev] Link to patch/review for allowing instances to receive vlan tagged traffic

2014-05-22 Thread Alan Kavanagh
Hi Steven More than happy to help out here: The BP in question is this, patches have been submitted 3 weeks ago by Erik Moe: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/vlan-aware-vms https://review.openstack.org/#/c/92541/ This is a generic feature a lot of Telco traffic nodes have and eve

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-docs] [Heat][Documentation] Heat template documentation

2014-05-22 Thread Anne Gentle
On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 6:42 PM, Steve Baker wrote: > On 21/05/14 02:31, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Gauvain > Pocentek > wrote: > > Le 2014-05-16 17:13, Anne Gentle a écrit : > > > On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Gauvain > Pocentek > wrote: > > > Hello,

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][group-based-policy] Should we revisit the priority of group-based policy?

2014-05-22 Thread Mandeep Dhami
Maru's concerns are that: 1. It is large 2. It is complex And Armando's related concerns are: 3. Could dev/review cycles be better spent on refactoring 4. If refactored neutron was available, would a simpler option become more viable Let me address them in that order. 1. Re: It is large Group po

Re: [openstack-dev] Manual VM migration

2014-05-22 Thread Naveed Ahmad
Hi, Thanks for response and sharing script. Can i use this script with devstack based cloud platform.? Actually Live Migration is available between inter-cluster. so that why i was talking about the suspend/pause the VM before migration. Regards On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 8:45 PM, Diego Parri

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-docs] [Heat][Documentation] Heat template documentation

2014-05-22 Thread Steve Baker
On 23/05/14 08:56, Anne Gentle wrote: > > > > On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 6:42 PM, Steve Baker > wrote: > > On 21/05/14 02:31, Doug Hellmann wrote: >> On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Gauvain Pocentek >> >> wrote: >>>

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Use of environment variables in tripleo-incubator

2014-05-22 Thread Ben Nemec
For everyone's awareness, Alexis proposed a spec related to this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/94910 -Ben On 05/20/2014 05:05 PM, James Polley wrote: > I spoke to JP offline and confirmed that the link to 85418 should have been > a link to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/88252 > > I think t

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] reservation of fixed ip

2014-05-22 Thread Carl Baldwin
If an IP is reserved for a tenant, should the tenant need to explicitly ask for that specific IP to be allocated when creating a floating ip or port? And it would pull from the regular pool if a specific IP is not requested. Or, does the allocator just pull from the tenant's reserved pool wheneve

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Default routes to SNAT gateway in DVR

2014-05-22 Thread Carl Baldwin
Hi, I found this message in my backlog from when I was at the summit. Sorry for the delay in responding. The "default SNAT" or "dynamic SNAT" use case is one of the last details being worked in the DVR subteam. That may be why you do not see any code around this in the patches that have been sub

[openstack-dev] [TripleO] CI needs YOU

2014-05-22 Thread Clint Byrum
Ahoy there, TripleO interested parties. In the last few months, we've gotten a relatively robust, though not nearly complete, CI system for TripleO. It is a bit unorthodox, as we have a strong desire to ensure PXE booting works, and that requires us running in our own cloud. We have this working,

[openstack-dev] [QA] Tempest Release Naming

2014-05-22 Thread Matthew Treinish
Hi Everyone, So I was preparing to push the first tag as part of the move to a world with a branchless tempest and was trying to figure out the naming convention we should be using. The only complexity here is that we are targeting to do 4 releases a year that coincide with the OpenStack releases

[openstack-dev] [Neutron] Introducing task oriented workflows

2014-05-22 Thread Salvatore Orlando
As most of you probably know already, this is one of the topics discussed during the Juno summit [1]. I would like to kick off the discussion in order to move towards a concrete design. Preamble: Considering the meat that's already on the plate for Juno, I'm not advocating that whatever comes out

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][QoS] Weekly IRC Meeting?

2014-05-22 Thread Itsuro ODA
Hi, I am interested in the meeting but cannot participate (it's 3:00am). I will check the meeting log later. BTW, where do you begin a discussion ? I thought you countinue work in Icehose. Or do you argue from the beginning of the API definition ? Thanks. Itsuro Oda (oda-g) On Wed, 21 May 201

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][FWaaS]Firewall Web Services Research Thesis Applicability to the OpenStack Project

2014-05-22 Thread Mike Grima
Hello, Just to make sure I understand: 1.) I’m assuming that you can dilettante which policies apply to specific VM’s within a group (Is this correct?). With regards to DENY permissions, they are handled specially. In such a case, all other VM’s are provided with ALLOW permissions for that r

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Core API refactoring

2014-05-22 Thread Mandeep Dhami
OK On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 7:36 AM, Collins, Sean < sean_colli...@cable.comcast.com> wrote: > On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 10:47:16PM EDT, Mandeep Dhami wrote: > > The update from Sean seem to suggest to me that we needed blueprints only > > if the public API changes, and not for design changes that

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][group-based-policy] Should we revisit the priority of group-based policy?

2014-05-22 Thread Maru Newby
On May 22, 2014, at 1:59 PM, Mandeep Dhami wrote: > > Maru's concerns are that: > 1. It is large > 2. It is complex As per the discussion in the irc meeting today, I hope it is clear now that eventual size and complexity are not real issue. Rather, I am concerned at how we get there. I ke

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][group-based-policy] Should we revisit the priority of group-based policy?

2014-05-22 Thread Adam Young
On 05/22/2014 07:03 PM, Maru Newby wrote: On May 22, 2014, at 1:59 PM, Mandeep Dhami wrote: Maru's concerns are that: 1. It is large 2. It is complex As per the discussion in the irc meeting today, I hope it is clear now that eventual size and complexity are not real issue. Rather, I am con

[openstack-dev] Gate and Skipped Tests

2014-05-22 Thread Johannes Erdfelt
I noticed recently that some tests are being skipped in the Nova gate. Some will always be skipped, but others are conditional. In particular the ZooKeeper driver tests are being skipped because an underlying python module is missing. It seems to me that we should want no tests to be conditional

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][group-based-policy] Should we revisit the priority of group-based policy?

2014-05-22 Thread Mandeep Dhami
> each patch needs to receive core reviewer attention and that subsequent patches incorporate their feedback. At least two core neutron members were involved in creating the PoC, and at least two more cores were involved in reviews at various times. In addition to them, senior developers from at l

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][group-based-policy] Should we revisit the priority of group-based policy?

2014-05-22 Thread Maru Newby
On May 22, 2014, at 4:35 PM, Mandeep Dhami wrote: > > each patch needs to receive core reviewer attention and that subsequent > > patches incorporate their feedback. > > At least two core neutron members were involved in creating the PoC, and at > least two more cores were involved in reviews

Re: [openstack-dev] [infra] Gerrit downtime on May 23 for project renames

2014-05-22 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2014-05-21 23:52:14 -0700 (-0700), Clint Byrum wrote: > You didn't also ask them to subscribe to the users and/or operators > mailing lists? I would think at least one of those two lists would be > quite important for users to stay in the loop about the effort. [...] It's also worth noting that

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Introducing task oriented workflows

2014-05-22 Thread Nachi Ueno
Hi Salvatore Thank you for your posting this. IMO, this topic shouldn't be limited for Neutron only. Users wants consistent API between OpenStack project, right? In Nova, a server has task_state, so Neutron should do same way. 2014-05-22 15:34 GMT-07:00 Salvatore Orlando : > As most of you pr

Re: [openstack-dev] [infra] Nominating Nikita Konovalov for storyboard-core

2014-05-22 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2014-05-21 14:31:24 -0700 (-0700), James E. Blair wrote: [...] > Nikita, thank you very much for your work! Absolutely! I am wholeheartedly in favor of this proposal. -- Jeremy Stanley ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][group-based-policy] Should we revisit the priority of group-based policy?

2014-05-22 Thread Mandeep Dhami
OK. On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 5:13 PM, Maru Newby wrote: > > On May 22, 2014, at 4:35 PM, Mandeep Dhami > wrote: > > > > each patch needs to receive core reviewer attention and that > subsequent patches incorporate their feedback. > > > > At least two core neutron members were involved in creati

Re: [openstack-dev] [infra] Nominating Sergey Lukjanov for infra-root

2014-05-22 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2014-05-21 14:42:16 -0700 (-0700), James E. Blair wrote: [...] > Sergey has been an extremely valuable member of infra-core for some time > now, providing reviews on a wide range of infrastructure projects which > indicate a growing familiarity with the large number of complex systems > that mak

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