Re: [openstack-dev] Gamification and on-boarding ...

2014-02-14 Thread Ben Nemec
On 2014-02-14 13:48, Russell Bryant wrote: On 02/13/2014 08:53 AM, Sean Dague wrote: The delays on reviews for relatively trivial fixes I think is something that is probably more demotivating to new folks than the lack of badges. So some ability to keep on top of that I think would be really gre

Re: [openstack-dev] Gamification and on-boarding ...

2014-02-14 Thread Russell Bryant
On 02/13/2014 08:53 AM, Sean Dague wrote: > The delays on reviews for relatively trivial fixes I think is > something that is probably more demotivating to new folks than the > lack of badges. So some ability to keep on top of that I think > would be really great. Sure, I agree. I still think bad

Re: [openstack-dev] Gamification and on-boarding ...

2014-02-14 Thread Joshua Harlow
+1 Mentoring and devoted mentors and not demotivating new folks (but instead "growing" and fostering them) is IMHO 10x more important than a badge program. Badges seem nice and all but I think it's not the "biggest win for the buck". Sent from my really tiny device... > On Feb 13, 2014, at 6:0

Re: [openstack-dev] Gamification and on-boarding ...

2014-02-13 Thread Mike Spreitzer
> From: Sean Dague ... > Realistically, the biggest issue I see with on-boarding is mentoring > time. Especially with folks completely new to our structure, there is a > lot of confusing things going on. And OpenStack is a ton to absorb. I > get pinged a lot on IRC, answer when I can, and sometime

Re: [openstack-dev] Gamification and on-boarding ...

2014-02-13 Thread Anne Gentle
On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 7:53 AM, Sean Dague wrote: > On 02/13/2014 05:37 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > > Sandy Walsh wrote: > >> The informal OpenStack motto is "automate everything", so perhaps we > should consider some form of gamification [1] to help us? Can we offer > badges, quests and challen

Re: [openstack-dev] Gamification and on-boarding ...

2014-02-13 Thread Robert Collins
On 14 February 2014 02:53, Sean Dague wrote: > So it seems like the only way we'd make real progress here is to get a > chunk of people to devote some dedicated time to mentoring in the next > cycle. Gamification might be most useful, but honestly I expect a "Start > Here" page with the consolida

Re: [openstack-dev] Gamification and on-boarding ...

2014-02-13 Thread Sergey Lukjanov
+1, nice idea, it could be really funny. agreed with Thierry's note about automation. On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 5:53 PM, Sean Dague wrote: > On 02/13/2014 05:37 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > > Sandy Walsh wrote: > >> The informal OpenStack motto is "automate everything", so perhaps we > should con

Re: [openstack-dev] Gamification and on-boarding ...

2014-02-13 Thread Sean Dague
On 02/13/2014 05:37 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > Sandy Walsh wrote: >> The informal OpenStack motto is "automate everything", so perhaps we should >> consider some form of gamification [1] to help us? Can we offer badges, >> quests and challenges to new users to lead them on the way to being stron

Re: [openstack-dev] Gamification and on-boarding ...

2014-02-13 Thread Thierry Carrez
Sandy Walsh wrote: > The informal OpenStack motto is "automate everything", so perhaps we should > consider some form of gamification [1] to help us? Can we offer badges, > quests and challenges to new users to lead them on the way to being strong > contributors? > > "Fixed your first bug" badg

Re: [openstack-dev] Gamification and on-boarding ...

2014-02-13 Thread iKhan
+1 to Rohit. I am new too and looking forward to help in cinder part of OpenStack for starters. On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 12:36 PM, Rohit Vaidya wrote: > I am new to open stack and python. But I really liked the live community > here and great suggestions that crop up. This one is seriously good

Re: [openstack-dev] Gamification and on-boarding ...

2014-02-12 Thread Rohit Vaidya
I am new to open stack and python. But I really liked the live community here and great suggestions that crop up. This one is seriously good and helps new people stay motivated. I installed dev stack on my sluggish laptop and that's all. Could not move any further. Looking forward to taking the nex

Re: [openstack-dev] Gamification and on-boarding ...

2014-02-12 Thread wu jiang
+1. This looks very interesting. :) On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 2:09 PM, Russell Bryant wrote: > On 02/12/2014 11:35 AM, Ben Nemec wrote: > > On 2014-02-12 12:00, Sandy Walsh wrote: > >> At the Nova mid-cycle meetup we've been talking about the problem of > >> helping new contributors. It got into

Re: [openstack-dev] Gamification and on-boarding ...

2014-02-12 Thread Russell Bryant
On 02/12/2014 11:35 AM, Ben Nemec wrote: > On 2014-02-12 12:00, Sandy Walsh wrote: >> At the Nova mid-cycle meetup we've been talking about the problem of >> helping new contributors. It got into a discussion of karma, code >> reviews, bug fixes and establishing a name for yourself before >> scream

Re: [openstack-dev] Gamification and on-boarding ...

2014-02-12 Thread Ben Nemec
On 2014-02-12 12:00, Sandy Walsh wrote: At the Nova mid-cycle meetup we've been talking about the problem of helping new contributors. It got into a discussion of karma, code reviews, bug fixes and establishing a name for yourself before screaming in a chat room "can someone look at my branch". W

Re: [openstack-dev] Gamification and on-boarding ...

2014-02-12 Thread Sanchez, Cristian A
I¹m kind of new in Openstack. +1 to this On 12/02/14 15:00, "Sandy Walsh" wrote: >At the Nova mid-cycle meetup we've been talking about the problem of >helping new contributors. It got into a discussion of karma, code >reviews, bug fixes and establishing a name for yourself before screaming >i