Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] use of the "oslo" namespace package

2014-04-08 Thread Julien Danjou
On Tue, Apr 08 2014, Doug Hellmann wrote: > I would like for us to continue to use the oslo prefix in some cases, > because it makes naming simple libraries easier but more importantly > because it is an indicator that we intend those libraries to be much > more useful to OpenStack projects than t

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] use of the "oslo" namespace package

2014-04-08 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Julien Danjou wrote: > On Tue, Apr 08 2014, Doug Hellmann wrote: > >> I would like for us to continue to use the oslo prefix in some cases, >> because it makes naming simple libraries easier but more importantly >> because it is an indicator that we intend those li

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] use of the "oslo" namespace package

2014-04-08 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 3:28 AM, Mark McLoughlin wrote: > On Mon, 2014-04-07 at 15:24 -0400, Doug Hellmann wrote: >> We can avoid adding to the problem by putting each new library in its >> own package. We still want the Oslo name attached for libraries that >> are really only meant to be used by O

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] use of the "oslo" namespace package

2014-04-08 Thread Doug Hellmann
Donald linked to a pip bug later in this thread, so we might be able to help by working on a fix. I haven't investigated that, but I assume if it was easy the pypa team would have already fixed it. When you saw the problem, were you running a current version of devstack with Sean's change to insta

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] use of the "oslo" namespace package

2014-04-08 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 6:12 AM, Victor Stinner wrote: > Hi, > > Le mardi 8 avril 2014, 10:54:24 Julien Danjou a écrit : >> On Mon, Apr 07 2014, Doug Hellmann wrote: >> > We can avoid adding to the problem by putting each new library in its >> > own package. We still want the Oslo name attached for

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] use of the "oslo" namespace package

2014-04-08 Thread Thierry Carrez
Vishvananda Ishaya wrote: > I dealt with this myself the other day and it was a huge pain. That said, > changing all the packages seems like a nuclear option. Yeah, package renaming is usually a huge pain for distributions, and we already forced them through some oslo reversioning/renaming process

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] use of the "oslo" namespace package

2014-04-08 Thread Victor Stinner
Hi, Le mardi 8 avril 2014, 10:54:24 Julien Danjou a écrit : > On Mon, Apr 07 2014, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > We can avoid adding to the problem by putting each new library in its > > own package. We still want the Oslo name attached for libraries that > > are really only meant to be used by OpenSta

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] use of the "oslo" namespace package

2014-04-08 Thread Julien Danjou
On Mon, Apr 07 2014, Doug Hellmann wrote: > We can avoid adding to the problem by putting each new library in its > own package. We still want the Oslo name attached for libraries that > are really only meant to be used by OpenStack projects, and so we need > a naming convention. I'm not entirely

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] use of the "oslo" namespace package

2014-04-08 Thread Donald Stufft
On Apr 8, 2014, at 3:28 AM, Mark McLoughlin wrote: > On Mon, 2014-04-07 at 15:24 -0400, Doug Hellmann wrote: >> We can avoid adding to the problem by putting each new library in its >> own package. We still want the Oslo name attached for libraries that >> are really only meant to be used by Ope

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] use of the "oslo" namespace package

2014-04-08 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Mon, 2014-04-07 at 15:24 -0400, Doug Hellmann wrote: > We can avoid adding to the problem by putting each new library in its > own package. We still want the Oslo name attached for libraries that > are really only meant to be used by OpenStack projects, and so we need > a naming convention. I'm

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] use of the "oslo" namespace package

2014-04-07 Thread Vishvananda Ishaya
I dealt with this myself the other day and it was a huge pain. That said, changing all the packages seems like a nuclear option. Is there any way we could change python that would make it smarter about searching multiple locations for namespace packages? Vish On Apr 7, 2014, at 12:24 PM, Doug Hel