Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] [all] TC Report 18-10

2018-03-08 Thread Joshua Harlow
Thierry Carrez wrote: Joshua Harlow wrote: Thierry Carrez wrote: The PTG has always been about taking the team discussions that happened at the Ops Summit / Design Summit to have them in a more productive environment. I am just going to say it but can we *please* stop distinguishing between op

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] [all] TC Report 18-10

2018-03-08 Thread Thierry Carrez
Joshua Harlow wrote: > Thierry Carrez wrote: >> The PTG has always been about taking the team discussions that happened >> at the Ops Summit / Design Summit to have them in a more productive >> environment. > > I am just going to say it but can we *please* stop distinguishing > between ops and dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] [all] TC Report 18-10

2018-03-08 Thread Joshua Harlow
Thierry Carrez wrote: Matt Riedemann wrote: I don't get the inward/outward thing. First two days of the old design summit (ops summit?) format was all cross-project stuff (docs, upgrades, testing, ops feedback, etc). That's the same as what happens at the PTG now too. The last three days of the

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] [all] TC Report 18-10

2018-03-08 Thread Thierry Carrez
Matt Riedemann wrote: > I don't get the inward/outward thing. First two days of the old design > summit (ops summit?) format was all cross-project stuff (docs, upgrades, > testing, ops feedback, etc). That's the same as what happens at the PTG > now too. The last three days of the old design summit

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] [all] TC Report 18-10

2018-03-07 Thread Matt Riedemann
On 3/7/2018 2:24 PM, Lance Bragstad wrote: I tried bringing this up during the PTG feedback session last Thursday Unless you wanted to talk about snow, there was no feedback to be had at the feedback session. Being able to actually give feedback on the PTG during the PTG feedback session is

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] [all] TC Report 18-10

2018-03-07 Thread Graham Hayes
On 07/03/18 20:24, Lance Bragstad wrote: > > > On 03/07/2018 06:12 AM, Chris Dent wrote: >> >> HTML: https://anticdent.org/tc-report-18-10.html >> >> This is a TC Report, but since everything that happened in its window >> of observation is preparing for the >> [PTG](https://www.openstack.org/p

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] [all] TC Report 18-10

2018-03-07 Thread Lance Bragstad
On 03/07/2018 06:12 AM, Chris Dent wrote: > > HTML: https://anticdent.org/tc-report-18-10.html > > This is a TC Report, but since everything that happened in its window > of observation is preparing for the > [PTG](https://www.openstack.org/ptg), being at the PTG, trying to get > home from the PT

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] [all] TC Report 18-10

2018-03-07 Thread Matt Riedemann
On 3/7/2018 6:12 AM, Chris Dent wrote: # Talking about the PTG at the PTG At the [board meeting](http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/foundation/2018-March/002570.html), the future of the PTG was a big topic. As currently constituted it presents some challenges: * It is difficult for some pe

[openstack-dev] [tc] [all] TC Report 18-10

2018-03-07 Thread Chris Dent
HTML: https://anticdent.org/tc-report-18-10.html This is a TC Report, but since everything that happened in its window of observation is preparing for the [PTG](https://www.openstack.org/ptg), being at the PTG, trying to get home from the PTG, and recovering from the PTG, perhaps think of this a