Re: [openstack-dev] anyone using RabbitMQ with active/active mirrored queues?

2014-09-10 Thread Jesse Pretorius
On 10 September 2014 17:20, Chris Friesen wrote: > I see that the OpenStack high availability guide is still recommending the > active/standby method of configuring RabbitMQ. > > Has anyone tried using active/active with mirrored queues as recommended > by the RabbitMQ developers? If so, what pr

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar graduation (round 2) [was: Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting]

2014-09-10 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 09/10/2014 03:18 PM, Gordon Sim wrote: > On 09/10/2014 09:58 AM, Flavio Percoco wrote: >> To clarify the doubts of what Zaqar is or it's not, let me quote what's >> written in the project's overview section[0]: >> >> "Zaqar is a multi-tenant cloud messaging service for web developers. > > H

Re: [openstack-dev] [WSME] Complex Type Validation Issue On Deserialization

2014-09-10 Thread Brandon Logan
Fixed the issue and it's a boneheaded one as I suspected. I need to initialize the type ala wtypes.IPv4AddressType() instead of just wtypes.IPv4AddressType. Does appear that the validation for the IPv4AddressType has a bug where is should return the value, but there is no return at all. Thanks,

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] [nova] non-deterministic gate failures due to unclosed eventlet Timeouts

2014-09-10 Thread Miguel Angel Ajo Pelayo
Good catch John, and good work Angus! ;) This will save a lot of headaches. - Original Message - > On Mon, 8 Sep 2014 05:25:22 PM Jay Pipes wrote: > > On 09/07/2014 10:43 AM, Matt Riedemann wrote: > > > On 9/7/2014 8:39 AM, John Schwarz wrote: > > >> Hi, > > >> > > >> Long story short: f

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] nova-specs for Kilo?

2014-09-10 Thread Joe Cropper
Thanks! Exactly what I was looking for. On Sep 11, 2014, at 12:38 AM, Russell Bryant wrote: > On 09/11/2014 01:32 AM, Joe Cropper wrote: >> Hi Folks, >> >> Just wondering if the nova-specs master branch will have a ‘kilo’ >> directory created soon for Kilo proposals? I have a few things I’d li

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] nova-specs for Kilo?

2014-09-10 Thread Russell Bryant
On 09/11/2014 01:32 AM, Joe Cropper wrote: > Hi Folks, > > Just wondering if the nova-specs master branch will have a ‘kilo’ > directory created soon for Kilo proposals? I have a few things I’d like > to submit, just looking for the proper home. There's some more info on that here: http://lists.

[openstack-dev] [nova] nova-specs for Kilo?

2014-09-10 Thread Joe Cropper
Hi Folks, Just wondering if the nova-specs master branch will have a ‘kilo’ directory created soon for Kilo proposals? I have a few things I’d like to submit, just looking for the proper home. Thanks, Joe ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@

Re: [openstack-dev] anyone using RabbitMQ with active/active mirrored queues?

2014-09-10 Thread Jesse Pretorius
> On 10 Sep 2014, at 5:20 PM, Chris Friesen wrote: > > Has anyone tried using active/active with mirrored queues as recommended by > the RabbitMQ developers? If so, what problems did you run into? We've been running like that for over a year, with the only ___

Re: [openstack-dev] Kilo Cycle Goals Exercise

2014-09-10 Thread Russell Bryant
On 09/11/2014 12:52 AM, Angus Lees wrote: > So easy/obvious it probably isn't even worth mentioning: > > Drop support for python2.6 Yeah, that's been the plan. We discussed this at the Juno summit and representatives from most (all?) distributions carrying OpenStack were there. Dropping in Kilo

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][neutron][cinder] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-10 Thread Russell Bryant
On 09/10/2014 10:35 PM, Armando M. wrote: > Hi, > > I devoured this thread, so much it was interesting and full of > insights. It's not news that we've been pondering about this in the > Neutron project for the past and existing cycle or so. > > Likely, this effort is going to take more than two

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] [nova] non-deterministic gate failures due to unclosed eventlet Timeouts

2014-09-10 Thread Angus Lees
On Mon, 8 Sep 2014 05:25:22 PM Jay Pipes wrote: > On 09/07/2014 10:43 AM, Matt Riedemann wrote: > > On 9/7/2014 8:39 AM, John Schwarz wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> Long story short: for future reference, if you initialize an eventlet > >> Timeout, make sure you close it (either with a context manager

Re: [openstack-dev] Kilo Cycle Goals Exercise

2014-09-10 Thread Angus Lees
So easy/obvious it probably isn't even worth mentioning: Drop support for python2.6 -- - Gus ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

[openstack-dev] [WSME] Complex Type Validation Issue On Deserialization

2014-09-10 Thread Brandon Logan
I'm having an issue where incoming validation of a complex type with a an attribute of type IPv4Address is failing validation when it is a correct ipv4 address. Same is happening for UuidType and IPv6AddressType. I am using using Pecan with WSME 0.6.1 and python 2.7.6. Complex Type: class Loa

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][neutron][cinder] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-10 Thread Armando M.
Hi, I devoured this thread, so much it was interesting and full of insights. It's not news that we've been pondering about this in the Neutron project for the past and existing cycle or so. Likely, this effort is going to take more than two cycles, and would require a very focused team of people

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting

2014-09-10 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On 09/10/2014 12:56 PM, Monty Taylor wrote: > I reject soundly and fundamentally the idea that Open Source projects > NEED a commercial ecosystem to provide solid quality software. That's not what I said. I said that assuring the quality of code on a public repository is not necessarily something

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [clients] [keystone] lack of retrying tokens leads to overall OpenStack fragility

2014-09-10 Thread Angus Lees
On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 10:14:32 AM Sean Dague wrote: > Going through the untriaged Nova bugs, and there are a few on a similar > pattern: > > Nova operation in progress takes a while > Crosses keystone token expiration time > Timeout thrown > Operation fails > Terrible 500 error sent back to user

Re: [openstack-dev] [zaqar] Juno Performance Testing (Round 2)

2014-09-10 Thread Kurt Griffiths
On 9/10/14, 3:58 PM, "Devananda van der Veen" wrote: >I'm going to assume that, for these benchmarks, you configured all the >services optimally. Sorry for any confusion; I am not trying to hide anything about the setup. I thought I was pretty transparent about the way uWSGI, MongoDB, and Redis

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [clients] [keystone] lack of retrying tokens leads to overall OpenStack fragility

2014-09-10 Thread Jamie Lennox
- Original Message - > From: "Steven Hardy" > To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" > > Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 1:55:49 AM > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [clients] [keystone] lack of retrying > tokens leads to overall OpenStack fragility >

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][neutron][cinder] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-10 Thread Michael Still
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 8:11 AM, Jay Pipes wrote: > a) Sorting out the common code is already accounted for in Dan B's original > proposal -- it's a prerequisite for the split. Its a big prerequisite though. I think we're talking about a release worth of work to get that right. I don't object to

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Server Groups - remove VM from group?

2014-09-10 Thread Joe Cropper
Agreed - I’ll draft up a formal proposal in the next week or two and we can focus the discussion there. Thanks for the feedback - this provides a good framework for implementation considerations. - Joe On Sep 10, 2014, at 6:00 PM, Russell Bryant wrote: > On 09/10/2014 06:46 PM, Joe Cropper wr

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Server Groups - remove VM from group?

2014-09-10 Thread Joe Cropper
+1, Chris. I think the key thing here is that such race conditions can already happen if timed just right, unless there’s been some additional checks put in place in the compute API layer since I last scanned the code. We could even look at some x-process locking mechanisms as well if we think

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Server Groups - remove VM from group?

2014-09-10 Thread Russell Bryant
On 09/10/2014 06:46 PM, Joe Cropper wrote: > Hmm, not sure I follow the concern, Russell. How is that any different > from putting a VM into the group when it’s booted as is done today? > This simply defers the ‘group insertion time’ to some time after > initial the VM’s been spawned, so I’m not

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][policy] Group-based Policy next steps

2014-09-10 Thread Kevin Benton
Being in the incubator won't help with this if it's a different repo as well. On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 7:22 AM, Robert Kukura wrote: > > On 9/9/14, 7:51 PM, Jay Pipes wrote: > >> On 09/09/2014 06:57 PM, Kevin Benton wrote: >> >>> Hi Jay, >>> >>> The main component that won't work without direct i

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Server Groups - remove VM from group?

2014-09-10 Thread Chris Friesen
On 09/10/2014 04:16 PM, Russell Bryant wrote: On Sep 10, 2014, at 2:03 PM, Joe Cropper wrote: I would like to craft up a blueprint proposal for Kilo to add two simple extensions to the existing server group APIs that I believe will make them infinitely more usable in any ‘real world’ scenari

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Server Groups - remove VM from group?

2014-09-10 Thread Joe Cropper
Hmm, not sure I follow the concern, Russell. How is that any different from putting a VM into the group when it’s booted as is done today? This simply defers the ‘group insertion time’ to some time after initial the VM’s been spawned, so I’m not sure this creates anymore race conditions than w

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][neutron][cinder] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-10 Thread Chris Friesen
On 09/10/2014 04:11 PM, Jay Pipes wrote: On 09/10/2014 05:55 PM, Chris Friesen wrote: If each hypervisor team mostly only modifies their own code, why would there be conflict? As I see it, the only causes for conflict would be in the shared code, and you'd still need to sort out the issues wi

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Bringing back auto-abandon

2014-09-10 Thread James E. Blair
James Polley writes: > On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 6:52 AM, James E. Blair wrote: > >> Steven Hardy writes: >> >> > Yeah, I don't know what the optimal solution is - my attention has >> recently >> > been drawn to queries generated via gerrit-dash-creator, which I'm >> finding >> > help a lot. >> >

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Server Groups - remove VM from group?

2014-09-10 Thread Russell Bryant
> On Sep 10, 2014, at 2:03 PM, Joe Cropper wrote: > > I agree, Chris. I think a number of folks put in a lot of really great work > into the existing server groups and there has been a lot of interest on their > usage, especially given that the scheduler already has some constructs in > pla

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][neutron][cinder] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-10 Thread Jay Pipes
On 09/10/2014 05:55 PM, Chris Friesen wrote: On 09/10/2014 02:44 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Tue, Sep 09, 2014 at 05:14:43PM -0700, Stefano Maffulli wrote: I have the impression this idea has been circling around for a while but for some reason or another (like lack of capabilities in

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][neutron][cinder] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-10 Thread Chris Friesen
On 09/10/2014 02:44 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Tue, Sep 09, 2014 at 05:14:43PM -0700, Stefano Maffulli wrote: I have the impression this idea has been circling around for a while but for some reason or another (like lack of capabilities in gerrit and other reasons) we never tried to impl

[openstack-dev] [Heat] referencing the index of a ResourceGroup

2014-09-10 Thread Jason Greathouse
I'm trying to find a way to create a set of servers and attach a new volume to each server. I first tried to use block_device_mapping but that requires an existing snapshot or volume and the deployment would fail when Rackspace intermittently timed out trying to create the new volume from a snapsh

Re: [openstack-dev] [release] client release deadline - Sept 18th

2014-09-10 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Sep 10, 2014, at 5:20 PM, Brant Knudson wrote: > > > On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 4:19 PM, Sean Dague wrote: > As we try to stabilize OpenStack Juno, many server projects need to get > out final client releases that expose new features of their servers. > While this seems like not a big deal, ea

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Bringing back auto-abandon

2014-09-10 Thread James Polley
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 6:52 AM, James E. Blair wrote: > Steven Hardy writes: > > > Yeah, I don't know what the optimal solution is - my attention has > recently > > been drawn to queries generated via gerrit-dash-creator, which I'm > finding > > help a lot. > > This is one of several great solu

Re: [openstack-dev] [release] client release deadline - Sept 18th

2014-09-10 Thread Brant Knudson
On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 4:19 PM, Sean Dague wrote: > As we try to stabilize OpenStack Juno, many server projects need to get > out final client releases that expose new features of their servers. > While this seems like not a big deal, each of these clients releases > ends up having possibly desta

Re: [openstack-dev] adding RSS feeds to specs repositories

2014-09-10 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Sep 10, 2014, at 5:05 PM, Chmouel Boudjnah wrote: > Doug Hellmann writes: > >> I have completed a series of patches [1] for (I think) all of the >> specs repositories to add RSS feeds so that when specs are approved >> and merged they are easily publicized. > > Col, thanks for setting

Re: [openstack-dev] adding RSS feeds to specs repositories

2014-09-10 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Sep 10, 2014, at 5:07 PM, James E. Blair wrote: > Doug Hellmann writes: > >> I originally thought we would want to add these feeds to >> planet.openstack.org, but given the length of some of the specs I’m >> less sure of that. Instead, now I think it would be better to >> publicize the list

Re: [openstack-dev] adding RSS feeds to specs repositories

2014-09-10 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah
Doug Hellmann writes: > I have completed a series of patches [1] for (I think) all of the > specs repositories to add RSS feeds so that when specs are approved > and merged they are easily publicized. Col, thanks for setting this up. [...] > I originally thought we would want to add these

Re: [openstack-dev] Treating notifications as a contract

2014-09-10 Thread Chris Dent
On Wed, 10 Sep 2014, Jay Pipes wrote: There would be an Oslo library that would store the codification of the resource classes and actions, along with the mapping of (resource_class, action, version) to the JSONSchema document describing the payload field. This seems reasonable with two cave

Re: [openstack-dev] adding RSS feeds to specs repositories

2014-09-10 Thread James E. Blair
Doug Hellmann writes: > I originally thought we would want to add these feeds to > planet.openstack.org, but given the length of some of the specs I’m > less sure of that. Instead, now I think it would be better to > publicize the list of URLs for people who want to subscribe to some or > all of

Re: [openstack-dev] how to provide tests environments for python things that require C extensions

2014-09-10 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Sep 10, 2014, at 4:34 PM, Yuriy Taraday wrote: > > > On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 9:58 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > On Sep 9, 2014, at 10:51 AM, Sean Dague wrote: > > > On 09/09/2014 10:41 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > >> > >> On Sep 8, 2014, at 8:18 PM, James E. Blair wrote: > >> > >>> Sean Da

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Server Groups - remove VM from group?

2014-09-10 Thread Joe Cropper
I agree, Chris. I think a number of folks put in a lot of really great work into the existing server groups and there has been a lot of interest on their usage, especially given that the scheduler already has some constructs in place to piggyback on them. I would like to craft up a blueprint p

Re: [openstack-dev] [zaqar] Juno Performance Testing (Round 2)

2014-09-10 Thread Devananda van der Veen
On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 12:19 PM, Kurt Griffiths wrote: > Hi folks, > > In this second round of performance testing, I benchmarked the new Redis > driver. I used the same setup and tests as in Round 1 to make it easier to > compare the two drivers. I did not test Redis in master-slave mode, but > t

[openstack-dev] adding RSS feeds to specs repositories

2014-09-10 Thread Doug Hellmann
I have completed a series of patches [1] for (I think) all of the specs repositories to add RSS feeds so that when specs are approved and merged they are easily publicized. The feeds are generated using a new sphinx plugin yasfb ("yet another sphinx feed builder”). There is no need to explicitl

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Bringing back auto-abandon

2014-09-10 Thread James E. Blair
Steven Hardy writes: > Yeah, I don't know what the optimal solution is - my attention has recently > been drawn to queries generated via gerrit-dash-creator, which I'm finding > help a lot. This is one of several great solutions to the problem. Any query in Gerrit can include an age specifier.

Re: [openstack-dev] how to provide tests environments for python things that require C extensions

2014-09-10 Thread Yuriy Taraday
On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 9:58 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > On Sep 9, 2014, at 10:51 AM, Sean Dague wrote: > > > On 09/09/2014 10:41 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > >> > >> On Sep 8, 2014, at 8:18 PM, James E. Blair wrote: > >> > >>> Sean Dague writes: > >>> > The crux of the issue is that zookee

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] expected behaviour of _report_state() on rabbitmq failover

2014-09-10 Thread Chris Friesen
On 09/10/2014 02:13 PM, Chris Friesen wrote: As it stands, it seems that waiting for the RPC call to time out blocks _report_state() from running again in report_interval seconds, which delays the service update until the RPC timeout period expires. Just noticed something... In the case of

Re: [openstack-dev] Kilo Cycle Goals Exercise

2014-09-10 Thread Jay Pipes
On 09/03/2014 11:37 AM, Joe Gordon wrote: As you all know, there has recently been several very active discussions around how to improve assorted aspects of our development process. One idea that was brought up is to come up with a list of cycle goals/project priorities for Kilo [0]. To that end

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-10 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2014-09-10 12:19:08 -0700 (-0700), Vishvananda Ishaya wrote: > I don’t think this is a viable option for us, but if we were going > to do it, we would probably be better off using > https://code.google.com/p/rietveld/ as a base, since it is > actually written in python. The proposal floated in

[openstack-dev] [nova] expected behaviour of _report_state() on rabbitmq failover

2014-09-10 Thread Chris Friesen
Hi, I'm running Havana and I'm seeing some less-than-ideal behaviour on rabbitmq failover. I'd like to figure out if this is expected behaviour or if something is going wrong. We're running rabbitmq in active/standby mode with DRBD storage. On the controller the timeline looks like this: 07

Re: [openstack-dev] BM provisioning through Horizon/CLI?

2014-09-10 Thread Matthias Runge
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 05:53:57PM +, Lokare, Bageshree wrote: > Hello OpenStack Team, > > I have a use case where I want to host/manage a mix environment with VM's and > baremetal servers through Overcloud (Horizon/CLI). To be specific, I am > looking for an ability to create a new server o

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Bringing back auto-abandon (was: Review metrics - what do we want to measure?)

2014-09-10 Thread Matthew Oliver
Hey all, I have written a abandon notifier script for swift. The idea is it does a gerrit query for changes that haven't been updated for 4 weeks, has a negative score and isn't WIP. It then sends an email notification warning the owner that the change is being considered as an abandoned change an

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar graduation (round 2) [was: Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting]

2014-09-10 Thread Gordon Sim
On 09/10/2014 07:29 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Gordon Sim's message of 2014-09-10 06:18:52 -0700: On 09/10/2014 09:58 AM, Flavio Percoco wrote: Other OpenStack components can integrate with Zaqar to surface events to end users and to communicate with guest agents that run in the

Re: [openstack-dev] Treating notifications as a contract

2014-09-10 Thread Sandy Walsh
> Jay Pipes - Wednesday, September 10, 2014 3:56 PM >On 09/03/2014 11:21 AM, Sandy Walsh wrote: >> On 9/3/2014 11:32 AM, Chris Dent wrote: >>> I took some notes on this a few weeks ago and extracted what seemed >>> to be the two main threads or ideas the were revealed by the >>> conversation that h

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting

2014-09-10 Thread Monty Taylor
On 09/10/2014 10:29 AM, Stefano Maffulli wrote: On 09/05/2014 12:36 PM, Tim Bell wrote: How can the average deployer know whether a stackforge is a. An early prototype which has completed (such as some of the early LBaaS packages) b. A project which has lost its initial steam and fur

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][neutron][cinder] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-10 Thread Rochelle.RochelleGrober
-Original Message- From: Daniel P. Berrange [mailto:berra...@redhat.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 1:45 AM On Tue, Sep 09, 2014 at 05:14:43PM -0700, Stefano Maffulli wrote: > > To me, this means you don't really want a sin bin where you dump > > drivers and tell them not to come

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] Licensing issue with using JSHint in build

2014-09-10 Thread Lyle, David
I want to clarify this. Jshint is not a requirement. It is not in requirements.txt or test-requirements.txt nor is it a hard system requirement. Jshint is treated as an optional tool that can either be installed via tox in the jshint testenv which uses npm to pull it down, or by manual install. Th

Re: [openstack-dev] On an API proxy from baremetal to ironic

2014-09-10 Thread Ben Nemec
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/10/2014 02:26 PM, Dan Smith wrote: >> 1) Is this tested anywhere? There are no unit tests in the patch >> and it's not clear to me that there would be any Tempest coverage >> of this code path. Providing this and having it break a couple >> of

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting

2014-09-10 Thread Monty Taylor
On 09/09/2014 07:04 PM, Samuel Merritt wrote: On 9/9/14, 4:47 PM, Devananda van der Veen wrote: On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 4:12 PM, Samuel Merritt wrote: On 9/9/14, 12:03 PM, Monty Taylor wrote: [snip] So which is it? Because it sounds like to me it's a thing that actually does NOT need to diver

[openstack-dev] [openstack-sdk-php] contribution process

2014-09-10 Thread Matthew Farina
When a group of us met recently we discussed documenting the contribution process to the PHP SDK. I've now done so and it's available at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpenStack-SDK-PHP/Process. If there are any questions or comments I'd be happy to talk about them. __

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-10 Thread Vishvananda Ishaya
On Sep 5, 2014, at 4:12 AM, Sean Dague wrote: > On 09/05/2014 06:40 AM, Nikola Đipanov wrote: >> >> >> Just some things to think about with regards to the whole idea, by no >> means exhaustive. > > So maybe the better question is: what are the top sources of technical > debt in Nova that we n

Re: [openstack-dev] On an API proxy from baremetal to ironic

2014-09-10 Thread Sean Dague
On 09/10/2014 03:14 PM, Ben Nemec wrote: > On 09/10/2014 01:13 PM, Dan Smith wrote: >>> As far as I understand it, though, that's a patch for a >>> read-only mode. It seems bizzare, and possibly dangerous, to >>> proxy read commands, but not write commands. It gives the >>> impression that everyt

Re: [openstack-dev] On an API proxy from baremetal to ironic

2014-09-10 Thread Dan Smith
> 1) Is this tested anywhere? There are no unit tests in the patch and > it's not clear to me that there would be any Tempest coverage of this > code path. Providing this and having it break a couple of months down > the line seems worse than not providing it at all. This is obviously > fixable

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-10 Thread Vishvananda Ishaya
On Sep 4, 2014, at 8:33 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > On Thu, Sep 04, 2014 at 01:36:04PM +, Gary Kotton wrote: >> Hi, >> I do not think that Nova is in a death spiral. I just think that the >> current way of working at the moment is strangling the project. I do not >> understand why we nee

Re: [openstack-dev] On an API proxy from baremetal to ironic

2014-09-10 Thread Ben Nemec
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/10/2014 01:13 PM, Dan Smith wrote: >> As far as I understand it, though, that's a patch for a >> read-only mode. It seems bizzare, and possibly dangerous, to >> proxy read commands, but not write commands. It gives the >> impression that everyt

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-10 Thread Vishvananda Ishaya
On Sep 4, 2014, at 3:24 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > Position statement > == > > Over the past year I've increasingly come to the conclusion that > Nova is heading for (or probably already at) a major crisis. If > steps are not taken to avert this, the project is likely to lo

Re: [openstack-dev] Treating notifications as a contract

2014-09-10 Thread Jay Pipes
On 09/03/2014 11:21 AM, Sandy Walsh wrote: On 9/3/2014 11:32 AM, Chris Dent wrote: I took some notes on this a few weeks ago and extracted what seemed to be the two main threads or ideas the were revealed by the conversation that happened in this thread: * At the micro level have versione

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar graduation (round 2) [was: Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting]

2014-09-10 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Gordon Sim's message of 2014-09-10 06:18:52 -0700: > On 09/10/2014 09:58 AM, Flavio Percoco wrote: > > To clarify the doubts of what Zaqar is or it's not, let me quote what's > > written in the project's overview section[0]: > > > > "Zaqar is a multi-tenant cloud messaging service

Re: [openstack-dev] Kilo Cycle Goals Exercise

2014-09-10 Thread Russell Bryant
On 09/03/2014 11:37 AM, Joe Gordon wrote: > As you all know, there has recently been several very active discussions > around how to improve assorted aspects of our development process. One idea > that was brought up is to come up with a list of cycle goals/project > priorities for Kilo [0]. > > T

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][neutron][cinder] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-10 Thread Kyle Mestery
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 12:34 PM, Stefano Maffulli wrote: > On 09/10/2014 02:27 AM, Sylvain Bauza wrote: >> Well, both proposals can be done : we can create subteams and the >> Subteam-Approval Gerrit label right know before Kilo, and we could split >> the virt repos by later once the interfaces a

Re: [openstack-dev] On an API proxy from baremetal to ironic

2014-09-10 Thread Dan Smith
> As far as I understand it, though, that's a patch for a read-only > mode. It seems bizzare, and possibly dangerous, to proxy read > commands, but not write commands. It gives the impression that > everything's fine until it's not fine (because someone tried to use > an existing script to do a c

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Bringing back auto-abandon (was: Review metrics - what do we want to measure?)

2014-09-10 Thread Steven Hardy
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 04:37:14PM +, Jeremy Stanley wrote: > On 2014-09-10 09:57:17 +0100 (+0100), Steven Hardy wrote: > > I can understand this argument, and perhaps an auto-abandon with a > > long period like say a month for the submitter to address comments > > and reset the clock would be

Re: [openstack-dev] [zaqar] Juno Performance Testing (Round 2)

2014-09-10 Thread Kurt Griffiths
Thanks! Looks good. Only thing I noticed was that footnotes were still referenced, but did not appear at the bottom of the page. On 9/10/14, 6:16 AM, "Flavio Percoco" wrote: >I've collected the information from both performance tests and put it in >the project's wiki[0] Please, double check :D

Re: [openstack-dev] On an API proxy from baremetal to ironic

2014-09-10 Thread Sean Dague
I don't get that logic at all. Proxying the read commands means that monitoring or report scripts will work fine. Actual state transition scripts, which can't really work correctly, as there are too many differences, won't. -Sean On 09/10/2014 12:57 PM, Solly Ross wrote: > As far as I un

Re: [openstack-dev] Kilo Cycle Goals Exercise

2014-09-10 Thread Kyle Mestery
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 7:13 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > Joe Gordon wrote: >> To that end, I would like to propose an exercise as discussed in the TC >> meeting yesterday [1]: >> Have anyone interested (especially TC members) come up with a list of >> what they think the project wide Kilo cycle go

[openstack-dev] BM provisioning through Horizon/CLI?

2014-09-10 Thread Lokare, Bageshree
Hello OpenStack Team, I have a use case where I want to host/manage a mix environment with VM's and baremetal servers through Overcloud (Horizon/CLI). To be specific, I am looking for an ability to create a new server on baremetal machine (instead of Vm) through Horizon and manage the instance

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting

2014-09-10 Thread Tim Bell
> -Original Message- > From: Stefano Maffulli [mailto:stef...@openstack.org] > Sent: 10 September 2014 19:29 > To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Comments on the concerns arose during > the TC meeting > > On 09/05/2014 12:36 PM, Tim Bell wrote:

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] Licensing issue with using JSHint in build

2014-09-10 Thread Aaron Sahlin
What you are finding is the same as I found, which raised my concern. Thanks for the pointer to legal-disc...@lists.openstack.org, I will post the question there (let the lawyers figure it out). On 9/10/2014 12:16 PM, Solly Ross wrote: - Original Message - From: "Jeremy Stanley"

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][neutron][cinder] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-10 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On 09/10/2014 02:27 AM, Sylvain Bauza wrote: > Well, both proposals can be done : we can create subteams and the > Subteam-Approval Gerrit label right know before Kilo, and we could split > the virt repos by later once the interfaces and prereqs are done. That's what I mean in fact: create sub tea

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting

2014-09-10 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On 09/05/2014 12:36 PM, Tim Bell wrote: > How can the average deployer know whether a stackforge is > > a. An early prototype which has completed (such as some of the > early LBaaS packages) > > b. A project which has lost its initial steam and further > investment is not foreseen > >

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] Licensing issue with using JSHint in build

2014-09-10 Thread Solly Ross
- Original Message - > From: "Jeremy Stanley" > To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" > > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 1:10:18 PM > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] Licensing issue with using JSHint in > build > > On 2014-09-10 13:00:29 -0400

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] Licensing issue with using JSHint in build

2014-09-10 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2014-09-10 13:00:29 -0400 (-0400), Solly Ross wrote: > JSHint *isn't* Douglas Crockford. It was written by someone who > (understandably) thought Douglas Crockford had some good ideas, > but was overzealous. [...] Overzealous enough to copy his code. > The license is as such: > https://github.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] Licensing issue with using JSHint in build

2014-09-10 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2014-09-10 10:56:37 -0500 (-0500), Aaron Sahlin wrote: [...] > Did Horizon get permission or find some way around the licensing > issue? It's worth mentioning that he seems to consider the free software legal concerns around his license choice amusing and will apparently, upon request, provide

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] i need some help on this bug Bug #1365892

2014-09-10 Thread Mike Bayer
On Sep 10, 2014, at 4:11 AM, Li Tianqing wrote: > After some research, i find the reason for the cycle reference. In closure, > the _fix_paswords.func_closre reference the _fix_passwords. So the > cycle reference happened. > And in https://thp.io/2012/python-gc/python_gc_final_2012-01-22.pdf

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] Licensing issue with using JSHint in build

2014-09-10 Thread Solly Ross
JSHint *isn't* Douglas Crockford. It was written by someone who (understandably) thought Douglas Crockford had some good ideas, but was overzealous. It does mostly the same things, but is more lenient with regards to style elements. The license is as such: https://github.com/jshint/jshint/blob

Re: [openstack-dev] On an API proxy from baremetal to ironic

2014-09-10 Thread Solly Ross
As far as I understand it, though, that's a patch for a read-only mode. It seems bizzare, and possibly dangerous, to proxy read commands, but not write commands. It gives the impression that everything's fine until it's not fine (because someone tried to use an existing script to do a create c

[openstack-dev] [all] Bringing back auto-abandon (was: Review metrics - what do we want to measure?)

2014-09-10 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2014-09-10 09:57:17 +0100 (+0100), Steven Hardy wrote: > I can understand this argument, and perhaps an auto-abandon with a > long period like say a month for the submitter to address comments > and reset the clock would be a reasonable compromise? Perhaps, but the old script lacked a bunch of

Re: [openstack-dev] On an API proxy from baremetal to ironic

2014-09-10 Thread Chris K
I thought it might be helpful to show a sample of the output from the proxied commands: Please find the example here: http://paste.openstack.org/show/Em861wMwFvrFlsWkugfX Chris Krelle NobodyCam On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 7:33 AM, Sean Dague wrote: > On 09/09/2014 11:22 PM, Russell Bryant wrote

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Plugable solution for running abstract commands on nodes

2014-09-10 Thread Dmitriy Shulyak
Hi, you described transport mechanism for running commands based on facts, we have another one, which stores all business logic in nailgun and only provides orchestrator with set of tasks to execute. This is not a problem. I am talking about API for plugin writer/developer. And how implement it t

Re: [openstack-dev] [release] client release deadline - Sept 18th

2014-09-10 Thread Kyle Mestery
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Matt Riedemann wrote: > > > On 9/9/2014 4:19 PM, Sean Dague wrote: >> >> As we try to stabilize OpenStack Juno, many server projects need to get >> out final client releases that expose new features of their servers. >> While this seems like not a big deal, each o

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][neutron][cinder] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-10 Thread Kyle Mestery
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 3:44 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > On Tue, Sep 09, 2014 at 05:14:43PM -0700, Stefano Maffulli wrote: >> > To me, this means you don't really want a sin bin where you dump >> > drivers and tell them not to come out until they're fit to be >> > reviewed by the core; You wan

[openstack-dev] [Horizon] Licensing issue with using JSHint in build

2014-09-10 Thread Aaron Sahlin
I noticed that the build is using JSHint now, and before I consider syncing it with the proposed options from the JavaScript best practices (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/117595/), I wanted to double check and be sure Horizon got past the legal problem with the good/evil licensing. Some bac

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [clients] [keystone] lack of retrying tokens leads to overall OpenStack fragility

2014-09-10 Thread Steven Hardy
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 10:14:32AM -0400, Sean Dague wrote: > Going through the untriaged Nova bugs, and there are a few on a similar > pattern: > > Nova operation in progress takes a while > Crosses keystone token expiration time > Timeout thrown > Operation fails > Terrible 500 error sent ba

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Plugable solution for running abstract commands on nodes

2014-09-10 Thread Aleksandr Didenko
Hi, as for execution of arbitrary code across the OpenStack cluster - I was thinking of mcollective + fact filters: 1) we need to start using mcollective facts [0] [2] - we don't use/configure this currently 2) use mcollective execute_shell_command agent (or any other agent) with fact filter [1]

[openstack-dev] 凌志阳149759 不在办公室。

2014-09-10 Thread ling . zhiyang
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Re: [openstack-dev] [all] webnumbr bug graphs appear dead for bug triage

2014-09-10 Thread Thierry Carrez
Sean Dague wrote: > All the various bug triage graphs point out to webnumbr urls from our > wiki - https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/BugTriage > > All of webnumbr appears to be dead and not returning any data. > > Why this service was used predates me. Does anyone know why? Anyone know > if it's go

[openstack-dev] anyone using RabbitMQ with active/active mirrored queues?

2014-09-10 Thread Chris Friesen
Hi, I see that the OpenStack high availability guide is still recommending the active/standby method of configuring RabbitMQ. Has anyone tried using active/active with mirrored queues as recommended by the RabbitMQ developers? If so, what problems did you run into? Thanks, Chris _

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] webnumbr bug graphs appear dead for bug triage

2014-09-10 Thread Tom Fifield
On 10/09/14 22:51, Sean Dague wrote: > All the various bug triage graphs point out to webnumbr urls from our > wiki - https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/BugTriage > > All of webnumbr appears to be dead and not returning any data. > > Why this service was used predates me. Does anyone know why? Anyon

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Node renaming in Fuel

2014-09-10 Thread Mike Scherbakov
Also, how about checking for duplicated name? That it matches standard for DNS? > return u"{node_id}".format(node_id=instance.name.lower()) you could just "return instance.name.lower()" I believe.. On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 7:00 PM, Igor Kalnitsky wrote: > Hi Dmitry, > > It's not as easy as you

[openstack-dev] [Fuel] Plugable solution for running abstract commands on nodes

2014-09-10 Thread Dmitriy Shulyak
Hi folks, Some of you may know that there is ongoing work to achieve kindof data-driven orchestration for Fuel. If this is new to you, please get familiar with spec: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/113491/ Knowing that running random command on nodes will be probably most usable type of orchest

[openstack-dev] What's up doc? Sept. 10, 2014

2014-09-10 Thread Anne Gentle
Bug squash day worked well on 9/9 -- squashing and triaging bugs, bringing the openstack-manuals backlog to about 400, with 50 in progress even now! The openstack-api-site backlog went to about 200 with 15 in progress. We also had some fairly new docs contributors join in -- thank you everyone who

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