Re: [Openstack] Cells use cases

2013-10-04 Thread Tom Fifield
On 04/10/13 04:42, Chris Behrens wrote: > > > I > felt that the multi-DC or multi-continent scenario where you want your > nova-api endpoints to see ALL instances (as opposed to multi-region with > keystone) was a good use case for cells. This is the NeCTAR use case: http://www.openstack.or

Re: [Openstack] Cells use cases

2013-10-04 Thread Chris Behrens
On Oct 3, 2013, at 11:36 AM, Tim Bell wrote: > > Chris, > > Great to see further improvements are in the pipeline. The cinder support for > cells in Havana is a very welcome development. Oh yes, I forgot that landed during Havana. It had been done during the Grizzly timeframe but didn't

Re: [Openstack] Cells use cases

2013-10-03 Thread Chris Behrens
On Oct 3, 2013, at 12:49 PM, Mike Wilson wrote: […] > Now that I've said all this, cells does handle these three problems very > nicely by partitioning them all off and coordinating the api. However, there > are some missing features that I think are not trivial to implement. I'm also > not a

Re: [Openstack] Cells use cases

2013-10-03 Thread Dmitry Ukov
single cell would handle it. >> >> ** ** >> >> I’d be happy to hear experiences from others in this area. >> >> ** ** >> >> Belmiro will be giving a summit talk on the deep dive including our >> experiences for those who are able to make it. >> >&

Re: [Openstack] Cells use cases

2013-10-03 Thread Mike Wilson
Harlow [mailto:harlo...@yahoo-inc.com] > *Sent:* 03 October 2013 20:32 > *To:* Subbu Allamaraju; Tim Bell > *Cc:* openstack@lists.openstack.org > > *Subject:* Re: [Openstack] Cells use cases > > ** ** > > Hi Tim, > > ** ** > > I'd also like to know wh

Re: [Openstack] Cells use cases

2013-10-03 Thread Allamaraju, Subbu
Got it. By RPC I was referring to RabbitMQ in particular. That's also the rationale that Rackspace presented at the Portland summit. Subbu On Oct 3, 2013, at 11:42 AM, Chris Behrens wrote: > > On Oct 3, 2013, at 10:23 AM, Subbu Allamaraju wrote: > >> Hi Tim, >> >> Can you comment on scalab

Re: [Openstack] Cells use cases

2013-10-03 Thread Tim Bell
openstack@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [Openstack] Cells use cases On Oct 3, 2013, at 8:53 AM, Tim Bell mailto:tim.b...@cern.ch>> wrote: At CERN, we're running cells for scalability. When you go over 1000 hypervisors or so, the general recommendation is to be in a cells conf

Re: [Openstack] Cells use cases

2013-10-03 Thread Chris Behrens
On Oct 3, 2013, at 10:23 AM, Subbu Allamaraju wrote: > Hi Tim, > > Can you comment on scalability more? Are you referring to just the RPC layer > in the control plane? Not just RPC, but RPC is a big one. Cells gives the ability to split up and distribute work. If you divide hypervisors int

Re: [Openstack] Cells use cases

2013-10-03 Thread Tim Bell
nces for those who are able to make it. Tim From: Joshua Harlow [mailto:harlo...@yahoo-inc.com] Sent: 03 October 2013 20:32 To: Subbu Allamaraju; Tim Bell Cc: openstack@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [Openstack] Cells use cases Hi Tim, I'd also like to know what happens above 1000 hype

Re: [Openstack] Cells use cases

2013-10-03 Thread Joshua Harlow
lists.openstack.org<mailto:openstack@lists.openstack.org>" mailto:openstack@lists.openstack.org>> Subject: Re: [Openstack] Cells use cases Hi Tim, Can you comment on scalability more? Are you referring to just the RPC layer in the control plane? Subbu On Oct 3, 2013, at 8:53 AM, Tim Bell

Re: [Openstack] Cells use cases

2013-10-03 Thread Chris Behrens
On Oct 3, 2013, at 8:53 AM, Tim Bell wrote: > > At CERN, we’re running cells for scalability. When you go over 1000 > hypervisors or so, the general recommendation is to be in a cells > configuration. > > Cells are quite complex and the full functionality is not there yet so some > parts

Re: [Openstack] Cells use cases

2013-10-03 Thread Subbu Allamaraju
Hi Tim, Can you comment on scalability more? Are you referring to just the RPC layer in the control plane? Subbu > On Oct 3, 2013, at 8:53 AM, Tim Bell wrote: > > > At CERN, we’re running cells for scalability. When you go over 1000 > hypervisors or so, the general recommendation is to be

Re: [Openstack] Cells use cases

2013-10-03 Thread Tim Bell
At CERN, we're running cells for scalability. When you go over 1000 hypervisors or so, the general recommendation is to be in a cells configuration. Cells are quite complex and the full functionality is not there yet so some parts will need to wait for Havana. Tim From: Dmitry Ukov [mailto:du