Re: [Openstack] Cells use cases

2013-10-03 Thread Chris Behrens
On Oct 3, 2013, at 12:49 PM, Mike Wilson wrote: […] > Now that I've said all this, cells does handle these three problems very > nicely by partitioning them all off and coordinating the api. However, there > are some missing features that I think are not trivial to implement. I'm also > not a

Re: [Openstack] Cells use cases

2013-10-03 Thread Dmitry Ukov
Tim, thanks for your vision. Reducing load average on Rabbit is a good reason to use cells. Technically RPC is a kind of bottleneck on large number of hypervisors but I think dividing cluster on small peaces is just increasing number of bottlenecks. May be it's better improve RPC mechanism (in term

Re: [Openstack] how to tell dhcp-agent to advertice certain routes?

2013-10-03 Thread Ilkka Tengvall
On 01.10.2013 17:55, Jonathan Proulx wrote: On Tue, Oct 01, 2013 at 12:01:24PM +0300, Ilkka Tengvall wrote: I'm not using the quantum metadata service. I can get away with this becasue I have relatively few networks and are all more or less in the same administrative domain. I'm running the nov

Re: [Openstack] OpenStack Finland meetup in Tampere, Oct. 30th

2013-10-03 Thread Ilkka Tengvall
If you are able to make it here, please register so we can estimate the arrangements better. And don't be afraid of the original invite in Finnish, we can have all the possible presentations also in English, as queried by some people. Lighning talks, anyone? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light

Re: [Openstack] Instance Disk Problem

2013-10-03 Thread Mahardhika Gilang
Hi, instance run with centos 6.4 and host used ubuntu 13. i try run instance with cirros and still get same issue with different value. On 10/4/2013 11:55 AM, Ritesh Nanda wrote: Hello , Which operating system is it , if ubuntu you would need initramfs-growroot , so that it allocates the roo

Re: [Openstack] Instance Disk Problem

2013-10-03 Thread Ritesh Nanda
Hello , Which operating system is it , if ubuntu you would need initramfs-growroot , so that it allocates the root space at the time of boot . Same would be for another os also but you need to check the package name. Regards, Ritesh On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 9:49 AM, Mahardhika Gilang < mahardik

[Openstack] Instance Disk Problem

2013-10-03 Thread Mahardhika Gilang
Hi all, i have deploy one instance and used flavor that have 20G Disk with ephermal 10G when instance up, i check with df -h command, and it show like this (LVM) *FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on** **/dev/mapper/VolGroup-lv_root** ** 2.5G 1.7G

Re: [Openstack] deployment vnc issues -

2013-10-03 Thread Gangur, Hrushikesh (R & D HP Cloud)
Your configuration looks right to me. Seems a browser or plugin issue. Can you try browsers like google chrome and firefox. From: kody abney [mailto:bagelthesm...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 1:06 PM To: openstack@lists.openstack.org Subject: [Openstack] deployment vnc issues - He

[Openstack] deployment vnc issues -

2013-10-03 Thread kody abney
Hello, just joined this mailing list. Reason being is that most of the openstack documentation out there is too scattered and not very accurate. Learned this when my company setup our openstack cluster. I have a very simple question today, something that isn't working properly. We deployed a full s

[Openstack] openstack - keystone - what is stable version?

2013-10-03 Thread Sunil Roy
Hi All, what is the stable version of keystone to support (sqlite,postgres, ldap,oauth)? i have downloaded " https://github.com/openstack/keystone/archive/2013.1.3.tar.gz"; , was unable to start the keystone instance on ubuntu 12.04. can anyone pl provide the url of keystone stable version to s

Re: [Openstack] Cells use cases

2013-10-03 Thread Mike Wilson
Tim, We currently run a bit more than 20k hypervisors on a single cell. We had three major problems with getting this large: RPC, DB and scheduler. RPC is solvable by getting away from the hub-spoke topology that brokered messaging forces you into, AKA, use 0mq. DB was overcome by a combination of

Re: [Openstack] Cells use cases

2013-10-03 Thread Allamaraju, Subbu
Got it. By RPC I was referring to RabbitMQ in particular. That's also the rationale that Rackspace presented at the Portland summit. Subbu On Oct 3, 2013, at 11:42 AM, Chris Behrens wrote: > > On Oct 3, 2013, at 10:23 AM, Subbu Allamaraju wrote: > >> Hi Tim, >> >> Can you comment on scalab

Re: [Openstack] Cells use cases

2013-10-03 Thread Tim Bell
Chris, Great to see further improvements are in the pipeline. The cinder support for cells in Havana is a very welcome development. For our Grizzly instance, we're also seeing some issues around flavors / availability zone definition along with some ceilometer functions. It would be good to h

Re: [Openstack] Cells use cases

2013-10-03 Thread Chris Behrens
On Oct 3, 2013, at 10:23 AM, Subbu Allamaraju wrote: > Hi Tim, > > Can you comment on scalability more? Are you referring to just the RPC layer > in the control plane? Not just RPC, but RPC is a big one. Cells gives the ability to split up and distribute work. If you divide hypervisors int

Re: [Openstack] Cells use cases

2013-10-03 Thread Tim Bell
We've got several OpenStack clouds at CERN (details in http://openstack-in-production.blogspot.fr/2013/09/a-tale-of-3-openstack-clouds-5.html). The CMS farm was the further ahead and encountered problems with the number of database connections at around 1300 hypervisors. Nova conductor help

Re: [Openstack] Cells use cases

2013-10-03 Thread Joshua Harlow
Hi Tim, I'd also like to know what happens above 1000 hypervisors that u think needs cells? >From experience at y! we actually start to see the nova-scheduler (and the >filter scheduler mainly) be the problem (at around ~400 hypervisors) and that >seems addressable without cells (yes it requir

Re: [Openstack] Cells use cases

2013-10-03 Thread Chris Behrens
On Oct 3, 2013, at 8:53 AM, Tim Bell wrote: > > At CERN, we’re running cells for scalability. When you go over 1000 > hypervisors or so, the general recommendation is to be in a cells > configuration. > > Cells are quite complex and the full functionality is not there yet so some > parts

Re: [Openstack] Cells use cases

2013-10-03 Thread Subbu Allamaraju
Hi Tim, Can you comment on scalability more? Are you referring to just the RPC layer in the control plane? Subbu > On Oct 3, 2013, at 8:53 AM, Tim Bell wrote: > > > At CERN, we’re running cells for scalability. When you go over 1000 > hypervisors or so, the general recommendation is to be

Re: [Openstack] Cells use cases

2013-10-03 Thread Tim Bell
At CERN, we're running cells for scalability. When you go over 1000 hypervisors or so, the general recommendation is to be in a cells configuration. Cells are quite complex and the full functionality is not there yet so some parts will need to wait for Havana. Tim From: Dmitry Ukov [mailto:du

Re: [Openstack] Making the Hong Kong Summit as inclusive as possible

2013-10-03 Thread Lauren Sell
Hi Anne, David, Yes, the transparency committee update is on the board meeting agenda, but I think the code of conduct for our Summit is a different issue. The transparency committee had three main tasks: develop a written policy documenting our approach to transparency, investigate creating an

[Openstack] Cells use cases

2013-10-03 Thread Dmitry Ukov
Hello all, I've really interested in cells but unfortunately i can't find any useful use cases of them. For instance I have 4 DCs and I need single entry point for them. In this case cells are a bit complicated solution. It's better to use multiple regions in keystone instead The only one good

Re: [Openstack] Storage, glusterfs v ceph

2013-10-03 Thread Razique Mahroua
Hi John, please find my answers below - just to clarify, you are talking about the storage for the instances right? Le 3 oct. 2013 à 11:04, John Ashford a écrit : > 1 – Glusterfs V Ceph > Im reading a lot of different opinions about which of these is the best > storage backend. My need is

[Openstack] Nova, Neutron, Heat and Horizon Havana RC1 available

2013-10-03 Thread Thierry Carrez
Hello everyone, This morning we've got Nova, Neutron, Heat and Horizon all publishing their first release candidate for the Havana release ! You can download those RC1 tarballs at: https://launchpad.net/nova/havana/havana-rc1 https://launchpad.net/neutron/havana/havana-rc1 https://launchpad.net/h

Re: [Openstack] Directional network performance issues with Neutron + OpenvSwitch

2013-10-03 Thread James Page
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 02/10/13 22:49, James Page wrote: >> sudo ip netns exec qrouter-d3baf1b1-55ee-42cb-a3f6-9629288e3221 >>> traceroute -n 10.5.0.2 -p 4 --mtu traceroute to 10.5.0.2 >>> (10.5.0.2), 30 hops max, 65000 byte packets 1 10.5.0.2 0.950 >>> ms F=1500

Re: [Openstack] Storage, glusterfs v ceph

2013-10-03 Thread Maciej Gałkiewicz
On 3 October 2013 11:04, John Ashford wrote: > 1 – Glusterfs V Ceph > > Im reading a lot of different opinions about which of these is the best > storage backend. My need is for a fully stable product that has fault > tolerance built in. It needs to support maybe 400 low traffic web sites and > a

[Openstack] Storage, glusterfs v ceph

2013-10-03 Thread John Ashford
1 – Glusterfs V Ceph Im reading a lot of different opinions about which of these is the best storage backend. My need is for a fully stable product that has fault tolerance built in. It needs to support maybe 400 low traffic web sites and a few very high traffic. I saw a Redhat diag suggesting thr

[Openstack] Instances' hostname in OpenStack

2013-10-03 Thread Marco CONSONNI
Hello folks, I'm writing for having some information about the hostname management in OpenStack. I looked into AWS and, if I understood correctly, it implements two types of hostnames: external and internal. External hostnames are associated to public IP (floating IP in OpenStack parlance) while

Re: [Openstack] "nova list" returns nothing

2013-10-03 Thread Rami Vaknin
On 10/03/2013 03:12 AM, Clement Buisson wrote: All these variables are correct, I just double checked them. This is really strange because it was working fine and stopped working all of the sudden! Your request says that you're not using the admin project (tenant): "X-Auth-Project-Id: main" It