[Openstack] FeatureFreeze at EOD today: branches needing your review

2011-01-13 Thread Thierry Carrez
Hello everyone, A small status at the beginning of this important day. While the different development subgroups do a good job at reviewing their colleagues branches, we have not been doing a good job as a project: some branches that were proposed before the BMPFreeze date did not get sufficiently

Re: [Openstack] Glance x-image-meta-type raw vs machine

2011-01-13 Thread Jay Pipes
On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 5:33 PM, Ewan Mellor wrote: > Is there a name for the .vmx + .vmdk combination (i.e. a normal VMware VM > format)?  Maybe just "VMX" as an appliance format? Sorry for the probably ignorant question here (I'm pretty ignorant to a lot of the virtualization details :( ). Fro

[Openstack] Fwd: Re: Glance x-image-meta-type raw vs machine

2011-01-13 Thread Endre Karlson
I think vmx is the settings dike for the VM il vmware On Jan 13, 2011 3:32 PM, "Jay Pipes" wrote: ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help :

Re: [Openstack] Glance x-image-meta-type raw vs machine

2011-01-13 Thread Diego Parrilla Santamaría
An appliance is the combination of metadata describing the virtual machine plus the virtual disks. The standard format in the virtualization industry is OVF. Basically, differs from VMX+VMDK(s) because it has a XML format that describes the virtual machine (and little bit its environment like firew

Re: [Openstack] Glance x-image-meta-type raw vs machine

2011-01-13 Thread Jay Pipes
2011/1/13 Diego Parrilla Santamaría : > An appliance is the combination of metadata describing the virtual machine > plus the virtual disks. The standard format in the virtualization industry > is OVF. Basically, differs from VMX+VMDK(s) because it has a XML format that > describes the virtual mach

Re: [Openstack] Glance x-image-meta-type raw vs machine

2011-01-13 Thread Erik Carlin
I would just call it VMDK. That's what Vmware (http://www.vmware.com/technical-resources/interfaces/vmdk.html) and everyone else calls it, even though there may be extra files to support it. We're just naming the disk format here. We had also talked about the IMG disk format to support AMIs but

Re: [Openstack] Glance x-image-meta-type raw vs machine

2011-01-13 Thread Jay Pipes
2011/1/13 Erik Carlin : > I would just call it VMDK.  That's what Vmware > (http://www.vmware.com/technical-resources/interfaces/vmdk.html) and > everyone else calls it, even though there may be extra files to support > it.  We're just naming the disk format here. So, that's a "no" to adding VMX a

Re: [Openstack] Lazy import of modules

2011-01-13 Thread Jay Pipes
On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 6:43 PM, Ewan Mellor wrote: > At the risk of starting to shave yaks: do we want to have an openstack-common > then?  It seems to be DOA at the moment. There's little to no agreement on common principles and code between the projects, unfortunately. It would be best, IMHO,

[Openstack] [Nova] Translators, start your engines...

2011-01-13 Thread Jay Pipes
Hello stackers, With help from Monty Taylor, I've completed the support for i18n in Nova. After notifying the Launchpad Translations team of this yesterday, that team has already begun the translation of Nova into 7 different languages: Asturian, Chinese (Simplified), Danish, Italian, Japanese, R

Re: [Openstack] Lazy import of modules

2011-01-13 Thread Ewan Mellor
I can understand that the Swift guys don't want to destabilize their codebase, but Glance and Nova should have some common items, no? Lazy loading, logging, and I18N support all spring to mind as likely to be common across Glance and Nova. Ewan. > -Original Message- > From: Jay Pipes

Re: [Openstack] Lazy import of modules

2011-01-13 Thread Vishvananda Ishaya
The lazy loading in common seems fine minus one small issue. If I read it correctly It looks like it is limited to a class or module. There doesn't seem to be a way to proxy into an object itself. I'd like to be able to specify a class (or a method) and have it lazy loaded into an object bac

Re: [Openstack] Lazy import of modules

2011-01-13 Thread Devin Carlen
I see no problem with putting lazy loading in common. Just because it's there doesn't mean swift has to use it. Common simply implies that they are modules used by several, but not necessarily all, projects. On Jan 13, 2011, at 3:24 PM, Vishvananda Ishaya wrote: > The lazy loading in common s

Re: [Openstack] Lazy import of modules

2011-01-13 Thread Andy Smith
While I agree largely with the statements so far, I think the main issue with nova-common is that the swift project and the nova project have pretty much no communication going on between them. I think that is okay for now, the projects are two rather distinct codebases dropped wholesale next to ea

Re: [Openstack] Lazy import of modules

2011-01-13 Thread Vishvananda Ishaya
The LazyPluggable in nova common was based on yours I think. The class idea is fine with me as long as those features are added. You just have to make sure that you don't eat the exception in the try, catch, because that is what import class was doing, but it was catching underlying import err