On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 5:33 PM, Ewan Mellor <ewan.mel...@eu.citrix.com> wrote: > Is there a name for the .vmx + .vmdk combination (i.e. a normal VMware VM > format)? Maybe just "VMX" as an appliance format?
Sorry for the probably ignorant question here (I'm pretty ignorant to a lot of the virtualization details :( ). From Googling, it seems that the VMX file is merely a configuration file fed to vmware along with a VMDK when creating a virtual machine. Is this considered an appliance format? Thanks in advance, -jay > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: John Purrier [mailto:j...@openstack.org] >> Sent: 10 January 2011 08:59 >> To: 'Jay Pipes' >> Cc: Ewan Mellor; openstack@lists.launchpad.net >> Subject: RE: [Openstack] Glance x-image-meta-type raw vs machine >> >> Jay, this makes a lot of sense. For disk formats I would suggest: VHD, >> VDI, VMDK, RAW, & QCOW2. For the appliance formats: OVF, OVA, & AMI. >> >> Conversion within Glance will need to be able to handle both disk image >> conversion and appliance format conversion. >> >> John >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Jay Pipes [mailto:jaypi...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 10:26 AM >> To: John Purrier >> Cc: Ewan Mellor; openstack@lists.launchpad.net >> Subject: Re: [Openstack] Glance x-image-meta-type raw vs machine >> >> And I think we need to come to an agreement on the terms used here... >> >> What is a "type" of virtual image? Do we mean a *disk* image format? >> Do we mean a *metadata envelope* type (OVF, AMI, etc)? Do we mean some >> "type" of system image or image part (kernel, ramdisk, etc)? >> >> What Glance is serving/registering is really called a *virtual >> appliance*, as described in this article: >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_appliance >> >> Proposal: >> >> Change the Image model to have these following fields, instead of the >> existing "type" column: >> >> disk_format -- choice between ('VHD', 'VDI', 'VMDK') >> appliance_file_format -- choice between ('AMI','OVF') >> >> Thoughts? >> -jay >> >> On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 11:11 AM, John Purrier <j...@openstack.org> >> wrote: >> > My 2 cents... We need to define a transport-neutral specification >> that allows us to encapsulate and copy/move a variety of virtual image >> formats, this should be based on OVF. The envelope can contain both the >> actual image as well as any required meta-data. >> > >> > The image elements specified are very AMI specific, we should >> generalize to be able to indicate the type of virtual image (i.e. AMI, >> VHD, etc.). A test for POC can be a service that takes the data in the >> OVF or what is stored in Glance to convert between formats. If we do >> this correctly all of the required data will be available at the >> correct point in the flow. >> > >> > Don't know if this is directly applicable to the discussion point >> below, but it is important that we get the fundamental >> design/architecture concepts in place moving forward. >> > >> > John >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: openstack-bounces+john=openstack....@lists.launchpad.net >> [mailto:openstack-bounces+john=openstack....@lists.launchpad.net] On >> Behalf Of Jay Pipes >> > Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 9:44 AM >> > To: Ewan Mellor >> > Cc: openstack@lists.launchpad.net >> > Subject: Re: [Openstack] Glance x-image-meta-type raw vs machine >> > >> > On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 7:30 PM, Ewan Mellor >> <ewan.mel...@eu.citrix.com> wrote: >> >> What is the intended semantics of the Glance x-image-meta-type >> header values >> >> “raw” vs “machine”? >> > >> > When we pulled the Image model from Nova into Glance, there was a >> > field "image_type" that was limited to the strings "raw", "machine", >> > "kernel", and "ramdisk". >> > >> > I'm open to changing this or using something like a "format" field >> > (AMI vs OVF, etc..) >> > >> > Thoughts? >> > >> > -jay >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack >> > Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net >> > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack >> > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> > >> > > > _______________________________________________ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
