Re: [Openstack] New code name for networks

2013-05-14 Thread Armando Migliaccio
Not sure if this has been proposed before or even it is at all feasible, but how about changing the last/first letter? Quantum -> QuantuS, QuantuN, Cuantum...? There are a plenty of options to go by. On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 5:28 PM, Monty Taylor wrote: > > > On 05/13/2013 11:03 AM, Doug Hellma

Re: [Openstack] New code name for networks

2013-05-13 Thread Monty Taylor
On 05/13/2013 11:03 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > > > On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 5:48 PM, Anne Gentle > wrote: > > > > > On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 3:12 PM, Monty Taylor > wrote: > > > > On 05/11/2013 04:07 PM, Asher New

Re: [Openstack] New code name for networks

2013-05-13 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 11:30 AM, Sean Dague wrote: > On 05/13/2013 11:03 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > >> >> >> +1 >> >> Use a namespace package "openstack" then each project has a unique >> package under that for their meaningfully named package (compute, >> networking, etc.). >> > > Sounds great

Re: [Openstack] New code name for networks

2013-05-13 Thread Sean Dague
On 05/13/2013 11:03 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: +1 Use a namespace package "openstack" then each project has a unique package under that for their meaningfully named package (compute, networking, etc.). Sounds great and all, except when you try to do something like quantum, or even cinder, whe

Re: [Openstack] New code name for networks

2013-05-13 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 5:48 PM, Anne Gentle wrote: > > > > On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 3:12 PM, Monty Taylor wrote: > >> >> >> On 05/11/2013 04:07 PM, Asher Newcomer wrote: >> > Or even better, just continue to call it openstack networking. The code >> > names only serve to confuse the uninitiated.

Re: [Openstack] New code name for networks

2013-05-13 Thread Thierry Carrez
Monty Taylor wrote: > So, with all due respect to the many awesome lawyers who are involved with > the project, what I'm getting at is that we need to do the right thing as > best we can based on unofficial advice from well meaning people who may or > may not have legal backgrounds as well as in

Re: [Openstack] New code name for networks

2013-05-13 Thread MARGOLIN, Udi (Udi)
ay, May 13, 2013 12:47 PM To: openstack@lists.launchpad.net Subject: Re: [Openstack] New code name for networks Anne Gentle wrote: > > I told Monty and the TC this at the Summit (sorry I couldn't attend > > the session about code names). > > I promise, it wa

Re: [Openstack] New code name for networks

2013-05-13 Thread Thierry Carrez
Anne Gentle wrote: > > I told Monty and the TC this at the Summit (sorry I couldn't attend the > > session about code names). > > I promise, it wasn't the world's most fun session. :) > > I'm sure. :) I think I don't have much regret but do feel sorry that I > don't know more. The Etherpad

Re: [Openstack] New code name for networks

2013-05-12 Thread Joshua Harlow
I vote for calling it "spacetime" since spacetime binds us all together in the same way networks bind computers together. Doubt it's copyrightable if that's needed, unless Einstein holds the copyright :P Sent from my really tiny device... On May 12, 2013, at 10:43 AM, "John Wong" mailto:gokopr

Re: [Openstack] New code name for networks

2013-05-12 Thread Monty Taylor
Don't get me wrong... I don't disagree with you. I think lawyers are super important. At the risk of "some of my best friends are..." I took the lsat a few years ago (did quite well ;) ) with a view towards law school and my girlfriend is in law school. TOTALLY respect for lawyers. I don't want

Re: [Openstack] New code name for networks

2013-05-12 Thread Brad Knowles
On May 12, 2013, at 9:52 AM, Monty Taylor wrote: > I would really like to keep the marketing/business folks out of our > source code. > > Most importantl, I would really like to keep the lawyers out of our > source code. My wife is a lawyer, so maybe I'm particularly sensitive to this issue.

Re: [Openstack] New code name for networks

2013-05-12 Thread John Wong
Cool. I think I did a search here: http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=searchss&state=4804:3j8874.1.1 for Netpune. Are we only concern with registered trademark? I am sure a lot of names we come up with are either full or partial of some company's name. What's the bottom line? Who's going to

Re: [Openstack] New code name for networks

2013-05-12 Thread Sean Dague
Quark is also the trademark of a computer software company - http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4808:7k4xqd.2.44 This stuff is trickier than you might realize. Hence why car names are now all made-ity-up words. -Sean On 05/12/2013 12:21 PM, Jacob Godin wrote: I like th

Re: [Openstack] New code name for networks

2013-05-12 Thread Jacob Godin
I like this, +1 On 2013-05-11 8:08 PM, "David Shrewsbury" wrote: > quark > > Keeps the sciency theme going, same first two letters, and represents > something > fundamental to other sciency stuff (much like networking is fundamental to > OpenStack). > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quark > > -Dav

Re: [Openstack] New code name for networks

2013-05-12 Thread Mac Innes, Kiall
On 12/05/13 16:52, Monty Taylor wrote: > I mention our erstwhile nascent DNSaaS project as an example > of pre-incubation... hopefully someone in that project will do the thing > I just mentioned and will come to us at incubation time with a name that > is not a CLEAR violation. I mean, we can't be

Re: [Openstack] New code name for networks

2013-05-12 Thread Colin McNamara
Exceedingly well put. On Sunday, May 12, 2013, Monty Taylor wrote: > > > On 05/11/2013 08:58 PM, Anne Gentle wrote: > > > > > > > > On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 6:43 PM, Monty Taylor > > wrote: > > > > > > > > On 05/11/2013 05:48 PM, Anne Gentle wrote: > > > > >

Re: [Openstack] New code name for networks

2013-05-12 Thread Monty Taylor
On 05/11/2013 08:58 PM, Anne Gentle wrote: > > > > On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 6:43 PM, Monty Taylor > wrote: > > > > On 05/11/2013 05:48 PM, Anne Gentle wrote: > > > > > > > > On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 3:12 PM, Monty Taylor >

Re: [Openstack] New code name for networks

2013-05-11 Thread John Wong
Hi all: I actually like Quantum. I think that name has embedded into my brain for so long that I often refuse to look at an alternative name. What's the reason? Did I miss out the actual reason behind it? Anyway, I propose *Neptune.* 1. It has the "net" sound in it, and 2. Neptune as God of Sea.

Re: [Openstack] New code name for networks

2013-05-11 Thread Brad Knowles
On May 11, 2013, at 10:02 PM, Sumit Naiksatam wrote: > How about "netstack"? We had originally coined this name for the > collection of quantum, melange, and donabe services. Melange got > folded into Quantum, so we stopped using netstack. If you want to start re-naming everything in OpenStack t

Re: [Openstack] New code name for networks

2013-05-11 Thread Brad Knowles
On May 11, 2013, at 10:02 PM, Sumit Naiksatam wrote: > How about "netstack"? We had originally coined this name for the > collection of quantum, melange, and donabe services. Melange got > folded into Quantum, so we stopped using netstack. If you want to start re-naming everything in OpenStack t

Re: [Openstack] New code name for networks

2013-05-11 Thread Sumit Naiksatam
How about "netstack"? We had originally coined this name for the collection of quantum, melange, and donabe services. Melange got folded into Quantum, so we stopped using netstack. But Quantum today is actually a collection of network services, both for network connectivity, and also for more advan

Re: [Openstack] New code name for networks

2013-05-11 Thread Anne Gentle
On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 6:43 PM, Monty Taylor wrote: > > > On 05/11/2013 05:48 PM, Anne Gentle wrote: > > > > > > > > On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 3:12 PM, Monty Taylor > > wrote: > > > > > > > > On 05/11/2013 04:07 PM, Asher Newcomer wrote: > > > Or even better,

Re: [Openstack] New code name for networks

2013-05-11 Thread Rick Jones
On 05/11/2013 01:07 PM, Monty Taylor wrote: I have been arguing for: mutnuaq As someone who named a netperf test MAERTS because it transfered data the opposite direction as the STREAM test, I'm good with that. If that does not work, with Quantum being something of "Spooky networking at a d

Re: [Openstack] New code name for networks

2013-05-11 Thread Monty Taylor
On 05/11/2013 05:48 PM, Anne Gentle wrote: > > > > On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 3:12 PM, Monty Taylor > wrote: > > > > On 05/11/2013 04:07 PM, Asher Newcomer wrote: > > Or even better, just continue to call it openstack networking. The > code > > nam

Re: [Openstack] New code name for networks

2013-05-11 Thread David Shrewsbury
Same first THREE letters actually. Bonus points. On May 11, 2013, at 7:07 PM, David Shrewsbury wrote: > quark > > Keeps the sciency theme going, same first two letters, and represents > something > fundamental to other sciency stuff (much like networking is fundamental to > OpenStack). > > h

Re: [Openstack] New code name for networks

2013-05-11 Thread David Shrewsbury
quark Keeps the sciency theme going, same first two letters, and represents something fundamental to other sciency stuff (much like networking is fundamental to OpenStack). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quark -Dave On May 11, 2013, at 4:13 PM, Monty Taylor wrote: > Jeremy Stanly on IRC just s

Re: [Openstack] New code name for networks

2013-05-11 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Anne, Here's the guidance provided by ASF for their Incubator Podlings which can be used to come up with a process of our own. http://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html -- dims On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 5:48 PM, Anne Gentle wrote: > > > > On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 3:12 PM, Monty Taylor wrote:

Re: [Openstack] New code name for networks

2013-05-11 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2013-05-11 16:13:39 -0400 (-0400), Monty Taylor wrote: > Jeremy Stanly on IRC just suggested kumquat... [...] Only because I find them extremely tasty and fun to pronounce. -- Jeremy Stanley ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to

Re: [Openstack] New code name for networks

2013-05-11 Thread Anne Gentle
On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 3:12 PM, Monty Taylor wrote: > > > On 05/11/2013 04:07 PM, Asher Newcomer wrote: > > Or even better, just continue to call it openstack networking. The code > > names only serve to confuse the uninitiated. They needlessly steepen the > > learning curve and slow uptake. > >

Re: [Openstack] New code name for networks

2013-05-11 Thread MoE ElBaz
Réseaux or a translation for networks in some other language (maybe networks in Chinese as Havana will be released in HKG) -- just thinking international ;-) Best Regards MoE/// On May 11, 2013, at 4:07 PM, Monty Taylor wrote: > I have been arguing for: > > mutnuaq > > Granted, it takes a

Re: [Openstack] New code name for networks

2013-05-11 Thread Monty Taylor
Jeremy Stanly on IRC just suggested kumquat... but to that I respond: qumkuat Same benefits as qumutna - except it's more pronouncable. On 05/11/2013 04:07 PM, Monty Taylor wrote: > I have been arguing for: > > mutnuaq > > Granted, it takes a minute to learn how to type, but it's just a little

Re: [Openstack] New code name for networks

2013-05-11 Thread Monty Taylor
On 05/11/2013 04:07 PM, Asher Newcomer wrote: > Or even better, just continue to call it openstack networking. The code > names only serve to confuse the uninitiated. They needlessly steepen the > learning curve and slow uptake. The problem with OpenStack Networking (or getting rid of codenames)

Re: [Openstack] New code name for networks

2013-05-11 Thread Asher Newcomer
Or even better, just continue to call it openstack networking. The code names only serve to confuse the uninitiated. They needlessly steepen the learning curve and slow uptake. On May 11, 2013 3:59 PM, "Davanum Srinivas" wrote: > Lattice > > -- dims > > On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Mark Turne

Re: [Openstack] New code name for networks

2013-05-11 Thread Monty Taylor
I have been arguing for: mutnuaq Granted, it takes a minute to learn how to type, but it's just a little snarky, and it takes up the exact same number of letter. However, it does screw with sorting. SO - what about: qumutna It's a little bit easier to wrap your head around, it's still clearly a

Re: [Openstack] New code name for networks

2013-05-11 Thread Matt Joyce
Tyronosaurus Rex Optimus Prime Super Happy Fun Network Times A.N.A.L. - Automated Networking and Logistics And with that I am out of ideas. On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Davanum Srinivas wrote: > Lattice > > -- dims > > On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Mark Turner wrote: > > Tubes > > > >

Re: [Openstack] New code name for networks

2013-05-11 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Lattice -- dims On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Mark Turner wrote: > Tubes > > ;-) > > > On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 12:51 PM, Jason Smith > wrote: >> >> Hello, >> I understand why we had to give up Quantum code name but rather than just >> refer to it as networking let's come up with a new code n

Re: [Openstack] New code name for networks

2013-05-11 Thread Mark Turner
Tubes ;-) On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 12:51 PM, Jason Smith wrote: > Hello, > I understand why we had to give up Quantum code name but rather than just > refer to it as networking let's come up with a new code name! > Thoughts? > Thanks, > -js > ___ >

[Openstack] New code name for networks

2013-05-11 Thread Jason Smith
Hello, I understand why we had to give up Quantum code name but rather than just refer to it as networking let's come up with a new code name! Thoughts? Thanks, -js ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launch