Re: [opensource-dev] Somewhat stable developer viewer

On 2010-09-06 11:16, Ponzu wrote: The snow storm wiki seems to say that users should try - Viewer 2 (stable) - Development Viewer snap shot (somewhat stable) - Latest Build (look out!) The problem is there is no hint about the Snap Shot? Even just a build number would be OK. Oz has suggested

[opensource-dev] The Plan for Snowglobe

The Snowglobe project has served a very useful purpose, but as I said when we launched Project Snowstorm, we need to be clear that our open source efforts are focused there. We're making very good progress importing the features and fixes from Snowglobe into the viewer-development repository,

Re: [opensource-dev] The Plan for Snowglobe

On 2010-09-08 9:43, Ponzu wrote: > Will there be a "snowstorm" viewer? Not by that name - there is a 'Development' viewer (available both from the wiki and the secondlife.com download page) that is the current viewer-development build. See https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Viewer_Types _

Re: [opensource-dev] The Plan for Snowglobe

On 2010-09-08 10:35, Mike Dickson wrote: >On 09/08/2010 10:04 AM, Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence) wrote: >> On 2010-09-08 9:43, Ponzu wrote: >>> Will there be a "snowstorm" viewer? >> Not by that name - there is a 'Development' viewer (available

Re: [opensource-dev] Updated Snowstorm submission procedure

On 2010-08-26 20:36, Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence) wrote: > I've just updated the procedure for how to submit a changeset for > Snowstorm integration. There's now an explicit mechanism in Jira to > queue a change to be integrated. See > > https:/

Re: [opensource-dev] [POLICY] Banning TPV not on the TPV list

On 2010-09-09 1:59, Francesco Rabbi wrote: > Hello Altair! > I wanted to respond to a comment you made on the opensource-dev list. > > You said "imho*ALL* non TPV listed viewers should be blacklisted" All viewers must comply with the Third Party Viewer Policy. Viewers in the directory

Re: [opensource-dev] The Plan for Snowglobe

On 2010-09-09 7:15, Aidan Thornton wrote: > On 9/8/10, Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence) wrote: >> * Remove viewer-external from hg.secondlife.com > Am I right in thinking there's no revision history in here that isn't > available in more useful and fine-grained form

Re: [opensource-dev] The Plan for Snowglobe

On 2010-09-10 14:30, Daniel Smith wrote: On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 9:22 AM, Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence) mailto:o...@lindenlab.com>> wrote: Eventually (and there is _no_ plan for when this will be - certainly longer than 3 months), it will no longer be possible for us to co

Re: [opensource-dev] Test plans / Acceptance Criteria for Snowstorm sprint 3

On 2010-09-10 20:01, Philippe (Merov) Bossut wrote: > > One question: how do we close (Accept) fixes? Clearly, that shouldn't > be the dev doing this (not me then on those) but how to make sure it > gets on the radar of someone? I suggest that the process be that we get some other team member

Re: [opensource-dev] Building viewer-development

On 2010-09-10 22:53, Sheet Spotter wrote: I would like to build the viewer-development source code under Windoze. I was familiar with the Snowglobe process. Now I need to understand any changes to the build process for Project Snowstorm. The wiki instructions for the retrieving the source c

Re: [opensource-dev] Building viewer-development

On 2010-09-11 9:48, Ponzu wrote: > I know it seems somewhat risky, but it is a WIKI. If you see ways to > fix it, or even just mark that it iseems out of date, that is an > improvement. Lots of small improvements will make a big difference. > (/me promises to put editing where mouth is.) > > An

[opensource-dev] Severe water flicker in recent development build

I'm seeing what I believe is the same problem described in SNOW-745 in our current development viewer. Second Life 2.1.2 (209297) I added some detail to the issue description. It's very irritating. I think we need to do something about it (might we be able to force Atmospheric Shaders to 'o

Re: [opensource-dev] Retaining Newbies (Was: The Plan for Snowglobe)

On 2010-09-11 14:11, Dilly Dobbs wrote: On 9/11/2010 1:05 PM, Robert Martin wrote: On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 1:52 PM, dilly dobbs wrote: We all seem like intelligent adults that could come to an agreement on how to add priority to the issues that we would like to see addressed. And yes i w

[opensource-dev] Where to put & look for test viewers

We have lots of community members who are ready and willing to try out the latest and greatest experiments and fixes from developers, and plenty of developers who have things that need testing (especially in circumstances and on platforms that the develop might not have). The trick is getting

Re: [opensource-dev] Where to put & look for test viewers

On 2010-09-17 12:20, Tom Grimshaw wrote: On 17/09/2010 17:16, Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence) wrote: We have lots of community members who are ready and willing to try out the latest and greatest experiments and fixes from developers, Are viewers with experimental OpenSim-targeted features welcome

Re: [opensource-dev] User Story: Improved Cache

On 2010-09-17 12:56, Ponzu wrote: > But some users want to be able to override this. I want a certain > location to always load fast, even if I rarely visit it. > > User story: I want to mark certain locations as "Fast Loading" even > if I do not visit them very often. This should override the

Re: [opensource-dev] Where to put & look for test viewers

On 2010-09-17 13:36, Ponzu wrote: > When will Snowstorm post a Development Viewer Snapshot - TBD > > 8-) already on the main secondlife.com downloads page (though we need a newer one) ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://w

Re: [opensource-dev] Snowstorm - Product Engine?

On 2010-09-17 13:49, Brandon Husbands wrote: > It was a serious question. I wanted to know if LL did it or a 3rd > party contractor. not a insult. It doesn't matter... it's there, and we're going to have to deal with it (as in the recent changes to make panels detachable). ___

Re: [opensource-dev] Snowstorm - Product Engine?

On 2010-09-17 15:38, Brandon Husbands wrote: > I am actually about finished with my mod for v2. > > It takes the sidebar.cpp file and only that file leaves all public > method calls in. > But its rewritten to be a floater manager where if you want to call > say profile it launches it as a float

Re: [opensource-dev] Where to put & look for test viewers

On 2010-09-17 19:42, Trilo Byte wrote: > I agree, a newer one's needed (Phillip pledged to residents there would be > updates every 2 weeks, that doesn't seem to be happening). However, until > anti-aliasing gets fixed 2.1.2 isn't ready for prime time. we're still shaking down our processes, bu

Re: [opensource-dev] User Story: Improved Cache

On 2010-09-19 10:21, Tateru Nino wrote: > I believe he was referring to the fact that a UUID does not always refer > to the same inworld object. There are instances where an object UUID > will be used more than once. Those would be bugs, by definition.

Re: [opensource-dev] CAN WE PLEASE STOP VIEWER DEVELOPMENT FOR 5 MINUTES

On 2010-10-03 10:27, malachi wrote: > could we please take 5 minutes away from the client that we all obviously > have our second thoughts about to begin with. and focus on grid > infrastructure. > > i honestly dont care if i am forced to use the dreaded 2.x client. if the > grid actually res

Re: [opensource-dev] New Snowstorm Builds?

On 2010-10-04 10:55, Zak Escher wrote: > There hasn't been a new build of Snowstorm (Second Life 2.2.1 (210917) > Sep 30 2010 05:11:51 (Second Life Development)) for several days. Any > ETA on when new builds will be available? There just have not been any new commits since then. People have

Re: [opensource-dev] Latest LL viewer beta has inventory count issues?

On 2010-10-05 17:43, Ann Otoole wrote: > However I do know asset data is "vanishing". I have a ticket open and > never looked at in respect to a humble shoe texture I created and > uploaded to SL that has vanished from the asset system. Easily > replacable yes but highly annoying to know data

Re: [opensource-dev] [JIRA] Updated: (SH-173) [VWR-22868] Development Viewer freezes just after startup / greedy with file handles / 'WARNING: ll_apr_warn_status: APR: Too many open files'

On 2010-10-07 10:21, Ponzu wrote: On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 12:37 AM, Merov Linden (JIRA) mailto:no-re...@secondlife.com>> wrote: [ https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SH-173?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Merov Linden updated SH-173:

Re: [opensource-dev] Remaining build issues for 64bit linux standalone out-of-source (without unit tests)

VWR-23296 : missing LL_TEST conditions (i.e. SNOW-651 *+* SNOW-654 ) * The ability to turn off building and executing of /all/ unit tests is ne

Re: [opensource-dev] Remaining build issues for 64bit linux standalone out-of-source (without unit tests)

On 2010-10-06 18:41, Boroondas Gupte wrote: A lot of fixes from my previous list have been integrated by now, so the list of remaining not-yet-integrated build fixes for 64bit out-of-source has become a lot sho

[opensource-dev] Don't fork Beta

Unless you are working on an issue that has already specifically been marked to be fixed in Beta, please don't use a clone of the viewer-beta branch; doing so makes it more difficult to cleanly pull your changes into viewer-development. ___ Policies

[opensource-dev] Oz office hour change...

I've moved my Monday office hour back (earlier) by a half hour - it's now 07:00-08:00. The wiki calendar links and feeds have been updated. ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Plea

Re: [opensource-dev] quick smoke test

On 2010-10-12 19:30, Boroondas Gupte wrote: Looks good, I guess. While testing I noticed that STORM-312 / VWR-19643 (spacenavigator not working with recent Linux kernels) is still broken in LL builds.

Re: [opensource-dev] Project-MESH viewer

On 2010-10-15 13:07, Ponzu wrote: > I tried this viewer last night. As I am sure you Lindens know, it is > based on a version of viewer-development that is many days old. (Some > complaint, huh?) > Could perhaps someone help the Mesh team pull the most relevant > changesets from viewer-dev s

Re: [opensource-dev] Project-MESH viewer

On 2010-10-15 18:00, Trilo Byte wrote: > But on the flipside, the Project MESH viewer has working shadows for nVidia > GPU's on Mac (never happened before on any known config), and anti-aliasing's > fixed. If we could get that bit out of the mesh viewer and into the 2.2 > pipeline, we'd reall

Re: [opensource-dev] O.O Display name code DROP!

On 2010-10-15 19:22, Boroondas Gupte wrote: On 10/16/2010 12:59 AM, SuezanneC Baskerville wrote: What happened to that jira issue? It appears to have been moved to SEC or something like that. It has been moved to DN-179 . (I guess "DN" stands for "di

Re: [opensource-dev] Reflections in SL. Re: Project-MESH viewer

On 2010-10-16 19:04, leliel wrote: > On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 3:31 PM, SuezanneC Baskerville > wrote: >> I'd be quite content with mirror surfaces that only, for example, reflected >> avatars. >> >> I think people would enjoy mirrors no matter how much restriction had to be >> placed on them to

Re: [opensource-dev] Reflections in SL. Re: Project-MESH viewer

On 2010-10-16 20:02, leliel wrote: > Make it so people don't have to jump through hoops to build the viewer > and patches may start coming in more frequently. O.o Oddly, that's exactly what I'm working on... ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information

Re: [opensource-dev] offered items are lost by viewer crashes

[hint: use a more descriptive subject line when posting] On 2010-10-16 18:01, Erin Mallory wrote: Why is it 2.0 seems to autodecline inventory for most people if they crash or get logged out before they can accept the inventory? this is really annoying. is there a way to change that somewhe

Re: [opensource-dev] Stuff I'd like to see in the coming sprint

VWR-12984 Water flickers and disappears in patches * Very annoying and high-voted bug, especially apparent in skyboxes * Has been fixed in Snowglobe 1 half a year ago * Fix has been ported to Snowglobe 2 this summer (s

Re: [opensource-dev] USER STORY for not so far future

On 2010-10-21 10:10, Francesco Rabbi wrote: > Not understand sorry... > > This isn't a LL problem. You can already use iMouse to use your iPad, > iPhone or iPod as a multi-touch trackpad and via control panel you can > bind multi-touch gesture to keyboard shortcut... Now that would be a great t

Re: [opensource-dev] [META] User stories and issue tracker readability

On 2010-10-23 12:25, SuezanneC Baskerville wrote: > > Part of the change was to add the words "As a user," to the Summary > field. > > https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-675 > > They also changed the importance from minor to major. I suspect > these two actions are connected. > > I suspec

Re: [opensource-dev] LGPL violation

On 2010-10-23 7:27, Carlo Wood wrote: > I am not a lawyer :p, but I think that it is allowed to link an LGPL-ed > library statically against a proprietary executable provided you > provide the object code or source code of the work that uses the library. Not correct. LGPL code may be linked to

Re: [opensource-dev] constant crashes

On 2010-11-02 21:44, Philippe (Merov) Bossut wrote: > please indicate which build you're running when reporting > viewer-development build crashes. With as many as 3 or 4 builds of viewer-development per day (and rarely less than 2), the term "latest" is essentially worthless. By the time any

Re: [opensource-dev] What is the license status of UI sounds ?

On 2010-11-05 16:50, Henri Beauchamp wrote: > These issues could easily be solved (I got a patch ready), provided the UI > sounds could be distributed as part of the default skin (for example in > /skins/default/sounds)... > To do this however, we'd need to know what is the license status of the UI

Re: [opensource-dev] Request for feedback - Preferences Cleanup

On 2010-11-08 11:10, Sarah (Esbee) Kuehnle wrote: Thanks again for all your feedback. I've made some updates to the design deck (see attached). I'm going to create subtasks underneath STORM-31 for the new preferences and get these updates rolling

Re: [opensource-dev] support related userstory...

On 2010-11-09 12:04, Erin Mallory wrote: As a user, I would expect if i log itno the secondlife website and then try to get some live support, it would then automatically connect me under the account I am logged into the website under and not any of say the last 4 or five accounts that logged i

Re: [opensource-dev] Touch Broken, Stuttering Issues

On 2010-11-10 6:13, Trilo Byte wrote: > I was busy checking out some other items/banging on different parts of the > viewer, and didn't realize until just now that "Touch" appears to not be > working properly in the latest builds. Clicking left/right on a panel vendor > seems to work, but touch

Re: [opensource-dev] Infinite loop in viewer-development?

A stack overflow is occurring during log on with the latest viewer-development source code. See the archive for my rant on using the word "latest". The code enters an infinite loop when two methods are repeatedly calling each other. LLVOAvatarSelf::removeMissingBakedTextures calls LLVOAvata

Re: [opensource-dev] Infinite loop in viewer-development?

On 2010-11-10 15:35, Sheet Spotter wrote: The infinite loop occurs when the avatar's baked textures cannot be decoded. The problem was encountered while testing OpenJPEG v2, but it could also occur with any JPEG 2000 decoder. After running the code outside the debugger I was able to submit

Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-151 : KDU v6.4.1 upgrade update

On 2010-11-12 20:35, Philippe (Merov) Bossut wrote: > > This afternoon, I was happy to break through the fog and got a first > viewer working with v6.4.1! I quickly ran some perf runs and it seems > that this new lib gives us a 30% boost in decompression speed (tested > on Mac OS X). I posted so

Re: [opensource-dev] What is the license status of UI sounds ?

On 2010-11-05 16:50, Henri Beauchamp wrote: > To do this however, we'd need to know what is the license status of the UI > sounds: does LL allow TPV developpers to distribute them (under the Artistic > License, for example, like for the UI artwork), and if yes under which > License ? At present, a

Re: [opensource-dev] What is the license status of UI sounds ?

On 2010-11-15 4:27, Lance Corrimal wrote: > Am Sonntag, 14. November 2010, 15:14:25 schrieb Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence): >> On 2010-11-05 16:50, Henri Beauchamp wrote: >>> To do this however, we'd need to know what is the license status of the >>> UI sounds:

[opensource-dev] Test these features....

We have three pending features ready for testing and feedback now... https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Downloading_test_builds#Developer_Builds ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Pleas

[opensource-dev] STORM-616: Me->Movement menus

These are good - but perhaps a couple of improvements? * When I'm sitting, can/should we make the 'Sit Down' become 'Stand Up'? (we'd want that to work any time that the av is sitting, not just when the 'Sit Down' action was taken) * The 'Always Run' is different from the others

Re: [opensource-dev] [IDEA] variable stand-up menu entry/button label

On 2010-11-20 6:34, Boroondas Gupte wrote: > On 11/20/2010 11:49 AM, Opensource Obscure wrote: >> On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 22:19:20 -0500, Ponzu wrote: >>> Of course, "Sit" and "Stand" are not always what we are doing. We >>> might be >>> "Dance" and "Stop Dance" or "Hug" and "Stop hug" >> What ex

Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-616: Me->Movement menus

On 2010-11-20 9:40, Ponzu wrote: > > Don't get me all excited. Next thing I will be asking for haptic > animations. With olfactory signals beamed into my cervical implant. > Shh... those implants are under NDA!! :-) ___ Policies and (un)subscribe i

Re: [opensource-dev] Development snapshots now 2.5?

On 2010-11-23 22:55, Trilo Byte wrote: > I notice the version change in the latest snapshot. I sincerely hope that > means that a 2.4 beta hasn't been committed to before Name Tags has been > fixed and tested. Shipping a beta/release (that is, putting it on the > downloads page for all residen

Re: [opensource-dev] [WIKI] 'Downloading test builds' vs. 'Linden_Lab_Official:Alternate_Viewers'

On 2010-11-25 9:29, Opensource Obscure wrote: > Wouldn't be appropriate to merge together these pages, > or a part of them? Maybe using a template, to > avoid duplicated and out-of-date content. > > http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Linden_Lab_Official:Alternate_Viewers > http://wiki.second

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