Re: [opensource-dev] Third party viewer policy

2010-02-24 Thread Jason Giglio
Soft Linden wrote: > Legal doesn't intend this to be a restriction on anything but use of > our service or eligibility for inclusion in the Viewer Directory. > Context is important here. Even the maintainers of GNU telnet won't > let someone use telnet to mess up the FSF's servers. > > Legal is aw

Re: [opensource-dev] Third party viewer policy

2010-02-24 Thread Jason Giglio
Dale Glass wrote: > В сообщении от Четверг 25 февраля 2010 01:30:52 автор Morgaine написал: >> Soft, >> >> Please add to your list of issues to pass to Legal, a highlighted copy of >> Clause 6 in the GPLv2 > [snip] > > Seconded. > > Additionally, please ensure compatibility with Creative Commons

Re: [opensource-dev] Third party viewer policy

2010-02-24 Thread Jason Giglio
Carlo Wood wrote: > I didn't even READ the TVP all that well, I'm just going to > stubbornly use my own common sense. If anything that is not > common sense is going to be enforced then by all means I don't > want to be part of SL anymore. > > In this case the common sense says: If something is fu

Re: [opensource-dev] TPV Policy makes Secondlife *content* incompatible with CC-SA licenses

2010-02-24 Thread Jason Giglio
Darmath wrote: > Having read the TOS i'm comfortable in saying that it is reasonably > clear that two exchanges don't take place, but that the agency > situation, with LL existing as a mutual agent, would apply to SL. >> Darmath wrote: The CC-SA-By is not a contract, it's a copyright license. C

[opensource-dev] Summary of TPV concerns

2010-02-24 Thread Jason Giglio
I have created a page with all the concerns I could think of listed so that nothing falls in the cracks. https://wiki.secondlife.com/w/index.php?title=TPV_concerns Feel free to edit. ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki

Re: [opensource-dev] TPV Policy makes Secondlife *content* incompatible with CC-SA licenses

2010-02-24 Thread Jason Giglio
Darmath wrote: >lots of stuff Well, here's some papers about it: http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1029366 https://litigation-essentials.lexisnexis.com/webcd/app?action=DocumentDisplay&crawlid=1&doctype=cite&docid=30+U.+La+Verne+L.+Rev.+296&srctype=smi&srcid=3B15&key=bb13d4040c3d

Re: [opensource-dev] TPV Policy makes Secondlife *content* incompatible with CC-SA licenses

2010-02-24 Thread Jason Giglio
Tigro Spottystripes wrote: > if it's just about copying and modification, but not use, then how come > we can't use, say a texture, without explicit permission from the > creator under the risk of being prosecuted for copyright infringement? With textures and prims in SL, "use" is inherently also

Re: [opensource-dev] FAQ posted for Third Party Viewer Policy

2010-02-28 Thread Jason Giglio
Soft Linden wrote: > It's important to understand that one can discontinue use of Second > Life at any point. On doing so, there are no further obligations > imposed by the TPV policy. The legal consults cleared this as a > resolution to all free license issues. Is that the case though? The polic

Re: [opensource-dev] Client-side Permissions Management

2010-03-06 Thread Jason Giglio
Rob Nelson wrote: > Consider a user in a sandbox who wants to clean up his mess. If he were > using a viewer based on LibOMV, all the viewer would have to do is loop > through the region's object dictionary and return/delete objects that he > owns. In the LL viewer (correct me if I'm wrong), LLSe

Re: [opensource-dev] Moving forward with open development

2010-03-22 Thread Jason Giglio
Aleric Inglewood wrote: > It would be totally not-done to then take my code and release it under > a non-GPL license, most specifically, to release binaries without the > ability for users to get the source code. That is why I got so upset To be clear, Linden Lab does still plan to do this. There