Re: [opensource-dev] Debugging purging a single folder from trash

2015-10-05 Thread Ricky
Henri, thank you for the detailed response. I suspected the protocol was defined that way: attempting to make the viewer responsible for managing the server's database. Bad design, but typical of early LL when everything was a single project and there was no separation between the client and serve

Re: [opensource-dev] Debugging purging a single folder from trash

2015-10-05 Thread Henri Beauchamp
On Mon, 5 Oct 2015 17:33:03 +0200, Latif Khalifa wrote: > AISv3 is new. I backported it to the Cool VL Viewer back on 2014-03-15... Not *that* new any more. > There is no "upstream" to port from (like viewer devs do). Also this > restriction is on one grid only. Join #opensim-dev on freenode if

Re: [opensource-dev] Debugging purging a single folder from trash

2015-10-05 Thread Latif Khalifa
On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 4:59 PM, Henri Beauchamp > So, instead of securing the communications (simply check that the user > is actually logged into the requesting sim, or use AISv3 instead of > UDP messages), you prefer breaking a protocol (not even documenting > the change anywhere, and not warning

Re: [opensource-dev] Debugging purging a single folder from trash

2015-10-05 Thread Mike Chase
It also points out why HyperGrid, for all the "Hype" it receives is fundamentally busted. It fails to deal with trust relationships between services and partitioning of responsibility in any kind of sensible way. Its really assuming a "friendly" environment for a protocol that is meant to work

Re: [opensource-dev] Debugging purging a single folder from trash

2015-10-05 Thread Henri Beauchamp
On Mon, 5 Oct 2015 16:52:05 +0200, Latif Khalifa wrote: > It's not nonsense, it's a security measure. In SL sims are trusted so > they proxy all the communication from the viewer to the central > services such as inventory and assets. On OSGrid anyone can attach > their own sim. This sim could tel

Re: [opensource-dev] Debugging purging a single folder from trash

2015-10-05 Thread Latif Khalifa
On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 10:40 AM, Henri Beauchamp > I don't know what you are trying to debug, but just in case, be aware > that at least one such "derivatives", in use on OSGrid, does not obey > the purge trash messages sent by the viewer (it looks like the trash > gets emptied, but on relog, the p

Re: [opensource-dev] Debugging purging a single folder from trash

2015-10-05 Thread Henri Beauchamp
On Sun, 4 Oct 2015 21:50:39 -0700, Ricky wrote: > Just a quickie, trying to avoid digging through the viewer code myself to > be sure: > When a folder that is in the trash is purged, what calls to the server does > the client make? > > I'm debugging an OpenSim derivative, I don't know what you a

[opensource-dev] Debugging purging a single folder from trash

2015-10-04 Thread Ricky
Just a quickie, trying to avoid digging through the viewer code myself to be sure: When a folder that is in the trash is purged, what calls to the server does the client make? I'm debugging an OpenSim derivative, and just noticed that it seems that there's a difference in the calls when the folder